Michael Jackson Moartea Hoax Dovada mounts
În ultimele zile, mai multe noi progrese au ieşit la lumină în favoarea teoriei că Michael Jackson are în scenă propria moarte şi a tras de pe cea mai mare Hoax de secol. Pe măsură ce ne sunt deja la curent, de mai multe neconcordanţe din jurul lui "moarte" au deschis ochii asupra faptului că noi nu sunt de-a spus toată povestea.
Noi credem că, dacă el a fost cu adevărat mort, atunci el ar fi fost pur şi simplu o deschide şi închide cazul. De exemplu: Michael Jackson a fost descoperit de a fi trecut la domiciliu de la stop cardiac, a fost numit de urgenţă 911, a fost preluat de către paramedicii şi apoi cu tristeţe, pronunţată mort. Cu toate acestea, după cum ştim cu toţii, nu a fost deschisă şi închisă caz şi au fost mult prea multe "ciudat" happenings inexplicabilă şi evenimentele care au avut loc în ziua în care a murit.
Noi am spus că el a fost dat un patru oră medicale, care a trecut, cu scopul de a merge mai departe cu concerte O2 din Londra. De asemenea, am auzit că la noapte înainte de moartea sa, el a fost plin de energie, puse pe o uimitoare performanţă repetiţie (care tocmai s-a întâmplat să fie înregistrate video ... ce coincidenta) si apoi s-a întâmplat să mori de un atac de cord în ziua următoare.
Am auzit de ciudat poveşti despre "medic", care se presupune că injectat cantaretul Demerol cu o jumătate de oră înainte de a prăbuşit, s-a întâmplat cu "Găseşte-l pe pat", nu a apela 911 până la o jumătate de oră, după moartea sa, a refuzat să sa semneze certificatul de deces şi care a dispărut după momente de ambulanţă a avut Jackson la spital.
Am văzut pe picior de Michael Jackson şedinţei până la plimbare cu elicopterul la morgă, nici o îndoială, a mulţumit tuturor pentru punerea pe o astfel de mare "act", apoi spune "Voi fi pe acum", aşa cum a fost tractoarelor în morgă , apoi el şi deghizată iesit uşa din spate.
Acum, se pare, chiar şi mai multe lucruri ciudate au loc, pe care locul nostru Hoax teoria ca fiind foarte posibil. Să ne parts câteva puncte:
- Michael Jackson şi Deborah Rowe în timpul căsătoriei lor în 1996.
Acesta a fost anunţat de către Deborah Rowe, ex-soţia lui Michael Jackson, care mai târziu de star nu este tatal biologic al lor doi copii. Deborah "Debbie" Rowe, mama a Prince, 12, şi la Paris, 11, a vorbit de ea "simulată de căsătorie" pentru a Jackson, în prima sa publice interviu cu tabloidul britanic News ziar din lume.
Rowe, care au căsătorit Jackson la Sheraton Hotel Sydney în noiembrie 1996, a declarat ca a fost artificial inseminated de un donator anonim şi likened se la una din cele de rasă Mares ea acum ţine pe ea California fermei.
"Am fost doar navei. Nu a fost Michael a spermei ", a spus Rowe Stiri din lume. "Am plătit pentru el, şi m-am mutat pe. Ştiu că nu vor mai vedea copiii mei din nou. "Rowe a arătat ea şi Thriller cantareata nu a avut sex şi nu au un pat în timpul lor de trei ani de căsătorie, care descrie ca o uniune numai de prietenie.
Rowe reportedly then gave away her parental rights to the children in exchange for a $US 8.4 Million payout over nine years. Rowe spus lor a fost o pusca nunta. "El a vrut să pretinzi că am avut o familie." Ea a fost de 37 şi gravide şi el a fost 38.
Cu acest admiterea de Debbie Rowe, ea pune la restul tot de la skeptics care sunt susţinând că Michael Jackson "n-ar etapă propria moarte, pentru că el nu ar vrea să plece copiii lui".
De ce nu ar fi el, atunci când acestea nu sunt chiar lui?
În al doilea rând, avem de comportamente bizare de tatăl lui Michael Jackson, Joe Jackson. A fost citat pe E! Online că, "În acest moment, Joe Jackson ştie mai multe despre propriul său proiect înregistra decât fiul său înmormântarea planuri". Foarte deranjante.
- Tatăl lui Michael Jackson Joe Jackson şi Al Sharpton recent la o Conferinta de presa
La BET Awards in Los Angeles câteva nopţi în urmă, CNN's Lemon Nu a încercat să interviu Joe Jackson despre moartea fiului său. Jackson a răspuns la întrebările cu Lemon bruscă, detasat de raspunsuri, a trecut la microfon pentru a purtător de cuvânt al lui şi avocat, şi apoi sa promovat casele de discuri.
Jackson răspunsurile au fost ciudat previn din capul locului: Lemon întreabă-l cum face el, şi răspunde Jackson, "mare, Ma descurc destul de bine," ceea ce pare ciudat ca un lucru de spus, după una tocmai a pierdut un fiul lui. Apoi, switch-uri de unelte şi spune, "A fost foarte greu. Amintiţi-vă, ne-am pierdut cel mai mare star din lume. "Care, de asemenea, pare ciudat, după cum se pare destul de detasat ca o modalitate de a frazare lucruri.
Nu Lemon apoi întreabă cum Janet Jackson şi cu restul familiei sunt antablament cu stiri de moartea lui Michael Jackson şi Joe răspunsul este acest lucru,
"Acestea sunt toate bine, dar vreau să fac această declaraţie ... aceasta este o declaraţie foarte bine aici, Marshall şi eu un record propria companie numita Ranch Records", şi arată mare entuziasm ca el a prize de discuri.
Fie că este doar o foame de bani sau de inimă bastardule el este atât de format şi de griji, pentru că ştie că fiul său Michael este, de fapt, încă în viaţă. Sau poate este atât!
În al treilea rând, rapoarte care au fost făcute în luna aprilie a acestui an a declarat că o licitaţie a fost planificată să vândă mai multe possesions aparţinând Michael Jackson, care au fost în afară de la Neverland Ranch Estate.
Elemente, cum ar fi amusements, o comandă a unor trase de cai-transportul, antic de automobile replici, premii de renume internaţional, jocuri arcade, costume de concert, Disneyana, statuar de gradina, mobilier, de real (şi destul de) grandioase porti de intrare la Neverland si Jackson iconic al alb - mănuşă cu bijuterii.
O parte a profitului din această licitaţie s-au spus să meargă la MusiCares, o organizatie caritabila de înregistrarea Academiei, totuşi, cea mai mare parte a fondurilor a fost spus să meargă direct în buzunarul de la Regele Pop însuşi. Aceasta licitatie a fost apoi anulate de către Jackson după concerte O2 din Londra vândut. Se pare că Michael Jackson a gasit un alt mod de a genera niste bani pentru tranziţie într-o nouă Media Free Life.
Cu o viata pe care a susţinut Depresie, folosit pe scară largă calmarea durerilor, datorii estimate a fi in arena, de US $ 400 milioane, fiind constant hounded de fani şi de mass-media, şi de presiunea de a livra pe 50 spectaculoase concerte la varsta de 50 de ani, de ce nu te-ar lua în considerare posibilitatea de a preface propria moarte pentru a vă bucura de o viata linistita pe o insulă undeva cu nimic sa-ti faci griji?
Am remarcat aici că cei care nu sunt credincioşi sunt menţinerea că Michael Jackson ar mai fi in stare sa-asta, ca el este prea recunoscute, sau n-ar face-o pentru fanii lui, dar ne-o dorim să spun Trezeste-te oameni.
Dacă nu a existat vreodată pe cineva de pe fata planetei, care ar fi mijloacele de a scoate un deces Hoax cu acces la o multime de bani ascuns departe în larg, de transport şi de oriunde, ori de câte ori a vrut sa plece, de personal, care ar face orice pentru el, şi Motivul pentru a dori să părăsească lui de o viata de circ ... e cu siguranta Michael Jackson.
El poate fi acum "mort" pentru noi toţi, dar el este absolut fizic in viata .... undeva.
La fel de mult ca vreau să cred că este încă în viaţă, există un singur lucru mă deranjează thats .. De ce ar fi de familie pune pe corpul său public dacă el a fost încă în viaţă. mor greu fani Poate ar fi posibilitatea de a vedea dacă este adevărat, nu a fost el, dar o lookalike. ar fi ele, nu?
Bine spus.
Teoria mea personală este că Michael Jackson este în viaţă şi Eliminarea, dar nu le ascunde cu "Tupac şi Elvis".
Michael Jackson face acest fel de rahat, incepand zvonuri de dormit într-o cameră de hyperbaric şi de cumpărare a rămâne de elefant om. Este tot o faţadă.
Nu. Cred că unele memorial concert la O2 va apărea şi Michael va arăta el, du-te cu privire la spectacol, şi se prezinte ca cel mai mare geniu al-le pe toate.
Cine poate mai mult de perspectiva unui revenire ar fi el, atunci când se întoarce de la "mort"?
Nici unul. Oamenii ar fi supărat, în mod inevitabil, dar ar fi cea mai mare.
Ca un bilet titularul mine, cu toate acestea, s-ar putea să fie doar fiind plin de speranţă.
Cine stie ...
Tine-te bine pe site-ul.
Jackson de familie tocmai a anunţat că nu va fi nici o publice de vizionare în ferma Neverland raportat ca mai devreme, astfel încât nu există o mică speranţă acolo, va exista poate fi un memorial publice din LA, probabil, şi nu sunt destul de sigur ce înseamnă. Va exista o vizionare sau nu ..? dacă nu există ceva ciudat despre toate astea?!
Michael fratele lui Jermaine a spus că a văzut pe Michael corpul la spital, şi că el însuşi, a avut loc, deoarece Michael a fost încă în viaţă, că spiritul lui a fost încă aici şi corpul său a fost doar o coajă .. sa sune un pic ciudat la mine .. Poate este doar eu .. : S
i cu adevărat belieive el este în viaţă ... haide înviere tur??? el este în viaţă!
de fapt, că Debbie Rowe interviu a fost dovedit a fi un fals. Ea a vorbit cu Radaronline adevărul despre ceea ce a fost, de asemenea, ea a spus în urmă cu câţiva ani că acestea sunt Michael Jackson e biologice copii.
http://momsword.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2085:those-are-michael-jacksons-biological-kids&catid=1:latest-reviews&Itemid=50
nu cred că el este în viaţă? Există o şansă. Şi dacă în scenă la moartea sa şi-a întors de la concert, ar fi minunat ... dar nu cred că el este. tristeţe
şi de fapt am întâlnit în persoană înainte. RIP MJ. Îmi doresc şi sper mă înşel.
Mi-ar plăcea nimic mai mult decât pentru ca aceasta să fie fapt. Am iubit pe Michael Jackson pentru atâta timp cât îmi amintesc şi-au simtit ca mi-am pierdut un rol foarte important membru al familiei mele de când am auzit la stiri.
Am marcată pe site-ul dvs. aici pentru ca eu sunt foarte nerăbdători să urmaţi-vă gândurile pe aceasta în următoarele săptămâni, va face bine puncte aici.
Vrut doar să adăugaţi mea doi cenţi;
Am auzit la radio în această dimineaţă că membrii de familie s-au oferit să merg la Londra şi acoperă datele sale de concert pentru fani. Nu ar fi incredibil daca la primul concert de unul dintre ei a ieşit să cânte Billie Jean ca un tribut adus lui Michael şi în timpul ei cântând cântecul Michael vine moonwalking pe scenă, în viaţă şi de bine.
Mi-ar fi atât de fericit.
Sper şi doresc acest lucru pentru a fi adevărat, că el a prefacut moartea lui şi va ieşi de a le ascunde în câteva luni, dar eu nu ştiu dacă cred că este adevărat sau nu ....
El va întoarce atunci când muzica oficial moare, care nu ar trebui să fie prea lung acum ....
bine-mi n-mi SIS hd pondered mult peste thot al MJ este aşa-numita moarte până ce-am dat peste acest site .... băieţi dat chiar cred că el este încă în viaţă şi de cel care a murit este o sa uite ca, chiar ... da 1 în elicopterul ... Acesta este un sistem de mare pe care l-am imaginat ... cant chiar şi perfect logic ...
Mai întâi de toate, că povestea Debbie Rowe este fals. Deci, haideţi să părăsească că singura. Dar asta este, de fapt, chiar mai bine de ştiri. Asta înseamnă că mass-media a devenit atât de prins în acest sens, ele însele cred nimic până dovedit altfel. Ei, chiar a crezut de fals autopsie poveste. Deci, este posibil pentru Michael pentru a scoate un fals moarte pentru că mass-media latches pe la toate. În inima mea, mă simt ca ceva se intampla la suprafata la memorial. Ştiu că mai sunt doar dornic de gândire, dar modul în care oamenii implica fraza lucruri sunt ciudat să spui cel mai puţin. Ele îşi păstrează spune totul despre fani. Ei bine, un memorial nu ar trebui să fie totul despre fani. Ar trebui să fie despre Michael, nu-i asa? Jermaine este prea al naibii de persistente despre având Michaels organism îngropat la Neverland. El spune că ceea ce sa Michael ar fi vrut. El spune ca uita-te la ceea ce vă permite Michael vrea. Ei bine, didnt Michael spune ca n-ar reveni la Neverland, astfel că este aproape ca şi cum ar Michael schimbat minte este anunţându-şi familia sa stiu. A se vedea, se simte ca ei incearca sa schimbe publicului imaginea negativă a Neverland. Dacă aveţi wathced Larry King Live, atunci, probabil, au gasit-vă că locul de auto iubitoare. Ştiu că am. Doar asculta Jermaine când vorbeşte. Ştiu oameni spun întotdeauna mă simt în spiritul ei, atunci când cineva moare, dar modul Jermaine spune că este interesant. Chiar si sotia lui Miko spus este ca si cum ar fi hasn't stânga. Si eu inca nu s-au pentru a vedea o lacrimă roll jos Jermaine ochii. El a avut apătos ochii, dar fără lacrimi. Oricum sper sa nu jignesc pe nimeni prin oferirea de gândurile mele, dar, dacă nu sunteţi de pe acest site, atunci te cred că ceva se întâmplă, de asemenea. Ne pare rău, în cazul în gândurile mele de sunet jumbled. Trebuie să fie undeva în câteva, şi am vrut să plec gândurile mele cu privire la acest lucru. Sa ai o vacanta de oameni fericiţi. Remmeber, nu cred că totul în mass-media. Mass-media abia ştie ce este adevărat sau fals în sine.
Ceea ce nu înţeleg, în timpul procesului din 2005 Avocat crezut Jackson-ar ucide el însuşi "în timpul procesului
http://breakingnews.iol.ie/entertainment/lawyer-thought-jackson-would-kill-himself-during-trial-417409.html
În acest raport (la TV) ne învăţa că MJ a fost de a lua 7 analgezice pe zi.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T11jwiGBVDw&feature=related
(Nu stiu de consecinţe cu cele droguri pe corp), ar putea el performe ca putem vedea pe acest final de ultima repetiţie Video Eliberat?
De ce e acolo, interviu cu Dr. Robert Conrad Murray?
im afriad i dont de acord cu cele mai recente picior de Michaels ultima performanţă, fie de rutină este identic cu istoria lumii care au văzut în istoria tur 12yrs urmă de îndată ce l-am văzut acest nou lansat filmul am avut un sentiment de identitate văzut-o înainte, aşa că am făcut compararea şi unele vizite atât biţii de târziu la un picior şi dont le pasă de noi istoria tur şi surpriză de dans şi cântec set sunt aceleaşi el cântă dont le pasă de noi, atunci u auzi american din istoria tema apoi u auzit-o maşină corn de la ea conduce, împreună cu mine sălbatice sa marsaluim soldaţi asa ca de ce ţine de rutină identice după 12yr decalaj cu modificări nu?
Eu chiar sper acest lucru este o păcăleală, IM jumătate aşteptam să-l sari sicriul de mâine şi nu thriller sau ceva de genul asta.
Este doar doesnt aduna. Dacă el a prefacut propria moarte, atunci este complet geniu, şi total reuşeşte satiric la mass-media, care sunt asa de repede pentru a înţelege pe un senstaional poveste. Aceasta îmi aminteşte de heydey de "Wacko Jacko" când rapoartele circulat în presă că au cumpărat Michael MANS oase de elefant, sau că a dorit să arate ca Liz Taylor, sau că a dormit într-o cameră de hyperbaric. Unele dintre povestiri featured in presa sunt atât de conflict acum sale greu să ştiu ce să cred, cea mai recentă fiind o astăzi este faptul că Michael va fi înmormântat fără creier!
