In questi ultimi giorni, diversi nuovi sviluppi sono venuti alla luce a favore della teoria che Michael Jackson ha graduali la sua morte e tirato fuori il massimo Hoax del secolo. Poiché siamo già a conoscenza, le numerose incongruenze che circondano la sua 'morte' hanno aperto gli occhi sul fatto che non ci viene detto tutta la storia.
Noi crediamo che, se egli fosse veramente morto poi sarebbe semplicemente stato un caso aperto e chiuso. Ad esempio: Michael Jackson è stato scoperto per prima sono passate a casa da arresto cardiaco, emergenza 911 è stato chiamato, è stato raccolto da personale paramedico e poi purtroppo, pronunciato morto. Tuttavia, come tutti sappiamo, non è un caso aperto e chiuso e vi sono stati troppi 'strana' e avvenimenti inspiegabili eventi che hanno avuto luogo il giorno della sua morte.
Ci è stato detto che era un medico quattro ore, che ha superato, al fine di andare avanti con i Concerti di O2 di Londra. Abbiamo anche sentito che la notte prima della sua morte egli era pieno di energia, mettere su una sorprendente prova di funzionamento (che è appena accaduto a nastro video di ciò che una coincidenza ...) e poi è successo solo a morire di un attacco di cuore il giorno successivo.
Abbiamo ascoltato le storie circa il suo strano 'medico', che il cantante avrebbe iniettato con Demerol una mezz'ora prima di crollare, avvenuto a 'trovare il suo letto', non chiamate il 911 fino a mezz'ora dopo la sua morte, ha rifiutato di firmare il suo certificato di morte e di momenti che sono scomparse dopo l'ambulanza ha Jackson in ospedale.
Abbiamo visto il video di Michael Jackson seduta in giro in elicottero per la camera mortuaria, senza dubbio ringraziare tutti per mettere su un così grande 'atto' e poi dire 'I'll be off ora', come egli è stato ruote nella camera mortuaria , poi se stesso e dissimulata camminato fuori dalla porta di servizio.
Ora sembra, anche le cose più strane sono in atto, che pongono la nostra teoria Hoax come molto probabile. Lasciaci condividere alcuni punti:
- Michael Jackson e Deborah Rowe, durante il loro matrimonio nel 1996.
E 'stato annunciato da Deborah Rowe, l'ex-moglie di Michael Jackson, che alla fine non è la stella padre biologico dei loro due figli. Deborah 'Debbie' Rowe, madre del Principe, 12, e Parigi, 11, ha parlato del suo "finto matrimonio" di Jackson nella sua prima intervista pubblica con British tabloid News giornale del mondo.
Rowe, che ha sposato Jackson allo Sheraton Hotel di Sydney nel mese di novembre 1996, disse che era inseminate artificialmente da un donatore anonimo e simile a se stessa una delle cavalle purosangue ora mantiene il suo ranch in California.
"Ero appena la nave. Non è stato Michael's sperma ", ha detto Rowe Notizie del mondo. "Ho pagato per essa, e mi sono spostato su. So che non vedrà mai i miei figli ". Rowe ha rivelato Thriller e la cantante non ha mai avuto il sesso e non condividere un letto tre anni, durante il loro matrimonio, che descrive l'unione solo come amicizia.
Rowe ha poi riferito di distanza genitoriale diritti ai bambini in cambio di 8,4 milioni di US $ di vincita oltre nove anni. Rowe ha detto loro il fucile è stato un matrimonio. "Voleva fare finta che eravamo una famiglia." Aveva 37 e incinta e lui è stato 38.
Con questa ammissione da Debbie Rowe, che mette a riposo tutti gli scettici che, sostenendo che Michael Jackson 'non sarebbe mai scena la sua morte, perché egli non vuole lasciare i suoi figli'.
Perché non ha al momento non sono ancora la sua?
In secondo luogo, abbiamo il bizzarro comportamento del padre di Michael Jackson, Joe Jackson. E 'stato citato su E! On-line che, 'A questo punto, Joe Jackson sa di più sul proprio progetto di registrare i funerali del figlio piani'. Molto preoccupante.
- Michael Jackson, il padre di Joe Jackson e Al Sharpton in occasione di una recente conferenza stampa
Al BET Awards a Los Angeles alcune notti fa, CNN Don Limone tentato di intervista Joe Jackson in merito alla morte di suo figlio. Jackson ha risposto alle domande dei Limone con brusco, distaccati risposte, superato il microfono al suo portavoce e avvocato, e quindi promuovere la sua casa discografica.
Jackson's risposte sono state strano diritto al largo della bat: Limone gli chiede come sta facendo, e Jackson risponde ", grande, che sto facendo abbastanza bene", che sembra una strana cosa dire dopo uno ha appena perso il figlio. Poi passa attrezzi e dice: "E 'stato davvero difficile. Ricordate, abbiamo appena perso la stella più grande del mondo. "Quale sembra anche strano, come è sembrato come un modo abbastanza staccato di fraseggio cose.
Don Limone quindi chiede come Janet Jackson e il resto della famiglia sono affrontare con la notizia della morte di Michael Joe Jackson e la risposta è questa,
"Stanno tutti bene, ma voglio fare questa affermazione ... questo è un vero e proprio bene dichiarazione qui, Marshall e il mio di un record chiamato Azienda Ranch Records", e mostra grande entusiasmo come spine Record Label.
O è solo un cuore affamato di denaro o bastardo è composto in modo spensierato e perché sa che suo figlio Michael è in realtà ancora viva. O forse è entrambe le cose!
In terzo luogo, relazioni che sono state effettuate nel mese di aprile di quest'anno, ha dichiarato che è stato pianificato uno Asta a vendere più possesions appartenenti a Michael Jackson che sono stati di oltre il Neverland Ranch Estate.
Elementi, quali divertimenti, un custom made cavallo trasporto, riproduzioni antiche automobilistica, di fama internazionale premi, giochi arcade, concerto costumi, Disneyana, giardino, statue, mobili, l'effettivo (e molto) grandiosa entrata porte Jackson's Neverland e bianco-iconica jeweled guanto.
Una parte del ricavato di questa asta è stato detto di andare a essere MusiCares, una carità della registrazione Accademia, tuttavia la maggior parte dei fondi è stato detto di essere dritti nella tasca del Re del Pop stesso. Questa Asta è stata poi annullata dalla Jackson dopo l'O2 Concerti a Londra esaurito. Pare che Michael Jackson aveva trovato un altro modo per generare un po 'di denaro per la sua transizione verso una nuova vita senza Media.
Con una vita che ha sostenuto la depressione, l'uso estensivo di Pain Killers, i debiti in essere, secondo le stime, l'arena di US $ 400 milioni di euro, costantemente braccato dai fans e dei media, e la pressione su 50 per offrire spettacolari concerti all'età di 50 anni, perché non si considera la possibilità di falsificazione tua morte per godere di una tranquilla vita da qualche parte su un isola con nulla di cui preoccuparsi?
Abbiamo notato che quelli di voi che sono non-credenti, che sono il mantenimento di Michael Jackson non sarebbe mai in grado di tirare fuori questo, come egli è troppo riconoscibile, o non sarebbe mai farlo ai suoi tifosi, ma vogliamo dire WAKE UP PERSONE.
Se mai vi è stato nessuno sulla faccia del pianeta che avrebbero i mezzi per tirare fuori una morte Hoax con accesso a molte di denaro nascosto in mare, il trasporto quando e dove voleva andare, il personale che farebbe qualsiasi cosa per lui, e il motivo di voler lasciare il suo circo di una vita ... è sicuramente Michael Jackson.
Egli può ora essere 'morto' per tutti noi, ma è assolutamente fisicamente vivo .... da qualche parte.
Per quanto voglio credere che sia ancora vivo, c'è una cosa di me .. thats fastidio Perché la famiglia avrebbe messo il suo corpo sul pubblico se era ancora vivo. die hard fans sarebbe forse essere in grado di vedere se è lui non è mai stato, ma un lookalike. sarebbe il loro no?
Ben detto.
La mia personale teoria è che Michael Jackson è viva e vegeta, ma non nasconde con "Tupac e Elvis".
Michael Jackson fa questo tipo di merda, a partire voci di dormire in una camera iperbarica e acquistare i resti di elefante uomo. E 'tutta una facciata.
Nah. Penso che alcuni memoriale concerto al o2 emergeranno e Michael rivela se stesso, andare avanti con lo spettacolo, e la presentazione di se stesso come il più grande genio di tutti.
Chi può battere la prospettiva di un ritorno, quando sarebbe il ritorno da 'morto'?
Nessuno. La gente sarebbe incazzato, inevitabilmente, ma sarebbe il più grande.
Come titolare di un biglietto da me, tuttavia, potrebbe essere solo di essere fiduciosi.
Chi lo sa ...
Mantenere il buon sito.
La famiglia Jackson ha appena annunciato che non ci saranno la pubblica visione in Neverland ranch come riferito in precedenza, per cui vi è un po 'di speranza c'è, ci sarà forse un monumento pubblico a Los Angeles e probabilmente io non sono del tutto sicuri di cosa significa. Ci sarà una visualizzazione o non ..? se non c'è qualcosa di strano su tutto questo?
Michael's fratello Jermaine ha detto che ha visto il corpo di Michael in ospedale, e che ha ricoperto lo stesso togehter perché Michael era ancora vivo, che il suo spirito è ancora qui e il suo corpo è stato solo un guscio .. il suono è un po 'strano per me .. forse è solo a me .. : S
veramente i belieive è vivo ... vieni sulla risurrezione tour? Egli è vivo!
effettivamente che Debbie Rowe intervista è stata dimostrato di essere un falso. Ha parlato di Radaronline la verità su ciò che è stato, ha detto anche a pochi anni fa, che sono quelli di Michael Jackson biologici bambini.
http://momsword.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2085:those-are-michael-jacksons-biological-kids&catid=1:latest-reviews&Itemid=50
non credo che egli è vivo? Vi è una possibilità. E se egli in scena la sua morte e ritorno per il concerto, sarebbe terribile ... ma non credo che egli è. purtroppo
e ho incontrato in prima persona. PIR MJ. Desidero e mi auguro di sbagliarmi.
Mi piacerebbe per niente di più che questo sia fatto. Io ho amato Michael Jackson per il tempo che posso ricordare e si sono sentiti come ho perso un membro importante della mia famiglia sin da quando ho appreso la notizia.
I bookmarked tuo sito qui perché mi sono davvero ansioso di seguire i vostri pensieri su questo nelle prossime settimane, è bene fare punti qui.
Just voluto aggiungere i miei due centesimi;
Ho sentito alla radio questa mattina che i membri della famiglia hanno offerto di andare a Londra e coprire il suo concerto di date per i fans. Non sarebbe incredibile se al primo concerto di uno di loro è andato a cantare Billie Jean come un tributo a Michael durante il loro canto e la canzone viene moonwalking Michael sul palco, vivo e vegeto.
Vorrei essere così felice.
Spero e desidero per questo per essere vero, è falso che la sua morte e uscire dalla clandestinità in pochi mesi, ma ho solo non so se credo che sia vero o no ....
Egli Tornerò quando muore ufficialmente musica, che non dovrebbe essere troppo lungo ora ....
e mi n sis mio hd riflettuto molto su di Thot mj della cosiddetta morte fino a quando siamo venuti in questo sito .... ragazzi credono anche i dati è ancora in vita e colui che è morto è il suo sguardo come uno ... anche da 1 a chopper ... questo è un grande sistema che ci cant anche immaginare ... e la sua perfettamente logico ...
Prima di tutto, che Debbie Rowe storia è falso. Allora, che consente di lasciare da soli. Ma che in realtà è ancora più notizie. Ciò significa che il supporto è diventato così coinvolti in questo essi stessi nulla credere fino a prova contraria. Essi ritenevano addirittura il falso autopsia storia. Quindi, è possibile che Michael per tirare fuori una finta morte, perché i mezzi di serrature a tutto. Nel mio cuore, mi sento come qualcosa sta per superficie il memoriale. So che potrebbe essere solo un pio desiderio, ma il modo in cui le persone si comportano frase cose strane per non dire altro. Tengono dire la sua su tutti gli appassionati. Beh, un monumento non deve essere su tutti i tifosi. Va su Michael, giusto? Jermaine è troppo persistente frega di avere Michaels corpo sepolto a Neverland. Egli afferma che ciò che il suo Michael avrebbe voluto. Egli afferma che consente di guardare a ciò che Michael vuole. Beh, didnt Michael dice che non avrebbe mai tornare a Neverland, quindi è quasi come se Michael è cambiato è la sua mente e lasciare che la sua famiglia sapere. Vedi, ci si sente come si sta tentando di modificare il pubblico immagine negativa di Neverland. Se avete wathced Larry King Live, probabilmente avete trovato la vostra auto amare quel luogo. So che ho. Basta ascoltare Jermaine quando parla. So che la gente mi sento sempre dire in spirito, quando qualcuno muore, ma il modo in Jermaine dice è interessante. Miko Anche la moglie ha detto che come lui hasn't sinistra. E ho ancora una lacrima rotolo giù Jermaine gli occhi. Egli ha avuto gli occhi acquosi, ma senza lacrime. Comunque spero di non offendere nessuno, offrendo il mio pensiero, ma se siete su questo sito, quindi lei crede qualcosa su come sta andando bene. Scusa, se il mio pensiero suono caotici. Ho da qualche parte in pochi, e mi ha voluto lasciare il mio pensiero su questo punto. Ha una felice vacanza persone. Remmeber, non credo in tutto ciò che i mezzi di comunicazione. I mezzi a malapena sa che cosa è vero o falso se stessi.
Che non capisco, nel corso del 2005 prova Avvocato pensiero Jackson 'che uccidere se stesso' durante il processo
http://breakingnews.iol.ie/entertainment/lawyer-thought-jackson-would-kill-himself-during-trial-417409.html
In questa relazione (in tv) si apprende che è stato tenuto MJ 7 antidolorifici al giorno.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T11jwiGBVDw&feature=related
(Non so le conseguenze di tali farmaci sul corpo), potrebbe eseguire, come possiamo vedere in questo ultimo Final Rehearsal Released video?
Perché c'è l'intervista con il Dr. Robert Murray Conrad?
im afriad i dont d'accordo con le ultime immagini di michaels ultimo prestazioni sia di routine è identica alla storia giro del mondo che hanno visto la storia tour 12yrs fa, non appena ho visto questo nuovo video rilasciato ho avuto una sensazione id visto che ho fatto prima in modo il confronto e visualizzare alcuni frammenti di riprese sia l'ultima di cui uno e cura su di noi la storia e la visita a sorpresa la danza e il canto sono le stesse serie canta che dont cura di noi e poi sentire il tema di storia americana e quindi sentire una macchina corno da lei mi spinge selvatici lungo con la sua marcia soldati perché mantenere la routine identici dopo 12yr divario senza modifiche?
Mi auguro davvero che questo è un falso, Im mezzo di lui si aspettano di saltare fuori la bara di domani e fare thriller o qualcosa del genere.
E 'solo doesnt aggiungere. Se egli dispone di falso la sua morte, allora è completamente genio, e totalmente riesce a irridere i media che sono così pronti a fermo su un senstaional storia. Mi ricorda della heydey di 'wacko Jacko', quando le relazioni diffuse a mezzo stampa che Michael aveva acquistato l'elefante mans ossa, o di voler assomigliare a Liz Taylor, o che ha dormito in una camera iperbarica. Alcune delle storie presenti nel premere sono così in conflitto in questo momento la sua difficile sapere che cosa credere, l'ultima quella di oggi è che Michael sta per essere sepolti, senza il suo cervello!
Mi riferisco in realtà nessuno ha visto un certificato di morte? Forse il Memorial servizio tenere le risposte
Non ho sentito nulla su un certificato di morte. Non credo che lui è morto. So che la gente potrebbe dire che è irriverente, ma io sono solo un sentimento che la sua non. Non c'è modo troppe storie ci notizie su stazioni diverse, compreso internet. Stanno dicendo Michal Jackson era dipendente da antidolorifici dal 1984. I tipi di ricerca che stenta a credere, perché, almeno qualcuno che è uscito anni fa e ha detto che il dipendente a Pain Meds.
La famiglia non sembra affatto triste?
Particolarmente Joe Jackson, WOW!
Sua madre Katherine era considerata sostanzialmente shopping il giorno dopo? Non ricordo i media mostrando sempre un cadavere è volato in aria per essere ritirato dal coroner? Se egli è stato tossicodipendenti l'autopsia avrebbe dimostrato che, se egli è morto o di arresto cardiaco sarebbe stata di apertura e chiusura in caso di specie. Essi consentono di Janet in casa per ottenere beni Michael circa un'ora più tardi? E camion in movimento non vi è stato abbastanza velocemente !!!!!
O2 e sulla conferenza stampa, che sicuramente non è stato Michael Jackson, anche quando era wathcing i ballerini di audizione per il "è questo" tour che non era lui, perché mai Michael gum masticato il suo ragazzo è stato presente come farlo! Egli è stato soffiando bolle? Pazzo! I cosiddetti nuovi filmati che viene trasmesso. Mi sembra che ho visto che, come nel 1996! Stessa danza / musica di stile! Michael guarda anche lo stesso con il suo lungo hair.They "Suppongo che per" avere un privato cerimonia di domani mattina (martedì) a 8. Così, Michael non sta per essere al memoriale pubblico! Credo sinceramente ha solo voluto dare la sua carriera musicale, perché egli è diventato mentalmente instabile a causa del modo in cui il pubblico di lui e non trattati infanzia, che possono incidere qualcuno. 911 La chiamata, sembra "UNREAL" a me! E ora tutti d'un tratto tutto è venuta fuori la "buio" dire sì, Michael è stato tossicodipendenti, ho cercato, per avere aiuto, ma nessuno avrebbe ascoltato? That's crap! Sono sicuro che sarebbe di "fuoriusciti" fuori anni fa in merito alla droga. AEG (la compagnia di assicurazione), ha una politica che ha coperto Jackson accidentale "morte", anche da un "overdose", ma se non è morto di cause naturali. Quindi, apparentemente è "morto" di un sovradosaggio di demeoral o prescritti farmaci? Ci è tanti buchi nella storia. Ma nessuno è prestare attenzione, sono buzy ascolto / credere i mass media (che è bullshit )!!!!