Adică a văzut pe nimeni de fapt, un certificat de deces? Poate Memorialului de servicii va deţine răspunsuri
Eu nu am auzit nimic despre un certificat de deces. Eu nu cred ca e mort. Stiu ca oamenii ar putea spune că este lipsa de respect, dar am un sentiment că nu. Există prea multe poveşti de acolo cu privire la diferite staţii de stiri, inclusiv pe internet. Ei spun Michal Jackson a fost dependent de analgezice din anul 1984. Am găsit un fel de greu de crezut, pentru ca, cineva ar fi cel puţin de ani în urmă, a ieşit şi a spus că e dependent de Pain medicamentele.
Familia nu par deloc trist?
Mai ales Joe Jackson, WOW!
Mama lui Katherine a fost văzut de cumpărături în esenţă o zi mai târziu? Nu-mi amintesc de ce mass-media care prezintă un cadavru fiind zburat în aer pentru a fi ridicate de către coroners? Dacă el a fost dependent de droguri autopsia a demonstrat că ar putea-o sau dacă el a murit de stop cardiac s-ar a fost deschis şi în cazul închis. Janet-au lasat in casa pentru a primi Michael calabalâc aproximativ o oră mai târziu? Şi se deplasează în camioane a fost destul de repede !!!!!
Şi pe O2 conferinţă de presă, că a fost cu siguranţă nu Michael Jackson, inclusiv atunci când el a fost wathcing de dansatori pentru audiţie de "asta e" tur, care nu a fost el, pentru că niciodată nu mestecate lui Michael gumă place tipul asta a fost o faci! El a fost suflat bule? Nebun! Din aşa-numitul nou picior care este fiind difuzate. Eu de fapt, cred că am văzut că, la fel ca în 1996, înapoi! La fel de dans / muzica stil! Michael chiar arata la fel, împreună cu lui hair.They "Presupun pentru a" avea o ceremonie privată mâine dimineaţă (marţi) la 8am. Deci, Michael nu va fi la Publice memorial! Sincer, cred că el a vrut doar sa dea carierei sale muzicale în sus, pentru că acesta a devenit instabil psihic, din cauza modului în care publicul şi nu-l trataţi copilărie, care pot afecta pe cineva. De apel 911, pare a fi doar "Unreal" pentru mine! Şi acum, dintr-o dată toată lumea vine afară de "dark" a spune da, Michael a fost dependent de droguri, am încercat, pentru a primi ajutor, dar nimeni nu va asculta? Asta e un rahat! Sunt sigur ca ar fi de "scurgeri" de ani în urmă, cu privire la abuzul de droguri. AEG (compania de asigurari) a avut o politica care a acoperit Jackson accidentale "moartea", inclusiv de la o "Supradozaj DROG", dar nu şi dacă el a murit din cauze naturale. Deci, se pare că a "murit" de o supradoză de demeoral sau prescris medicamente? Exista atat de multe gauri in poveste. Dar nimeni nu este atent, sunt buzy ascultare / crezând mass-media (care este de rahat )!!!!
Doar opinia mea!! Ştiu că este acolo undeva, dar nu şi în America! Nu sunt de vina hime pentru a face orice de acest lucru, dacă am dreptate. El a fost maltrataţi aşa de rău de atât de mulţi ani. Camera de Hyperbaric poveste, Michael însuşi de fapt "scurgeri", care o.
Nu ştiu, e ceva ciudat!
Michael a inceput propria zvon despre hyperbaric camera??
De ce este că putem vedea Michael's va, si sa copii de certificate de naştere, dar nimeni nu a deranjat să se uite la certificatul de deces? Suntem doar a accepta ceea ce mass-media ne spune.
Eu sincer sper ca se intampla ceva la Memorialul de astăzi, dacă nu, atunci eu va trebui să accepte faptul că Michael Jackson nu mai este. Ce modalitate mai bună de a lovi cu piciorul off-o lume mult tur de intorc din morţi şi de performanţă pe propriul memorial-când toată lumea este de ceas!
Dacă nu se întâmplă nimic, la Memorialul de astăzi, voi accepta sa trec, de asemenea. Nu pot să merg cu acest nebun. Cu toate acestea, chiar dacă nu se întâmplă nimic astăzi, ştiu că în inima mea ceva se întâmplă. Totul este doar nu adăugarea sus. Vreau nimic mai mult, dar pentru a reveni la acest site şi să discute cu toate cum am ştiut tot ceea ce se întâmpla. Se va rupe inima mea, dacă nu pot să iau nişte răspunsuri cu privire la acest lucru. Eu doar nu cred că e mort. Nu e negare, deoarece am pierdut un membru al familiei înainte. Eu ştiu grieving proces. Eu doar ştii ceva nu este adăugarea de sus. Dumnezeule ....
Ai dreptate. De ce nimeni hasn't interogat de certificat de deces? Isnt este ciudat că nici unul dintre medici ar semna-o?
Nimic happent azi la memoriel. Oamenii au fost trist. Exept one thing, Paris, was the only one who shoed emotions for her father. Neither price or Blanket did. Seems a bit weird. But i think that he is gone. When i saw Paris talk to him, and be so devasted afterwords, i just knew it, right there. He is really gone. Doamne. I could not believe it, my heart just stopped, and rigth after it was broken. I felt a huge whole in my stomack, and i have been crying nonstop ever since. Why Michael, why not Joe Jackson? I hate that Man, for what he did to Michael
But, i would like to know about the Death certificate also, because if someone dosen`t sign it, you are not dead, on the paper. I have hoped that we got to see Michael`s Body, but we didn`t
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Ceva se întâmplă şi cu siguranta stie cineva ceva. M-am scris în http://www.mjhoax.com şi merge la lume Internet site-ul Autorităţii. Poate a vrut MJ, pentru a vedea dacă preface de la moartea sa, el a fost cât de popular cu fanii lui. Când în istorie am avut vreodată un instrument, cum ar fi Internet pentru a măsura cât de reuşită este cineva? Pun pariu că şi el este în unele secrete locaţie uiţi în veneraţie cum acest circ devine mai multe şi mai ridicol şi scăpat de sub control. Tot ce ştiu e că am "accesat toate domeniile"
Cred ca "memorial" doar parea "diferite", dacă acesta a fost foarte "mort" de ce nu le-au deschis în cutie? Familia nu a fost cu adevărat de rupere. Mai ales copiii lui, aşa că a fost ciudat. Nu este la interogatoriu cum a "murit"?
Ei doar ţinând despre "droguri" şi "ce se va întâmpla cu copiii"? După Staples Center, a oprit la hotel, în timp ce dric a mers în altă parte? Asta în serios nu are sens. El supposely fost "mort", timp de aproape 2 săptămâni, cum poţi să nu ştii de unde să vă îngrop membru de familie. În plus, nimeni nu ştie unde este trupul la .... De certificat de deces, cred că este fals, în care oricine poate să facă respectivele. Nu e chiar semnat de către orice medici .. Nu are importanţă dacă este amânată, un medic va semna certificxate.
Lucrurile nu sunt adăugând sus, Usher, a fost mai apoi sa emoţională "NLP" de familie. Da Paris am emoţional după ce a jucat cu ea poseta chingi pentru aproximativ 5 minute. Apoi, a facut-o 180, cât mai curând ea a intrat la microfon. Fiul în vârstă de guma de mestecat ca a fost o nebunie, nu pare chiar trist. Si cel mai tanar a fost de a face ceva, dar ... mirat. Mă îndoiesc dacă a existat un organism în sicriu. Eu cred ca e inca viu.
De ce au un "privat" de înmormântare în primul rând, apoi corpul său transfer la Staples Center, s-ar putea a fost de altă invers.
La sfârşitul celui de-al memorial, el a arătat "Sunt încă în viaţă" Huh? Nu este un interogatoriu nimic, ei 'a crede în mass-media!
Trebuie să spun că după uitam ieri Memorialul ştiu cred MJ este oficial mort.
Lui cauza de deces pe certificat de deces a fost "amânată" până la rezultatele de la teste toxicologice întoarce.
Există unele întrebări grave, care trebuie să vă adresaţi -
1. Dacă MJ prefacut propria moarte şi familia sa stiu atunci cum ar putea ei afişa astfel de emoţie aşa cum au făcut aseară?
2. Nu există nici o cale de Michael Jackson s-ar fi departe de copiii lui, aşa că, dacă el se preface atunci el va trimite pentru ei sau el se va întoarce la LA. Nu tatăl ar pune copiii lor prin săblaznă de un memorial de serviciu şi de înmormântare este totul a fost fals.
3. Sunt de acord, există unele lucruri despre acest suspecte care dont adăuga, dar mă simt tot acum a mers prea departe pentru el să se întoarcă vreodată.
4. Discuţie de imposters sau decoys fiind utilizate, precum şi convingerea că wasn't mj în ambulanţă foto-cum mulţi dintre noi de fapt, ştii ce-adevăr MJ arata ca, vreau sa spun, fără a aduce, până aproape?
Nu cred că Michael Jackson este mort, fie. Sunt prea multe neconcordanţe în toate de el pentru ca acesta să fie adevărat. Mai întâi de toate ... de 911 apelantului este foarte calm şi, dacă patronul meu a fost Michael Jackson si el nu a fost de respiraţie, aş fi isteric la telefon sau cel puţin ar trebui să poată auzi un sentiment de urgenţă, în vocea mea. El nu menţionează faptul că acesta este Michael Jackson, fie. Aş. Acum, vrei să-mi spui că un medic de medicină generală, cu ani de experienta ar fi încercarea de a efectua CPR, pe o suprafata, cum ar fi un pat moale? Hai! Am luat multe CPR clase şi este primul lucru care le invata este de a încerca să aibă în organism pe o suprafaţă de greu ... de dr.. Trebuia să fi spus acest lucru de către operatorul de 911? Ridicol! Şi nu a fost, ca şi când ar fi fost într-un accident şi ar putea fi avut rupt oasele şi de aceea el nu a mutat-l la podea! De asemenea, ... nici unul din familia lui este să arate orice tip de emotie cu privire la moartea sa. Nu pot sa cred cand am vedea clipuri video de pe ei. Nimeni nu se plânge sau nimic. Când Matt Laurer intervievaţi Jermaine la Neverland, s-ar putea sa fi avut o lacrimă fluxul său de la ochi, dar este aproape pare ca daca ar fi că pentru a forţa. Şi, el a spus că a văzut pe Michael Michael a organismului, pentru că are nevoie şi de la ultima sa declaratie a fost ", a scris foarte mult în viaţă." (El a însemnat în inimile tuturor oamenilor sau a fost declarat în mod aşa că ne-am înţeles ca mod de .
Eu personal nu cred că omul care la conferinta de presa de la Londra a fost Michael Jackson. El a fost atat de gresit in orice fel de ... uite, de sunet, sa mannerisms, chiar modul în care a colindat. Aveţi cannnot mă convingă că era el. Nu sunt sigur de ceea ce semnificaţie în acest sens este şi modul în care aceasta se referă la moartea sa, dar este inca foarte ciudat.
Există mai multe neconcordanţe ... acolo a fost iniţial o să fie un public de vizionare şi de faptul că nu se întâmple. Nimeni nu a văzut cadavrul. Chiar şi atunci când Elvis a murit, a fost o fotografie cu el în sicriu. Cum am să ştiu că Michael a corpului a fost chiar şi în acest sicriu de la toate? S-ar putea foarte bine să fi fost gol pentru tot ce ştiu. Şi, sunt de acord cu persoana de pe aici care a spus că este ciudat că familia avea un serviciu privat memorial la cimitir înainte de memorial de servicii publice. Acum am auzit că Mihai nu este chiar o sa fie buriend în cimitirul de la toate.
Eu cred că ar fi în cazul în care cineva a vazut corpul lui, dar nu găsesc nimic pe care de oriunde de pe Internet.
Ştiu că sunt incoerent, aşa că vom semn de pe acum, şi pentru a se vedea ce se dezvoltă.
Sunt curios cum de a bosy în cazul în care a plecat! M-am gândit că a fost o să temporar în mormânt Padure lawns, dar în funcţie de media nimeni nu s-au întors acolo de la Memorialul de servicii .... Se pare un pic ciudat pentru a se face că, dacă acolo nu a fost bun motiv! La poliţie a spus că el a fost ingropat in cimitirul sau alte câteva, dar nu a putut fi specifice. Totul pare a fi în embroiled ambiguitate, secret şi anomalii care nu adaugă sus.
Sunt de acord sa foarte ciudat există încă nici o poza de la mort Michael Jackson. Nu este în sicriul lui, nici o poza de familie de la Padure lawns. Vă face să vă întreb ... ca de paparazi sunt următoarele acestor oameni ca vulturi, nu ar fi trebuit să fie orice fotografii.
Aceasta, de asemenea, face imaginea de Michael fiind grăbit în spital mai multe suspecte. La acel moment, aproape nimeni nu ştie despre situaţia lui, cum este posibil ca exact în acel moment singura fotografie care se ia la locul exact? Aceasta ar fi trebuit să fie necunoscută, care a fost Michael Jackson ca 911 de apel nu au evidenţiat un nume de domn.
Există o mulţime de mass-media cu privire la moartea lui asumat, şi de această imagine este tot ce ne-am luat. De paparazi ar trebui să fie lupta împotriva lor fundul exclusiv pentru poze!
Mă bucur că mai există şi alţi oameni care cred că asta a fost o imposter la 02 Arena. Am văzut că video de pe YouTube şi imediat am fost convins de moment am văzut imposter plimbare, atunci, desigur, atunci când a vorbit. Dar sunt încă mai încearcă să afli "de ce" Michael nevoie de un interpret. Am făcut o mulţime de activităţi de cercetare, de asemenea, şi am observat că se pare că, din anul 2005 nu a existat alte imposters de lucru pentru Michael .. Fă-ţi de cercetare şi de comparare fotografii şi înregistrări video. Dacă ştiţi MJ a feţei, apoi se va vedea diferenţa. Am de asemenea, cred că am fost imposter intervievarea cu Geraldo, şi de repetitii pe scena de concert. Cred că Michael a fost planificare acest păcăleală de ceva timp, acum, el este foarte inteligent şi au avut bani pentru a angaja cel mai bun de la cel mai bun imposters în lume - şi, probabil, plătiţi pentru chirurgie plastică. Fie MJ a acestor imposters să-şi facă aparitii în timp ce el este plotting lui get-away,,, sau, el a fost ucis înainte de acest fel şi de aceste imposters s-au încercat să-l acopere acest tot timpul ... eu chiar nu stiu ce sa cred. . oricine are un comentariu cu privire la acest lucru?
Pentru a Tiffany:
Este posibil ca Michael a murit câteva luni în urmă şi imposters luat locul lui. Poate că el a fost ucis pentru datorii la Bahrein Princes. Toate posibil ..
Dar, din acest punct AEG a avut o problema, ca "asta e" (doubtfull nume) tur a fost deja planificate şi o mulţime de monney a fost implicat. Aşa că au pus un imposter în loc artizanale şi a planului de a lăsa să-l "die" câteva zile / săptămâni înainte de primul concert ca imposter nu a fost capabil să facă show, fără a fi observat ca diferite. Acest lucru ar putea fi, de asemenea, motivul pentru care o întârziere de prima concerte.
După moartea în scenă, pe care o cunosc a vânzărilor de CD, DVD şi alte merchandising cerul va fi ridicat, încercând să reducă la minimum pierderile sau, aşa cum se arată în acest moment, fac sau vor face o mulţime de bani de la "Ultima repetiţie DVD" , la "Memorialul DVD" şi omagiu concerte.
Acest lucru lasă-mă cu o întrebare: Cum ar putea imposter prost Michaels copii şi de familie sau cu alte rude. Acestea ar fi uşor cunosc diferenţe. El poate arata la fel, dar el nu va avea aceeaşi memorie ca Michael.
(Cu toate acestea zvonuri / news in Olanda acum este că încă coronor a Michaels creier pentru o analiza ulterioara)
După vizionarea de la Paris, lucru din nou, El nu face sensul că se pare ca este o fata. M-am gandit la acelasi lucru ca să-i văd zâmbind în întreaga memorial şi apoi la sfârşitul, Tocmai up si voluntari pentru ea discurs public? Cred că nu. Michael a fost 5'10Ft, Si primul crezut că a venit în mintea mea când am văzut prima sicriul laminate afară a fost că aceasta a fost prea mic! Niciodată în istoria de decese, deşi am auzit de un organism care nu a fost îngropat în două săptămâni. Asta este doar în mod normal, nemaiauzit. Ceva este în sus, că ştiu. Cred că Memorialul, a fost o înscenare. Poate că toată lumea este plătit în acest caz. DACĂ, Michael niciodată nu a reuşit să suprafaţă, din nou, de poliţie nu va stare de arest, pentru că el a unui acord de bani. Orice este posibil. După toate, Michael escală Dacă totul este posibil, orice este posibil. Mă simt mai în largul la ştiind că este încă în viaţă. Un povară puţin a fost ridicat din umeri mea. Nu îmi pot imagina o lume fără el în ea.
Dacă înşelăciune au fost suspectate, atunci de ce nu ţine de suthorities organismul???? Dacă aceasta s-au Joe publice, apoi, până când toate acestea ar căi au fost analizate şi apoi de organism ar putea fi puse în înmormântare. Nu cremare ar fi sancţionat, deoarece acestea ar putea avea nevoie pentru a exume organismul pentru mai multe tesing. Ştiu acest lucru ca pe un fapt, pentru că s-a întâmplat cu prietenii mei mama, care a murit la începutul anilor 90 în conditii suspecte şi nu le-ar permite o cremare. Trupul ei a fost săpate chiar de câteva luni după moartea ei pentru un al doilea PM.
Am fost a discuta acest lucru cu un prieten care este o femeie de poliţie şi este de acord cu mine că este încrezător că el este încă în viaţă şi a scăpat de "lume" pentru a încerca să câştige unele semblamce de normalitate, în ultimii ani din viaţa sa . S-a dus pe de spus de ce a crezut că nu au avut un sicriu deschis ca James Brown a avut sau Prinţesa Grace de Monaco. De ce nu a putut oameni fişier trecut şi în linişte îşi plătească ultima repects???? În cazul în care acesta a fost "doar un atac de cord, apoi de cap ar fi intacte pentru vizualizare, chiar dacă ar fi doar a avut un voile pânză peste asta, s-ar da într-un fel de confirmare de la moartea sa.
În cele din urmă sunt de acord cu alte comentarii despre vânzări de albume şi a vânzărilor, de Break-ar fi, din nou, în valoare de milioane de la faptul că în pace.
Inca nu sunteti convinsi ca e mort!
Nu este, cu siguranţă, o mulţime greşit în acest caz. Despre dimensiunea sicriul: Din poze am vazut, un organism nu este situată direct în caseta, dar nu există un fel de "scaun" construi în care scade lungimea utilizate pentru un organism complet. Poate thats motivul pentru sicriu uita prea scurt
A FOST Michael în rehearsels video `s danceing şi sining. ! st de toate, se duce până aproape de aparatul de fotografiat, am întrerupt video, şi sa uitat la ochii lui, nimeni nu, nu contează cât de mult surgury poate avea astfel de ochi frumosi. Daca se uita la ea atent, poti auzi Michael vorbesc de multe ori, în timp ce el este sining, care este vocea lui. Si damce, puteţi prectice pentru totdeauna, dacă doriţi, dar nimeni nu misca ca Michael. Sunt destul de sigur, că a fost el la rehearsels. Trebuie să fiu de acord cu coment, acolo unde este scris, că poliţia nu va arestare Michael, dacă el ar trebui să mai apară din nou, nu au obiceiul. El poate rezolva cu bani. Dar dacă el este în viaţă, el se va întoarce. Probely la una dintre datele de concert. Sunt sigur că la copii ştie că este în viaţă. Mi-ar fi crezut că el a fost cu adevărat mort, dacă i haden `am vazut de teză: Im in viata, sunt im aici pentru totdeauna" Voi face un pariu pe care faptul că a fost un semn. Dar nimeni nu a plătit atenţia că, unii oameni cred că doar ceea ce mass-media este de a ne. Nu `t. Cred că Michael este în viaţă, şi lumea va afla destul de curand.
L-am analizat 911 de înregistrare postate pe "Youtube" şi deformat de răspuns de la medic în timp ce serviciile de urgenţă sunt vorbind cu apelantului este acest "Este Michael Jackson, spune-i să vină" Vocea de la medicul de sunete straine, fie europene sau Hispanic - America Latină - Am încetinit de înregistrare în jos, la acel punct şi luat, el a fost ceea ce spun. O altă piesă este de mirare, chiar înainte de apelantului este rugat să-l de pe podea, un alt vorbitor - nu apelantului, nu de urgenţă operator - spune "E pe podea" de ce! Este aproape ca fiind solicită să spun lucruri special în timpul conversaţiei. Operatorul apoi spune "E pe podea "!!!!! Se pare că nu a "urgenţă", care v-ar aştepta de la voci în fundal, care par a fi vorbit într-un mod calm, ca în situaţiile în care aceste informaţii sunt de multe ori a trecut de la petrecerile de la un numar destul de repede pentru a se asigura că rata de "rănite" au participat la cât mai repede posibil. De "Golden Hour" este prima oră după ce un incident, atunci când în cele mai multe cazuri, partea vătămată poate fi reînviat de sănătate deplină, medicul ar fi trebuit să ştie acest lucru şi au răspuns imediat, pentru a se asigura că Michael Jackson ar fi supravieţuit. Dar, daca ar fi fost administrarea de medicamente care au fost posibil din cauza asta, atunci, el a fost acoperă urmele lui, sau de a face o încercare de lame de a face acest lucru.
Am citit despre asta cu ani în urmă ... MJ ar etapă propria moarte .... (Mesia sindrom) ... apoi reveni cu cea mai mare revenire din toate timpurile .... Şi ony persoana care va fi permisă pentru un interviu cu el despre "cum a făcut asta" .... ESTE serialului!!! că a vrut să demonstreze lumii că "mass-media pot fi greşite" ... aceasta va duce la închiderea copilului importunare presupuneri .... Whacko Jacko insulte ... si liniste, espacially CNN ... .. de la care au oricare jounalistic intengrity de atunci!
Acesta este motivul pentru Oprah nu a fost în jur, la toate!
Lui nu au fost cei mai buni prieteni AAT Memorialul LIZ Taylor ... .... Liza MINELLI FIICELE ... ... ... Chris Tucker. Diana Ross ... .. şi atât de multe altele .... MJs Familiei sunt toate ajutor cu păcăleală ... pentru a arunca pe toată lumea!
Rickster, pentru a fi complet hornest, cred ca ai dreptate. Asta mi-a fost gandit vreodata ca mesaj apeared pe scena backwall pe capsa Center. Cred că va trebui să aşteptăm şi să vedem la spre a face din familie sunt unele dintre datele de concert, şi "Jackson 5 Reunion"
Poate MJ a trecut pentru a începe o viaţă nouă în Bahrain îmbrăcaţi în haine de arabă ca asta -
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article719783.ece
Sau poate Hes mers rotund îmbrăcat ca o femeie ca asta -
http://worldofwonder.net/archives/2006/10/12/girlie_jeans/
De fapt am privit pe Oprah recent interviu cu MJ la Neverland Ranch. În teatru privat din ferma MJ spune ceva de genul "Am incercat sa imite pe Isus (apoi se opreşte temporar) Adica nu ma spun eu sunt Isus". El spune că acest lucru ajută despre copii, dar dacă el încearcă să imite pe Isus, de ce nu încercaţi un "înviere" de un fel de bine ca ...? De asemenea, am citit doar despre un zvon spune că O2 concerte va afişa ultima repetiţie video care este împuşcat în 3D şi de articol a spus că "acest lucru este aproape ca el este cu adevărat acolo". Mi se pare o alegere destul de untasteful de la Jackson de familie, dacă el este chiar mort. Dar nu ştiu, este doar o idee ..
toată lumea contribuţia pe acest blog este de a oferi puncte de vedere diferite de observare şi de detalii, acest lucru mi-a spus ppl în afară de mine sunt de gândire ... putem aduce MJ "" moartea "la un numitor comun şi că este: Michael Jackson în scenă este propria moarte şi a dispărut de la vedere de acum. Toate de "detalii" din jurul lui dispariţia nu au fost perfect executat cât mai multe şi-a exprimat îndoieli şi întrebări despre acest "caz". Este pur şi simplu acest lucru: mass-media este amăgitor noi toţi cu "Michael Jackson" mania si este exact acest curs seductie cu vreodată "noi informaţii" în curs de apariţie, care este de făcut pentru a păstra distrag de la real adevărului, un adevăr atât de multe de pe acest blog s-au oferit şi bucăţi de biţi. Ce stim despre adevărul sunt 2 lucruri: 1. este evident, şi 2. este întotdeauna prevalează, dar e nevoie de timp pentru a triumfa şi-ar putea să nu pune din nou ochii pe Michael Jackson live pe scenă sau în alt mod. Elvis În timp ce se ascunde în SUA protecţia martorilor program, MJ are o altă ordine de zi şi ar putea decide să facă un şoc şi veneraţie înviere act, vom vedea cât de mult adevărul va avea, la un moment dat să prevaleze, şi, au evidenţiat în sine.
Nu există nici o dovadă credibilă că MJ este mort, o "moarte certifiate" pot fi falsificate şi puse în circulaţie, pentru a se umezi de curiousity de acei dintre noi care sunt îndoielnice, şi mai multe astfel de "dovezi" va fi floated, pe care le-au destul de un loc de muncă pentru a face acest lucru să se liniştească toate jos, la urma urmei, acesta este Michael Jackson .... Michael Jackson a fost / este iubit de toată lumea şi dacă el se hotărăşte să "reapărea", crede-ma, nu o singură persoană va organiza împotriva lui având în scenă propria moarte, dar toată lumea va fi în stare de şoc total / pură bucurie că este inapoi ... dacă acesta decide să rămână în ascunderea, s-ar putea găsi o viaţă a fost dor de el şi poate prefera să rămână clandestine, vom vedea, nu va vom?
Heisalive. Sunt de acord cu tine de cele mai multe din lucrurile
. Michael nu va fi "dus" pentru mult timp, aşa cum ai spus, el este iubit peste tot în lume şi nimeni nu-l condamn pentru a face asta. Intreaga ar ar fi în pană, dar ar fi cea mai mare plug tras vreodată. Mi-ar fi atât de fericit dacă el însuşi decited pentru a descoperi, pe de concert de la ziua lui, care sunt fraţii lui de gând să faci. Dar i unfortiently de asemenea, cred că i-ar fi amidietly inima failer lol, doar i-ar muri, dacă el a venit inapoi. Deci, trebuie doar sa-l iubesc pentru mine 
Acestea au fost arate o imagine de michael de la liberian fata video stabili un lot la sfârşitul, ive a făcut-mi seama de faptul că spectacolul a fost un MJ de producţie, dar toate de filmare. Chiar Bubbles ar vedea trecut acest păcăleală. Există două multe cues ascunse in toata memorial.
MyBelovedMJ … I did not say MJ “will not be gone for long” at all, re-read my previous posting and you will see I did NOT say, nor imply it, my point made has a different meaning altogether. Remember this: Michael Jackson is not a healthy man physically nor emotionally as was very obvious while he was visible. Ergo: He'll require a great deal of time and care to reacquire his bearings before any “comeback” could be considered and materialize.
“Loving him for you” is not an option on my end, the only man I really love is: JESUS and HE WILL BE BACK FOR CERTAIN, no question.
Michael Jackson is made out of the same dirt we're all made out of, he had the added blessing of great talent which was wrapped into a gentle, vulnerable soul which shows itself as eccentricity in an artist. It occured to me just this afternoon that MJ was born into and raised in a dysfunctional family, having had to endure an abusive father (who reminds me of the devil in person btw!) having had his childhood stolen from him by force and was made into a energizer bunny-like “money machine” for years on end, an overbearing load to shoulder and bear for any human, twiceover taxing for a kindred spirit and soul as it is Michael Jackson.
Again, all of this logically supports the “escape/run away” theory of a “staged death”. I pray he is under the best medical care by REAL doctors and is receiving the “”don't stop 'til you get enough”"-help he needs, in a safe place where noone can get to him, pray for God's love to heal him …..
Dave859, you are absolutely right about “hidden clues in the memorial service”. I am convinced there was NO body in that casket for starters and moreover, important friends didnt show, but folks who hadn't had contact with MJ in years and/or had only met him once, etc etc. This whole thing has a negligent “director”, Elvis' parting was staged far more intricately and meticulously, dont cha agree ?
The faux pas made are mounting and mounting, however recognizable only to those of us who are unto this whole thing. Meanwhile, the media is now stoned on all the “drug stuff” coming out and keeps floating more and more “seduction” …. Thank you for reading, please post back
bexuk: M-am gândit la asta. Maybe he's out on the middle east somewhere assuming a new name, new identity, and a whole new life, a life full of peace – something he's been longing for his entire life.
I agree that there is an ENORMOUS amount of conflicting information starting with the chain of events beginning at Michael's home that even the media doesn't seem to be addressing, or I've missed it. When someone you care deeply about passes on it's natural to have doubts. I do have to say though that these conflicts are a bit much for me too. I do think it was him at the conference. I agree with the gal above that his gate didn't seem like his when he walked in from the vehicle outside but I think that's in part because the jacket was so large. And I do think that was him on stage at the conference. That was his face, voice and the hands were his. He seemed loopy. I think he was probably tipsy on something. Someone on another page on this site made a mention about Paris and I had to agree with him. She didn't seem that upset. This could be because the initial shock at passed – so many days had gone by. I don't doubt for one minute that she loved her daddy deeply. She was telling all the hateful people in the world how wonderful Michael was and he was. But it was when Paris spoke that I took a step back and thought hmmm….I wonder…could he still be among us. But let's be sensible I tell myself…It would be quite an undertaking for all of these people to pull off this hoax. I'd like to know what the deal is with the DOCTOR that was at the house. Why in the world would he immediately surround himself with a legal team if something wasn't amiss. Whether Michael is physically gone or not, one thing is certain..we will never see him again.
Most people around the world would attest that Michael Jackson is the greatest and most popular entertainer in the world. That said, if anyone could pull off a death hoax, it would certainly be him. De ce ar face asta? 1) He was in debt. His albums now occupy the top five spots on Billboard album sales and estimates indicate that within the week these sales will have paid off his debt. 2) He is very innovative, which is what keeps him at the top of his game as an entertainer. By faking his death and then reappearing, his popularity and worth will skyrocket. People will feel that they have a “second chance” to witness him perform, and they will not hesitate to pass up that opportunity. 3) The combined publicity from this event and from his future reappearance are quite strategic maneuvers, both career-wise and financially. 4) There was a recent article pointing out that Prince was now “on top” in terms of hit music, when compared to Michael Jackson. Also, Prince played for 21 nights in London last year, yet Michael's shows were already up to 50 in London. Surely, that's a sign of competition between the two.
Possible evidence: 1) No tears were shed during the “memorial service” by any of the family members. Sure, there were several moments of choking up, but not a single tear — look at the picture from the cover of USAToday. 2) We have a symbolic tradition here in the US that when you are hopefully expecting the return of a loved one you tie or display a yellow ribbon. All of the Jackson brothers were wearing yellow ties at the memorial service. 3) Jackson's shows were scheduled to begin on July 13th and couldn't have gone on much longer before the production having to move to London for those performances. They already had Staples Center rented out for rehearsals, which seems a bit much for just rehearsals in that it just so happens to be the largest indoor venue in one of the largest cities in the US I mean, Pink Floyd practiced in an airplane hangar, not a prime venue at some exorbitant rate. So, having the largest facility in one of the largest cities already rented, they were able to pull off this “memorial service” bit.
I'd also like to point out that James Brown, Michael Jackson's idol as a performer, died on December 25. Michael “died” on June 25 — exactly six months opposite and surely symbolic. And even JB had an open casket.
The difference between Michael and Elvis in the suggestion of them faking their deaths is that I don't believe that anyone had suggested that a celebrity would do this until Elvis died. I believe Elvis is dead (though that movie Bubba Ho-tep is pretty funny), but the idea of a celebrity death hoax was born with him and for 32 years Michael has been able to ponder that scenario for himself. I don't ever recall hearing that MJ loathed or disliked his celebrity; from what I understand, he always knew it to be a part of his life, and with the upcoming shows, it is obvious that he intended on staying in the spotlight. Therefore, it is unreasonable to think that he would pull a death hoax to end his career, rather, he would only use it to catapult it to a level beyond where it had been before.
Crazy? Posibil. Unrealistic? Not hardly. Will Michael Jackson be back? Vom vedea.
Good post Rickster…
Usually Oprah is all over stuff like this and not one word has she spoken about MJ. No bantering to try and get interviews with the family, nothing.
MJ's true friends were not at the memorial (okay maybe Stevie Wonder and uh, what's his name, I think Lionel Richie or was that Smokey Robinson, I don't remember anymore…lol… but the Jackson family requested Queen Latifah, John Mayer, Jennifer Hudson to be there and they said they had never even met MJ! (I found that out on the Huffington Post).
Now why would the family invite people whom Michael hadn't met?
The Huffington Post also mentioned that Usher and Mariah Carey barely knew MJ and that Brooke Shields hadn't seen / talked to him in 18 years.
What in the world is going on?
I have just been reading about the “disappearances” of prominent people over the years. One that stood out in my mind was the Premier of Australia – Harold Holt – He “vanished” after going swimming. No body was ever recovered, that was in 1967. There has been speculation about his disappearance since that time. Another is Lord Lucan, who vanished without a trace after, apparently murdering the families nanny back in 1974.
http://www.lordlucan.com/lucan_story.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Holt
I read in my local paper just after MJ “died” about one of his security men who comes from North Wales, where I live. He said that MJ had a secret companion, to whom he was absolutely devoted. She was kept from the publics gaze, and was never seen with him, but was in his life and that she may emerge after his death……Well, where is she???? Have they gone off together, has he planned this so well that he would never be alone if she were with him??? Prea multe întrebări şi răspunsuri nu este de ajuns. Another thing I saw today was on the front cover of The Star newspaper
http://www.dailystar.co.uk
about a couple who claim to be the real parents of MJ's children…..They are all jumping on the band wagon now, but it will be interesting to see if the claims are founded!!! No smoke without fire I say. As had been said a couple of times on this forum, he would never leave “his” kids, but if he were to discover that they were not his, then he may be so devastated that this is the sort of thing he would do, the anguise and torment would be too much for him.