Solo il mio parere! So che è là fuori da qualche parte, ma non in America! Non biasimo hime per fare tutto questo, se ho diritto. Egli è stato maltrattato così male per tanti anni. La camera iperbarica storia, Michael stesso effettivamente "soffiata" che uno.
Non lo so, è solo qualcosa di strano!
Michael ha iniziato la propria voce in merito alla camera iperbarica?
Perché è così che possiamo vedere la volontà di Michael, e il suo certificato di nascita dei bambini, ma nessuno si è preoccupato di esaminare il certificato di morte? Siamo solo accettare ciò che i media ci dice.
Mi auguro sinceramente che qualcosa succede al Memorial oggi, se poi non mi resta che accettare il fatto che Michael Jackson non è più. Quale modo migliore per avviare un tour mondiale che da tornare dai morti e performanti a vostro memoriale, quando tutto il mondo guarda!
Se non succede niente al memoriale di oggi, ho accettato il suo passaggio, come pure. Non posso andare con questa folle. Tuttavia, anche se oggi non succede nulla, lo so nel mio cuore qualcosa sta accadendo. Tutto ciò non è solo sommando. Voglio niente di più, ma per tornare a questo sito e discutere con tutti voi, come noi tutti sapevano che cosa stava succedendo. Si romperà il mio cuore se non posso avere qualche risposta in merito. Semplicemente, non ci credo che è morto. Non è la negazione, perché ho perso un membro della famiglia prima. So che il processo di lutto. Per me è sufficiente sapere qualcosa non è sommando. La mia bontà ....
Lei ha ragione. Perché chiunque hasn't interrogato il certificato di morte? Isnt è strano che nessuno dei medici che segno è?
Niente happent oggi alla memoriel. La gente era triste. Tranne una cosa, di Parigi, è stato l'unico che shoed emozioni per suo padre. Né il prezzo o Coperta fatto. Sembra un po 'strano. Ma credo che lui se ne è andato. Quando ho visto Parigi parlare con lui, e così successivamente devastato, ho appena conosciuto, direttamente lì. Egli è veramente andato. MIO DIO. Non ci potevo credere, il mio cuore appena arrestato, destra e dopo che è stato rotto. Ho sentito un grande in tutta la mia stomack, e mi è stato piangere ininterrottamente da allora. Perché Michael, perché non Joe Jackson? Odio che l'uomo, per quello che ha fatto a Michael
Ma, mi piacerebbe conoscere anche il certificato di morte, perché se qualcuno Dosen `t firmare, non sei morto, sulla carta. Ho sperato che abbiamo avuto modo di vedere Michael `s Corpo, ma noi didn` t
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Qualcosa sta sicuramente accadendo e qualcuno sa qualcosa. Ho appena digitato http://www.mjhoax.com e va al mondo di Internet Autorità sito web. MJ Forse voleva vedere se la sua morte da falsificazione popolare come è stato con i suoi fan. Quando nella storia abbiamo mai avuto uno strumento come Internet, per valutare come è successo che qualcuno? E scommetto che è in qualche luogo segreto guardando in soggezione come questo circo diventa sempre più ridicolo e fuori controllo. Tutto quello che so è che mi sono "accessibili tutti i settori"
Credo che il "memoriale" solo sembrava "diverso", se veramente è "morto" perché non hanno aperto la bara? La famiglia non è mai stato fino allo strappo. Specialmente i suoi figli, così che è stato strano. Non è in discussione su come è "morto"?
Essi solo tenendo sul tema "droga" e "che cosa accadrà con i bambini"? Dopo la Staples Center, la fermata presso l'Hotel, mentre il carro funebre si è altrove? Che costituiscono una seria non ha senso. Egli supposely stato "morto" per quasi 2 settimane, come si può non sapere dove seppellire la tua famiglia. In più, nessuno sa dove il suo corpo è a .... Il certificato di morte, a mio parere, è falso, chiunque può rendere tali. Non è firmato anche da qualsiasi medico .. Non importa se è in differita, un medico avrebbe ancora firmare il certificxate.
Le cose non sono sommando, Usher, è stato più emotivo, la sua "propria" famiglia. Yeah parigi ha emotivo dopo che gioca con la sua borsa cinghie per circa 5 minuti. Poi ha fatto un 180, non appena ha intensificato il microfono. Il figlio maggiore è stato gomme da masticare come un matto, non sembra anche triste. E il giovane stava facendo nulla, ma a partire .... Dubito che se vi fosse un corpo nella bara. Continuo a pensare che un vivere.
Perché avere un "privato" funerale prima, poi trasferire il suo corpo al Staples Center, potrebbe di stato il contrario.
Alla fine del memoriale, che ha dimostrato "Sono ancora vivo" Eh? Nessuno mette in dubbio tutto ciò, sono i mezzi di credere!
Devo dire che dopo aver guardato ieri Memorial So credere MJ è ufficialmente morto.
La sua causa di morte sul certificato di morte è stata 'differita' fino a quando i risultati del test di tossicologia tornare.
Ci sono alcune gravi questioni che si devono porsi -
1. Se MJ falso la sua morte e la sua famiglia, quindi sapere come si potrebbe visualizzare tali emozione come hanno fatto ieri sera?
2. Non c'è modo Michael Jackson avrebbe mai essere fuori dai propri bambini, così se si tratta di falsificazione che egli manderà per loro o si tornerà a Los Angeles. Nessun padre avrebbe messo i loro figli attraverso il calvario di un monumento funebre di servizio e si era tutto falso.
3. Sono d'accordo ci sono alcune cose su questo sospetto che dont aggiungere, ma mi pare la cosa è andata troppo lontano per lui mai tornare indietro.
4. Parlare di impostori o decoys essere utilizzate, e la convinzione che esso wasnt mj in ambulanza foto-come molti di noi sa che cosa effettivamente somiglia davvero MJ, voglio dire senza make up, vicino?
Non credo che Michael Jackson è morto sia. Ci sono troppe incongruenze in tutti è che sia vero. Prima di tutto ... il 911 chiamante è molto tranquillo e se il mio datore di lavoro sono stati Michael Jackson ed è stato non respira, vorrei essere isterico sul telefono cellulare o si dovrebbe almeno essere in grado di sentire un senso di urgenza nella mia voce. Egli non menziona mai che si tratta di Michael Jackson, o. Vorrei. Ora, vuoi dirmi che un medico con anni di esperienza sarebbe il tentativo di eseguire CPR su una superficie come un morbido letto? C'mon! Ho preso molti CPR classi e la prima cosa che ti insegnano è di provare ad avere il corpo su una superficie dura ... il dr. aveva detto di essere presente da parte del gestore 911? Ridicolo! Ed è come se non fosse stato in un incidente, avrebbe potuto avere rotto le ossa e che è il motivo per cui non aveva spostato la parola a lui! Inoltre ... nessuno della sua famiglia viene visualizzato alcun tipo di emozione sulla sua morte. Non posso credere che quando vedo i video di loro. Nessuno è pianto o nulla. Quando Matt Laurer intervistato Jermaine a Neverland, egli potrebbe avere avuto un flusso di strappare dal suo occhio, ma sembra quasi come se avesse a che la forza. E, ha detto che ha visto Michael Michael, perché il corpo ha bisogno e la sua ultima dichiarazione è stata: "è molto più vivo." (E 'inteso nel cuore di tutti gli uomini o si è detto in che modo lo si capisce in questo modo .
Io personalmente non credo che l'uomo con la conferenza stampa di Londra è stato Michael Jackson. Era così sbagliato ... in ogni modo l'aspetto, il suono, i suoi manierismi, anche il modo in cui ha camminato. È cannnot mi convince che è lui. Non sono sicuro di ciò che il significato di questo è e come si riferisce alla sua morte, ma è ancora molto strano.
Ci sono più incongruenze ... ci stava per essere inizialmente un pubblico di visualizzazione e che non è accaduto. Nessuno ha visto il corpo. Anche quando Elvis è morto, non vi è stata una foto di lui nella bara. Come possiamo sapere che il corpo di Michael è stato anche in quella bara a tutti? Essa avrebbe potuto benissimo vuoto per tutti sappiamo. E, sono d'accordo con la persona che qui ha detto che è strano che la famiglia ha un memoriale di servizio presso il cimitero prima del memoriale di servizio pubblico. Ora sentiamo che Michael non è nemmeno essere buriend in quel cimitero a tutti.
Io credo che se qualcuno aveva visto il suo corpo, ma non riesco a trovare nulla che ovunque su Internet.
I know I'm rambling, così mi segno per ora fuori e vedere che cosa si sviluppa.
Sono curioso di vedere se il bosy è andato! Ho pensato che si accingeva a un temporaneo tomba a Forest Prati, ma secondo i media nessuno è tornato indietro dopo il memoriale di servizio .... Sembra un po 'strano per loro di fare che, se non vi è stato un buon motivo! LA polizia ha detto che egli è stato sepolto nel cimitero di alcuni o di altri, ma non poteva essere specifici. Il tutto sembra essere coinvolto nella ambiguità, segretezza e di anomalie che non tornano.
Condivido la sua molto strano non vi sono ancora le immagini dei morti Michael Jackson. Non nella sua bara, nessuna foto della famiglia a Forest Prati. Ti fa meraviglia ... come la seguente paparazi sono queste persone, come gli avvoltoi, non dovrebbe esservi stata alcuna foto.
Ciò rende l'immagine di Michael essere lanciato in ospedale più sospettosi. In quel momento quasi nessuno conosce la sua situazione, come è possibile che solo in quel momento l'unica foto è presa in quel posto esatto? Essa avrebbe dovuto essere sconosciuto che Michael Jackson è stato il 911 come chiamata non rivelare il nome del signore.
Ci sono un sacco di copertura mediatica per il suo assunto la morte, e questa immagine è tutto abbiamo. Il paparazi dovrebbe essere la lotta contro il loro asino per via esclusiva le foto!
Sono lieto che ci siano altre persone che credono che questo è stato un impostore alla 02 Arena. Ho guardato il video su youtube e mi è stato immediatamente convinto il momento ho visto la impostore piedi, poi naturalmente, quando ha parlato. Ma sto ancora cercando di capire "perché" Michael aveva bisogno di un impersonator. Ho fatto un sacco di ricerca, e ho anche notato che sembra che dal 2005 vi sono stati altri impostori di lavoro in sostituzione di Michael .. Fate la vostra ricerca e confrontare le foto ei video. Se si conosce il volto di MJ, poi vedrete la differenza. Penso anche che è stato am impostore interviste con Geraldo, e ripassando sul palco per il concerto. Credo che Michael è stato pianificazione beffa per questo un po 'di tempo ormai, è molto intelligente e aveva i soldi per assumere il meglio del meglio impostori nel mondo - e, probabilmente, per pagare i loro interventi di chirurgia plastica. Ciascuna MJ ha questi impostori a fare la sua apparenza mentre lui è la sua trama get-via,,, o è stato ucciso prima di questi impostori e stavano cercando di coprire questo è tutto il tempo ... Non so che cosa credere. . Qualcuno ha un commento su questo?
Per Tiffany:
E 'possibile che Michael è morto un paio di mesi fa e ha preso il suo posto impostori. Forse è stato ucciso per il suo debito verso il Bahrein Princes. Tutte le possibili ..
Ma da quel punto AEG aveva un problema, come la 'questo è' (doubtfull nome) tour era già programmato e un sacco di Monney è stato coinvolto. Così hanno messo in atto un impostore e realizzato il piano di lasciarlo 'morire' un paio di giorni / settimane prima del primo concerto come l'impostore non è stato in grado di fare gli spettacoli, senza essere notato come diverse. Questo può anche essere il motivo di un ritardo del primo concerti.
Dopo la scena di morte, sanno che le vendite di CD, DVD e altro merchandising sarà cielo alto, cercando di ridurre al minimo le perdite, oppure, come sembra, al momento, effettuare o stanno andando a fare un sacco di soldi dal 'Ultima prova DVD' , il 'Memorial DVD' omaggio e concerti.
Questo mi lascia con una domanda: Come si potrebbe ingannare l'impostore Michaels bambini e la famiglia o con altri parenti. Essi sarebbero facilmente conoscere le differenze. Egli può guardare lo stesso, ma non avrà la stessa memoria come Michael.
(Tuttavia voci / notizie nei Paesi Bassi, è ora che il coronor ancora Michaels cervello per ulteriori indagini)
Dopo aver visto Parigi cosa di nuovo, non ha senso che suona come si tratta di un fronte. Ho pensato la stessa cosa per vedere il suo sorriso tutta la memoria e poi, alla fine, ha solo alti e volontari per il suo discorso pubblico? Io non lo credo. Michael è stato 5'10Ft, e il primo pensiero che è venuto alla mia mente quando ho visto la bara laminati fuori che era troppo piccolo! Mai nella storia di morti anche se ho sentito parlare di un corpo non è sepolto nel giro di due settimane. Questo è solo normalmente inedite. Qualcosa è finito, che lo so. Penso che la memoria è stata in scena. Forse ognuno è ripagato in questo caso. SE, Michael non sempre riescono a superficie di nuovo, La polizia non arrestarlo a causa di un accordo di denaro. Tutto è possibile. Dopo tutto, se Michael scena, tutto è possibile, tutto è possibile. Mi sento più a suo agio nel sapere che è ancora vivo. Un onere è stato un po 'sollevato dal mio spalle. Non riesco a immaginare un mondo senza di lui in essa.
Se fallo giocare erano sospetti, perché non ha il suthorities mantenere il corpo? Se si trattasse di Joe pubblico, poi fino a che tutte le vie che erano state esplorate e poi il corpo sarebbe stato rilasciato per la sepoltura. N. cremazione sarebbe sanzionato in quanto questi potrebbero aver bisogno di exume il corpo per ulteriori tesing. So che questo come un dato di fatto, perché è successo ai miei amici Madre morto nei primi anni 90 in circostanze sospette e che non consentono una cremazione. Il suo corpo è stato scavato fino alcuni mesi dopo la sua morte per un secondo il PM.
Ho appena parlato con un amico che è una donna di polizia e lei concorda con me sul fatto che lei è convinta che egli sia ancora vivo ed è sfuggito il "mondo" per cercare di guadagnare un po semblamce di normalità negli ultimi anni della sua vita . Ha poi dire perché pensava di non avere un bara aperta come James Brown aveva o Principessa Grace di Monaco. Perché la gente non poteva tranquillamente file passato e la loro ultima retribuzione repects? Se si è "solo un attacco di cuore, poi la testa sarebbe intatti per la visualizzazione, anche se appena avuto un voile stoffa su di esso, sarebbe in qualche modo dare conferma della sua morte.
Infine, sono d'accordo con altre osservazioni circa le vendite dei suoi album e associati il merchandising, la proprietà sarebbe ancora una volta che da un valore di milioni di soli.
Ancora non convinto è morto!
C'è sicuramente un sacco di sbagliato in questo caso. A proposito delle dimensioni della bara: Dalle immagini che ho visto, un organismo che non è situata direttamente nel box, ma non vi è una sorta di 'presidente' costruire in cui diminuisce la lunghezza utilizzata per un corpo pieno. Forse questa è la ragione per la bara cercando troppo breve
E 'STATA Michael nel video rehearsels `s danceing e sining. ! prima di tutto, va vicino alla fotocamera, i pausa il video, e guardava i suoi occhi, nessuno, non importa quanto tali surgury può avere gli occhi belli. Se si sta guardando da vicino, è possibile ascoltare Michael parlare tante volte, mentre lui è sining, che è la sua voce. E il damce, è possibile prectice sempre se si vuole, ma nessuno si muove come Michael. Sono abbastanza sicuro, che è stato lui a rehearsels. Sono d'accordo con la coment, dove vi è scritto, che la polizia non l'arresto di Michael, se egli dovrebbe mai apparire di nuovo, non sono abituato. Egli può risolvere che con i soldi. Ma se egli è vivo, egli tornerà. Probely ad una delle date del concerto. Sono certo che i bambini sanno che egli è vivo. Avrei pensato che lui era morto davvero, se i Haden `t visto la frase: Im vivo, sono im qui per sempre" Farò una scommessa su quella che è stata un segno. Ma nessuno prestato attenzione a ciò, alcune persone semplicemente credere a quello che i media ci dice. I don `t Credo che Michael è tornato in vita, e il mondo scoprirà ben presto.
Ho appena analizzato la registrazione di 911 pubblicato sul "Youtube" e la risposta alterata dal medico, mentre i servizi di emergenza si parla al chiamante è questa "E 'Michael Jackson, gli dico di venire" La voce del medico suoni stranieri, sia europei o ispanica - latino americano - mi hanno rallentato la registrazione in giù, a quel punto, e raccolse ciò che egli diceva. Un altro intrigante pezzo è appena prima del chiamante viene chiesto di metterlo sul pavimento, un altro oratore - non il chiamante, non l'operatore di emergenza - dice: "E 'sul pavimento" Perché! E 'quasi come essere chiesto di dire le cose particolare durante la conversazione. L'operatore poi dice: "E 'sul piano "!!!!! Non sembra che la "urgenza" che vi aspettereste da voci in background, che sembrano parlare in modo tranquillo, in situazioni come queste informazioni sono spesso passati tra le parti a un buon tasso di affrettato a garantire che la "ferita" è frequentato per il più rapidamente possibile. Il "Golden Hour" è la prima ora dopo un incidente, quando nella maggior parte dei casi la parte lesa può essere ripreso a pieno la salute, il medico avrebbe dovuto sapere e questo ha risposto immediatamente per far sì che Michael Jackson sarebbe sopravvissuto. MA, se fosse stato la somministrazione di farmaci che sono stati la possibile causa di questo, allora è stata la sua copertura tracce, o fare un tentativo zoppo a farlo.
Ho letto su questo anni fa ... MJ fase sarebbe la sua morte .... (Sindrome Messia) ... e poi tornare con la più grande rimonta di tutti i tempi .... Ony e la persona che sono autorizzati a colloquio su di lui "come ha tirato fuori questa" .... E 'UNA FAVOLA! ha voluto dimostrare al mondo che il "Media può essere sbagliata" ... questo metterà a chiusura Bambino molestation accuse .... Whacko Jacko insulti ... e nel silenzio, espacially CNN ... .. di avere qualsiasi jounalistic intengrity da quel momento in poi!