Just a thought!!!!!
WHERE IS HIS BODY???????? Still no sign of a burial!!!!!
hhhmm i don't know what to say but keep praying for him where ever Mike is.
The divine miss jones. The companion you are talking about, that Michael had. Ive heard that she got fired in December last year. But who know`s
If they should be together, I hope he is happy 
I don't know much about Elvis and his claimed hoax death. But if Elvis faked his death, it would hav been much easier in the 1970's. There was no Internet or Cell phone. It was much easier to cover things up.
Now Michael possibly tried it again in the 21 century where almost evryone has acces to the internet, cell phone photo camera.
It would be much more difficult nowadays to pull this off. There are so many things to take into account for such a fake death job. Now it seems there are some loose ends wich they cannot cover up (anymore).
That may also be the reason why lots of negative stories about Michaels kids, his drug abuse and his debts are in the media. They try to distract people from what really happenend. Most sources of thes articles are close to the family or former employees of Michael. But none of them (OK, some exceptions) is called by name in these articles.
I hope ther will be a comfirmation the comming days wether he really died or he faked his death.
he did sleep in a hyperbaric chamber that is true
he is not with anyone i know this for a fact i will not give my info out but he is single and was never involved after debbie i do not know where you heard that lol
wow new info mother katherine gets kids and debbie rowe now asked for a delay to decide ok why the change she wanted them she said they are my children now she has to think about it who has talked to her about plans lol who is paying her off she was very determined to get her kids now she needs time to think the plot thinkens why is everything michael wanted unfolding must be for a reason i wonder how many ppl are getting paid off to complete this
Supermon75, well one of his bodyguards, said it on an interwiev. Don`t remember his name. but he did.. well good to know that he is singel. Cause i think he is sexy
Former bodygurds, i should say. a few days after michael “died”.
The family was furious that the hearse was drove by a white SWAP member.They wanted it to be an African American who drove the hearse.
After the memorial there was no body of mj in the hearse.
What does it matter who drove the hearse.
You can read it at the following link:
http:www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/07/exclusive-swat-team-transported-michael-jackson's-body-family-battled-cops
The body of mj is being held in the crypt of Berry Gordy.
The family has not decided “yet” wher he should be buried.
If you still don't know that after more than 2 weeks then you'll never know.
But then you can stretch this as long as possible.
http://
http://www.nme.com/news/michael-jackson/45976
my other comment had to be SWAT member.And the link is:
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/07/exclusive-swat-team-transported-michael-jackson 's-body-family-battled-cops
They firts said there was no evidence of foul play.
And now they say it can turn in to a homicide case.
Can anyone tell me what is the difference.
this MJ saga is getting real ugly now with all the drug info coming out and poured all over him. Was it a wonder that MJ was addicted to drugs ? Were drugs his only escape ? This is very very likely. As to his chronic insomnia: this one goes to monster Daddy Dearest Joe Jackson who when Michael was a young boy, appeared with a werewulf mask at his bedroom window to “teach im a lesson” to keep the window closed at nite. Imagine how this “trick” from Daddy Joe must have petrified little Michael at the time this took place. Incidents like this one created irreversible damage to the psyche of a human, especially a young child. This ghoulish experience and fear grew with Michael and the fear part would not let him sleep normally, so he reached for help and over did it.
As a young child, I had several incidents with a variety of animals who attacked and hurt me, so much so, that I could never shake the fear of them and this fear is still with me very much, so in a way, I can relate to Michael's fear of going to sleep. I deliberately choose a community to live in where housepets are shunned on and are forbidden so that I can feel TOTALLY SECURE to not be attacked by an animal.
Michael was petrified, fearful of a whole list of things, what better motivator to escape it all .. escape to: SAFETY !!!
Anyone ?
bt dont you think lapd is intelligent enough to check the dna of mj and of that imposter or the police dept. is also involved. i really want to believe that mj is still alive.
every day new drug is been published to which( the media claims) that mj was addicted to. i think had mj been doing so many drugs at one go he would have died years ago . come on yaar i really wanna know the reality
how can media nt hound upon a single clip of mjs dead body is beyond my understanding
how can mj fool the docs the police the media and everything which goes into it. i am hoping for an answer soon..
My husband – whose initials are MJ – runs a business from home and yesterday a woman called to ask what the MJ stood for, when I told her she went quiet, then I twigged, and said, “Did you think it stood for Michael Jackson?” to which she slammed the phone down. People are doing some very strange things.
I have asked around about the “temporary” burial of a body. In Britain that cannot de done because it requires special permission from a Government Department called the Home Office to move the body once a burial has taken place. In order to remove it from one spot to another you would have to be granted an exumation order. I am sure that similar rules apply in the US and if this is the case, you need to be looking at City Hall records and Government Departments to find out if such a request is being made.
Lsstly, a comment from my 11 year old son…Why did President Obama seem so unmoved by the event, during an interview he had to be prompted to say something about it. Considering MJ's popularity you would have thought that to “humour” his fans a Presidential recognition of the death for have been one of his main topics.!!!!!!
i dont know how to put this bt honestly i believe whether he is gone into hiding or god forbaid he is even dead . i think he is in a better position in a better state than he was earlier. out of all this media hooplah the crazy stories.he deserved every bit of peace he wasnt able to get. it hard bt lets face it we never deserved mj we never respected him when he was alive and giving us so much to cherish . and know we are remembering him and wishing him to come back. how stupid of us. he was the best he was like jesus who went into so much of suffering for his children (the world) and what we gave him crucification ditto we have done with jackson.
Dikki. Do not say, “WE” Never did. Speak for yourself. Some of us actuelly did
i said we bcuz we were sitting silent in our homes when allegations were being charged on him. we didnt do anything we could have bought protests or something may bur tryin to over react read my sentence in the context am saying
and as for me i have been fighting with my friends and relatives who have been telling me that he was what media framed him to b. i love him and i know it.
Now here's a thought, and it's just a thought. Thinking back to a personal experience of mine. My step-father died very suddenly from a heart attack about 6 weeks after having a pace maker inplanted. For the 6 weeks that he lived he said he felt great, and he looked fine, then WHAM! Gone. The PM in his case found a blood clot that had been sitting in his blood stream for goodness knows how long, once the pace maker was in place the heart beat regulated and the blood flow increased, accelerating the clot to his heart thus giving him the heart attack. He actually died mid sentence while talking to a friend.
Now, lets do a “what if” senario for MJ. What if he too had a blood clot. Years of plane travel can apparently cause one of these beasts. “What if” the rigorous dance routines and rehearsals had acclerated the heart beat, thus pumping the clot round to his heart. He may have felt some chest pain prior to dying, he may have asked for pain relief. We don't know, we were'nt there. This could have been missed by a physical, just as my step-fathers (prior to his surgery).
As I said, it's just a thought, but I feel it is one that I should voice.
Okay!!!!
so everybody thinks he faked his death…..
well to be honest if i could choose i would love that he would still be alive.
But i got a question…..
they have that last photo from him on the ambulance, he went to the hospital, that might have happened.
Let me tell you this, I'm from portugal and before they broke the news in the states that michael was dead, here in postugal that had already done that, in US media there was only the news that he went to the hospital, nothing more, probably an hour later they gave the news that he died… so does this mean anything i don't……
But why say that he faked his death????? did anyone thought of the possibility that he might be in a coma and and his managers and family faked his death??????
Well i really don't whta to believe, maybe we all never thought that we would die someday, that he was invincible, maybe he died and just can't cope with that, we are so desperate to believe that he is still alive…..
To be HONEST i really want him to be alive, it just feels like music died
Okey. I hear ya. I can only speak for myself here
. Im not to desperate to think that he might still be alive. But i am pretty sure that he aint dead. Look at sll the facts, all the hints at the memoriel. Nothing adds up. NOTHING. And to be hornest, the one to tank for that is Latoys, she really blew it, at that thing where she was talking. She said: Michael always said, Family 1st fans 2nd. He loves you very much, and he is watching every singel one of you right now. He loves you with all his heart. Let me just say!!! DOHH!!! That was pretty stupid of her.. She should have talked about him in pressence sence. Not like he is still here, if she wanted to keep up his cover. Im glad that she aint my sister, incase i ever needed to fake my own death. That would be bad
I am convinced this is a hoax at the 02 arena Michael Jackson said I am serious this is the last curtain call and gave a suspicious look He stated “This Is It”. When Oprah did not make a public announcement. Something was strange when the family managers set up a crisis line and told fans please do not kill themselves. And when his brother said Michael Jackson maybe they will leave you alone. I believe the memorial service was a goodbye to his fans and career as an entertainer. He was saying good bye to his music career to peruse a peaceful life away from the media attention. Michael Jackson if you are out their alive I don't blame you thank you for all the wonderful music. Your music will live forever
Well well well, somebody else besides me has FINALLY noticed that the video footage from the rehearsal the night before MJ's alleged “death” is OLD FOOTAGE. NO human as weak as MJ appearing in the media weighing only 112 lbs is physically able to pull off a dance routine like shown in the vido, no way !!!! I am a dancer myself and can say with credible certainty that it is NOT possible ! My “this cannot be MJ”-hunch with this video was right on target. This net of lies being spun and presented to the public is outrageous in that these ppl, AEG and the Jacksons think we are all stupid ???
Not one single member of the mainstream media has so much as breathed a word that MJ staged his death, with one possible exception: Gerald Hessler from “The daily beast”, a US rag last sunday stated on the Geraldo Rivera Show that Michael “did not want to do this at all” referring to the London gig/s and said further that MJ wanted to use “Swine flu” to get “out of the gig” .. Hessler barely got the last cylable out of his mouth when he was CUT off and the subject was abruptly changed, did anyone besides me see that show ???
Hessler was on again this evening, 7/12, but this time hummed an altogether different tune and talked “nicely” …'hint'
LaToya's interview with some british rag is real heavy hitting, have the Jackson's become aware that the public is onto them and gave this interview to up the score ? Very possible !
I consider it a likely possibility that MJ made away right after his appearance at the rehearsal,that is: if that was him at all OR one of his doubles; that the person in the ambulance was definitely NOT MJ is very obvious as well as the double at the London press conference; that NONE of MJ's close friends like Taylor, Ross, Minelli, Uri Geller and many others did not show at the memorial AND are still NOT speaking out is highly questioable and beyond bizarre; that LaToya “gave” an interview to some british rag to inject a new hit of crack-cocaine into more “these are the facts” media floating ??? How LONG can these ppl keep up this act ?
What they NEED to do is button up and stay in total seclusion if they want the public to believe that MJ has really “died” …
This is a conspiracy and whatever “information” is being floated and coming, whatever, I just pray that Michael is under the medical care of doctors he can trust and are are treating him to become well again, mentally and physically so that he can live a life he has yearned for elsewhere. We may never see him again and if that is so, remember: we did have the best of him for years and he is entitled to live a life in peace and safety.
What is everybody else thinking ?
he was not 112 that was a lie
they said in the autopsy michael was very helthy and no signs of foul play and they ruled out natrual causes already
he wanted air time is is all gossip do not believe anything you here like one of his former house keeper trie to say he locked children in his room feed them wine in baby bottles come on now he would never do that
I think MJ would have been better of saying he caught Swine Flu to get out of these gigs he so obviously did not want to do and was pressured into! If only he knew what type of circus and media frenzy he would create by instead faking his death.
Then again, he probably just didn't care anymore. I hope he is well, wherever he is.
Sunt de acord cu tine. I don`t care if he ever comes back to perform. As long as he is alive, safe and well. That is the only thing that matters to me
michael would never inject himself i do not belive he was an addict at all and the media is cooking something up cause then they will not get paid if he is not found dead by overdose as it is stated in his insurance claim for the this is it concert they cover over dose but not natrual causes
here is another one for you all xanax if he was taking as much as they say he would be to tired to do anything he would not have sleep ap ok and most of the drugs he was doin are downers so how do they get he can not sleep out of that i do not understand
Correction: “The Daily Beast” reporter's name is Gerald POSNER (I am sorry I misunderstood the name and got it correctly the 2nd time) apologies – thanks
My 11 year old son has been playing detective regarding MJ. Now here is an observation that he made about MJ's right hand….Follow me with this one because you have to be quick. I am attaching a video of “The way you make me feel” from Youtube. At 3.14 – just after he shouts “Hey”, he extends two fingers and his thumb of his right hand. The thumb is the bit you need to concentrate on…You will notice that the tumb itstself curls at quite an acute angle and the bone just above sticks out to give an almost triangular appearance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJrUa-zKeIc
If you look at other footage ie the press conference in O2 arena London check out his right hand…for the same anomalies that I have already mentioned.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_256XQiS1X8
You could possibly trace his entire career by just looking for that one over-riding physical – dare I say – defect – I am, but not in a malicious way.
Now look at the “final rehearsal” video…At the end of the routine he extends his right arm and hand…check it out. Unless he had surgery to correct his hands, which could explain gloves and gauntlets in the past…then it looks to me, and this is a personal observation…to be someone else.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_256XQiS1X8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRQrmOc-Tts
This is the rehearsal footage that I watched. Sorry…repeated the youtube links. Take a look following the thread about the right hand.
Mrs. Jones: I agree about the “defect” but if you look at this video at about 45 seconds, he extends his hand and the bump is gone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz_J_do9hzY&feature=related
But if you look at the O2 Press Conference video, “MJ” calls the guy over and puts his hand on his shoulder and the bump is there!
However, I do NOT think it was really MJ at the press conference. The chin, smile, moves, etc. MJ would not get up there and talk the way this guy did. He sounded like an idiot. MJ was/is very well spoken in front of the camera. Look at any of his interviews. One thing about his hands, he seems to have the longest hands on a human! Cu adevărat! His fingers are so long! But at the press conf, his hands are shorter and fatter it seems. MJ's hands are so skinny too. Not at the conference, yet he doesn't appear to have put on any weight. I know when most people put on weight, your fingers get fatter too. don't they? Anyway, at the press conference, that is NAVI! Not MJ. Look at Navi's pics. He has a wide smile, and his lips look more like a normal mouth than MJ's (normal?). Whether or not MJ is really dead, that is NOT him at the conference. That is Navi! Your son is very observant! Tine-o venind!
Over lunch the family came up with some other theories. One of which is this, MJ borrowed money from a Saudi prince – Yes! He was then asked to repay the money back – If he was as broke as they say, where did the cash come from? Our over lunch theorizing was this – and you have to remember that we were allowing our minds to do overtime on the conspiracy
theory – what if he borrowed it again from the Mafia, couldn't pay it back and the doctor was paid to see him off. With the so called pain killer adiction, no one would question too deeply what the doctor did…As I said, it was over lunch, and it was a bash at a theory.
I miss him, the world was a much better place with him in it, I only wish I had appreciated him more when he was here.
I KNOW that was MJ at the 02 confrence.
Navi has a deeper voice then MJ.
Hi Divershay, And Hi there everyone from a warm and windy North Wales.
Now, let us suppose that if you are told something often enough, you start to believe it!
If we, the fans, are told that the person we are looking at is MJ, then, are we not drawn into the plot to keep the real MJ from prying eyes. A confidence trick.
During the 2nd World War there was a chap who looked like General Montgomery. A plan was devised to use this man to impersonate Monty and go to North Africa.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Was_Monty 's_Double_(film)
This makes the impersonator theory a good one, because we do not see the man – MJ – all the time, the person thrust infront of us, who we are told is MJ, we beieve is MJ. We only see photos that are tarted up and made to look enigmatic. We so want it to be him, that we truly believe that it is.
Tonight, on British Television – Channel 4 – was a documentary about the passing of MJ. I am attaching a link for those who missed it. You may be able to watch it on line. I am making no comments, but will leave the story to unfold and see what you think.
Another suggestion by Benjamin – my 11 year old – Try this for size…..The gold coffin with the seat like interior was designed so that a “living” Micheal Jacksin could attend his own memorial service. The huge bunch of flowers on the top hid an oxygen tank so that he could breath and the length of time for the service was determined by the amount of oxygen in the cylinder. Daft, but plausible!!!!!
Hey, you know what, it's more plausible than daft.
Previous comments about his friends who were mysteriously not at the memorial is strange. If someone of that stature passes and you are asked to attend a memorial, you would put everything on hold, pull out all the stops and turn up. No Oprah, no Liz Taylor just folk who had maybe met him once, if that. Catterwalling some tune out – some of it was terrible – it was dreadful.
And I still wonder what the hell they did with the coffin afterwards!!!! Is it like a kind of transformer and changed from a coffin into a set of matching suitcases. Carried out so no one noticed.
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/what-really-happened
The link to Channel 4's documentary about MJ.
Here's what I don't get. The Jackson were okay with helicopters flying above Forest Lawn the days before the memorial, the day of the memorial AND even let the helicopters follow the motorcade with the hearse to the staples center BUT would not let the coffin leave staples center being recorded? It's being “said” that the coffin was taken through the tunnels under the Staples center and loaded into an unmarked van and taken away. WHY?? YOU JUST LET EVERYBODY FILM YOU BRING IT THERE!! And seriously…who lends out their family crypt(reporting that MJ is temporarily being held inside the Berry Gordy family crypt) Which he has now denied. MJ IS MISSING!!!!
@ The Divine Mrs Jones – that last paragraph made me laugh! I could just imagine the coffin turning into a bunch of suitcases. OR MAYBE LATOYA WAS HIDING MJ IN HER DAMN HUGE HAT! (not seriously, but damn that hat needed it's own zipcode!)
“And I still wonder what the hell they did with the coffin afterwards!!!! Is it like a kind of transformer and changed from a coffin into a set of matching suitcases. Carried out so no one noticed.”
HAHAAHAH!!! Priceless!
And yes, I would have thought Liza, Liz, and several other closest friends would have been there. Dar nu! They couldn't be “bothered” to show. Foarte ciudat.
And what ejay5131 says makes us wonder too! The whole thing with the media is weird. Only ONE pic since MJ “died”? Come on, ONE! That's silly considering how many pics they get of everything else related to anyone famous or even a little bit famous.
This whole thing makes me mad that they think they can pull the wool over everyone's eyes. The fans aren't stupid! We have loved him for too long and scrutinized every physical detail about him through the years.
Bine, toată lumea l-am găsit un cântec, e adevărat Crazy unreleased de la Michiael Jackson, Se vorbeşte despre modul în care este "planificare" sa scape din "sistem" şi "presiuni" pe care le-a pentru a găsi un loc pentru a ascunde departe. (Thats ce spune el în melodia) numele a piesei este xscape (da, e de fapt ortografiate asa.
Dacă el a prefacut moartea sa, el este departe de presiuni, pe care le-a de a lăsa copiii în spatele lui, dacă acesta nu doresc oamenii să ştie că este "mort"). În cazul în care copiii sunt cu familia sa, el va vedea întotdeauna ei. Latoya spus, el nu a vrut să fac cele 50 de spectacole, care este, probabil, de ce acesta a fost un interpret la O2 conferinţă! It was him rehearsing in the video, if he's planning his get away, he has to cooperate, right? AEG asigurat pentru "supradoze"? De ce?
This song tells it all. OMG. It is not a old song. He is sining of how he wants to get away from the media, and just want to be in a place where he dosen`t need to hide from everyone. Where he can be himself. He is telling it all in this song. It can be more clear. Michael has “escaped” The pressure. He just wants to be in peace. I wonder whan he made this song, it can`t be that long ago. Doamne. Mabye he really is alive? I really hope so. I would make me smile again. I guess we just ahve to leave Michael alone. I just hopes that he is happy and in peace.
now this should answer everything something is wrong i think the women of the family are hiding michael he is alive and his brother and father have been using michael for his money jermaine is broke his brother jermaine said that the jackson 5 were goin to have a reunion but in an interview with michael he said he was never going to sing with them again so maybe latoya knows it was her brothers father and AEG in a plot and they are protecting michael right now in hiding till the truth comes out also new news that there is another will from 2007 he wrote a new will every 5 yrs now michael might have it or they do and they are goin to pull it out saying michael wanted his sister rebbie to mother his children and debbie and katherine have agree to keep joe out of the childrens life cause he is now tryin to get costody of the chikdren and he wants to make them the jackson 3 so the ploy thickins
http://www.lipstickalley.com/f227/jackson-family-fallout-exclusive-interview-manager-reveals-rift-over-funeral-192891/
la toya is now saying that there is a big conspiracy behind murder of mj. she is saying that $2 million are missing from his rented home when world believed him to be totally bankrupt.. she is also saying that mj was fed up of taking these drugs which some people were giving to him to keep him submissive. if it was truly there then why the family never protected mj out of all this. why they let him die and are now creating all this fuss and making autopsy over autopsy.
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This is LaToya's biiiiiiiiiiig chance to “shine”, to propel herself into center stage, but most importantly, make some monnnnnnney!
Her credibility equals Zero as she is insincere and phoney. when Michael was accused of Child molestation, it was LaToya who on national US television spoke out in support of the accusers and against her brother, I remember it well, does anybody else at all ? ? Shame shame on you big sista !
LaToya is a diva wanna-be, a sensationalist, an opportunist and extremist. Her only claim to fame is showing her coochie for a few bux to a trashrag like “Playboy Magazine” … and here, she suddenly has turned into and acts like Florence Nightingale ?
These rags she is talking to are paying her a nice dollar for the drama queen act she's just pulled off here, she makes me sick
Sister Janet who worked with Michael on videos is surprisingly hush hush, isn't she ? But then again,Jan had a good run in show business and has money and, all she showed was her nipple at the superbowl half-time show and called it “wardrobe malfunction”. Neither one of them has any lady-like qualities.
The more details emerge, the more ground the 'staged death' gains. These “interviews” are nothing but a mechanism to redirect attention to a new theory they are spinning, Murder … they stop at nothing to create sensationalism and seem to think we are all stupid or something ?
I pray that Michael is safe and secure. What must he be thinking …. ???
I'll tell you what Michaels thinking…True fans can NEVER be fooled!!
ejay, thank you for your reply, I think you are right, great answer
yes maybe michael is still alive. bt i dont think he did this. maybe a threat to him or he was kidnapped to get money? blahblah lol
I wonder if he's reading this???? Maybe scanning the internet to find what people are saying!!!! If so – Hi Michael.
What the heck is this????
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/090713/entertainment/centertainment_us_jackson
Divine Mrs. Jones: that not only the Jacksons and other parties, but MICHAEL HIMSElF might be reading the postings on this website occured to me too just today. I also thing the “staged death” concept is gaining traction around the internet, more and more ppl are blogging on different sites expressing their doubts that Michael “died” …
I am wondering about if anybody is controlling this and will at some point shut websites down who are exclusively dedicated to this hoax, what is your thought on this ?
ejay that was a tv reality show that the men of the family were tryin to start up before his death
or should i say his disaperance
Bloggers: have any of you seen this ? This is a “protocol” type order of occurences synopsis of the events surround Michael Jackon's death, take a look and check it out:
http://michaeljacksonnotdead.wordpress.com/2009/07/12/michael-is-still-alive-death-is-staged-its-a-hoax/#comment-3
Ok, I've read the Escape lyrics and seen the video on Youtube.
Now, seeing as we are all open to speculation and possibility. Try this for size…and remember this is just me voicing an opinion…I have listened to his press conference again at the O2 Arena in London from March this year. The person speaking at the podium did NOT sound like MJ, the voice was too deep for my liking. Now, just suppose for a moment that the “This is it” Tour title is actually relating to the fact that he's had enough and by July he be out and gone. The last time he'd be in London – July – Hummmmm!!!!!
Is he hiding in London? Was the talk at the press conference a metaphor for I'll be back, but you won't know it.
This thought has just sailed through my head…Here goes…If you want to hide a tree you put it in a forest. If you want to hide an apple you put it with other apples. If you want to hide a person you put them with people. OK…Here it is, just suppose that the people you were hiding with had relinquished all worldly goods and chattles…monks!!!! OR even a Amish community. It may sound silly, but if we are going down hoax road then we have to explore every possible avenue that leads from it, whether it seems daft or has a dead end.
As it used to say on the X Files – “The truth is out there”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhK1cKBut_o&feature=related
There is a series of Youtube videos about MJ's home movies. On the first one, at the end, he says he doesn't like to tour because – quote “I go through hell”
Maybe the thought of 50 shows was enough to start the ball rolling for the disappearing act. Not only the mounting debt to deal with, but being pushed by record comapnies etc to do the tour. It must be very hard work – and that's an understatement – to be consistently good, to be as viberant on day 50 as you were on day 1. Not an easy gig.
Hands up who believes in the “after life” No joke. I belong to a ghost hunting group – http://www.theorbwhisperers.com and our resident medium has something to say on the MJ subject. If you want to hear what it is I'll tell you. I do not want to offend anyone, because even I am a sceptic, but I do think I should allow for all possibilities that life – and death – has to offer. I you think that this will offend, I will gladly keep it to myself.
I have just watched a History Channel documentary called Cities of the Underworld, and in this episode it talked about a huge complex of tunnels cris-crossing the underneath of Los Angeles. There was once a subway that ran the length and breadth of LA, but it was closed in the post war period and the “land” was bought up by GM, closing the railways meant that people would have to buy cars…I can seen their point. My point is that maybe they have accessed some of these tunnels whilst building the stadium, and after the so called memorial, have ushered MJ away through them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cities_of_the_Underworld
Look at season 3 “Land of Manson”
You can google LA's underground railways as well.
http://www.reptilianagenda.com/research/r110199k.shtml
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Downtown 's+forgotten+tunnel-a011766237
http://www.westworld.com/~elson/larail/PE/tour.html
http://www.flickr.com/groups/lagroup/discuss/72157611913350533/
You have to allow for the fact that I am trying to come up with every plausible possibility as to how to “magic” someone away. The memorial was the smoke screen.
No, please share! This is a place for our individual opinions and thoughts. So far yours have been so insightful! I can't speak for anyone else on this page, but I would be interested to hear what you have to say.
And I really want to thank you for posting the link to the home movies. I had not seen that! I am going to watch all the segments now. So far I have watched the first and loved it!
As for the O2 conf, I tried to say that was Navi who was up there speaking and someone on here said it's not Navi, that Navi's voice is deeper than Michael's. Now you say you think the person's voice was too deep to be Michael. So you confirmed for me what I thought all along. Navi's voice is deeper, the person on stage has a deeper voice. We don't even need to continue on the physical differences of the two. They are clear to anyone who really looks.
“Mojofi Says:
July 13th, 2009 at 5:23 am
I KNOW that was MJ at the 02 confrence.
Navi has a deeper voice then MJ.”
Yeah, and uh….that's what we are saying….
that the person on stage has a deeper voice than MJ. Hence, why we think it is not MJ but his double.
As far as trying to “magic someone away” I still like the transformer casket turning into a set of luggage to be carried. I still laugh when I get a visual! This whole thing isn't funny, but the way you put it was. Hohot de râs!
I will first set out what Dave, our group medium told me. He said that when some one passes suddenly their spirit is in shock and does not realise that they have died. Dave has a “spirit guide” and has asked from time to time whether the guide can tell him if MJ is “in spirit” and, apparently the guide has told him no, not yet. Dave takes this to mean that he is still alive and has not yet passed.
I, on the other hand took a totally different tack, and being the EVP (electronic voice phenomena) queen of the group, I took my voice recorder and simply asked the question….”Is Michael Jackson really dead?” To which I got a quick response, a mans voice saying “No”
If I could find some way to put the voice recording on this site I would post it for you to hear.
Back to Dave for a moment. His spirit guide often helps him move spirits on into the “light” but it cannot find the spirit of MJ.
I am a sceptic, but there are those amongst us who feel that some spiritual comfort is required in times like these, and this is mine through Dave…Cheers Dave.
The “Ghost of Neverland” he says is not MJ…..Too soon, but the house has been standing for many years and has witnessed many families living there. The “ghost” is probably an old one, that has walked the halls and corridors for a long time. OR – my opinion – it's a reflection/shadow from outside. I would love to go with the group and investigate…Get some great EVP's from there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Am67-Sew7k
Da, am văzut asta. It was proven to be a crew person walking around in there and passed in front of a light. If you look through the window and the way the walls are on the outside, you can see there looks to be a room over in that area. It looked to me like the person was walking in that room and happened to pass in front of the window with sunlight shining through and the person's shadow was thrown out into the room. At least, that's what they are saying in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y3jlzS_BZc&feature=related
At about 2 minutes, it is clear and sharp. But I tell you what, I did get chills watching the original part in the first half again. Even after I knew they “debunked” the ghost story. Originally it was not as solid of an image so to speak. It was so transparent you almost don't see it. But when they show how it was not real, the image is more solid. I am a big skeptic as well. Then again, I am not so much a skeptic as I have to see it to believe it but I don't necessarily wanna see it! I am a big chicken so I guess it is easier to say oh, that stuff isn't real than to actually think about how I would react if I saw something paranormal.
I too have had friends who believe in spirit guides and they would totally agree with what both you and Dave are suggesting. These are things we can never truly know.
I just did a little poll on a website about do you think MJ faked his death and is still alive. After you vote you can see the results. Like 88% (or around there) voted yes!! After watching all of the home movie segments, I really hope he is still alive somewhere. He has the cutest personality I have ever seen. And to hear him giggle while watching the movies in his theater, I hope he is somewhere laughing again. The sweetest sound! Anyone who has not watched them really should. My favorite is the first one where he's all excited over the super soakers. Too cute!
Also an awesome part is where he is saying he hates touring and they are telling him they have to redo that part. He is so sweet to watch. I know this isn't the place to discuss the home movies and such, I just wanted to throw that out there. Pace!
Hi Divershay
I take on board everything that you have said, I to think that the home movies are fun to watch.
That was then, we have to concentrate on “the now” That entails all of us putting our collective heads together and coming up with a rational explanation as to where the devil he might be hiding.
On the Channel 4 documentary that I mentioned earlier, one man who knew the Jackson family well said that just before his latest tour “This is it” they had tried to get to Michael to spirit him away to “clean him up” This chap believes that MJ wanted out of the adiction spiral that he was in. His “insiders” who perpetuated the adiction kept the family from him.
The final rehearsal footage shows some strain on MJ's face, that could be because he has been out of the loop for so long, but it could equally be withdrawal symptoms kicking in!!!! To be honest, he looks like he's in pain, he had apparently suffered from back trouble for some years. Channel 4 also interviewed a doctor who specialised in helping “well known” drug addicts. He said that he thinks that MJ was NOT taking heroin, but he was having a medication usually given to patients who they want to keep in a coma. That could explain the theory that MJ IS in a coma and it has been said that he would not come out of it. This would kind of explain the “death” announcement, and the lack of a body.
MJ was not pleased about the fact that the tour had gone from 10 dates to 50. Ironically the dancers assigned to work with him were originally contracted for 2 years. Why so long if the tour was supposed to be ONLY 10 dates????? Makes you think what else the record company machine had up it's sleeve.
Just been looking at the supposed final photo from the ambulance – that photographer has made his annual earnings in one shot – anyway – I saved the picture and set it up so that I could rotate it for a better look.
Now, to me it seems like he is grimacing a little, his eyebrows are not relaxed, they are furrowed slightly just over his nose, the ventialation contraption in his mouth doesn't seem to be in his mouth, he mouth looks closed. The colour of his skin is that of someone who is relatively healthy. I've someone after a heart attack and they look grey/blue and their lips go blue as well. None of it adds up to a victim of a heart attack. Even the make-up that he wore looks fresh. If I were giving CPR to someone wearing make-up I am sure that it would smudge and they for a time would look a bit of a mess. And if they are supposedly giving CPR in the back of the ambulance why is the paramedics hand on his right shoulder and not his heart. And if he is supposed to have “died” at home, why bother giving CPR at all. They were there for about half an hour or so, if they couldn't get him back in that time thay should just have covered the body and taken him out quietly. I thought then, and still think now that it was a ploy to kick start the disappearance.
@ The Divine Mrs Jones – your posts make me happy! I, too, am a strong believer in the paranormal! I wish I was a part of a ghost hunting group, though. I tend to just wander on my own and do my own 'personal' ghost huntings, if you will.
As for MJ – I also believe that if his Family might be reading this website, it's almost quite possible he is reading it as well!
@divershay – I know, MJ is the sweetest person ever, isn't he? he is such a sweet soul, so gentle and fragile! He would never hurt a fly <3
ok take alook at this statement then i found a statement form dr.thome thome
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1615735/20090713/jackson_michael.jhtml
http://www.accesshollywood.com/michael-jackson/michael-jackson-adviser-dr-tohme-tohme-breaks-silence-to-talk-about-his-friend_article_20158
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31740617/ns/entertainment-music/#storyContinued
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31740617/ns/entertainment-music/page/2/now this guy makes me open my eyes on who jackson really was and that ppl were tryin to hurt him
http://www.flipkart.com/fade-black-douglas-b-jones/1436352738-uox3f42f2d is not the cheif that worked for michael?
Dear The Divine Mrs Jones
I really don't know if i should believe in what you say, even thought i truly want to……..
But i go a question,
if he's not dead than why is Latoya always saying that she knows who killed michael?????
if he was still alive wouldn't they simply be quite????? Not pushing too musch atention from the media?
if he was still alive shouldn't his kids by now be with me?
What about those updates where they say michael had needle marks in his neck, how would they make that up????