Questo è il motivo per cui non è stato Oprah intorno a tutti!
I suoi migliori amici non sono stati AAT Memorial ... ... Liz Taylor. LIZA MINELLI AGENZIA ... ... ... Chris Tucker. Diana Ross ... .. e tanti altri .... MJs Famiglia aiutare tutti con la beffa ... a buttare via tutti!
Rickster, per essere completamente hornest, credo che lei abbia ragione. Questo è stato il mio pensiero mai visto questo messaggio apeared sul palco backwall il fiocco Center. Penso che dovremo aspettare e vedere til Famiglia stanno facendo alcune date del concerto, e il "Jackson 5 Reunion"
Maybe Mj has gone to start a new life in Bahrain dressed in arabic clothes like this-
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article719783.ece
Or maybe hes walking round dressed as a woman like this-
http://worldofwonder.net/archives/2006/10/12/girlie_jeans/
Actually I recently watched the Oprah interview with MJ at Neverland Ranch. In the private theatre of the ranch MJ says something like “I try to imitate Jesus (then pauses) I mean I'm not saying I am Jesus”. He says this about helping children but if he tries to imitate Jesus, why not try a “resurrection” of some sort as well…? I also just read about a rumour saying that the O2 concerts will show the last rehearsal video which is shot in 3D and the article said “so it's almost like he is really there”. I find that a pretty untasteful choice from the Jackson family if he really is dead. But I don't know, it's just a thought..
everyone's contribution on this blog is offering different view points and observation of details, this tells me ppl besides myself are thinking … we can bring MJ' “death” to one common denominator and that is: Michael Jackson staged is own death and has disappeared from view for now. All the “details” surrounding his disappearance have not been perfectly executed as many have expressed doubts and questions about this “event”. It is simply this: the media is seducing all of us with “Michael Jackson” mania and it is exactly this ongoing seduction with ever “new information” emerging that is done to keep distracting from the real truth, a truth so many on this blog have offered bits and pieces of. What we know about the truth are 2 things: 1. it is Self-Evident, and 2. it always prevails, but it takes its time to prevail and we may never again lay eyes on Michael Jackson live on stage or otherwise. While Elvis is hiding in the US witness protection program, MJ has another agenda and might decide to do a shock and awe resurrection act, we will see how long the truth will take to at some point prevail, and, reveal itself.
There is no CREDIBLE evidence that MJ is dead, a “death certifiate” can be forged and put in circulation to dampen the curiousity of those of us who are doubtful, and more such “evidence” will be floated, they have quite a job to do to quiet this all down, after all, this IS Michael jackson …. Michael Jackson was/is loved the world over and if he decides to “reappear”, trust me, NOT ONE SINGLE person will hold against him having staged his own death, but everyone will be in total shock/pure joy that he is back … if he decides to stay in hiding, he might find a life he was longing for and may prefer to stay clandestine, we will see, won't we ?
Heisalive. I agree with you of most of the stuff
. Michael will not be “gone” for long, like you said, he is loved all over the world and NOONE would blame him for doing this. The entire would would be in chock, but it would be the greatest plug ever pulled. I would be so happy if he decited to reveal himself, on the concert at his birthday, wich his siblings are going to do. But unfortiently i also think that i would have amidietly heart failer lol, i would just die, if he came back. So you just have to love him for me 
They were showing a picture of michael from the liberian girl video set alot at the end, ive made up my mind that the show was a MJ production all but the filming. Even Bubbles would see past this hoax. There is two many cues hidden in the whole memorial.
MyBelovedMJ … I did not say MJ “will not be gone for long” at all, re-read my previous posting and you will see I did NOT say, nor imply it, my point made has a different meaning altogether. Remember this: Michael Jackson is not a healthy man physically nor emotionally as was very obvious while he was visible. Ergo: He'll require a great deal of time and care to reacquire his bearings before any “comeback” could be considered and materialize.
“Loving him for you” is not an option on my end, the only man I really love is: JESUS and HE WILL BE BACK FOR CERTAIN, no question.
Michael Jackson is made out of the same dirt we're all made out of, he had the added blessing of great talent which was wrapped into a gentle, vulnerable soul which shows itself as eccentricity in an artist. It occured to me just this afternoon that MJ was born into and raised in a dysfunctional family, having had to endure an abusive father (who reminds me of the devil in person btw!) having had his childhood stolen from him by force and was made into a energizer bunny-like “money machine” for years on end, an overbearing load to shoulder and bear for any human, twiceover taxing for a kindred spirit and soul as it is Michael Jackson.
Again, all of this logically supports the “escape/run away” theory of a “staged death”. I pray he is under the best medical care by REAL doctors and is receiving the “”don't stop 'til you get enough”"-help he needs, in a safe place where noone can get to him, pray for God's love to heal him …..
Dave859, you are absolutely right about “hidden clues in the memorial service”. I am convinced there was NO body in that casket for starters and moreover, important friends didnt show, but folks who hadn't had contact with MJ in years and/or had only met him once, etc etc. This whole thing has a negligent “director”, Elvis' parting was staged far more intricately and meticulously, dont cha agree ?
La gaffe fatto di montaggio e il montaggio sono tuttavia riconoscibili solo per quelli di noi che sono fino a tutto ciò. Nel frattempo, i mass media, è ora in pietra su tutte le "cose di droga" coming out e mantiene sempre più fluttuante "seduzione" .... Grazie per la lettura, si prega di post indietro
bexuk: ho pensato anch'io. Forse è su Medio Oriente, da qualche parte assumendo un nuovo nome, nuova identità, e tutta una vita nuova, una vita piena di pace - è stato qualcosa di nostalgia per la sua intera vita.
Concordo sul fatto che vi è una quantità enorme di informazioni a partire dalla catena di eventi a partire Michael casa che anche i mass media non sembrano affrontare, o che ho perso. Quando qualcuno ti passa sul cuore è la cosa più naturale ad avere dubbi. Ho da dire però che questi conflitti sono un po 'molto anche per me. Credo che lui è stato in occasione della conferenza. Sono d'accordo con la ragazza di cui sopra che la sua porta non sembra come il suo, quando camminava nelle dal veicolo al di fuori, ma credo che in parte perché la giacca è stata così grande. E penso che lui era sul palco nel corso della conferenza. That was his face, voice and the hands were his. He seemed loopy. I think he was probably tipsy on something. Someone on another page on this site made a mention about Paris and I had to agree with him. She didn't seem that upset. This could be because the initial shock at passed – so many days had gone by. I don't doubt for one minute that she loved her daddy deeply. She was telling all the hateful people in the world how wonderful Michael was and he was. But it was when Paris spoke that I took a step back and thought hmmm….I wonder…could he still be among us. But let's be sensible I tell myself…It would be quite an undertaking for all of these people to pull off this hoax. I'd like to know what the deal is with the DOCTOR that was at the house. Why in the world would he immediately surround himself with a legal team if something wasn't amiss. Whether Michael is physically gone or not, one thing is certain..we will never see him again.
Most people around the world would attest that Michael Jackson is the greatest and most popular entertainer in the world. That said, if anyone could pull off a death hoax, it would certainly be him. Perché fare questo? 1) He was in debt. His albums now occupy the top five spots on Billboard album sales and estimates indicate that within the week these sales will have paid off his debt. 2) He is very innovative, which is what keeps him at the top of his game as an entertainer. By faking his death and then reappearing, his popularity and worth will skyrocket. People will feel that they have a “second chance” to witness him perform, and they will not hesitate to pass up that opportunity. 3) The combined publicity from this event and from his future reappearance are quite strategic maneuvers, both career-wise and financially. 4) There was a recent article pointing out that Prince was now “on top” in terms of hit music, when compared to Michael Jackson. Also, Prince played for 21 nights in London last year, yet Michael's shows were already up to 50 in London. Surely, that's a sign of competition between the two.
Possible evidence: 1) No tears were shed during the “memorial service” by any of the family members. Sure, there were several moments of choking up, but not a single tear — look at the picture from the cover of USAToday. 2) We have a symbolic tradition here in the US that when you are hopefully expecting the return of a loved one you tie or display a yellow ribbon. All of the Jackson brothers were wearing yellow ties at the memorial service. 3) Jackson's shows were scheduled to begin on July 13th and couldn't have gone on much longer before the production having to move to London for those performances. They already had Staples Center rented out for rehearsals, which seems a bit much for just rehearsals in that it just so happens to be the largest indoor venue in one of the largest cities in the US I mean, Pink Floyd practiced in an airplane hangar, not a prime venue at some exorbitant rate. So, having the largest facility in one of the largest cities already rented, they were able to pull off this “memorial service” bit.
I'd also like to point out that James Brown, Michael Jackson's idol as a performer, died on December 25. Michael “died” on June 25 — exactly six months opposite and surely symbolic. And even JB had an open casket.
The difference between Michael and Elvis in the suggestion of them faking their deaths is that I don't believe that anyone had suggested that a celebrity would do this until Elvis died. I believe Elvis is dead (though that movie Bubba Ho-tep is pretty funny), but the idea of a celebrity death hoax was born with him and for 32 years Michael has been able to ponder that scenario for himself. I don't ever recall hearing that MJ loathed or disliked his celebrity; from what I understand, he always knew it to be a part of his life, and with the upcoming shows, it is obvious that he intended on staying in the spotlight. Therefore, it is unreasonable to think that he would pull a death hoax to end his career, rather, he would only use it to catapult it to a level beyond where it had been before.
Crazy? Eventualmente. Unrealistic? Not hardly. Will Michael Jackson be back? Vedremo.
Good post Rickster…
Usually Oprah is all over stuff like this and not one word has she spoken about MJ. No bantering to try and get interviews with the family, nothing.
MJ's true friends were not at the memorial (okay maybe Stevie Wonder and uh, what's his name, I think Lionel Richie or was that Smokey Robinson, I don't remember anymore…lol… but the Jackson family requested Queen Latifah, John Mayer, Jennifer Hudson to be there and they said they had never even met MJ! (I found that out on the Huffington Post).
Now why would the family invite people whom Michael hadn't met?
The Huffington Post also mentioned that Usher and Mariah Carey barely knew MJ and that Brooke Shields hadn't seen / talked to him in 18 years.
What in the world is going on?
I have just been reading about the “disappearances” of prominent people over the years. One that stood out in my mind was the Premier of Australia – Harold Holt – He “vanished” after going swimming. No body was ever recovered, that was in 1967. There has been speculation about his disappearance since that time. Another is Lord Lucan, who vanished without a trace after, apparently murdering the families nanny back in 1974.
http://www.lordlucan.com/lucan_story.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Holt
I read in my local paper just after MJ “died” about one of his security men who comes from North Wales, where I live. He said that MJ had a secret companion, to whom he was absolutely devoted. She was kept from the publics gaze, and was never seen with him, but was in his life and that she may emerge after his death……Well, where is she???? Have they gone off together, has he planned this so well that he would never be alone if she were with him??? Troppe domande e risposte non basta. Another thing I saw today was on the front cover of The Star newspaper
http://www.dailystar.co.uk
circa un paio che affermano di essere i veri genitori di bambini MJ ... .. Sono tutti saltando sul carro banda adesso, ma sarà interessante vedere se le richieste sono fondate! N. fumo senza fuoco Dico. Come era stato detto un paio di volte su questo forum, egli non avrebbe mai lasciare "i suoi" ragazzi, ma se dovesse scoprire che non erano suoi, poi può essere così devastata che questo è il genere di cosa avrebbe fatto, anguise e il tormento sarebbe troppo per lui.
Basta un pensiero !!!!!
DOVE SI TROVA IL SUO CORPO ???????? Ancora nessun segno di una sepoltura !!!!!
hhhmm Non so cosa dire, ma mantenere in cui pregare per lui è sempre Mike.
La divina perdere jones. Il compagno si è parlato, che Michael aveva. Ho sentito dire che si è sparato nel dicembre dello scorso anno. Ma chi sa `s
Se devono essere insieme, spero che lui è felice 
Non so molto di Elvis e la sua morte ha sostenuto hoax. Ma se Elvis fraudolento della sua morte, sarebbe stato molto più facile avere nel 1970. Non è stato Internet o cellulare. E 'stato molto più facile per coprire le cose.
Ora Michael forse tentato nuovamente nel 21 secolo, dove quasi evryone ha accesso a internet, telefono cellulare macchina fotografica.
Sarebbe molto più difficile oggi per tirare fuori questo. Ci sono tante cose da prendere in considerazione a tale morte un finto lavoro. Ora sembra ci sono alcuni sciolto finisce che non possono coprire fino (più).
Questo può anche essere il motivo per cui un sacco di storie negative su Michaels bambini, il suo abuso di droga e il suo debito nei media. Essi cercano di distrarre da ciò che le persone veramente happenend. La maggior parte delle fonti di Tess articoli sono vicine alla famiglia o ex dipendenti di Michael. Ma nessuno di loro (OK, alcune eccezioni) è chiamato per nome in questi articoli.
Spero che ci sarà una conferma per i prossimi giorni tempo egli realmente è morto o è falsa la sua morte.
ha fatto dormire in una camera iperbarica che è vero
egli non è con qualcuno che conosco per un dato di fatto i miei non darà informazioni, ma egli è unico e non è mai stato coinvolto dopo Debbie non so dove hai sentito che lol
wow new info mother katherine gets kids and debbie rowe now asked for a delay to decide ok why the change she wanted them she said they are my children now she has to think about it who has talked to her about plans lol who is paying her off she was very determined to get her kids now she needs time to think the plot thinkens why is everything michael wanted unfolding must be for a reason i wonder how many ppl are getting paid off to complete this
Supermon75, well one of his bodyguards, said it on an interwiev. Don`t remember his name. but he did.. well good to know that he is singel. Cause i think he is sexy
Former bodygurds, i should say. a few days after michael “died”.
The family was furious that the hearse was drove by a white SWAP member.They wanted it to be an African American who drove the hearse.
After the memorial there was no body of mj in the hearse.
What does it matter who drove the hearse.
You can read it at the following link:
http:www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/07/exclusive-swat-team-transported-michael-jackson's-body-family-battled-cops
The body of mj is being held in the crypt of Berry Gordy.
The family has not decided “yet” wher he should be buried.
If you still don't know that after more than 2 weeks then you'll never know.
But then you can stretch this as long as possible.
http://
http://www.nme.com/news/michael-jackson/45976
my other comment had to be SWAT member.And the link is:
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/07/exclusive-swat-team-transported-michael-jackson 's-body-family-battled-cops
They firts said there was no evidence of foul play.
And now they say it can turn in to a homicide case.
Can anyone tell me what is the difference.
this MJ saga is getting real ugly now with all the drug info coming out and poured all over him. Was it a wonder that MJ was addicted to drugs ? Were drugs his only escape ? This is very very likely. As to his chronic insomnia: this one goes to monster Daddy Dearest Joe Jackson who when Michael was a young boy, appeared with a werewulf mask at his bedroom window to “teach im a lesson” to keep the window closed at nite. Imagine how this “trick” from Daddy Joe must have petrified little Michael at the time this took place. Incidents like this one created irreversible damage to the psyche of a human, especially a young child. This ghoulish experience and fear grew with Michael and the fear part would not let him sleep normally, so he reached for help and over did it.
As a young child, I had several incidents with a variety of animals who attacked and hurt me, so much so, that I could never shake the fear of them and this fear is still with me very much, so in a way, I can relate to Michael's fear of going to sleep. I deliberately choose a community to live in where housepets are shunned on and are forbidden so that I can feel TOTALLY SECURE to not be attacked by an animal.
Michael was petrified, fearful of a whole list of things, what better motivator to escape it all .. escape to: SAFETY !!!
Chi?
bt dont you think lapd is intelligent enough to check the dna of mj and of that imposter or the police dept. is also involved. i really want to believe that mj is still alive.
every day new drug is been published to which( the media claims) that mj was addicted to. i think had mj been doing so many drugs at one go he would have died years ago . come on yaar i really wanna know the reality
how can media nt hound upon a single clip of mjs dead body is beyond my understanding
how can mj fool the docs the police the media and everything which goes into it. i am hoping for an answer soon..
My husband – whose initials are MJ – runs a business from home and yesterday a woman called to ask what the MJ stood for, when I told her she went quiet, then I twigged, and said, “Did you think it stood for Michael Jackson?” to which she slammed the phone down. People are doing some very strange things.
I have asked around about the “temporary” burial of a body. In Britain that cannot de done because it requires special permission from a Government Department called the Home Office to move the body once a burial has taken place. In order to remove it from one spot to another you would have to be granted an exumation order. I am sure that similar rules apply in the US and if this is the case, you need to be looking at City Hall records and Government Departments to find out if such a request is being made.
Lsstly, a comment from my 11 year old son…Why did President Obama seem so unmoved by the event, during an interview he had to be prompted to say something about it. Considering MJ's popularity you would have thought that to “humour” his fans a Presidential recognition of the death for have been one of his main topics.!!!!!!
i dont know how to put this bt honestly i believe whether he is gone into hiding or god forbaid he is even dead . i think he is in a better position in a better state than he was earlier. out of all this media hooplah the crazy stories.he deserved every bit of peace he wasnt able to get. it hard bt lets face it we never deserved mj we never respected him when he was alive and giving us so much to cherish . and know we are remembering him and wishing him to come back. how stupid of us. he was the best he was like jesus who went into so much of suffering for his children (the world) and what we gave him crucification ditto we have done with jackson.
Dikki. Do not say, “WE” Never did. Speak for yourself. Some of us actuelly did
i said we bcuz we were sitting silent in our homes when allegations were being charged on him. we didnt do anything we could have bought protests or something may bur tryin to over react read my sentence in the context am saying
and as for me i have been fighting with my friends and relatives who have been telling me that he was what media framed him to b. i love him and i know it.
Now here's a thought, and it's just a thought. Thinking back to a personal experience of mine. My step-father died very suddenly from a heart attack about 6 weeks after having a pace maker inplanted. For the 6 weeks that he lived he said he felt great, and he looked fine, then WHAM! Gone. The PM in his case found a blood clot that had been sitting in his blood stream for goodness knows how long, once the pace maker was in place the heart beat regulated and the blood flow increased, accelerating the clot to his heart thus giving him the heart attack. He actually died mid sentence while talking to a friend.
Now, lets do a “what if” senario for MJ. What if he too had a blood clot. Years of plane travel can apparently cause one of these beasts. “What if” the rigorous dance routines and rehearsals had acclerated the heart beat, thus pumping the clot round to his heart. He may have felt some chest pain prior to dying, he may have asked for pain relief. We don't know, we were'nt there. This could have been missed by a physical, just as my step-fathers (prior to his surgery).
As I said, it's just a thought, but I feel it is one that I should voice.
Okay!
so everybody thinks he faked his death…..
well to be honest if i could choose i would love that he would still be alive.
But i got a question…..
they have that last photo from him on the ambulance, he went to the hospital, that might have happened.
Let me tell you this, I'm from portugal and before they broke the news in the states that michael was dead, here in postugal that had already done that, in US media there was only the news that he went to the hospital, nothing more, probably an hour later they gave the news that he died… so does this mean anything i don't……
But why say that he faked his death????? did anyone thought of the possibility that he might be in a coma and and his managers and family faked his death??????
Well i really don't whta to believe, maybe we all never thought that we would die someday, that he was invincible, maybe he died and just can't cope with that, we are so desperate to believe that he is still alive…..
To be HONEST i really want him to be alive, it just feels like music died
Okey. Sento ya. Posso solo parlare per me qui
. Im not to desperate to think that he might still be alive. But i am pretty sure that he aint dead. Look at sll the facts, all the hints at the memoriel. Nothing adds up. NULLA. And to be hornest, the one to tank for that is Latoys, she really blew it, at that thing where she was talking. She said: Michael always said, Family 1st fans 2nd. He loves you very much, and he is watching every singel one of you right now. He loves you with all his heart. Let me just say!!! DOHH!!! That was pretty stupid of her.. She should have talked about him in pressence sence. Not like he is still here, if she wanted to keep up his cover. Im glad that she aint my sister, incase i ever needed to fake my own death. That would be bad
I am convinced this is a hoax at the 02 arena Michael Jackson said I am serious this is the last curtain call and gave a suspicious look He stated “This Is It”. When Oprah did not make a public announcement. Something was strange when the family managers set up a crisis line and told fans please do not kill themselves. And when his brother said Michael Jackson maybe they will leave you alone. I believe the memorial service was a goodbye to his fans and career as an entertainer. He was saying good bye to his music career to peruse a peaceful life away from the media attention. Michael Jackson if you are out their alive I don't blame you thank you for all the wonderful music. Your music will live forever
Well well well, somebody else besides me has FINALLY noticed that the video footage from the rehearsal the night before MJ's alleged “death” is OLD FOOTAGE. NO human as weak as MJ appearing in the media weighing only 112 lbs is physically able to pull off a dance routine like shown in the vido, no way !!!! I am a dancer myself and can say with credible certainty that it is NOT possible ! My “this cannot be MJ”-hunch with this video was right on target. This net of lies being spun and presented to the public is outrageous in that these ppl, AEG and the Jacksons think we are all stupid ???
Not one single member of the mainstream media has so much as breathed a word that MJ staged his death, with one possible exception: Gerald Hessler from “The daily beast”, a US rag last sunday stated on the Geraldo Rivera Show that Michael “did not want to do this at all” referring to the London gig/s and said further that MJ wanted to use “Swine flu” to get “out of the gig” .. Hessler barely got the last cylable out of his mouth when he was CUT off and the subject was abruptly changed, did anyone besides me see that show ???
Hessler was on again this evening, 7/12, but this time hummed an altogether different tune and talked “nicely” …'hint'
LaToya's interview with some british rag is real heavy hitting, have the Jackson's become aware that the public is onto them and gave this interview to up the score ? Very possible !
I consider it a likely possibility that MJ made away right after his appearance at the rehearsal,that is: if that was him at all OR one of his doubles; that the person in the ambulance was definitely NOT MJ is very obvious as well as the double at the London press conference; that NONE of MJ's close friends like Taylor, Ross, Minelli, Uri Geller and many others did not show at the memorial AND are still NOT speaking out is highly questioable and beyond bizarre; that LaToya “gave” an interview to some british rag to inject a new hit of crack-cocaine into more “these are the facts” media floating ??? How LONG can these ppl keep up this act ?
What they NEED to do is button up and stay in total seclusion if they want the public to believe that MJ has really “died” …
This is a conspiracy and whatever “information” is being floated and coming, whatever, I just pray that Michael is under the medical care of doctors he can trust and are are treating him to become well again, mentally and physically so that he can live a life he has yearned for elsewhere. We may never see him again and if that is so, remember: we did have the best of him for years and he is entitled to live a life in peace and safety.
What is everybody else thinking ?
he was not 112 that was a lie
they said in the autopsy michael was very helthy and no signs of foul play and they ruled out natrual causes already
he wanted air time is is all gossip do not believe anything you here like one of his former house keeper trie to say he locked children in his room feed them wine in baby bottles come on now he would never do that
I think MJ would have been better of saying he caught Swine Flu to get out of these gigs he so obviously did not want to do and was pressured into! If only he knew what type of circus and media frenzy he would create by instead faking his death.
Then again, he probably just didn't care anymore. I hope he is well, wherever he is.
Sono d'accordo con lei. I don`t care if he ever comes back to perform. As long as he is alive, safe and well. That is the only thing that matters to me
michael would never inject himself i do not belive he was an addict at all and the media is cooking something up cause then they will not get paid if he is not found dead by overdose as it is stated in his insurance claim for the this is it concert they cover over dose but not natrual causes
here is another one for you all xanax if he was taking as much as they say he would be to tired to do anything he would not have sleep ap ok and most of the drugs he was doin are downers so how do they get he can not sleep out of that i do not understand
Correction: “The Daily Beast” reporter's name is Gerald POSNER (I am sorry I misunderstood the name and got it correctly the 2nd time) apologies – thanks
My 11 year old son has been playing detective regarding MJ. Now here is an observation that he made about MJ's right hand….Follow me with this one because you have to be quick. I am attaching a video of “The way you make me feel” from Youtube. At 3.14 – just after he shouts “Hey”, he extends two fingers and his thumb of his right hand. The thumb is the bit you need to concentrate on…You will notice that the tumb itstself curls at quite an acute angle and the bone just above sticks out to give an almost triangular appearance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJrUa-zKeIc
If you look at other footage ie the press conference in O2 arena London check out his right hand…for the same anomalies that I have already mentioned.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_256XQiS1X8
You could possibly trace his entire career by just looking for that one over-riding physical – dare I say – defect – I am, but not in a malicious way.
Now look at the “final rehearsal” video…At the end of the routine he extends his right arm and hand…check it out. Unless he had surgery to correct his hands, which could explain gloves and gauntlets in the past…then it looks to me, and this is a personal observation…to be someone else.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_256XQiS1X8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRQrmOc-Tts
This is the rehearsal footage that I watched. Sorry…repeated the youtube links. Take a look following the thread about the right hand.
Mrs. Jones: I agree about the “defect” but if you look at this video at about 45 seconds, he extends his hand and the bump is gone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz_J_do9hzY&feature=related
But if you look at the O2 Press Conference video, “MJ” calls the guy over and puts his hand on his shoulder and the bump is there!
However, I do NOT think it was really MJ at the press conference. The chin, smile, moves, etc. MJ would not get up there and talk the way this guy did. He sounded like an idiot. MJ was/is very well spoken in front of the camera. Look at any of his interviews. One thing about his hands, he seems to have the longest hands on a human! Veramente! His fingers are so long! But at the press conf, his hands are shorter and fatter it seems. MJ's hands are so skinny too. Not at the conference, yet he doesn't appear to have put on any weight. I know when most people put on weight, your fingers get fatter too. don't they? Anyway, at the press conference, that is NAVI! Not MJ. Look at Navi's pics. He has a wide smile, and his lips look more like a normal mouth than MJ's (normal?). Whether or not MJ is really dead, that is NOT him at the conference. That is Navi! Your son is very observant! Keep it coming!
Over lunch the family came up with some other theories. One of which is this, MJ borrowed money from a Saudi prince – Yes! He was then asked to repay the money back – If he was as broke as they say, where did the cash come from? Our over lunch theorizing was this – and you have to remember that we were allowing our minds to do overtime on the conspiracy
theory – what if he borrowed it again from the Mafia, couldn't pay it back and the doctor was paid to see him off. With the so called pain killer adiction, no one would question too deeply what the doctor did…As I said, it was over lunch, and it was a bash at a theory.
I miss him, the world was a much better place with him in it, I only wish I had appreciated him more when he was here.
I KNOW that was MJ at the 02 confrence.
Navi has a deeper voice then MJ.
Hi Divershay, And Hi there everyone from a warm and windy North Wales.
Now, let us suppose that if you are told something often enough, you start to believe it!
If we, the fans, are told that the person we are looking at is MJ, then, are we not drawn into the plot to keep the real MJ from prying eyes. A confidence trick.
During the 2nd World War there was a chap who looked like General Montgomery. A plan was devised to use this man to impersonate Monty and go to North Africa.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Was_Monty 's_Double_(film)
This makes the impersonator theory a good one, because we do not see the man – MJ – all the time, the person thrust infront of us, who we are told is MJ, we beieve is MJ. We only see photos that are tarted up and made to look enigmatic. We so want it to be him, that we truly believe that it is.
Tonight, on British Television – Channel 4 – was a documentary about the passing of MJ. I am attaching a link for those who missed it. You may be able to watch it on line. I am making no comments, but will leave the story to unfold and see what you think.
Another suggestion by Benjamin – my 11 year old – Try this for size…..The gold coffin with the seat like interior was designed so that a “living” Micheal Jacksin could attend his own memorial service. The huge bunch of flowers on the top hid an oxygen tank so that he could breath and the length of time for the service was determined by the amount of oxygen in the cylinder. Daft, but plausible!!!!!
Hey, you know what, it's more plausible than daft.
Previous comments about his friends who were mysteriously not at the memorial is strange. If someone of that stature passes and you are asked to attend a memorial, you would put everything on hold, pull out all the stops and turn up. No Oprah, no Liz Taylor just folk who had maybe met him once, if that. Catterwalling some tune out – some of it was terrible – it was dreadful.
And I still wonder what the hell they did with the coffin afterwards!!!! Is it like a kind of transformer and changed from a coffin into a set of matching suitcases. Carried out so no one noticed.
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/what-really-happened
The link to Channel 4's documentary about MJ.
Here's what I don't get. The Jackson were okay with helicopters flying above Forest Lawn the days before the memorial, the day of the memorial AND even let the helicopters follow the motorcade with the hearse to the staples center BUT would not let the coffin leave staples center being recorded? It's being “said” that the coffin was taken through the tunnels under the Staples center and loaded into an unmarked van and taken away. PERCHE '? YOU JUST LET EVERYBODY FILM YOU BRING IT THERE!! And seriously…who lends out their family crypt(reporting that MJ is temporarily being held inside the Berry Gordy family crypt) Which he has now denied. MJ IS MISSING!!!!
@ The Divine Mrs Jones – that last paragraph made me laugh! I could just imagine the coffin turning into a bunch of suitcases. OR MAYBE LATOYA WAS HIDING MJ IN HER DAMN HUGE HAT! (not seriously, but damn that hat needed it's own zipcode!)
“And I still wonder what the hell they did with the coffin afterwards!!!! Is it like a kind of transformer and changed from a coffin into a set of matching suitcases. Carried out so no one noticed.”
HAHAAHAH!!! Priceless!
And yes, I would have thought Liza, Liz, and several other closest friends would have been there. But no! They couldn't be “bothered” to show. Molto strano.
And what ejay5131 says makes us wonder too! The whole thing with the media is weird. Only ONE pic since MJ “died”? Come on, ONE! That's silly considering how many pics they get of everything else related to anyone famous or even a little bit famous.
This whole thing makes me mad that they think they can pull the wool over everyone's eyes. The fans aren't stupid! We have loved him for too long and scrutinized every physical detail about him through the years.
Ok everyone I found a song, It's really Crazy unreleased from Michiael Jackson, It talks about how he's “planning” his escape from the “system” and “pressures” he has to find a place to hide away.(thats what he says in the song) the name of the song is xscape(yes, it's actually spelled that way.
If he faked his death, he's away from the pressures, he has to leave his children behind, if he don't want people to know he's “dead”). If the children is with his family, he will always see them. Latoya said, he didn't want to do the 50 shows, that's probably why it was an impersonator at the O2 conference! It was him rehearsing in the video, if he's planning his get away, he has to cooperate, right? AEG insured for “overdose”? PERCHE '?
This song tells it all. OMG. It is not a old song. He is sining of how he wants to get away from the media, and just want to be in a place where he dosen`t need to hide from everyone. Where he can be himself. He is telling it all in this song. It can be more clear. Michael has “escaped” The pressure. He just wants to be in peace. I wonder whan he made this song, it can`t be that long ago. MY GOD. Mabye he really is alive? I really hope so. I would make me smile again. I guess we just ahve to leave Michael alone. I just hopes that he is happy and in peace.
now this should answer everything something is wrong i think the women of the family are hiding michael he is alive and his brother and father have been using michael for his money jermaine is broke his brother jermaine said that the jackson 5 were goin to have a reunion but in an interview with michael he said he was never going to sing with them again so maybe latoya knows it was her brothers father and AEG in a plot and they are protecting michael right now in hiding till the truth comes out also new news that there is another will from 2007 he wrote a new will every 5 yrs now michael might have it or they do and they are goin to pull it out saying michael wanted his sister rebbie to mother his children and debbie and katherine have agree to keep joe out of the childrens life cause he is now tryin to get costody of the chikdren and he wants to make them the jackson 3 so the ploy thickins
http://www.lipstickalley.com/f227/jackson-family-fallout-exclusive-interview-manager-reveals-rift-over-funeral-192891/
la toya is now saying that there is a big conspiracy behind murder of mj. she is saying that $2 million are missing from his rented home when world believed him to be totally bankrupt.. she is also saying that mj was fed up of taking these drugs which some people were giving to him to keep him submissive. if it was truly there then why the family never protected mj out of all this. why they let him die and are now creating all this fuss and making autopsy over autopsy.
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This is LaToya's biiiiiiiiiiig chance to “shine”, to propel herself into center stage, but most importantly, make some monnnnnnney!
Her credibility equals Zero as she is insincere and phoney. when Michael was accused of Child molestation, it was LaToya who on national US television spoke out in support of the accusers and against her brother, I remember it well, does anybody else at all ? ? Shame shame on you big sista !
LaToya is a diva wanna-be, a sensationalist, an opportunist and extremist. Her only claim to fame is showing her coochie for a few bux to a trashrag like “Playboy Magazine” … and here, she suddenly has turned into and acts like Florence Nightingale ?
These rags she is talking to are paying her a nice dollar for the drama queen act she's just pulled off here, she makes me sick
Sister Janet who worked with Michael on videos is surprisingly hush hush, isn't she ? But then again,Jan had a good run in show business and has money and, all she showed was her nipple at the superbowl half-time show and called it “wardrobe malfunction”. Neither one of them has any lady-like qualities.
The more details emerge, the more ground the 'staged death' gains. These “interviews” are nothing but a mechanism to redirect attention to a new theory they are spinning, Murder … they stop at nothing to create sensationalism and seem to think we are all stupid or something ?
I pray that Michael is safe and secure. What must he be thinking …. ?
I'll tell you what Michaels thinking…True fans can NEVER be fooled!!
ejay, thank you for your reply, I think you are right, great answer
yes maybe michael is still alive. bt i dont think he did this. maybe a threat to him or he was kidnapped to get money? blahblah lol
I wonder if he's reading this???? Maybe scanning the internet to find what people are saying!!!! If so – Hi Michael.
What the heck is this????
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/090713/entertainment/centertainment_us_jackson
Divine Mrs. Jones: that not only the Jacksons and other parties, but MICHAEL HIMSElF might be reading the postings on this website occured to me too just today. I also thing the “staged death” concept is gaining traction around the internet, more and more ppl are blogging on different sites expressing their doubts that Michael “died” …
I am wondering about if anybody is controlling this and will at some point shut websites down who are exclusively dedicated to this hoax, what is your thought on this ?
ejay that was a tv reality show that the men of the family were tryin to start up before his death
or should i say his disaperance
Bloggers: have any of you seen this ? This is a “protocol” type order of occurences synopsis of the events surround Michael Jackon's death, take a look and check it out:
http://michaeljacksonnotdead.wordpress.com/2009/07/12/michael-is-still-alive-death-is-staged-its-a-hoax/#comment-3
Ok, I've read the Escape lyrics and seen the video on Youtube.
Now, seeing as we are all open to speculation and possibility. Try this for size…and remember this is just me voicing an opinion…I have listened to his press conference again at the O2 Arena in London from March this year. The person speaking at the podium did NOT sound like MJ, the voice was too deep for my liking. Now, just suppose for a moment that the “This is it” Tour title is actually relating to the fact that he's had enough and by July he be out and gone. The last time he'd be in London – July – Hummmmm!!!!!
Is he hiding in London? Was the talk at the press conference a metaphor for I'll be back, but you won't know it.
This thought has just sailed through my head…Here goes…If you want to hide a tree you put it in a forest. If you want to hide an apple you put it with other apples. If you want to hide a person you put them with people. OK…Here it is, just suppose that the people you were hiding with had relinquished all worldly goods and chattles…monks!!!! OR even a Amish community. It may sound silly, but if we are going down hoax road then we have to explore every possible avenue that leads from it, whether it seems daft or has a dead end.
As it used to say on the X Files – “The truth is out there”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhK1cKBut_o&feature=related
There is a series of Youtube videos about MJ's home movies. On the first one, at the end, he says he doesn't like to tour because – quote “I go through hell”
Maybe the thought of 50 shows was enough to start the ball rolling for the disappearing act. Not only the mounting debt to deal with, but being pushed by record comapnies etc to do the tour. It must be very hard work – and that's an understatement – to be consistently good, to be as viberant on day 50 as you were on day 1. Not an easy gig.