To bo honest as time goes by my hopes that michael is still alive keeps geting smaller. What proves that he's still alive????
Oricum,
Dear The Divine Mrs. Jones if it's true that you can hear taht voice and that Dave guy can't “see” spirits, i want to ask you one thing:
If he's still alive, is he alright?is he sick?is he safe? is he happy now?
I'm sorry but there's more than what meets the eye. To the administrator thanks for this site. When the imposter was at the press conference, not one time did the family step up and say “that's not Michael.” And don't tell me that the Jackson family doesn't know about all the hoax rumors going on saying that Michaek is alive, and yet still no response? Something isn't right.
And then they have Latoya coming out saying all this stuff about her brother being murdered and that millions dollars and costly jewelry were missing from his home. Now correct me if I'm wrong but how the hell would she know what was missing in his home? Can someone answer that?
Then she said his kids wanted to see their father when he died at the hospital and that his face was covered up with a towel. Ok, unless something changed over the years, someone who dies doesn't get covered until the medical examiner comes in and take the body and asks everyone in the room to leave. And since when they cover your face with a towel.
I agree with who ever said they're glad they Latoya isn't their sister. I feel the same way.
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1615735/20090713/jackson_michael.jhtml
Hope this opens up. Read it and see what you think. The Channel 4 documentary states that MJ did NOT know he was to do 50 gigs until it was too late. The tickets were printed and sold in a flash. AEG jumped on the financial bandwagon and this poor bloke had to turn up, perform and smile like a puppet. Well, it seems that the puppet cut the strings before the puppet masters could dictate the dance. I also think that Joe Jackson is quietly enjoting his new found fame.
Earlier someone mentioned the “Escape” song from the album “Invincible” I have checked out the lyrics and get this, in one line it says – quote -”Don't have a place to run, but there's no need to hide” And in another it says – quote -”Gotta get away (tell my Mother)I gotta get away” Is there a message in there somewhere. MJ's Mother hailed from Alabama I think…maybe there's family there who would take him in?????
In a BBC documentary about 4 years ago MJ was asked, while looking at a replica of an Egyptian sarcophagos that was covered in gold leaf – very elaborate – “Would you like to be buried in one of these” MJ ponders for a moment and answers “I'd like to live forever”
If you take the Peter Pan stories literally, and if you've read them, Peters friend was a girl called Wendy. Wendy grows up and Peter is the perpetual child, remaining in Neverland. He goes back to Wendy's house and is shocked to find that she is a woman, and has a daughter of her own. Peter wants Wendy to be his Mother. He has been searching for his Mother throughout the whole story. Peter returns to take Wendy's granddaughter Margaret back to Neverland to do the spring cleaning…When he remembers!!!!
Maybe the perpetual child that is Mj has returned to Neverland. Maybe the pull of the place that he loved so much was just too great for him to resist.
By the way. If “they” turn Neverland into a place of pilgrimage I will start taking prescription meds…LOL The audacity of it all.
The only good thing about Joe Jackson being on TV is that I can turn him off….LOL AGAIN
That was interresting. More proof that this so called “Death” Of Michael is a hoax
My youngest – Benjamin – the house philosopher – has just said to me “Why don't we give people like him their 'space'” You can only slice a loaf so many times before it runs out. He has a point. We, the “fans” should back down. Although we enjoy what the entertainer is providing us with, there is an aspect of their lives that you really would not swap. He couldn't enjoy being in a crowd without being swamped with well wishers. He couldn't go shopping without about 20 people with him. His kids couldn't go to a regular school because of who he is, imagine how much of that would effect you, and then think of how it effected him. I, personally, would want to run away.
If I found him, I would not tell any one where he was, I'd let him be. Knowing he was OK would be enough for me.
More profound stuff from Benjamin. He's been watching me type this….Got to go to school soon hun! He has just said….Could he be hiding out at Althorp Estate…Princess Dianas family home. He and she had a “relationship” that was based solely on friendship. Their parallel lives could only be understood by them. I have to allow him his say because he thinks outside the box, whixh is what we want. To understand a child, you have to think like one!!!!!! And where does a child supposedly feel safe….HOME…..
Mr/Mrs Administrator… May I ask the question, where abouts in the world are you situated. This time difference is giving me a head ache…You are 8 hours ahead of me. That means, where you are I have already had my job interview….Did I get it? LOL and, here's a thought…If you are 8 hours ahead you can get the lottery numbers for me before they have even been drawn…So whats next Saturday's winning 6 LOL AGAIN
In regard to the headache…sorry but don't think we can help with that…if we could fix it we would
Yes we are ahead of you, but want to keep our location to ourselves if that's ok…trying to keep the nasty non-believers at bay and deter them from banging on the door in the middle of the night with pitchforks and torches (we've had plenty of nasty messages from people such as this already believe me), but in regard to the lottery numbers, I've had enough trouble getting them right myself! Good luck with yours 
MJHD Admin
I can appreciate your need for anomimity. I really CANNOT understand why people would be so nasty to you. If they were followers of MJ and believed the things that he stood for, then this would not be happening to you.
Maybe I am being silly, but you know when you get a gut feeling about someone, and you can't shake it off!!! Well with regards to MJ's “death” it's not sitting right with me. I don't have the empty and hollow feeling I got when my parents died, or when my friend was murdered (her name was Caroline and she was beaten to death by a bus driver, who dumped her body) I knew she had gone before they found her because I felt physically sick….Now, if I am to use this as a guage, then I do firmly believe that he is still living because I don't feel anything like I have felt in the past. No hollow feeling, no sick feeling…..in fact, if I were truly honest, I feel elated…I feel that he is where he wants to be and that the “death” thing was a hoax.
I mentioned in an earlier posting that I had been studying the so called “last photo” of him, he doesn't look ill or dead. No palour, his face looks fairly relaxed, in fact he looks better in the back of the ambulance than I have seen him look recently. Hell, he looked better than I do this morning….I look like death warmed up. LOL….To end with a little black humour, my husbands late Grandmother – Hilda – used to say to us “I'm knocking on deaths door you know” (she was in her 90's) One day I said that he can't have been in because she was still with us, but went on to say 'What colour it was?', she never mentioned it again. Bless you Hilda LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv9lL-Lyu2A&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3sYg8fhNoI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miBfwWHSmb8&NR=1
The lyrics are very “telling” Take a listen…..
http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/07/14/michael-jackson-must-be-saved-from-ghoulish-fans-115875-21517930/
This page may disappear becuse it's today's Daily Mirror. Basically it's saying that MJ's body was kept in Berry Gory's family crypt until the police were satisfied that they had covered all avenues of enquiry. They cannot bury him yet – apparently!!!!! It says that thousands of fans have flocked to the crypt because word has just leaked out about it…..I heard about it last week, just after the so called funeral.
The coffin looks like an oversized jewellery box. It's a bit tacky…The man had more taste than this…..surely. I still think it's a transformer….Decept a coffin – transforms into Posh Spices matching luggage.LOL
OK…I have just watched the footage of the helicopter taking the “body” to a waiting van…
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/showbiz/2009/06/25/von.jackson.body.transport.kabc?iref=videosearch
Dead bodies weigh a ton….no matter how large. they just lifted this one without much effort….were was the rigour mortice???? He should have been as stiff as a board, not flopping around Hummmmmmmmmm!!!!!
It doesn't appear to me to be a dead body on the trolley….way too thin…It's just a shape, not like a dead person at all. Strange stuff, I am more convinced the more I read and look into it that it is a hoax. Some one commented that his new album was going to be called “Resurrection” co-incidence!!!!
That turned out to be a lie. That Gary dude said so himself
Sorry “BelovedMJ” What turned out to be a lie. I've put so many comments on that I am not sure which one you are referring to.
Ok, back to rigor mortis….I am now an expert in the field. Now, depending on temperatures etc Rigor Mortis can set in as early as 10 minutes post mortem, up to about 2 hours…Full Rigor is reached at about 12 hours and it can last around 72 hours, or 3 days. Quoting About.com, they say that “Rapid cooling can inhibit the onset of Rigor Mortis” If my memory serves me well, the day that MJ died it was about 33 degrees – give or take, it was HOT – Rigor would not be inhibited. After death the skeletal muscles contract and are unable to relax, hence the body becoming as stiff as a board, heavy and unable to bend. Now, it's the word BEND that is the magic one. Even if someone moved the body in the helicopter, if they were dead as long as MJ was supposed to be, it could not have been bent, if you watch the footage closely when the body is wheeled over to the van, the two men inside just lift the body from one trolley to another it looks like the body bends at the knees!!! Maybe it's just my imagination, but take a look and see if see what I saw.
My kids watched the helicopter footage earlier and passed this comment. Considering who the body was supposed to be, and considering the whole episode was being filmed, they did not treat the body with any dignity and unceremoniously dumped it from one trolley to another inside the back of the van. Knowing that the eyes of the world would be watching you would have thought that the men involved at this point would have, at the very least, proceeded with a little more reverence.
I wonder? Is this why they keep postponing the custody hearing for his children?
To The Divine Mrs. Jones: Your children are very observant, and you are right,(in my own words
) it does seem as if the men are just dumping and passing along a “rag doll” to each other. It even looks as “the body” when being handed down from the helicopter as if the head bumps onto the gurney?
“It doesn't appear to me to be a dead body on the trolley….way too thin…It's just a shape, not like a dead person at all.” you are right about that! It looks as if they are carrying a stick or something. Now, I think Michael was a thin man but too be as thin as it appeared to have been there? I just don't know!
I also have a friend who states to be able to perceive when someone's spirit has passed along and she like your friend does not feel in any way MJ's spirit to have passed??? I do think that if he is with us, he needs time to get himself together, and get well. I can only imagine all the pressures he must have had, poor soul!
I am not trying to sound crazy or anything but I do think that both Michael and his family need our prayers!!! Dumnezeu să binecuvânteze
Michael will come back to us, and face the public when he is READY! That is for sure. But he needs time. I just hope he is at some place recocering, from all the shitty things the media did to him, and all the false alligations. My heart is with Michael. I always believed in him, and NEVER once misunderstood him. I just hope that he will get the spark back in his eyes, wivh he havent had for a very long time, and mabye he will smile again soon. I really hope so. I love him so much
dear Divine Mrs Jones i totally and completly agree with you that,”If I found him, I would not tell any one where he was, I'd let him be. Knowing he was OK would be enough for me” . bcuz even after knowing what mj has been thru and if people still disclose about his whereabouts or pics then they have to be money and publicity hounding wolves.
Avem cu toţii de acord că nu-l!!!! Aruncati o privire, un adevarat bine!! Especially at the eyebrows.
24 de ore înainte:
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Ambulanta foto:
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Uită-te la forma în eyebrows. The "ambulanţă MJ" a eyebrows care merge spre dreapta la podul nasul. De "repetiţie MJ" are ca scop eyebrows mult mai departe în (există o mare diferenţă între ei). De eyebrows sunt, de asemenea, arcuit diferit. Singurul mod de a eyebrows putea răspunde mai aproape de podul de la nas este dacă el a fost "împingea sprâncenele lui împreună" ca şi cum am făcut atunci când s-au suparat (Nu-mi pot imagina de nume descriptiv pentru că, chiar acum.)
It's 8.30 in the morning here and I have to get Benjamin to school…The older offspring is sick….It is Benjamins last week at this school and the kids are giving a concert with solo performances. For weeks now (even before MJ's death) he had been practicing drumming to “Beat IT” His final performance, he said is, for MJ. Ahhhh!!! Benjamin is very sensitive and feels things really deeply. He often tells me that he does not believe for one minute that MJ is dead. My kids and I are best friends.
Going back to the “sensitive” theme for a moment…Dave the medium often asks his “spirit guide” about MJ and the guide comes back with a poitive “NO” Not passed yet.
On the forum of this site someone mentioned “remote viewing” which was used by the powers that be during the Cold War under the title “Stargate” It apparently worked. The government used RV because they found out that the Russians were using psychics to find locations of missiles etc. From what I have read it seems that the RV actually worked.
I am a skeptic, but, as I have said before, I am open to all possibilities. I have lost too many family members and friends to think that there is “nothing” on the “other side” Now, the theory behind RV is that you lie comfortably some where clear you mind and wait for things to happen…You begin to see images that, at first, seem hazy, but do become clear after a while…The other thing is that you need…or so it seems…is specific geographic coordinates…that's not too hard. Pick a place you think a person will be, find the coordinates and concentrate on those….again the theory is that you can see what is happening in that place, watch the proceedings as the happen. You can see them but they cannot see you.
The mind is a very powerful tool, we do not fully understand how it works, but if the mind is “energy” then there is no reason to suppose that it cannot be sent elsewhere.
REad this about RV and tell me what you think!!!!Got to go to school now….We're late.
http://www.fas.org/irp/program/collect/stargate.htm
Just been talking star signs in the car on the way to school with Benjamin…Ben is an Aquarius, as is my husband. The older one, Adam is a Virgo and I am a Taurus.
I was trying to explain the characteristics behind each sign to Ben. Aquarians have a thirst for knowledge, Taurians are slow to temper (which he said was not true in my case – hummmm!) And Virgo's were perfectionists…That sums Adam up to a tee.
Now, Ben said if MJ is a Virgo – which he is – then wouldn't he make sure – absolutely – that his “disappearance” would be planned and timed down to the last nano second.
Virgo's make lists, then they make lists of those lists, and so on. They like order and they like to be in control of that order. MJ will have planned and devised his escape down to the last detail.
I think – personal opinion oly folks – that he has said “Right, enoughs enough, I'm off” Despite having numerous people around him I do not think for one minute he trusted them completely and that they only kept quiet decause of water tight contracts that they had to sign. After all, he was their BOSS. He paid their wages, the piper calls the tune so to speak.
Over the years the British Royals have had advisers, suggesting ideas to the reigning monarchs. Ideas for their own ends – I think so. MJ had “advixers” who suggested ideas to MJ. I think that he has said to them that he is going, they can do nothing about it because of the contracts. Were the contracts binding after death, unlikely, because I think MJ thought that he would go on forever, so he wouldn't need to add that into an agreement. Why hasn't someone from the entourage come forward – post death – and spilled the beans about all that they knew…The could make oodles of cash selling the story to the media. It's because he's not dead. They are still contractually bound.
Hrană spirituală.
Sorry about the spelling. I am trying to wax lyrical by typing in a small space. It's like Shakespear trying to write a play while sitting in a match box LOL
I have just been washing the breakfast dishes, and while I was doing so I had a profound thought…Not again I hear you cry! LOL
Lets go deep and spiritual for one minute. MJ's very being, his songs and his credo were that people would learn to get along because they have a common bond. They're all human…
I am typing away at my computer everyday, passing on ideas and snippets of information to all who subscribe to this site, I don't know you, you don't know me. That, to us, doesn't matter, we have our common bond – MJ. Whether we are black or white, abled or disabled…that hasn't entered into it, what has, is our regard for the welfare of a “fellow human” who has been through hell to bring us joy, and has had only brief glimspes himeself of that joy that he brought to others.
Thank you MJ for introducing me to some of the nicest, kindest people on the planet.
(Wipes a tear from her eye) I love you all.
VERY TRUE Divine Mrs Jones .INDEED TRUE.
now tmz is coming with another one. it says the two docs( murray and klein) arent coperating with the police deptt though earlier they were. the bodyguards and the driver of mj are saying that when mj used to come out of klein's clinic he used to be in sedated condition. he said he talked to mj about it and mj would deny about the drugged condition. i was reading another site which said that yesterday only a suicide note was found in mj's clothes after 25 days of his death.. i am really not getting whats going out there..
Now then….Another opinion of mine is about to be unveiled….I have just been talking to a lady whose daughter Mara went to junior school with my eldest son, Adam. Four years ago school had closed for the Easter break, and Mara happily played with her friends, right through to the Good Friday. On the Saturday morning her Mother went to wake her to go swimming and found that Mara had died in her sleep. As you can imagine the entire school, children, staff and parents were devastated that someone so young should have passed away. The point I am getting to is coming….The funeral took place about a week later and alot of us attended, it was heart breaking to see such a tiny coffin being attended by her Father and older Brother. I sobbed my heart out…..Mara's Mother told me today that she could not control her overwhelming feeling of inconsolable grief at the funeral and virtually had to be carried into the church. She went on to say that the empty feeling that you get when you lose a child is one that can never be filled. The void it creates is vast and bottomless.
Michael Jacksons Mother must be made of steel…If I were her and one of my babies had died, I do not think that I could be that composed.
When my Mother died I just about held it together, but the emptiness is still there, I do not think that I will ever truly get over her dying.
Were the emotions displayed at the Memorial Service “controlled” or were they the true one's because they knew that MJ was still living….I think that it was the latter.
Benjamin wanted to ask why the youngest boy “Blanket” was carrying a Michael Jackson doll? Odd, carrying an effigy of one's parent!!!!!