Hands up who believes in the “after life” No joke. I belong to a ghost hunting group – http://www.theorbwhisperers.com and our resident medium has something to say on the MJ subject. If you want to hear what it is I'll tell you. I do not want to offend anyone, because even I am a sceptic, but I do think I should allow for all possibilities that life – and death – has to offer. I you think that this will offend, I will gladly keep it to myself.
I have just watched a History Channel documentary called Cities of the Underworld, and in this episode it talked about a huge complex of tunnels cris-crossing the underneath of Los Angeles. There was once a subway that ran the length and breadth of LA, but it was closed in the post war period and the “land” was bought up by GM, closing the railways meant that people would have to buy cars…I can seen their point. My point is that maybe they have accessed some of these tunnels whilst building the stadium, and after the so called memorial, have ushered MJ away through them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cities_of_the_Underworld
Look at season 3 “Land of Manson”
You can google LA's underground railways as well.
http://www.reptilianagenda.com/research/r110199k.shtml
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Downtown 's+forgotten+tunnel-a011766237
http://www.westworld.com/~elson/larail/PE/tour.html
http://www.flickr.com/groups/lagroup/discuss/72157611913350533/
You have to allow for the fact that I am trying to come up with every plausible possibility as to how to “magic” someone away. The memorial was the smoke screen.
No, please share! This is a place for our individual opinions and thoughts. So far yours have been so insightful! I can't speak for anyone else on this page, but I would be interested to hear what you have to say.
And I really want to thank you for posting the link to the home movies. I had not seen that! I am going to watch all the segments now. So far I have watched the first and loved it!
As for the O2 conf, I tried to say that was Navi who was up there speaking and someone on here said it's not Navi, that Navi's voice is deeper than Michael's. Now you say you think the person's voice was too deep to be Michael. So you confirmed for me what I thought all along. Navi's voice is deeper, the person on stage has a deeper voice. We don't even need to continue on the physical differences of the two. They are clear to anyone who really looks.
“Mojofi Says:
July 13th, 2009 at 5:23 am
I KNOW that was MJ at the 02 confrence.
Navi has a deeper voice then MJ.”
Yeah, and uh….that's what we are saying….
that the person on stage has a deeper voice than MJ. Hence, why we think it is not MJ but his double.
As far as trying to “magic someone away” I still like the transformer casket turning into a set of luggage to be carried. I still laugh when I get a visual! This whole thing isn't funny, but the way you put it was. LOL!
I will first set out what Dave, our group medium told me. He said that when some one passes suddenly their spirit is in shock and does not realise that they have died. Dave has a “spirit guide” and has asked from time to time whether the guide can tell him if MJ is “in spirit” and, apparently the guide has told him no, not yet. Dave takes this to mean that he is still alive and has not yet passed.
I, on the other hand took a totally different tack, and being the EVP (electronic voice phenomena) queen of the group, I took my voice recorder and simply asked the question….”Is Michael Jackson really dead?” To which I got a quick response, a mans voice saying “No”
If I could find some way to put the voice recording on this site I would post it for you to hear.
Back to Dave for a moment. His spirit guide often helps him move spirits on into the “light” but it cannot find the spirit of MJ.
I am a sceptic, but there are those amongst us who feel that some spiritual comfort is required in times like these, and this is mine through Dave…Cheers Dave.
The “Ghost of Neverland” he says is not MJ…..Too soon, but the house has been standing for many years and has witnessed many families living there. The “ghost” is probably an old one, that has walked the halls and corridors for a long time. OR – my opinion – it's a reflection/shadow from outside. I would love to go with the group and investigate…Get some great EVP's from there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Am67-Sew7k
Yeah, I saw that. It was proven to be a crew person walking around in there and passed in front of a light. If you look through the window and the way the walls are on the outside, you can see there looks to be a room over in that area. It looked to me like the person was walking in that room and happened to pass in front of the window with sunlight shining through and the person's shadow was thrown out into the room. At least, that's what they are saying in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y3jlzS_BZc&feature=related
At about 2 minutes, it is clear and sharp. But I tell you what, I did get chills watching the original part in the first half again. Even after I knew they “debunked” the ghost story. Originally it was not as solid of an image so to speak. It was so transparent you almost don't see it. But when they show how it was not real, the image is more solid. I am a big skeptic as well. Then again, I am not so much a skeptic as I have to see it to believe it but I don't necessarily wanna see it! I am a big chicken so I guess it is easier to say oh, that stuff isn't real than to actually think about how I would react if I saw something paranormal.
I too have had friends who believe in spirit guides and they would totally agree with what both you and Dave are suggesting. These are things we can never truly know.
I just did a little poll on a website about do you think MJ faked his death and is still alive. After you vote you can see the results. Like 88% (or around there) voted yes!! After watching all of the home movie segments, I really hope he is still alive somewhere. He has the cutest personality I have ever seen. And to hear him giggle while watching the movies in his theater, I hope he is somewhere laughing again. The sweetest sound! Anyone who has not watched them really should. My favorite is the first one where he's all excited over the super soakers. Too cute!
Also an awesome part is where he is saying he hates touring and they are telling him they have to redo that part. He is so sweet to watch. I know this isn't the place to discuss the home movies and such, I just wanted to throw that out there. Pace!
Hi Divershay
I take on board everything that you have said, I to think that the home movies are fun to watch.
That was then, we have to concentrate on “the now” That entails all of us putting our collective heads together and coming up with a rational explanation as to where the devil he might be hiding.
On the Channel 4 documentary that I mentioned earlier, one man who knew the Jackson family well said that just before his latest tour “This is it” they had tried to get to Michael to spirit him away to “clean him up” This chap believes that MJ wanted out of the adiction spiral that he was in. His “insiders” who perpetuated the adiction kept the family from him.
The final rehearsal footage shows some strain on MJ's face, that could be because he has been out of the loop for so long, but it could equally be withdrawal symptoms kicking in!!!! To be honest, he looks like he's in pain, he had apparently suffered from back trouble for some years. Channel 4 also interviewed a doctor who specialised in helping “well known” drug addicts. He said that he thinks that MJ was NOT taking heroin, but he was having a medication usually given to patients who they want to keep in a coma. That could explain the theory that MJ IS in a coma and it has been said that he would not come out of it. This would kind of explain the “death” announcement, and the lack of a body.
MJ was not pleased about the fact that the tour had gone from 10 dates to 50. Ironically the dancers assigned to work with him were originally contracted for 2 years. Why so long if the tour was supposed to be ONLY 10 dates????? Makes you think what else the record company machine had up it's sleeve.
Just been looking at the supposed final photo from the ambulance – that photographer has made his annual earnings in one shot – anyway – I saved the picture and set it up so that I could rotate it for a better look.
Now, to me it seems like he is grimacing a little, his eyebrows are not relaxed, they are furrowed slightly just over his nose, the ventialation contraption in his mouth doesn't seem to be in his mouth, he mouth looks closed. The colour of his skin is that of someone who is relatively healthy. I've someone after a heart attack and they look grey/blue and their lips go blue as well. None of it adds up to a victim of a heart attack. Even the make-up that he wore looks fresh. If I were giving CPR to someone wearing make-up I am sure that it would smudge and they for a time would look a bit of a mess. And if they are supposedly giving CPR in the back of the ambulance why is the paramedics hand on his right shoulder and not his heart. And if he is supposed to have “died” at home, why bother giving CPR at all. They were there for about half an hour or so, if they couldn't get him back in that time thay should just have covered the body and taken him out quietly. I thought then, and still think now that it was a ploy to kick start the disappearance.
@ The Divine Mrs Jones – your posts make me happy! I, too, am a strong believer in the paranormal! I wish I was a part of a ghost hunting group, though. I tend to just wander on my own and do my own 'personal' ghost huntings, if you will.
As for MJ – I also believe that if his Family might be reading this website, it's almost quite possible he is reading it as well!
@divershay – I know, MJ is the sweetest person ever, isn't he? he is such a sweet soul, so gentle and fragile! He would never hurt a fly <3
ok take alook at this statement then i found a statement form dr.thome thome
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1615735/20090713/jackson_michael.jhtml
http://www.accesshollywood.com/michael-jackson/michael-jackson-adviser-dr-tohme-tohme-breaks-silence-to-talk-about-his-friend_article_20158
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31740617/ns/entertainment-music/#storyContinued
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31740617/ns/entertainment-music/page/2/now this guy makes me open my eyes on who jackson really was and that ppl were tryin to hurt him
http://www.flipkart.com/fade-black-douglas-b-jones/1436352738-uox3f42f2d is not the cheif that worked for michael?
Dear The Divine Mrs Jones
I really don't know if i should believe in what you say, even thought i truly want to……..
But i go a question,
if he's not dead than why is Latoya always saying that she knows who killed michael?????
if he was still alive wouldn't they simply be quite????? Not pushing too musch atention from the media?
if he was still alive shouldn't his kids by now be with me?
What about those updates where they say michael had needle marks in his neck, how would they make that up????
To bo honest as time goes by my hopes that michael is still alive keeps geting smaller. What proves that he's still alive????
Comunque,
Dear The Divine Mrs. Jones if it's true that you can hear taht voice and that Dave guy can't “see” spirits, i want to ask you one thing:
If he's still alive, is he alright?is he sick?is he safe? is he happy now?
I'm sorry but there's more than what meets the eye. To the administrator thanks for this site. When the imposter was at the press conference, not one time did the family step up and say “that's not Michael.” And don't tell me that the Jackson family doesn't know about all the hoax rumors going on saying that Michaek is alive, and yet still no response? Something isn't right.
And then they have Latoya coming out saying all this stuff about her brother being murdered and that millions dollars and costly jewelry were missing from his home. Now correct me if I'm wrong but how the hell would she know what was missing in his home? Can someone answer that?
Then she said his kids wanted to see their father when he died at the hospital and that his face was covered up with a towel. Ok, unless something changed over the years, someone who dies doesn't get covered until the medical examiner comes in and take the body and asks everyone in the room to leave. And since when they cover your face with a towel.
I agree with who ever said they're glad they Latoya isn't their sister. I feel the same way.
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1615735/20090713/jackson_michael.jhtml
Hope this opens up. Read it and see what you think. The Channel 4 documentary states that MJ did NOT know he was to do 50 gigs until it was too late. The tickets were printed and sold in a flash. AEG jumped on the financial bandwagon and this poor bloke had to turn up, perform and smile like a puppet. Well, it seems that the puppet cut the strings before the puppet masters could dictate the dance. I also think that Joe Jackson is quietly enjoting his new found fame.
Earlier someone mentioned the “Escape” song from the album “Invincible” I have checked out the lyrics and get this, in one line it says – quote -”Don't have a place to run, but there's no need to hide” And in another it says – quote -”Gotta get away (tell my Mother)I gotta get away” Is there a message in there somewhere. MJ's Mother hailed from Alabama I think…maybe there's family there who would take him in?????
In a BBC documentary about 4 years ago MJ was asked, while looking at a replica of an Egyptian sarcophagos that was covered in gold leaf – very elaborate – “Would you like to be buried in one of these” MJ ponders for a moment and answers “I'd like to live forever”
If you take the Peter Pan stories literally, and if you've read them, Peters friend was a girl called Wendy. Wendy grows up and Peter is the perpetual child, remaining in Neverland. He goes back to Wendy's house and is shocked to find that she is a woman, and has a daughter of her own. Peter wants Wendy to be his Mother. He has been searching for his Mother throughout the whole story. Peter returns to take Wendy's granddaughter Margaret back to Neverland to do the spring cleaning…When he remembers!!!!
Maybe the perpetual child that is Mj has returned to Neverland. Maybe the pull of the place that he loved so much was just too great for him to resist.
By the way. If “they” turn Neverland into a place of pilgrimage I will start taking prescription meds…LOL The audacity of it all.
The only good thing about Joe Jackson being on TV is that I can turn him off….LOL AGAIN
That was interresting. More proof that this so called “Death” Of Michael is a hoax
My youngest – Benjamin – the house philosopher – has just said to me “Why don't we give people like him their 'space'” You can only slice a loaf so many times before it runs out. He has a point. We, the “fans” should back down. Although we enjoy what the entertainer is providing us with, there is an aspect of their lives that you really would not swap. He couldn't enjoy being in a crowd without being swamped with well wishers. He couldn't go shopping without about 20 people with him. His kids couldn't go to a regular school because of who he is, imagine how much of that would effect you, and then think of how it effected him. I, personally, would want to run away.
If I found him, I would not tell any one where he was, I'd let him be. Knowing he was OK would be enough for me.
More profound stuff from Benjamin. He's been watching me type this….Got to go to school soon hun! He has just said….Could he be hiding out at Althorp Estate…Princess Dianas family home. He and she had a “relationship” that was based solely on friendship. Their parallel lives could only be understood by them. I have to allow him his say because he thinks outside the box, whixh is what we want. To understand a child, you have to think like one!!!!!! And where does a child supposedly feel safe….HOME…..
Mr/Mrs Administrator… May I ask the question, where abouts in the world are you situated. This time difference is giving me a head ache…You are 8 hours ahead of me. That means, where you are I have already had my job interview….Did I get it? LOL and, here's a thought…If you are 8 hours ahead you can get the lottery numbers for me before they have even been drawn…So whats next Saturday's winning 6 LOL AGAIN
In regard to the headache…sorry but don't think we can help with that…if we could fix it we would
Yes we are ahead of you, but want to keep our location to ourselves if that's ok…trying to keep the nasty non-believers at bay and deter them from banging on the door in the middle of the night with pitchforks and torches (we've had plenty of nasty messages from people such as this already believe me), but in regard to the lottery numbers, I've had enough trouble getting them right myself! Good luck with yours 
MJHD Admin
I can appreciate your need for anomimity. I really CANNOT understand why people would be so nasty to you. If they were followers of MJ and believed the things that he stood for, then this would not be happening to you.
Maybe I am being silly, but you know when you get a gut feeling about someone, and you can't shake it off!!! Well with regards to MJ's “death” it's not sitting right with me. I don't have the empty and hollow feeling I got when my parents died, or when my friend was murdered (her name was Caroline and she was beaten to death by a bus driver, who dumped her body) I knew she had gone before they found her because I felt physically sick….Now, if I am to use this as a guage, then I do firmly believe that he is still living because I don't feel anything like I have felt in the past. No hollow feeling, no sick feeling…..in fact, if I were truly honest, I feel elated…I feel that he is where he wants to be and that the “death” thing was a hoax.
I mentioned in an earlier posting that I had been studying the so called “last photo” of him, he doesn't look ill or dead. No palour, his face looks fairly relaxed, in fact he looks better in the back of the ambulance than I have seen him look recently. Hell, he looked better than I do this morning….I look like death warmed up. LOL….To end with a little black humour, my husbands late Grandmother – Hilda – used to say to us “I'm knocking on deaths door you know” (she was in her 90's) One day I said that he can't have been in because she was still with us, but went on to say 'What colour it was?', she never mentioned it again. Bless you Hilda LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv9lL-Lyu2A&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3sYg8fhNoI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miBfwWHSmb8&NR=1
The lyrics are very “telling” Take a listen…..
http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/07/14/michael-jackson-must-be-saved-from-ghoulish-fans-115875-21517930/
This page may disappear becuse it's today's Daily Mirror. Basically it's saying that MJ's body was kept in Berry Gory's family crypt until the police were satisfied that they had covered all avenues of enquiry. They cannot bury him yet – apparently!!!!! It says that thousands of fans have flocked to the crypt because word has just leaked out about it…..I heard about it last week, just after the so called funeral.
The coffin looks like an oversized jewellery box. It's a bit tacky…The man had more taste than this…..surely. I still think it's a transformer….Decept a coffin – transforms into Posh Spices matching luggage.LOL
OK…I have just watched the footage of the helicopter taking the “body” to a waiting van…
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/showbiz/2009/06/25/von.jackson.body.transport.kabc?iref=videosearch
Dead bodies weigh a ton….no matter how large. they just lifted this one without much effort….were was the rigour mortice???? He should have been as stiff as a board, not flopping around Hummmmmmmmmm!!!!!
It doesn't appear to me to be a dead body on the trolley….way too thin…It's just a shape, not like a dead person at all. Strange stuff, I am more convinced the more I read and look into it that it is a hoax. Some one commented that his new album was going to be called “Resurrection” co-incidence!!!!
That turned out to be a lie. That Gary dude said so himself
Sorry “BelovedMJ” What turned out to be a lie. I've put so many comments on that I am not sure which one you are referring to.
Ok, back to rigor mortis….I am now an expert in the field. Now, depending on temperatures etc Rigor Mortis can set in as early as 10 minutes post mortem, up to about 2 hours…Full Rigor is reached at about 12 hours and it can last around 72 hours, or 3 days. Quoting About.com, they say that “Rapid cooling can inhibit the onset of Rigor Mortis” If my memory serves me well, the day that MJ died it was about 33 degrees – give or take, it was HOT – Rigor would not be inhibited. After death the skeletal muscles contract and are unable to relax, hence the body becoming as stiff as a board, heavy and unable to bend. Now, it's the word BEND that is the magic one. Even if someone moved the body in the helicopter, if they were dead as long as MJ was supposed to be, it could not have been bent, if you watch the footage closely when the body is wheeled over to the van, the two men inside just lift the body from one trolley to another it looks like the body bends at the knees!!! Maybe it's just my imagination, but take a look and see if see what I saw.
My kids watched the helicopter footage earlier and passed this comment. Considering who the body was supposed to be, and considering the whole episode was being filmed, they did not treat the body with any dignity and unceremoniously dumped it from one trolley to another inside the back of the van. Knowing that the eyes of the world would be watching you would have thought that the men involved at this point would have, at the very least, proceeded with a little more reverence.
Mi chiedo? Is this why they keep postponing the custody hearing for his children?
To The Divine Mrs. Jones: Your children are very observant, and you are right,(in my own words
) it does seem as if the men are just dumping and passing along a “rag doll” to each other. It even looks as “the body” when being handed down from the helicopter as if the head bumps onto the gurney?
“It doesn't appear to me to be a dead body on the trolley….way too thin…It's just a shape, not like a dead person at all.” you are right about that! It looks as if they are carrying a stick or something. Now, I think Michael was a thin man but too be as thin as it appeared to have been there? I just don't know!
I also have a friend who states to be able to perceive when someone's spirit has passed along and she like your friend does not feel in any way MJ's spirit to have passed??? I do think that if he is with us, he needs time to get himself together, and get well. I can only imagine all the pressures he must have had, poor soul!
I am not trying to sound crazy or anything but I do think that both Michael and his family need our prayers!!! Dio vi benedica
Michael will come back to us, and face the public when he is READY! That is for sure. But he needs time. I just hope he is at some place recocering, from all the shitty things the media did to him, and all the false alligations. My heart is with Michael. I always believed in him, and NEVER once misunderstood him. I just hope that he will get the spark back in his eyes, wivh he havent had for a very long time, and mabye he will smile again soon. I really hope so. I love him so much
dear Divine Mrs Jones i totally and completly agree with you that,”If I found him, I would not tell any one where he was, I'd let him be. Knowing he was OK would be enough for me” . bcuz even after knowing what mj has been thru and if people still disclose about his whereabouts or pics then they have to be money and publicity hounding wolves.
Non siamo tutti d'accordo non è lui! Date uno sguardo, un vero e proprio bene! Soprattutto a sopracciglia.
24 ore prima:
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Ambulanza foto:
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Guardate la forma di sopracciglia. Il "ambulanza MJ 'ha sopracciglia che andare a destra verso il ponte del suo naso. La "prova MJ" che fine ha sopracciglia molto di più in (vi è un grande divario tra di loro). Le sopracciglia sono anche arco diverso. L'unico modo in grado di soddisfare le sopracciglia più vicino al ponte del naso, se egli è stato "spingendo la sua fronte insieme" come facciamo noi quando sono pazza (non posso pensare al nome descrittivo per questo adesso.)
It's 8.30 in the morning here and I have to get Benjamin to school…The older offspring is sick….It is Benjamins last week at this school and the kids are giving a concert with solo performances. For weeks now (even before MJ's death) he had been practicing drumming to “Beat IT” His final performance, he said is, for MJ. Ahhhh!!! Benjamin is very sensitive and feels things really deeply. He often tells me that he does not believe for one minute that MJ is dead. My kids and I are best friends.
Going back to the “sensitive” theme for a moment…Dave the medium often asks his “spirit guide” about MJ and the guide comes back with a poitive “NO” Not passed yet.
On the forum of this site someone mentioned “remote viewing” which was used by the powers that be during the Cold War under the title “Stargate” It apparently worked. The government used RV because they found out that the Russians were using psychics to find locations of missiles etc. From what I have read it seems that the RV actually worked.
I am a skeptic, but, as I have said before, I am open to all possibilities. I have lost too many family members and friends to think that there is “nothing” on the “other side” Now, the theory behind RV is that you lie comfortably some where clear you mind and wait for things to happen…You begin to see images that, at first, seem hazy, but do become clear after a while…The other thing is that you need…or so it seems…is specific geographic coordinates…that's not too hard. Pick a place you think a person will be, find the coordinates and concentrate on those….again the theory is that you can see what is happening in that place, watch the proceedings as the happen. You can see them but they cannot see you.
The mind is a very powerful tool, we do not fully understand how it works, but if the mind is “energy” then there is no reason to suppose that it cannot be sent elsewhere.
REad this about RV and tell me what you think!!!!Got to go to school now….We're late.
http://www.fas.org/irp/program/collect/stargate.htm
Just been talking star signs in the car on the way to school with Benjamin…Ben is an Aquarius, as is my husband. The older one, Adam is a Virgo and I am a Taurus.
I was trying to explain the characteristics behind each sign to Ben. Aquarians have a thirst for knowledge, Taurians are slow to temper (which he said was not true in my case – hummmm!) And Virgo's were perfectionists…That sums Adam up to a tee.
Now, Ben said if MJ is a Virgo – which he is – then wouldn't he make sure – absolutely – that his “disappearance” would be planned and timed down to the last nano second.
Virgo's make lists, then they make lists of those lists, and so on. They like order and they like to be in control of that order. MJ will have planned and devised his escape down to the last detail.
I think – personal opinion oly folks – that he has said “Right, enoughs enough, I'm off” Despite having numerous people around him I do not think for one minute he trusted them completely and that they only kept quiet decause of water tight contracts that they had to sign. After all, he was their BOSS. He paid their wages, the piper calls the tune so to speak.
Over the years the British Royals have had advisers, suggesting ideas to the reigning monarchs. Ideas for their own ends – I think so. MJ had “advixers” who suggested ideas to MJ. I think that he has said to them that he is going, they can do nothing about it because of the contracts. Were the contracts binding after death, unlikely, because I think MJ thought that he would go on forever, so he wouldn't need to add that into an agreement. Why hasn't someone from the entourage come forward – post death – and spilled the beans about all that they knew…The could make oodles of cash selling the story to the media. It's because he's not dead. They are still contractually bound.
Cibo per il pensiero.
Sorry about the spelling. I am trying to wax lyrical by typing in a small space. It's like Shakespear trying to write a play while sitting in a match box LOL
I have just been washing the breakfast dishes, and while I was doing so I had a profound thought…Not again I hear you cry! LOL
Lets go deep and spiritual for one minute. MJ's very being, his songs and his credo were that people would learn to get along because they have a common bond. They're all human…
I am typing away at my computer everyday, passing on ideas and snippets of information to all who subscribe to this site, I don't know you, you don't know me. That, to us, doesn't matter, we have our common bond – MJ. Whether we are black or white, abled or disabled…that hasn't entered into it, what has, is our regard for the welfare of a “fellow human” who has been through hell to bring us joy, and has had only brief glimspes himeself of that joy that he brought to others.
Thank you MJ for introducing me to some of the nicest, kindest people on the planet.
(Wipes a tear from her eye) I love you all.
VERY TRUE Divine Mrs Jones .INDEED TRUE.
now tmz is coming with another one. it says the two docs( murray and klein) arent coperating with the police deptt though earlier they were. the bodyguards and the driver of mj are saying that when mj used to come out of klein's clinic he used to be in sedated condition. he said he talked to mj about it and mj would deny about the drugged condition. i was reading another site which said that yesterday only a suicide note was found in mj's clothes after 25 days of his death.. i am really not getting whats going out there..
Now then….Another opinion of mine is about to be unveiled….I have just been talking to a lady whose daughter Mara went to junior school with my eldest son, Adam. Four years ago school had closed for the Easter break, and Mara happily played with her friends, right through to the Good Friday. On the Saturday morning her Mother went to wake her to go swimming and found that Mara had died in her sleep. As you can imagine the entire school, children, staff and parents were devastated that someone so young should have passed away. The point I am getting to is coming….The funeral took place about a week later and alot of us attended, it was heart breaking to see such a tiny coffin being attended by her Father and older Brother. I sobbed my heart out…..Mara's Mother told me today that she could not control her overwhelming feeling of inconsolable grief at the funeral and virtually had to be carried into the church. She went on to say that the empty feeling that you get when you lose a child is one that can never be filled. The void it creates is vast and bottomless.
Michael Jacksons Mother must be made of steel…If I were her and one of my babies had died, I do not think that I could be that composed.
When my Mother died I just about held it together, but the emptiness is still there, I do not think that I will ever truly get over her dying.
Were the emotions displayed at the Memorial Service “controlled” or were they the true one's because they knew that MJ was still living….I think that it was the latter.
Benjamin wanted to ask why the youngest boy “Blanket” was carrying a Michael Jackson doll? Odd, carrying an effigy of one's parent!!!!!
He is quite right, I have watched the Memorial Service again, and there it is…white arm gauntlet, socks and all. He went on to add that he would not want a doll of me or his Dad, because – quote – “It would be toooooo creepy Mum”
I have just finished listening to the speech that MJ made in Oxford University in 2001. I think that it's the longest I have ever heard him speak at one time, and because of the audience, he was allowed to speak without interuption – a rare thing I think.
To hear him talk passionately about the plight of “The Child” “Lost Childhood” and his own up bringing was a pleasure.
He came across as well read, intelligent and lucid…Not at all what we are supposed to believe in the 'media' He was absolutely sure about what he was saying and didn't stumble through the speech – a daunting thing for anyone – let alone him.
Hat's off to MJ Well Done!!!!!
Now, listening to him speak there and then going back to the O2 Arena press conference. Can this really be the same person???? Struggling to speak – I know that the crowd were noisy and he couldn't get a word in edgewise, but – and it's a BIG BUT – what happened to the lucidity, what happened to the speech maker. What happened to MJ??????
Penso che lei abbia ragione. I really hope that our sweet Michael is still alive. Infact I am praying to God every night, asking him to keep Michael safe. I just hope he is listening. And i will agree with you on the part, where you are talking about Michael`s mother. I wouldent be ablt to keep myself together if i just lost my baby. NOWAY in hell i could have done that, the way she did it. It seems weird. And i wanna know aswell why Blanket had a doll of his beloved father. Hmmm. Am i sounding nuts here?
Hi there MyBelovedMJ,
I don't think you sound nuts…You, like the rest of us are entitled to your opinion, however far fetched it might sound….Sometimes the most bizarre thoughts and ideas are the ones that bear fruit.
The idea behind this website is to dig, and dig deep into the “strange” events surrounding the supoosed death of MJ….Thank you for the website Mr/Mrs Administrator – Great Job!!!…..We, the fans, have to ask ourselves -Is MJ dead? Do we believe he's dead? The answer is an emphatic NO. No, he didn't die in LA on June 25th. NO, it was not his body being transported by helicopter. NO, there was not a body in the casket at the Memorial. Way too many NO's and not enough YES'S…We must, as a group, keep digging, spying, prying and theorising as to what happened. Who it is that are keeping the secrets of his actual whereabouts, and, if we ever discover the truth, are bound by a deep loyalty, to keep the truth safe.
In other words, if we find him, we keep it to ourselves.
On a personal note. I am the same age as MJ, just 4 months between our birthdays, I'm April 29th and he is Auguat 29th….I have sung and danced to the JAckon 5, the Jacksons and MJ himself. MJ's birthday was on the calander of my friends and I, once mine had elapsed they knew how long they would have to wait until his was here.
I grew up with him, I can follow the path of my life and it's events by the songs he sung…I hear one and say “Yes, that's when Karen and I got thrown off a dance floor for being too physical while dancing, and taking over the whole space” LOL at the memory…must phone Karen and ask if she remembers!!!!
We all share personal moments with MJ, and the thought of him not being there for the duration of OUR lives is unthinkable. It's like losing a member of your family…
Finally….I do believe, most definately that he is still ALIVE and that he has gone into hiding. I'd run away if I couldn't go from A to B without being mobbed. I'd run away if I were being hounded about my life style and behaviour. All MJ ever wanted was the unity of man, to stop man's inhumanity to man and to be himself.
Nuff said…..
Keep searching, leave no stone unturned, no corner un-srutinised, no matter haw many dead ends…let's keep looking…As I said before in a previous posting…Just like the X Files…The truth is out there.
Yeah I said this last week “However, I do NOT think it was really MJ at the press conference. The chin, smile, moves, etc. MJ would not get up there and talk the way this guy did. He sounded like an idiot. MJ was/is very well spoken in front of the camera. Look at any of his interviews.”
This speech at Oxford just proves my point. He sounded educated and practiced. The guy at O2-IDIOT! If that really was MJ then I hate to say it, but I am sorry to be offensive. But I just do not feel it was. No way!
To The Divine missJones. Grazie
. And iI totally agree with you, If people should ever find Michael, keep it to yourself, dont even tell your dog or your cat. Leave him alone, he deserves that. OH GOD, i keep on praying, and have faith. Im sure he is ourthere somewhere. It was a hard day for me yeasterday, as you will see if you look at the 1st page. Thank you again, for giving me my hope back of him beeing alive. I cant imangine my life without him. Who is gonna heal the world if he is gone?
Ciao a tutti,
The latest head I that caught my eye today was that MJ could not have fathered his kids because he had been made sterile by all the beatings he had from Joe Jackson when he was a child!!!!
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2540231/Jackos-dad-beat-him-sterile.html
It strikes me that MJ's success was to impress his Father and to gain his respect. Perhaps thats why he strived to be the best he could…He IS the best he could be!!!!!
Hi there,
Someone elsewhere on this site pointed out that at the Memorial Service the children kept looking up at the roof of the building…Was MJ hiding up there?
Was it a big game that he planned with them and he told them to pretend to be upset, but all he wanted to do was to play a “prank” on everyone. Were they brought into his confidence to that extent…Knowing how loyal kids can be, I can quite believe it. And knowing MJ's passion for practial jokes, I can quite believe it. Did he say to them “I am going to be watching from the roof, so you will know that I'm around and don't be afraid because it's a game”
In the roofs of most large buildings such as theatre's and stadium's, there are gantries and walkways built in for maintenance purposes. Is it possible that they were told that he would be on one of them watching the “joke” play out, and not to worry…Is that who they were looking at?
On last thing…I had a meeting tonight and Dave the medium was there and he had this to say on the “ambulance” picture. Dave is a medic by the way….The aspirator was NOT in his mouth…No way. It didn't even cover the top lip….He should know!!!!
I'm just wondering if this were a murder trying to be covered up it would also take all this time and confusion to cover tracks if someone wanted him dead, Does anyone think this may be a murder?
I'm sorry ya'll but Michael would not pull this kind of thing on all of us. I know it's hard to accept but he doesn't have it in his heart to do something like that, he's really gone..they are just trying to cover up a murder
No, I do not think that he has been “Done in” – a victim of foul play – No, I think that he has been spirited away and the he has had the help of insiders.
And if I had the means, time and backing to look for him, I would start in the last place you would look for him. In other words – the least obvious!!!!!
On a lighter note, perhaps he's run away and joined the circus!!!!! Do you know what people????? That's not as silly as it first sounded….He said he liked slapstick comedy, he like Chaplin because of the pathos and the clown like way he acted….Hummmmmm!!!!!!
When does people stop with saying “Oh he woulden`t put us through this, or his kids” Im getting pretty sic sick of hearing that. Mabye Michael for the 1st time in his life needed to be selfish, and let me just say, that was about time. He needed a break away from all the pressure, and the media. He just wanted a normal life. Im sure that It broke his heart, that he had to do it, but in my opinion, i dont think he had no other choice, I think he really needed to rest. It could have been Michael at the roof upthere in stables center, noone knows, and yes they kept looking up. And do me another favour, stop saying to us that he is dead. Where is the prove?? Do you have any prove?? NOPE! Thats the problem you dont. Im not in denail, trust me. But I have questions like everyone else about this, and when i see the body, or a final prove that he is dead, I will have a completely breakdown, but i will have to learn to live with it, someday. Im sorry, just needed to get this off my chest. Ohh and 1 last thing. There is NOWAY that the family has been able to get Michaels “body” when the otopsy havent shown cause of death, I mean, that there is noway he could have been in that casket at the memoriel. That is all im gonna say
I've been reading all your comments and I am quite impressed by what I have read. I do believe that the person at the press conference was not Michael. It is my strong belief. I have watch about as much footage as possible of him speaking from youtube and videos posted around the web. That person in no way could have been Michael Jackson. He would have had to have had his entire mouth reconstructed, his voice and vocal patterns.
To be honest I believe that person to be a female impersonator. Watch again and watch the hand gesture where the person pushes the glasses up.
Anyway, I think he faked his death. I also think he's died, so I'm torn. But the bigger part of my heart thinks he's alive and sending messages to his fans and leaving clues to this fact. All the stories that have come out in the media are to throw people off. The stories in the beginning came too fast and then they slowed up. They are still coming, but not nearly as fast. However, the song snippet that was released the other day, I think that is a clue. In the song there is a clue. There are some saying this was a plan of Michael's in the making for many years to disappear so if it is, then why not let your fans know you are ok..I think the first clue was at the end of the memorial , I'm not sure exactly what it said but something like “know that I'm alive and ok.. ” or something like that…I agree with the person who posted.. if you see him don't tell anybody and don't acknowledge it's him. let him be. Michael likes disguises too, so it's possible, he could be standing next to you and you wouldn't even know it. Watch some of his home movies on youtube to find out more about his prankster side.
Mskaj:
I hope people will leave him alone if they should ever see him, and like you said, he can stand right next to us, without us even know. Im sure that the sentence: Im alive, an Im here forever. WAS a clear sign from Michael, if he had to fake his dead, Im sure that it broke his heart to to that to us, but the man is intelligent, he would leave us clues. Wich he have EVERYWHERE if you look closely. Michael`s true fans can NEVER bee fooled, he knew that. Watch the children like someone else said, why were they looking up all the time? He could have been there, trust me noone would know if he was. If you look at the memoriel once again, and listening to the song “will you be there” at the end of it, suddenly Michael was talking, you know the words he is saying. It totally freaked me out. But seriously it sounded like he was there. It didnt sound like something caught on tape. Now you can call me nuts, i really don`t care but the text was on the big screen behind the stage. And normally MIchael would said “Through my pain” But at the memoriel he said “Through my PainS” My heart stopped. I have been listening to that song everywhere, and that was the 1st time EVER that word was changed. I know its a small thing, but think about it, why suddenly change it? Another sign mabye? feel free to comment, and call me crazy, it wouldent be the 1st time. But im trying to find out what is going on. And I know for a fact, that if Michael is leaving us clues, its the smalle onces, nobody else would notice.
Im just gonna write something ive just saw, mabye you will understand then, why i keep believing, in tha fact that he might still be alive, and wont rest until i find the truth.
Dreams do come true, if you only wish hard enough.
You can have anything in life, if you will sacrifice everything else for it.
there's no way he would chnge his face.no way.come on now,what could he change on his face to make him not look like MJ?i dont think so.i think he really died.any where he goes he would be recognized.
Hmmmmnn.. Im lovin this site. No other person's death has had so much puzzle as that of MJ's..I mean the fact that his closest of friends were not at his Memorial, no public viewin (4sum1 internationally known like MJ) no final restin place as we speak..the very “emotionless” 911 call??( no panic/ commotion, no background sounds of any1 frantically tryin to save any1's life, d all too perfect curt response..the list goes on). Jus got off a http://www.michaeljacksonsightings.com site where some1 claims to have seen him in the UAE with a middle aged woman n 2 black guys(probably bodyguards) on the 6th of July. Sum of the jacksons have bin seen in the UAE especial Janet n Jermaine..Micheal left the US with a promise neva to return so i wont be at all surprised if he's startin a new life there, n interestinly, AEG is tellin us MJ has well over 200 unreleased songs..how sure are we that he wont be the one releasin these songs in the future?? Ha ha!! this is true life ” THRILLER” n who best can pull it off so well than the master of disguise/thrills himself…Dubai here i come!!