He is quite right, I have watched the Memorial Service again, and there it is…white arm gauntlet, socks and all. He went on to add that he would not want a doll of me or his Dad, because – quote – “It would be toooooo creepy Mum”
I have just finished listening to the speech that MJ made in Oxford University in 2001. I think that it's the longest I have ever heard him speak at one time, and because of the audience, he was allowed to speak without interuption – a rare thing I think.
To hear him talk passionately about the plight of “The Child” “Lost Childhood” and his own up bringing was a pleasure.
He came across as well read, intelligent and lucid…Not at all what we are supposed to believe in the 'media' He was absolutely sure about what he was saying and didn't stumble through the speech – a daunting thing for anyone – let alone him.
Hat's off to MJ Well Done!!!!!
Now, listening to him speak there and then going back to the O2 Arena press conference. Can this really be the same person???? Struggling to speak – I know that the crowd were noisy and he couldn't get a word in edgewise, but – and it's a BIG BUT – what happened to the lucidity, what happened to the speech maker. What happened to MJ??????
I think you are right. I really hope that our sweet Michael is still alive. Infact I am praying to God every night, asking him to keep Michael safe. Sper ca el este de ascultare. And i will agree with you on the part, where you are talking about Michael`s mother. I wouldent be ablt to keep myself together if i just lost my baby. NOWAY in hell i could have done that, the way she did it. It seems weird. And i wanna know aswell why Blanket had a doll of his beloved father. Hmmm. Am i sounding nuts here?
Hi there MyBelovedMJ,
I don't think you sound nuts…You, like the rest of us are entitled to your opinion, however far fetched it might sound….Sometimes the most bizarre thoughts and ideas are the ones that bear fruit.
The idea behind this website is to dig, and dig deep into the “strange” events surrounding the supoosed death of MJ….Thank you for the website Mr/Mrs Administrator – Great Job!!!…..We, the fans, have to ask ourselves -Is MJ dead? Do we believe he's dead? The answer is an emphatic NO. No, he didn't die in LA on June 25th. NO, it was not his body being transported by helicopter. NO, there was not a body in the casket at the Memorial. Way too many NO's and not enough YES'S…We must, as a group, keep digging, spying, prying and theorising as to what happened. Who it is that are keeping the secrets of his actual whereabouts, and, if we ever discover the truth, are bound by a deep loyalty, to keep the truth safe.
In other words, if we find him, we keep it to ourselves.
On a personal note. I am the same age as MJ, just 4 months between our birthdays, I'm April 29th and he is Auguat 29th….I have sung and danced to the JAckon 5, the Jacksons and MJ himself. MJ's birthday was on the calander of my friends and I, once mine had elapsed they knew how long they would have to wait until his was here.
I grew up with him, I can follow the path of my life and it's events by the songs he sung…I hear one and say “Yes, that's when Karen and I got thrown off a dance floor for being too physical while dancing, and taking over the whole space” LOL at the memory…must phone Karen and ask if she remembers!!!!
We all share personal moments with MJ, and the thought of him not being there for the duration of OUR lives is unthinkable. It's like losing a member of your family…
Finally….I do believe, most definately that he is still ALIVE and that he has gone into hiding. I'd run away if I couldn't go from A to B without being mobbed. I'd run away if I were being hounded about my life style and behaviour. All MJ ever wanted was the unity of man, to stop man's inhumanity to man and to be himself.
Nuff said…..
Keep searching, leave no stone unturned, no corner un-srutinised, no matter haw many dead ends…let's keep looking…As I said before in a previous posting…Just like the X Files…The truth is out there.
Yeah I said this last week “However, I do NOT think it was really MJ at the press conference. The chin, smile, moves, etc. MJ would not get up there and talk the way this guy did. He sounded like an idiot. MJ was/is very well spoken in front of the camera. Look at any of his interviews.”
This speech at Oxford just proves my point. He sounded educated and practiced. The guy at O2-IDIOT! If that really was MJ then I hate to say it, but I am sorry to be offensive. But I just do not feel it was. Nu se poate!
To The Divine missJones. Mulţumesc
. And iI totally agree with you, If people should ever find Michael, keep it to yourself, dont even tell your dog or your cat. Leave him alone, he deserves that. OH GOD, i keep on praying, and have faith. Im sure he is ourthere somewhere. It was a hard day for me yeasterday, as you will see if you look at the 1st page. Thank you again, for giving me my hope back of him beeing alive. I cant imangine my life without him. Who is gonna heal the world if he is gone?
Bună tuturor,
The latest head I that caught my eye today was that MJ could not have fathered his kids because he had been made sterile by all the beatings he had from Joe Jackson when he was a child!!!!
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2540231/Jackos-dad-beat-him-sterile.html
It strikes me that MJ's success was to impress his Father and to gain his respect. Perhaps thats why he strived to be the best he could…He IS the best he could be!!!!!
Bună ziua,
Someone elsewhere on this site pointed out that at the Memorial Service the children kept looking up at the roof of the building…Was MJ hiding up there?
Was it a big game that he planned with them and he told them to pretend to be upset, but all he wanted to do was to play a “prank” on everyone. Were they brought into his confidence to that extent…Knowing how loyal kids can be, I can quite believe it. And knowing MJ's passion for practial jokes, I can quite believe it. Did he say to them “I am going to be watching from the roof, so you will know that I'm around and don't be afraid because it's a game”
In the roofs of most large buildings such as theatre's and stadium's, there are gantries and walkways built in for maintenance purposes. Is it possible that they were told that he would be on one of them watching the “joke” play out, and not to worry…Is that who they were looking at?
On last thing…I had a meeting tonight and Dave the medium was there and he had this to say on the “ambulance” picture. Dave is a medic by the way….The aspirator was NOT in his mouth…No way. It didn't even cover the top lip….He should know!!!!
I'm just wondering if this were a murder trying to be covered up it would also take all this time and confusion to cover tracks if someone wanted him dead, Does anyone think this may be a murder?
I'm sorry ya'll but Michael would not pull this kind of thing on all of us. I know it's hard to accept but he doesn't have it in his heart to do something like that, he's really gone..they are just trying to cover up a murder
No, I do not think that he has been “Done in” – a victim of foul play – No, I think that he has been spirited away and the he has had the help of insiders.
And if I had the means, time and backing to look for him, I would start in the last place you would look for him. In other words – the least obvious!!!!!
On a lighter note, perhaps he's run away and joined the circus!!!!! Do you know what people????? That's not as silly as it first sounded….He said he liked slapstick comedy, he like Chaplin because of the pathos and the clown like way he acted….Hummmmmm!!!!!!
When does people stop with saying “Oh he woulden`t put us through this, or his kids” Im getting pretty sic sick of hearing that. Mabye Michael for the 1st time in his life needed to be selfish, and let me just say, that was about time. He needed a break away from all the pressure, and the media. He just wanted a normal life. Im sure that It broke his heart, that he had to do it, but in my opinion, i dont think he had no other choice, I think he really needed to rest. It could have been Michael at the roof upthere in stables center, noone knows, and yes they kept looking up. And do me another favour, stop saying to us that he is dead. Where is the prove?? Do you have any prove?? NOPE! Thats the problem you dont. Im not in denail, trust me. But I have questions like everyone else about this, and when i see the body, or a final prove that he is dead, I will have a completely breakdown, but i will have to learn to live with it, someday. Im sorry, just needed to get this off my chest. Ohh and 1 last thing. There is NOWAY that the family has been able to get Michaels “body” when the otopsy havent shown cause of death, I mean, that there is noway he could have been in that casket at the memoriel. That is all im gonna say
I've been reading all your comments and I am quite impressed by what I have read. I do believe that the person at the press conference was not Michael. It is my strong belief. I have watch about as much footage as possible of him speaking from youtube and videos posted around the web. That person in no way could have been Michael Jackson. He would have had to have had his entire mouth reconstructed, his voice and vocal patterns.
To be honest I believe that person to be a female impersonator. Watch again and watch the hand gesture where the person pushes the glasses up.
Anyway, I think he faked his death. I also think he's died, so I'm torn. But the bigger part of my heart thinks he's alive and sending messages to his fans and leaving clues to this fact. All the stories that have come out in the media are to throw people off. The stories in the beginning came too fast and then they slowed up. They are still coming, but not nearly as fast. However, the song snippet that was released the other day, I think that is a clue. In the song there is a clue. There are some saying this was a plan of Michael's in the making for many years to disappear so if it is, then why not let your fans know you are ok..I think the first clue was at the end of the memorial , I'm not sure exactly what it said but something like “know that I'm alive and ok.. ” or something like that…I agree with the person who posted.. if you see him don't tell anybody and don't acknowledge it's him. let him be. Michael likes disguises too, so it's possible, he could be standing next to you and you wouldn't even know it. Watch some of his home movies on youtube to find out more about his prankster side.
Mskaj:
I hope people will leave him alone if they should ever see him, and like you said, he can stand right next to us, without us even know. Im sure that the sentence: Im alive, an Im here forever. WAS a clear sign from Michael, if he had to fake his dead, Im sure that it broke his heart to to that to us, but the man is intelligent, he would leave us clues. Wich he have EVERYWHERE if you look closely. Michael`s true fans can NEVER bee fooled, he knew that. Watch the children like someone else said, why were they looking up all the time? He could have been there, trust me noone would know if he was. If you look at the memoriel once again, and listening to the song “will you be there” at the end of it, suddenly Michael was talking, you know the words he is saying. It totally freaked me out. But seriously it sounded like he was there. It didnt sound like something caught on tape. Now you can call me nuts, i really don`t care but the text was on the big screen behind the stage. And normally MIchael would said “Through my pain” But at the memoriel he said “Through my PainS” My heart stopped. I have been listening to that song everywhere, and that was the 1st time EVER that word was changed. I know its a small thing, but think about it, why suddenly change it? Another sign mabye? feel free to comment, and call me crazy, it wouldent be the 1st time. But im trying to find out what is going on. And I know for a fact, that if Michael is leaving us clues, its the smalle onces, nobody else would notice.
Im just gonna write something ive just saw, mabye you will understand then, why i keep believing, in tha fact that he might still be alive, and wont rest until i find the truth.
Dreams do come true, if you only wish hard enough.
You can have anything in life, if you will sacrifice everything else for it.
there's no way he would chnge his face.no way.come on now,what could he change on his face to make him not look like MJ?i dont think so.i think he really died.any where he goes he would be recognized.
Hmmmmnn.. Im lovin this site. No other person's death has had so much puzzle as that of MJ's..I mean the fact that his closest of friends were not at his Memorial, no public viewin (4sum1 internationally known like MJ) no final restin place as we speak..the very “emotionless” 911 call??( no panic/ commotion, no background sounds of any1 frantically tryin to save any1's life, d all too perfect curt response..the list goes on). Jus got off a http://www.michaeljacksonsightings.com site where some1 claims to have seen him in the UAE with a middle aged woman n 2 black guys(probably bodyguards) on the 6th of July. Sum of the jacksons have bin seen in the UAE especial Janet n Jermaine..Micheal left the US with a promise neva to return so i wont be at all surprised if he's startin a new life there, n interestinly, AEG is tellin us MJ has well over 200 unreleased songs..how sure are we that he wont be the one releasin these songs in the future?? Ha ha!! this is true life ” THRILLER” n who best can pull it off so well than the master of disguise/thrills himself…Dubai here i come!!
My good gracious LORD!!
if theres any1 that shuldnt be walkin around so carefree is MJ's Dad. Oh LORD, michael really went thru alot from him!!If MJ resurfaces today or in the future, dont think any1 wud prosecute him..hell no?? Wat evidence do U have? Did U see him dead? it could be anybody..did U see him buried?? How, where n wen wuz he buried??? I believe the authorities themselves are confused to sum point thats Y they havent come up with any substantial information yet. They shud get sum1 wit the “Horatio Cane” kick butt investigative attitude or sum1 with “Jack Bauer” interrogative techniques to grill sum truth outta their so called investigation.. With MJ!!..theres definitely neva a dull moment!!
Why on the 911 call didn't the person who called say it was Michael Jackson! Totally agree that the call was emotionless…shame on them! If it was genuine that is.
..2thumbs up to The Divine Mrs Jones..U keep the site rockin with ur in – depth theories..thanks Admin 4givin HOPE where theres none.The time difference calls 4alarm, guess i'l have to google search wat part of the world is 9:30 hours ahead..oh wow!!
IF he faked his death, do not tell me he is running arounf in the streats without disgueses. Hohot de râs. The man is intelligent, mabye he will come back or show him to us someday, but i can almost gurentee you that he will not walk the streets as himself these days anyway.
Dear MyBelovedMJ and all of you,
Lets stay focused people.
I know that we do not want to believe him dead, I frankly think that he is alive and kicking. I do not feel in my gut that he has died. Tears of anger and frustration, but not sorrow.
We are all entitled to our thoughts, ideas and opinions – the main reason for us coming together on this site is that we feel, deep down in our hearts, our souls even, that he is still living. Our main objective should be to keep this in mind and scrutinise every shred of news and evidence that comes our way….analyse it and point out discrepencies and log pile it until we have enough to “There you go, he is alive and we can prove it”
I also think that we should all promise eachother, that if, by some miracle, we come across him on our travels. We keep that information secret.
We are a great bunch of people who have come together because of one objective – MJ – “GROUP HUG”!!!!!
What do you say people??????
To Minimalany- Go to youtube. There are videos of Michael Jacksons private home movies of him showing him sitting in a makeup artist's chair getting made over as other people (one as an older white male and one as a young black male with a full beard and mustache) and he goes out and sits in public to watch people. Because if he went out as himself, people won't be themselves. So yes Michael can change the way he looks. I just wanted to point that out.
Not only did Michael's mother put up an excellent show of keeping it together, but she was videotaped at Target on June 26th buying sleeping bags and tents! What the hell is going on here? No one is that family has displayed an appropriate reaction to mj's 'death'. Not one. janet seemed emotional at the BET awards but shamone people! She was still AT the BET awards three days after his death. Wouldnt most of us still be hunkered down with our families and in deep mourning. And those kids at the memorial. No emotion at all. We;ve all been to funerals. Kids cry at funerals. The oldest is 14, old enough to be devastated that his dad is dead. He was the coolest of them all. Looked pretty bored to me.
Okey is this just me, or has anyone else noticed that, many pages are misseing from the web now. Many pages about “Michaels deaath” You know pages like this. They are gone, and some videos from his reherasel, are gone also.. What is happening here?? Someone in the jackson family has to know that we are on this site, talking about Michael, and then informs the rest of the family.. They have to keep remove things, to make it match their stories. Im I makeing any sence? Or am i going crazy here?
I agree about the missing information on many webpages. Stuff I read and saw a couple of weeks ago has disappeared from the net. I am trying to save as much stuff as I can to my computer and am storing it on an external hard drive.
Still no word (from the horses mouth I mean) from his close friends. They are toooooo quiet.
Benjamin suggested that he could be hiding on a yacht. Clever Ben!!!!!!
He had friends in the Middle East, Princes and Sheiks etc. All of them owning what they call “SuperYachts” You can live on one of these monsters for months. He could be happily sailing the 7 seas as we speak. No one would see him because of this, he wouldn't have to hide away. He could be himself for a while, gather his thoughts and plan the next move. Ben, your idea my love has substance to it….. We are all looking at airports etc when we should have perhaps looked at ports and dock areas…..It's a hummmmmmm!!!!!! moment.
Ben thinks outside the box and I do listen to him. His friends often think his is being illogical, but because of his lateral thinking he often has amazing ideas…Love you Ben. Nice one
MJ definitely wont be walkin around undisguised… accordin to the story he had sumtin like a veil on n had to lift it up wen he wuz comin off a boat. If MJ left the US, he definitely wont be usin the airports, so the sea is 1 sure way of gettin to anywhere he wuz goin.
I know sum1 who left England n got to his village, i mean his village by sea n he didnt travel in a ship either..he used yachts n boats, stopped at different ports n countries untill he got to his village which is on the coast. Besides there are pics of Mj dressed traditionally like an Arab with covered veil and all. MJ has left Neverland, his family n fame b4, i dont see Y he wudnt do it again, this time 4 gud..with all the piled up dept n wat wuz mummy Katherine buyin camp beds n tents4?? who is campin where?, not MJ's kids i guess
MJ's disguise is no news..at the memorial, his brother Marlon told a story of MJ bein disguised as an older black man with crooked teeth n Afro hair in a record store buyin piles of CDs but i guess if U know him, U know him..no matter the disguise.
…n come to think of it, elvis presley's daughter wuz said to be cruizin on sea wen the news of Mj's death broke..puttin 2 n 2 together. Who knows??
I think that the boat idea is a good one.
Lisa-Marie Presley enjoying a holiday crusing around would have headed for port and to the sevice. If we are to believe that they parted company on good terms, as he said, they have remained friends, she would have been there for sure. Odd, but some strange logic in there….Lets keep up the good work.