My good gracious LORD!!
if theres any1 that shuldnt be walkin around so carefree is MJ's Dad. Oh LORD, michael really went thru alot from him!!If MJ resurfaces today or in the future, dont think any1 wud prosecute him..hell no?? Wat evidence do U have? Did U see him dead? it could be anybody..did U see him buried?? How, where n wen wuz he buried??? I believe the authorities themselves are confused to sum point thats Y they havent come up with any substantial information yet. They shud get sum1 wit the “Horatio Cane” kick butt investigative attitude or sum1 with “Jack Bauer” interrogative techniques to grill sum truth outta their so called investigation.. With MJ!!..theres definitely neva a dull moment!!
Why on the 911 call didn't the person who called say it was Michael Jackson! Totally agree that the call was emotionless…shame on them! If it was genuine that is.
..2thumbs up to The Divine Mrs Jones..U keep the site rockin with ur in – depth theories..thanks Admin 4givin HOPE where theres none.The time difference calls 4alarm, guess i'l have to google search wat part of the world is 9:30 hours ahead..oh wow!!
IF he faked his death, do not tell me he is running arounf in the streats without disgueses. LOL. The man is intelligent, mabye he will come back or show him to us someday, but i can almost gurentee you that he will not walk the streets as himself these days anyway.
Dear MyBelovedMJ and all of you,
Lets stay focused people.
I know that we do not want to believe him dead, I frankly think that he is alive and kicking. I do not feel in my gut that he has died. Tears of anger and frustration, but not sorrow.
We are all entitled to our thoughts, ideas and opinions – the main reason for us coming together on this site is that we feel, deep down in our hearts, our souls even, that he is still living. Our main objective should be to keep this in mind and scrutinise every shred of news and evidence that comes our way….analyse it and point out discrepencies and log pile it until we have enough to “There you go, he is alive and we can prove it”
I also think that we should all promise eachother, that if, by some miracle, we come across him on our travels. We keep that information secret.
We are a great bunch of people who have come together because of one objective – MJ – “GROUP HUG”!!!!!
What do you say people??????
To Minimalany- Go to youtube. There are videos of Michael Jacksons private home movies of him showing him sitting in a makeup artist's chair getting made over as other people (one as an older white male and one as a young black male with a full beard and mustache) and he goes out and sits in public to watch people. Because if he went out as himself, people won't be themselves. So yes Michael can change the way he looks. I just wanted to point that out.
Not only did Michael's mother put up an excellent show of keeping it together, but she was videotaped at Target on June 26th buying sleeping bags and tents! What the hell is going on here? No one is that family has displayed an appropriate reaction to mj's 'death'. Not one. janet seemed emotional at the BET awards but shamone people! She was still AT the BET awards three days after his death. Wouldnt most of us still be hunkered down with our families and in deep mourning. And those kids at the memorial. No emotion at all. We;ve all been to funerals. Kids cry at funerals. The oldest is 14, old enough to be devastated that his dad is dead. He was the coolest of them all. Looked pretty bored to me.
Okey is this just me, or has anyone else noticed that, many pages are misseing from the web now. Many pages about “Michaels deaath” You know pages like this. They are gone, and some videos from his reherasel, are gone also.. What is happening here?? Someone in the jackson family has to know that we are on this site, talking about Michael, and then informs the rest of the family.. They have to keep remove things, to make it match their stories. Im I makeing any sence? Or am i going crazy here?
I agree about the missing information on many webpages. Stuff I read and saw a couple of weeks ago has disappeared from the net. I am trying to save as much stuff as I can to my computer and am storing it on an external hard drive.
Still no word (from the horses mouth I mean) from his close friends. They are toooooo quiet.
Benjamin suggested that he could be hiding on a yacht. Clever Ben!!!!!!
He had friends in the Middle East, Princes and Sheiks etc. All of them owning what they call “SuperYachts” You can live on one of these monsters for months. He could be happily sailing the 7 seas as we speak. No one would see him because of this, he wouldn't have to hide away. He could be himself for a while, gather his thoughts and plan the next move. Ben, your idea my love has substance to it….. We are all looking at airports etc when we should have perhaps looked at ports and dock areas…..It's a hummmmmmm!!!!!! moment.
Ben thinks outside the box and I do listen to him. His friends often think his is being illogical, but because of his lateral thinking he often has amazing ideas…Love you Ben. Nice one
MJ definitely wont be walkin around undisguised… accordin to the story he had sumtin like a veil on n had to lift it up wen he wuz comin off a boat. If MJ left the US, he definitely wont be usin the airports, so the sea is 1 sure way of gettin to anywhere he wuz goin.
I know sum1 who left England n got to his village, i mean his village by sea n he didnt travel in a ship either..he used yachts n boats, stopped at different ports n countries untill he got to his village which is on the coast. Besides there are pics of Mj dressed traditionally like an Arab with covered veil and all. MJ has left Neverland, his family n fame b4, i dont see Y he wudnt do it again, this time 4 gud..with all the piled up dept n wat wuz mummy Katherine buyin camp beds n tents4?? who is campin where?, not MJ's kids i guess
MJ's disguise is no news..at the memorial, his brother Marlon told a story of MJ bein disguised as an older black man with crooked teeth n Afro hair in a record store buyin piles of CDs but i guess if U know him, U know him..no matter the disguise.
…n come to think of it, elvis presley's daughter wuz said to be cruizin on sea wen the news of Mj's death broke..puttin 2 n 2 together. Who knows??
I think that the boat idea is a good one.
Lisa-Marie Presley enjoying a holiday crusing around would have headed for port and to the sevice. If we are to believe that they parted company on good terms, as he said, they have remained friends, she would have been there for sure. Odd, but some strange logic in there….Lets keep up the good work.
The British tabloids have been busy this week…First they said that MJ could not sire kids because his father had beaten him so badly that it caused damage. NOW, they are saying that he had his sperm frozen…It just gets better and better…
A
The Divine Mrs Jones
Yes I totally agree with you if anyone does find Michael by some miracle, the most important thing is not to tell anyone at all… Although we would all love to know he is alive, we must put Michael first at all times and protect him from those who may want to harm him… He needs to rest and get strong again before he can even think about his next move…
Okey Michale made this song a few years ago. ” A Place with no name” Im almost certain that this is THE main clue. He had purmission to make it from the one who made the song “a horse with no name” I just listen to Mjs song, he wrote the text himself. You should listen to that song. Seriously, if we can find that place with no name, we will find Michael. I have that song in my heard all the time now. If someone should come uo with an idea, of what that place could be, please say so. But lets all do him a favout. Lets not look for him or anything, let him be, it is enough for us, to know thet he is alive. This subject has also been posted in one of the Forums, and i listen to teh song. I feel like his telling us something. And the most spooky part is. It just “Jumped” out of the closet duddenly. Its not on a CD or a Singel, noone really knew about it, until some of it was released on Televesion. Che cosa ne pensi? Where is Michael`s place with no name?
Sorry for my bad spelling again. Im typing to fast. Hope you can read it anyway
Oh damn forgot something here. Someone in teh forum also mentioned, that when the perramedics arrived at the house, they were almost 100% sure that the BODY they took WAS NOT Michael. That can xplain, why they werent in a ruch. Okey, im sounding crazy, but im happy today havent been for a long time. You poeple in here and on teh forum, gave me hope with these informations. I think we will find the truth very soon. Sorry lol
come on,how long he would live like this-hiding and disguised?ppl know him everywhere.there's no way he would do that.i dont think so.plus who's body was for the autopsy if so?
I have just been thinking about the possible irrational behaviour of Mrs Katherine Jackson.
Is it a Mothers way of dealing with grief?
Is it a ruse to keep the press on their toes?
What on earth would a woman of nearly 80 years of age want to go camping for???
A soft warm bed and the comforts of home would be for me at that age, not camping !!!
I have been speaking to a friend of mine, Joe, who is a sea captain and is currently working off the coast of Africa. I asked him about sea fairing yachts and he said…To get from LA to Europe the yacht would more than likely have to sail around the bottom of South America…Not a wise choice because of the reputation of Cape Horn. One of the most trecherous parts of the ocean to sail in a large vessel, let alone a crusing yacht. He went on to say that it would possibly have sailed straight out into the Pacific and to one of the many islands. Stopping off to refuel. MJ could be dropped off at a predetermined point, or they could sail straight on to South East Asia…China, Japan possibly Australia. It is not unheard of the superyachts doing journeys like this. He has often, on his travels, been in radio contact with these kind of boats and he finished by saying that they could easily make that voyage without getting into too much difficulty.
Joe has emailed me back and says that the yacht could transit the Panama Canal, but it would have to book in ADVANCE before it used the canal. If this is the case, then the “trip” has been planned in advance.
http://www.pancanal.com/eng/photo/camera-java.html
The yacht could then sail on to the Atlantic and on to the Uk and Europe. With good whether it would take about 5 days approximately.
One last thought. Who from the MJ entourage is missing? He could not have done this by himself. He would have to travel with the bare minimum – we can assume that other items of clothing etc would be in place at appointed destinations – a passport and a small bag perhaps. He would have to have customs checks. In the UK customs officers are bound to have a confidentiality claus in their contracts. Her Majesties Government and all that. So, if they came across him, they would not be allowed to say. As I say, it's a thought.
Ben just pointed something out. If they are doing tests on MJ's body, why is it taking so long. If the authorities have the body, knowing who it is, you would think that they would have acted a bit quicker, giving closure to the case. Good point Ben.
You would think that they would have pulled out all the stops and gone the extra mile with this one, wouldn't you.
Agatha Christie “vanished” without a trace in the 1920's Check this out. There could be a parallel between that and MJ – just a thought.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/oct/15/books.booksnews
I am not saying that he has lost his memory, but the break down theory is plausible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIb9PFrmCT4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh7zcXOPeHk&feature=related
Take a look at these videos on youtube. It goes back to 2002, but the comments he made were “brave” to say the least. Taking on the establishment is not the easiest thing to do.
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/media/article2028494.ece
Could Sony have something to do with his disappearance? Could financial threats have been made? Nearly half a billion dollars in debt, and this on top would push any man over the edge.
http://www.sonymusic.co.uk/artists/michael_jackson/13730/
Sony now stand to make a fortune with MJ's “death”, it seems that in recent years they have been struggling and the MJ resurgence will in some way make up for that.
Take me to the place without no name.
http://video.aol.co.uk/video-detail/michael-jackson-take-me-to-a-place-whitout-no-name-full/3855448189
Now, does he mean a “PLACE without no name” or does he mean that he would have no name….You can take this both ways. It says “The Place” not a place. Meaning that the location is known. “Without no name” means anonimity.
Che cosa ne pensi?
“Life is beautiful”, MJ said its the greatest gift of all n Oh yeah! its the best gift given to man by God…i dnt see him diein…it puzzles me that the Queen of Talk hasnt really said anything 'bout the King of Pop, not even a visit to the Family…surely; Oprah isnt that heartless.. ?
I wonder if he checks this site out and thinks, “Hey, THEY – ARE – GOOD!!!” Maybe we have hit more positives than negatives.
Chin up everyone, give yourselves a big pat on the back for sticking with it.
Excellent work one and all.
I believe that a morale boost is needed from time to time.
MJ liked practical jokes, leaving clues behind, such an MJ thing to do.
By the way, the original song went – “I've been through the desert on a horse with no name” – is he hiding in a desert somewhere??????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0KKGdb4qUY&feature=PlayList&p=89D02F583A5B8172&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=4
You have to listen to the words – closely. It's sung by a band called America.
Odd choice of song, or maybe not.
Keep digging people.
To The devine MIss Jones!
I have been listening to the song. And you are right about that the clue thing is such a Michael thing to do. Im pretty sure he is reading this site. He knows what we are talking about. His also very proud of us i think, because we look for the facts, and with our hearts, and not believeing the media. I have also been wondering, Michael`s place with no name, is that a place he has, with no name, or is it a place he can be with no name? Hmmm. And one of the most importent things I have been wondering about. How did TMZ get that song? From a souce!! Yeah right, who is that souce? Noone else kneew about Michael makeing that song, It wasent recorded yet, and suddenly I jumps out of nowhere. Hmmmm. I would Like to know who the souce to TMZ is, i dont think they even know themselves. TMZ is a bullshit Television station, Michael could eassily give us clues through them, they would believe anything. Im just saying, everything is possible in this. But In my opinion, we are getting VERY close to know the trtuth. Like Michael would have said. ” The truth will prevail, and im about truth”
So, again I am torn between what I believe. Nothing I read makes sense. All the stories in the media are confusing and baffling. They are as baffling as the man himself. No two stories are the same. I just wanted to point out a couple of things that still make me wonder about whether he is still alive. There was a tribute to Michael in our paper right after he “died” in the New York Daily News. It was about the Apollo Theater and how the Jackson 5 won Amateur night. Well the last paragraph of this article stated that a few days before he died he and his children had “strolled anonymously through the streets of Harlem for a visit.” Now, if he was rehearsing a few days before he died in LA, how could he be strolling through the streets of Harlem? When I first read it, I didn't give it much thought, until after they released the pictures and the video of those final rehearsals at the Staples Center. So someone is lying.
I also have issue with his mother's behavior regarding contesting the adminstrator's of the will. Che non ha senso. Who is giving her legal advice. Why, when it states there is a “no contest” clause in this will, would you even open up this issue and possibly disenherit yourself? I'm not sure I follow. Also, is there an updated will? Are you mounting a legal issue because you are stalling? Same with custody of the children. Is this a stall tactic? I ask for two reasons. Are these stall tactics because he's not really dead, and to actually have any issues of the will and the children be decided in a court of law could bring about real legal charges? Did Michael appoint his longtime trusted friends because he knew they wouldn't really allow this to go forward?
Another point, there is supposedly a security video from the house the morning he died. This tape has disappeared. What is on the tape? Who knew it existed? Who removed it? Also, all the people who worked there were fired. None of these people have spoken out. Janet and 8 moving vans showed up the next day to remove Michael's belongings. But they didn't remove any of the drugs that the police found 2 days later. I don't get that.
I have another questions. Everytime you saw a video of Michael leaving his doctor's office or out in public he was covered from the top of his head to the bottom of his feet almost. Or he was in a wheelchair (mostly in tabloid pictures). But, you would see him at parties uncovered. So how do we know if the person covered up was Michael? Were we being duped? Was the person leaving the doctor's office Michael? There are pictures of Michael at parties, at a lupus fundraiser a few months ago uncovered. Wouldn't he wear his mask out in public?
I agree about the song. I think it means something. I thought that from the beginning. I wasn't sure what it meant. I don't know all the lyrics, but that was my first thought.
Okey, i listen to the song called ” A horse with no name” We all know Michael got the purmission to use the melody from that song right? But he wrote his own words. I got a feeeling, and i got the chills when i heard it. Now im gonna say something, and then feel free to call me what you want its just a feeling. But suddenly i remembered something. Its a small thing, but anyway.
Can Michael be in Saudi Arabia or Barahin? I mean, he lived there for a few years before he want back to teh states. The reason i though of this is because they are sining, og being in a desert, on a horse with no name.. That desert could be one of these places i just mentionned, and the “horse” can be a castle. think about it, Michael knows people there. Am i makeing any sence? I got the chills for some reason, I dunno why
I was thinking about the song again and if there may be some meaning behind it, so if you all could just bear with me for a moment and put on your thinking caps, we may be on to something or at least headed in the right direction.
I started typing into my web browser “place with no name”. Well of course Michael Jackson's name popped up as the search result for several hundred pages. I kept going through them. So I moved on to typing in Bahrain and the meaning behind the name, and cities and towns in the Middle East. Then i went back to “place with no name”. I came up with an interesting article from the Telegraph.uk ( I will post a link to the article). It made me think about the fact that Michael was in Ireland maybe a couple of years ago, maybe not so long ago with Will.i.am recording music. I went to google and checked the distance between Scotland and Ireland and it's about 9 hours I am assuming from the capital of both cities. So I am asking if this could be a clue? So I don't think the idea is that far fetched that the song itself is a clue. as far as this article states about a place with no name.
Read the article and tell me what you think…
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/736455/A-place-with-no-name.html
I'm sorry.. one more thing.. From watching the videos of Michael's concerts from overseas, he did tour through Dublin in Ireland back in 1997. So he would have probably seen some of this countryside I would think.
Now it is….
Ok I am going rewrite everything I just wrote and lost, but I am going to submit it in bits, so please bear with me.
MJ's lyrics
She said don't you worry my friend,
I'll take care,
Take my hand,
I'll take you there.
Oooh! Take me to the place without no name.
Take me to the place without no name.
She said don't you worry my friend,
I'll take care,
Take my hand,
I'll take you there.
Americas lyrics…
On the first part of the journey
I was looking at all the life
There were plants and birds and rocks and things
There was sand and hills and rings
The first thing I met was a fly with a buzz
And the sky with no clouds
The heat was hot and the ground was dry
But the air was full of sound
Ive been through the desert on a horse with no name
It felt good to be out of the rain
In the desert you can remember your name
cause there aint no one for to give you no pain
La, la …
After two days in the desert sun
My skin began to turn red
After three days in the desert fun
I was looking at a river bed
And the story it told of a river that flowed
Made me sad to think it was dead
You see Ive been through the desert on a horse with no name
It felt good to be out of the rain
In the desert you can remember your name
cause there aint no one for to give you no pain
La, la …
After nine days I let the horse run free
cause the desert had turned to sea
There were plants and birds and rocks and things
There was sand and hills and rings
The ocean is a desert with its life underground
And a perfect disguise above
Under the cities lies a heart made of ground
But the humans will give no love
You see Ive been through the desert on a horse with no name
It felt good to be out of the rain
In the desert you can remember your name
cause there aint no one for to give you no pain
Right, now to business.
The desert and yacht theory work for me. Who looks twice at the crew of a boat…Everyone stares in awe at the glamorous airline pilot. Air travellers are watched, but the crew of a boat….swabbing decks, not glamorous. He could have sneaked off a boat disguised as a crewman with out anyone giving him a second glance. Grow a beard, rough looking clothes…Whose going to pay attention.
I am on a roller here.
Now, the song. MJ's version….strange from the man who likes to tell stories with his music, sending out messages was his stock in trade. Messages about war, povety, cruelty and mans inhumanity to man. The MJ version is about 5 lines long and is repetetive. Have another listen and look at the lyrics I transcribed. WHO is the SHE who will hold his hand??? And who is the SHE who will take him THERE????
All his songs have messages, there is no reason th think that this does not, because it repeats itself is possibly meaning, I am going to tell you and tell you until you get the message.
Yeah you are right, he is singing that. Who is that women?? Chi?
I think the women is LIzz Taylor
Hi MyBelovedMJ and everyone,
Greetings from a wet, rainy and miserable North Wales…..I won't the whether deter me. I shall press on regardless.
Someone on this site mentioned that Liz Taylor had her bags packed ready to go to London to see Michael in concert at the O2 Arena. She said that she had been ready 3 weeks before the concert dates….What on earth for? Does she pack that much that it takes 3 weeks to get ready. Her Twittering back and forth with the doctor about a painting, a Matisse I think….Very expensive and a much sort after artist….Get it.
Lets be hyperthetical for one moment….Here goes.
Mj decides he wants out….This is too much for him.
It is something he has planned in the back of his mind for the last few years…Because of having kids, he wants them to be normal…As normal as humanly possible, having a father like him.
He trusts Liz Taylor absolutely….He tells her everything. All his plans and ideas.
Liz Taylor gets the ball rolling, using a series of codes to MJ's doctor about a painting.
The painting refers to MJ.
Transportation is arranged, a yacht and finally some road vehicle….Not a plane. Too obvious.
Mj is spirited away either the night before or the morning of the supposed heart attack….One of MJ's doctors disappears aslo.
Doctors, as we all know, are bound by the Hypocratic oath and part of that states that they “Have to preserve life” They are also bound by patient confidentiality!!!!
The doctor gets MJ from the house, perhaps disguised as a nurse or a staff member.
They go in an un-assuming vehicle to the port where everything is ready. Get on board ship and wait for 48/72 hours.
While we are concentrating on the media stories, fans flocking to Neverland, the house in LA and any other MJ related place, they will not ne at the harbour.
The boat quietly slips away and sails down the coast, through the Panama Canal and out into the Caribbean Sea.
It only takes a few days to get to the UK. Slipping off the boat as a crew man, he could have gone in a car to a safe location for a few days.
Now, the next part. If he were going back to the Middle East he could have gone on one of the many private jets that the Arab Princes have dotted all over the world.
Or, the boat has continued on to Europe or through to the Mediterranean Sea and docked in somewhere close to where he needs to be, jump in a car – again dressed like a crew member. Bingo!!!! The plan has worked.
Michael, if you can read this…..Do you know what!!!!
You are an OK guy.
You were pushed up the mountain, not time to admire the view. You were left on the top to fend for yourself. Now, enjoy the “stroll” down the other side. Take in the views and breath the fresh air. Enjoy the life you deserve.
Find some inner peace.
A policeman friend of mine once said “If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's a duck” I said “If it's a parrot trained to quack like a duck, and act like a duck, is it a parrot or a duck”
What I mean to say is this…If we are told something often enough, we start to believe it.
Sceneario!!!!!
Ladies and gentlemen may I introduce Mr Michael Jackson – The crowd pushes and shoves – they cheer – the room is full of noise. Camera flashes are going off. The “man” is trying to speak. The crowd is now part of the mass hysteria and frenzy caused by the appearance of the superstar.
Now, remember what I said about the parrot.
The crowd are so blinded by the ferver of the moment that they can't see the wood for the trees. They are told it's MJ when it could be Nigel, an IT expert from Nottingham who has been primed, coached and trained to replace Mj for events such as this.
We have to stay focused and grounded. There are so many smoke screens that we have to wade through that the going is hard. But we can do it people.
I love this site!!!!!!
I think that we have all made friends here, thanks Admin!!! You have attracted a real nice bunch of people. Well done!!!!
http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/celebrity/Michael+Jackson-10518.html
http://www.prlog.org/10280371-was-working-with-star-on-africa-gig-says-irish-surgeon.html
http://www.maximum-jackson.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=9590
I'm all Googled out
Take a look at these.
Hi MyBeloved and The Divine Mrs Jones-
Remember that MJ's version that was released to the public was just the chorus of the song. So there has to be more. Someone looped it over and over. It was reported that it was a “snippet” of the song. Which to me sounds like a clue. So keep digging for the rest of the clues.
Just found this on MJ's fanclub website: http://www.mjfanclub.net
(21-7-2009) The body of Michael Jackson is temporarily interred in a basement at Forest Lawn Memorial Park and Mortuary in Los Angeles (USA). His family is reportedly still agonizing over the decision of where he will finally be laid to rest.
A source close to the family says: “They [still] haven't decided,” but adds that the entertainer's family might be one step closer to an agreement.
Katherine Jackson had previously objected to making Neverland Valley Ranch Michael's final resting place because “She thinks it's a place of horrible memories. She says that Michael wouldn't want to be there.” However, she has since softened her opinion, according to the source.
“Katherine is still opposed to Michael being buried at Neverland, but would relent if it could be arranged for Michael's children to gain ownership of the property. If they could have complete ownership, Katherine would approve.”
How this may play out continues to be seen as there is currently a majority state in the property held by private investors. The source cites that there could be possible income should Neverland become like Graceland, the Memphis home of Elvis Presley.
wow!
Quite right about the song being only a snippet……If that is the chorus line, then we can speculate as to the rest of it.
Now with an Ireland theme going on….Try this for size
http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/celebrity/Michael+Jackson-10518.html
http://www.prlog.org/10280371-was-working-with-star-on-africa-gig-says-irish-surgeon.html
http://www.maximum-jackson.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=9590
Another test…Too many kids using up my broadband
http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/celebrity/Michael+Jackson-10518.html
Read this
http://www.prlog.org/10280371-was-working-with-star-on-africa-gig-says-irish-surgeon.html
Now read this
Sum of my friends n I were talkin 'bout the stunts Mj had pulled in the past n we all laughed to our heart's content, the mere thought that he cud be sumwhere watchin these events unfold made us laugh even harder…Phew!! He takes my breath away!!
Now read this – I had to copy and paste.
I was working with star on Africa gig says Irish surgeon
The Irish cosmetic surgeon who counted Michael Jackson as a close friend has revealed the star planned to hold a major charity concert in Africa.
PRLog (Press Release) – Jul 12, 2009 – Plastic surgeon to the stars Patrick Treacy, who was a friend of the pop idol for many years, paid tribute to the late star.
And he revealed that his friend had cared deeply about the plight of others, despite his misunderstood and lonely life.
He said: “Michael was largely misunderstood by the world.
“He was the perfect embodiment of the rags-to-riches story, where celebrity took him from gifted musical child to global superstar.
“Unfortunately, it also took him to another place of loneliness, continual lawsuits and being surrounded by problems like failed plastic surgery.”
The founder of Ailesbury Clinic had only recently enlisted Jackson's help in raising aid for African orphans and the pair were planning a concert.
Empatia
He said: “We talked many times about the problems of the world, and like myself he had a close empathy with Africa and the problems of that continent.
“In many ways there was a similarity between them, both resourceful yet impoverished, both exploited by the unsympathetic greed of the white man, both at times facing into an abyss largely beyond their making.”
The pair had planned to hold a concert to highlight the problem and raise badly needed money for medical treatment.
He said: “Michael promised to bring me back down to Africa and had found a large place to do a concert in Rwanda, and in doing so try to heal some of the problems of HIV and the other horrendous diseases, which ravished that beautiful land.
“I felt his gentle words and tender smile were in some way also helping himself.
“Michael promised me at the time that he would fly me over on his private plane to meet Nelson Mandela, whose son would have been doing the organising on the ground.
“It could have been fantastic if it had come off.”
Patrick first got to know the American star after he returned from years of working in war-torn areas around the world and set up his cosmetic surgery clinic in Dublin.
He soon developed a reputation for pioneering medical techniques and soon attracted star clients, including Jackson.
He said: “I see a lot of celebrities and I do know half of Hollywood, but as a doctor it wouldn't be right to talk about my patients.”
This summer will see the Ailesbury Clinic going global with a rollout of 24 clinics in destinations as diverse as New York, London and Moscow.
- Tom Prendeville
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http://www.maximum-jackson.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=9590
Now read this comment on a forum I found.
Do you think that a previous comment about the place with no name could be Ireland.?????
I remember bawlin my eyes out throughout the memorial, i cudnt even talk 'bout MJ without bein emotional 4days. im not surprised to see this Pics of Blanket with tears in his eyes, Yes he cried, but it might be becuz he misses his dad not becuz his dad is dead. More interestin is this report that Blanket thinks his Dad is on Holiday, didnt Jermaine n Latoya say that a therapist advised that the Kids should see their Father n they did see him after he wuz pronounced dead. Why wud Blanket think the same Dad is on Holiday after bein told hes dead.. maybe we shud ask Blanket..lol
Was Mj planning more surgery with the good Irish doctor? Had the doctor told him stories about Ireland and Irish folk tales?
Why would he be in County Cork on “personal business”? House hunting eh!!!!!
A bolt hole more like. A place where he can be himself and liaise with the doctor maybe. I suspect that the locals would close ranks and not divulge whether he had a place there or not.
In part of the “Living with Michael Jackson” interview with Martin Bashir they were shopping in Las Vegas. Bashir commented that he had no room in Neverland for all the stuff he was buying and MJ answered that it was for his other home??????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZdBNtC5iUA&feature=related
It's at about 5.50 minutes in.
I made up my mind that Mj wuz alive after seein that NAVI guy on TV at the 02 memorial in London, i wuz so shocked that i sat up immediately from the couch i wuz layin on. Men!! that guy cud pass 4 MJ anytime at anywhere.
Jermaine wuz caught off guard n made it more obvious by referin to MJ in the present tense in his early interviews with Larry King, Janet even pushed it further by sayin “to U Michael IS a star, to us HE IS family” at the BET awards…more interestinly is paris sayin “i jus want to say, i LOVE him so much”..shudnt she have said “i loved him so much”?? C'mon, these ppl are homeschooled.. dont tell me they dont know the application of these words.
….ni dont think MJ wud leave clues or traces jus yet, i mean they have not even buried his supposed “corpse” na lot of ppl who know him have said hes more intelligent than we think he is. Who knows?? He might be on this site readin wat his Fans think 'bout.
Mskajd. I found more clues.
That thingy you linked Paranoidozzy, I believe its bullshit.
How can you not know where to burry your baby?
I still dont believe he is dead. Just funny the fanclub is writing that, they seems to be the only ones who know where Michels body is. Hes family dosent even know lol
Lest i 4get, ADMIN U did a great job on the site…Keep it up. 2 thumbs up!!
Whoeva paraded as MJ since '06 did a gud job…
Hey, you guys made me remember a video on youtube of Will.i.am and Michael! Will.i.am was talking to access Hollywood or somebody and Michael was sitting right there in Ireland talking about “putting a jolt back into the music industry.” I'm at work, and can't really go find it right now, so I will have to do that later from home, but it was a really good interview. They were collaborating on something. Oh, wow! Getting good! While the drama in the US plays out about lawyers, and wills and autopsies.. ecc
Hey guys have you seen this linke?
I would lean more towards either Ireland or Scotland. There are some articles about Ireland out there from 2006 and 2007. Michael was trying to buy a home in Ireland back in 2007. Also the link from the Martin Brashir youtube video is correct that he made that statement he was buying antiques for his other home (he had already moved out of Neverland). He had a desire to purchase a castle in Ireland and always wanted to live there.
My story link was about a place in Scotland that at certain times of the year you can name the area because it has no name, so I didn't think I was quite that far off, maybe by about 8 hours. But I did remember that he had been in Ireland with Will.i.am. recording. The video is on youtube about them discussing putting a “jolt back into the music industry”. Haven't seen the jolt yet.
Hi Guys just you let you know Mike will be on ITV 1 on SUNDAY at 8P.M. UK Time.
Just in case you wanted to see it. Am yet to read more here and contribute but in the main time i thought i'lllet you guys know about this TV documentary.
Grazie. Love you all and Mike of'cos
Anyone notice how natural a death the “death” of Michael Jackson hysteria died ??? All we are getting is teaspoon bite sized pieces of “legalities” … “Filler-in” media trick …
Joe Jackson's appearance with this “mouthpiece/frontman” on Larry King Live on CNN was a dog and pony show … although I am totally convinced that Larry King knew what he was up against in a hurry, Larry has been in the business way too long so as to not notice that he was being royally had by these 2 clowns who in all probabiliy crawled back under their respective rocks they live under …
What comforts me is this:
** Michael escaped the trenches of all that burdened him and the more time that elapses since his “death” on 6/25, the more his escape cements itself as TRUE … BE SAFE Michael
and enjoy life
** Joe Jackson is a primitive creature, substandard lying sack of s**t and will milk this “my-son-died” story until the cows come home and drop dead – BUT: ONE day he WILL find himself before the Judge of Judges where – after stearnly being told “Ok Joe, I am listening… talk” – there is NO escape and the very deamons who've controlled him all his life will be at the ready to escort him to this place: http://www.flairfordesign.com/hell.html where at best, there it NO air/conditioning ….
What is everbody else thinking at this point ?
There's that Ireland theme again!!!!!
I saw the youtube video about the meeting with Will.i.am and Mj….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__qpG0Wg-WI
Recording in Ireland, WHY Ireland!!! There are hundreds of studios in the states, why fly all that way to just hear how Will.i.am is proposing musically??????
You can tell it's nearly 2 am, I'm typing like a twit.
Now Ireland and the County Cork lead.
I am doing my family tree…I have traced my ancestors through my fathers side of the family back to c1550 Bedfordshire, England. My great grandmother Sarah Ellen Lawrence, was (before she married my great grandfather Frederick), Sarah Ellen Rooney from County Cork in Ireland. I have been longing to go and visit the place to see where she came from, visit grave yards etc, and trace my Irish ancestry through her line…Do you get where I'm going with this????
I could kill 2 birds with 1 stone and do a reccie of the place, ask questions etc. Once the locals realise I'm one of them, they may open up to me…..
How true this is I do not know.. ET Online is reporting that the “drugs that killed Michael” are being traced to Las Vegas.. Dr. Murray had a practice in Vegas. Joe Jackson lives in Vegas. Coincidenza?
hmmm ...
Anyway…this link is to ET online, and the picture on the front page is about the concert that AEG bought the rights to for the rehearsals to air sometime in October. I just wanted to point out that I think Michael looked really, reallly, really HOT in those gold pants : )
http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/07/76651/index.html
Back to my boat theory for one moment….If MJ travelled from the US by boat, he could easily slip off the thing in Ireland. Not going to the Middle East as we first thought. This idea just gets more plausible the more I think about it.
MsKadiJ, Hi …..Hi Everyone.
I have just read the articles that you posted about the Las Vagas connection……Joe Jacksons full of the brown stuff.
On a recent Channel 4 documentry about MJ's final days the interviewer spoke to several people who knew MJ well and were concerned that the unscrupulous members of the MJ “camp” were manipulating MJ and had taken over his life. They also said that there were those who tried to get MJ off the pain killers….Even that MJ himself wanted off them.. One man said that MJ did NOT know he was to do more thab 10 concerts….It was the elements behind the scenes that pushed it up to 30+ and then 50. I think that this was his que to get out.
Apparently Joe Jackson doesn't even know where MJ's body is!!!!!!!!!
“Doh!!! Where did I leave that boy”??????? LOL
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“I've lost something. Hang on a minute,,,,,,, got my keys, got my wallet…No, there's something else. Turned the srove off, put the cat out, put the garbage out. Got my coat….Still missing something…No, it's gone, can't remember. WAIT…Now I've got it….My production company paperwork. Thank God I remembered the important stuff?”
Sorry about that…But I have to see the funny side, otherwise I'd go nuts. And we must maintain a sense of humour.
Keep Smiling:)
The British TV show on Sunday is an interview with Uri Geller. Geller and MJ parted company after the Living with Michael Jackson fiasco of an interview.
Geller had suggested Bashir as the one to run with because he had interviewed Princess Diana in 1995. Bashir is jinxed…It seems that everyone he interviews who is in the public gaze dies within a few years.
Geller and MJ were not friends in the end, and MJ did not return phone calls to Geller. I honestly think that Geller has jumped on the financial band wagon by “sharing” his memories of Mj and apparently introducing previously unseen photos etc.
It is thought that Geller got paid for introducing Bashir to MJ…I can believe it as well. Geller, along with alot of the others is taking advantage of Jackson fever and is lining his pockets.
I went back to look at the video again with Will.i.am. Even though it was a couple of years ago. It seems rather odd now, but what was the jolt they were talking about? They guy interviewing them asked Michael about remixing Thriller and at that point, he had not decided to remix it, but it has been remixed now. So what was the jolt. Will.i.am said “what better person to put a jolt or inspire or aspire the young people today than the man who started all of this than the King of Pop himself.” What were they planning? Or what is going on right now the jolt? Something I have noticed is that since June 25th, a lot of people have gone nostalgice, including myself. We have revisited something we have forgotten as far as music is concerned. I know listening to Michael's music has made me remember what a great humanitarian he is. His music makes me want to go out and save the world, to get involved. All of his music in the later years were teaching us about lending a hand to one another and taking a look at ourselves. Music that reached down deep into your soul and made you stand up and take notice of your surroundings.
His song Cry on his invincible album has lyrics that he says “I can change the world, I can't do it by myself.” We have totally missed the point. I mean today's music is all about getting with this person and doing this to that person nothing with substance to it.
Che cosa è successo? Most songs all sound the same today. Where is the originaliity in music and artist today? Maybe that's the jolt. Non lo so.
Maybe The Divine Mrs Jones can kill those 2 birds with 1 stone.
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