The British tabloids have been busy this week…First they said that MJ could not sire kids because his father had beaten him so badly that it caused damage. NOW, they are saying that he had his sperm frozen…It just gets better and better…
La
The Divine Mrs Jones
Yes I totally agree with you if anyone does find Michael by some miracle, the most important thing is not to tell anyone at all… Although we would all love to know he is alive, we must put Michael first at all times and protect him from those who may want to harm him… He needs to rest and get strong again before he can even think about his next move…
Okey Michale made this song a few years ago. ” A Place with no name” Im almost certain that this is THE main clue. He had purmission to make it from the one who made the song “a horse with no name” I just listen to Mjs song, he wrote the text himself. You should listen to that song. Seriously, if we can find that place with no name, we will find Michael. I have that song in my heard all the time now. If someone should come uo with an idea, of what that place could be, please say so. But lets all do him a favout. Lets not look for him or anything, let him be, it is enough for us, to know thet he is alive. This subject has also been posted in one of the Forums, and i listen to teh song. I feel like his telling us something. And the most spooky part is. It just “Jumped” out of the closet duddenly. Its not on a CD or a Singel, noone really knew about it, until some of it was released on Televesion. Ce crezi? Where is Michael`s place with no name?
Sorry for my bad spelling again. Im typing to fast. Hope you can read it anyway
Oh damn forgot something here. Someone in teh forum also mentioned, that when the perramedics arrived at the house, they were almost 100% sure that the BODY they took WAS NOT Michael. That can xplain, why they werent in a ruch. Okey, im sounding crazy, but im happy today havent been for a long time. You poeple in here and on teh forum, gave me hope with these informations. I think we will find the truth very soon. Sorry lol
come on,how long he would live like this-hiding and disguised?ppl know him everywhere.there's no way he would do that.i dont think so.plus who's body was for the autopsy if so?
I have just been thinking about the possible irrational behaviour of Mrs Katherine Jackson.
Is it a Mothers way of dealing with grief?
Is it a ruse to keep the press on their toes?
What on earth would a woman of nearly 80 years of age want to go camping for???
A soft warm bed and the comforts of home would be for me at that age, not camping !!!
I have been speaking to a friend of mine, Joe, who is a sea captain and is currently working off the coast of Africa. I asked him about sea fairing yachts and he said…To get from LA to Europe the yacht would more than likely have to sail around the bottom of South America…Not a wise choice because of the reputation of Cape Horn. One of the most trecherous parts of the ocean to sail in a large vessel, let alone a crusing yacht. He went on to say that it would possibly have sailed straight out into the Pacific and to one of the many islands. Stopping off to refuel. MJ could be dropped off at a predetermined point, or they could sail straight on to South East Asia…China, Japan possibly Australia. It is not unheard of the superyachts doing journeys like this. He has often, on his travels, been in radio contact with these kind of boats and he finished by saying that they could easily make that voyage without getting into too much difficulty.
Joe has emailed me back and says that the yacht could transit the Panama Canal, but it would have to book in ADVANCE before it used the canal. If this is the case, then the “trip” has been planned in advance.
http://www.pancanal.com/eng/photo/camera-java.html
The yacht could then sail on to the Atlantic and on to the Uk and Europe. With good whether it would take about 5 days approximately.
One last thought. Who from the MJ entourage is missing? He could not have done this by himself. He would have to travel with the bare minimum – we can assume that other items of clothing etc would be in place at appointed destinations – a passport and a small bag perhaps. He would have to have customs checks. In the UK customs officers are bound to have a confidentiality claus in their contracts. Her Majesties Government and all that. So, if they came across him, they would not be allowed to say. As I say, it's a thought.
Ben just pointed something out. If they are doing tests on MJ's body, why is it taking so long. If the authorities have the body, knowing who it is, you would think that they would have acted a bit quicker, giving closure to the case. Good point Ben.
You would think that they would have pulled out all the stops and gone the extra mile with this one, wouldn't you.
Agatha Christie “vanished” without a trace in the 1920's Check this out. There could be a parallel between that and MJ – just a thought.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/oct/15/books.booksnews
I am not saying that he has lost his memory, but the break down theory is plausible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIb9PFrmCT4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh7zcXOPeHk&feature=related
Take a look at these videos on youtube. It goes back to 2002, but the comments he made were “brave” to say the least. Taking on the establishment is not the easiest thing to do.
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/media/article2028494.ece
Could Sony have something to do with his disappearance? Could financial threats have been made? Nearly half a billion dollars in debt, and this on top would push any man over the edge.
http://www.sonymusic.co.uk/artists/michael_jackson/13730/
Sony now stand to make a fortune with MJ's “death”, it seems that in recent years they have been struggling and the MJ resurgence will in some way make up for that.
Take me to the place without no name.
http://video.aol.co.uk/video-detail/michael-jackson-take-me-to-a-place-whitout-no-name-full/3855448189
Now, does he mean a “PLACE without no name” or does he mean that he would have no name….You can take this both ways. It says “The Place” not a place. Meaning that the location is known. “Without no name” means anonimity.
Ce crezi?
“Life is beautiful”, MJ said its the greatest gift of all n Oh yeah! its the best gift given to man by God…i dnt see him diein…it puzzles me that the Queen of Talk hasnt really said anything 'bout the King of Pop, not even a visit to the Family…surely; Oprah isnt that heartless.. ??
I wonder if he checks this site out and thinks, “Hey, THEY – ARE – GOOD!!!” Maybe we have hit more positives than negatives.
Chin up everyone, give yourselves a big pat on the back for sticking with it.
Excellent work one and all.
I believe that a morale boost is needed from time to time.
MJ liked practical jokes, leaving clues behind, such an MJ thing to do.
By the way, the original song went – “I've been through the desert on a horse with no name” – is he hiding in a desert somewhere??????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0KKGdb4qUY&feature=PlayList&p=89D02F583A5B8172&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=4
You have to listen to the words – closely. It's sung by a band called America.
Odd choice of song, or maybe not.
Keep digging people.
To The devine MIss Jones!
I have been listening to the song. And you are right about that the clue thing is such a Michael thing to do. Im pretty sure he is reading this site. He knows what we are talking about. His also very proud of us i think, because we look for the facts, and with our hearts, and not believeing the media. I have also been wondering, Michael`s place with no name, is that a place he has, with no name, or is it a place he can be with no name? Hmmm. And one of the most importent things I have been wondering about. How did TMZ get that song? From a souce!! Yeah right, who is that souce? Noone else kneew about Michael makeing that song, It wasent recorded yet, and suddenly I jumps out of nowhere. Hmmmm. I would Like to know who the souce to TMZ is, i dont think they even know themselves. TMZ is a bullshit Television station, Michael could eassily give us clues through them, they would believe anything. Im just saying, everything is possible in this. But In my opinion, we are getting VERY close to know the trtuth. Like Michael would have said. ” The truth will prevail, and im about truth”
So, again I am torn between what I believe. Nothing I read makes sense. All the stories in the media are confusing and baffling. They are as baffling as the man himself. No two stories are the same. I just wanted to point out a couple of things that still make me wonder about whether he is still alive. There was a tribute to Michael in our paper right after he “died” in the New York Daily News. It was about the Apollo Theater and how the Jackson 5 won Amateur night. Well the last paragraph of this article stated that a few days before he died he and his children had “strolled anonymously through the streets of Harlem for a visit.” Now, if he was rehearsing a few days before he died in LA, how could he be strolling through the streets of Harlem? When I first read it, I didn't give it much thought, until after they released the pictures and the video of those final rehearsals at the Staples Center. So someone is lying.
I also have issue with his mother's behavior regarding contesting the adminstrator's of the will. That makes no sense. Who is giving her legal advice. Why, when it states there is a “no contest” clause in this will, would you even open up this issue and possibly disenherit yourself? I'm not sure I follow. Also, is there an updated will? Are you mounting a legal issue because you are stalling? Same with custody of the children. Is this a stall tactic? I ask for two reasons. Are these stall tactics because he's not really dead, and to actually have any issues of the will and the children be decided in a court of law could bring about real legal charges? Did Michael appoint his longtime trusted friends because he knew they wouldn't really allow this to go forward?
Another point, there is supposedly a security video from the house the morning he died. This tape has disappeared. What is on the tape? Who knew it existed? Who removed it? Also, all the people who worked there were fired. None of these people have spoken out. Janet and 8 moving vans showed up the next day to remove Michael's belongings. But they didn't remove any of the drugs that the police found 2 days later. I don't get that.
I have another questions. Everytime you saw a video of Michael leaving his doctor's office or out in public he was covered from the top of his head to the bottom of his feet almost. Or he was in a wheelchair (mostly in tabloid pictures). But, you would see him at parties uncovered. So how do we know if the person covered up was Michael? Were we being duped? Was the person leaving the doctor's office Michael? There are pictures of Michael at parties, at a lupus fundraiser a few months ago uncovered. Wouldn't he wear his mask out in public?
I agree about the song. I think it means something. I thought that from the beginning. I wasn't sure what it meant. I don't know all the lyrics, but that was my first thought.
Okey, i listen to the song called ” A horse with no name” We all know Michael got the purmission to use the melody from that song right? But he wrote his own words. I got a feeeling, and i got the chills when i heard it. Now im gonna say something, and then feel free to call me what you want its just a feeling. But suddenly i remembered something. Its a small thing, but anyway.
Can Michael be in Saudi Arabia or Barahin? I mean, he lived there for a few years before he want back to teh states. The reason i though of this is because they are sining, og being in a desert, on a horse with no name.. That desert could be one of these places i just mentionned, and the “horse” can be a castle. think about it, Michael knows people there. Am i makeing any sence? I got the chills for some reason, I dunno why
I was thinking about the song again and if there may be some meaning behind it, so if you all could just bear with me for a moment and put on your thinking caps, we may be on to something or at least headed in the right direction.
I started typing into my web browser “place with no name”. Well of course Michael Jackson's name popped up as the search result for several hundred pages. I kept going through them. So I moved on to typing in Bahrain and the meaning behind the name, and cities and towns in the Middle East. Then i went back to “place with no name”. I came up with an interesting article from the Telegraph.uk ( I will post a link to the article). It made me think about the fact that Michael was in Ireland maybe a couple of years ago, maybe not so long ago with Will.i.am recording music. I went to google and checked the distance between Scotland and Ireland and it's about 9 hours I am assuming from the capital of both cities. So I am asking if this could be a clue? So I don't think the idea is that far fetched that the song itself is a clue. as far as this article states about a place with no name.
Read the article and tell me what you think…
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/736455/A-place-with-no-name.html
I'm sorry.. one more thing.. From watching the videos of Michael's concerts from overseas, he did tour through Dublin in Ireland back in 1997. So he would have probably seen some of this countryside I would think.
Now it is….
Ok I am going rewrite everything I just wrote and lost, but I am going to submit it in bits, so please bear with me.
MJ's lyrics
She said don't you worry my friend,
I'll take care,
Take my hand,
I'll take you there.
Oooh! Take me to the place without no name.
Take me to the place without no name.
She said don't you worry my friend,
I'll take care,
Take my hand,
I'll take you there.
Americas lyrics…
On the first part of the journey
I was looking at all the life
There were plants and birds and rocks and things
There was sand and hills and rings
The first thing I met was a fly with a buzz
And the sky with no clouds
The heat was hot and the ground was dry
But the air was full of sound
Ive been through the desert on a horse with no name
It felt good to be out of the rain
In the desert you can remember your name
cause there aint no one for to give you no pain
La, la …
After two days in the desert sun
My skin began to turn red
After three days in the desert fun
I was looking at a river bed
And the story it told of a river that flowed
Made me sad to think it was dead
You see Ive been through the desert on a horse with no name
It felt good to be out of the rain
In the desert you can remember your name
cause there aint no one for to give you no pain
La, la …
After nine days I let the horse run free
cause the desert had turned to sea
There were plants and birds and rocks and things
There was sand and hills and rings
The ocean is a desert with its life underground
And a perfect disguise above
Under the cities lies a heart made of ground
But the humans will give no love
You see Ive been through the desert on a horse with no name
It felt good to be out of the rain
In the desert you can remember your name
cause there aint no one for to give you no pain
Right, now to business.
The desert and yacht theory work for me. Who looks twice at the crew of a boat…Everyone stares in awe at the glamorous airline pilot. Air travellers are watched, but the crew of a boat….swabbing decks, not glamorous. He could have sneaked off a boat disguised as a crewman with out anyone giving him a second glance. Grow a beard, rough looking clothes…Whose going to pay attention.
I am on a roller here.
Now, the song. MJ's version….strange from the man who likes to tell stories with his music, sending out messages was his stock in trade. Messages about war, povety, cruelty and mans inhumanity to man. The MJ version is about 5 lines long and is repetetive. Have another listen and look at the lyrics I transcribed. WHO is the SHE who will hold his hand??? And who is the SHE who will take him THERE????
All his songs have messages, there is no reason th think that this does not, because it repeats itself is possibly meaning, I am going to tell you and tell you until you get the message.
Yeah you are right, he is singing that. Who is that women?? Oricine?
I think the women is LIzz Taylor
Hi MyBelovedMJ and everyone,
Greetings from a wet, rainy and miserable North Wales…..I won't the whether deter me. I shall press on regardless.
Someone on this site mentioned that Liz Taylor had her bags packed ready to go to London to see Michael in concert at the O2 Arena. She said that she had been ready 3 weeks before the concert dates….What on earth for? Does she pack that much that it takes 3 weeks to get ready. Her Twittering back and forth with the doctor about a painting, a Matisse I think….Very expensive and a much sort after artist….Get it.
Lets be hyperthetical for one moment….Here goes.
Mj decides he wants out….This is too much for him.
It is something he has planned in the back of his mind for the last few years…Because of having kids, he wants them to be normal…As normal as humanly possible, having a father like him.
He trusts Liz Taylor absolutely….He tells her everything. All his plans and ideas.
Liz Taylor gets the ball rolling, using a series of codes to MJ's doctor about a painting.
The painting refers to MJ.
Transportation is arranged, a yacht and finally some road vehicle….Not a plane. Too obvious.
Mj is spirited away either the night before or the morning of the supposed heart attack….One of MJ's doctors disappears aslo.
Doctors, as we all know, are bound by the Hypocratic oath and part of that states that they “Have to preserve life” They are also bound by patient confidentiality!!!!
The doctor gets MJ from the house, perhaps disguised as a nurse or a staff member.
They go in an un-assuming vehicle to the port where everything is ready. Get on board ship and wait for 48/72 hours.
While we are concentrating on the media stories, fans flocking to Neverland, the house in LA and any other MJ related place, they will not ne at the harbour.
The boat quietly slips away and sails down the coast, through the Panama Canal and out into the Caribbean Sea.
It only takes a few days to get to the UK. Slipping off the boat as a crew man, he could have gone in a car to a safe location for a few days.
Now, the next part. If he were going back to the Middle East he could have gone on one of the many private jets that the Arab Princes have dotted all over the world.
Or, the boat has continued on to Europe or through to the Mediterranean Sea and docked in somewhere close to where he needs to be, jump in a car – again dressed like a crew member. Bingo!!!! The plan has worked.
Michael, if you can read this…..Do you know what!!!!
You are an OK guy.
You were pushed up the mountain, not time to admire the view. You were left on the top to fend for yourself. Now, enjoy the “stroll” down the other side. Take in the views and breath the fresh air. Enjoy the life you deserve.
Find some inner peace.
A policeman friend of mine once said “If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's a duck” I said “If it's a parrot trained to quack like a duck, and act like a duck, is it a parrot or a duck”
What I mean to say is this…If we are told something often enough, we start to believe it.
Sceneario!!!!!
Ladies and gentlemen may I introduce Mr Michael Jackson – The crowd pushes and shoves – they cheer – the room is full of noise. Camera flashes are going off. The “man” is trying to speak. The crowd is now part of the mass hysteria and frenzy caused by the appearance of the superstar.
Now, remember what I said about the parrot.
The crowd are so blinded by the ferver of the moment that they can't see the wood for the trees. They are told it's MJ when it could be Nigel, an IT expert from Nottingham who has been primed, coached and trained to replace Mj for events such as this.
We have to stay focused and grounded. There are so many smoke screens that we have to wade through that the going is hard. But we can do it people.
I love this site!!!!!!
I think that we have all made friends here, thanks Admin!!! You have attracted a real nice bunch of people. Well done!!!!
http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/celebrity/Michael+Jackson-10518.html
http://www.prlog.org/10280371-was-working-with-star-on-africa-gig-says-irish-surgeon.html
http://www.maximum-jackson.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=9590
I'm all Googled out
Take a look at these.
Hi MyBeloved and The Divine Mrs Jones-
Remember that MJ's version that was released to the public was just the chorus of the song. So there has to be more. Someone looped it over and over. It was reported that it was a “snippet” of the song. Which to me sounds like a clue. So keep digging for the rest of the clues.
Just found this on MJ's fanclub website: http://www.mjfanclub.net
(21-7-2009) The body of Michael Jackson is temporarily interred in a basement at Forest Lawn Memorial Park and Mortuary in Los Angeles (USA). His family is reportedly still agonizing over the decision of where he will finally be laid to rest.
A source close to the family says: “They [still] haven't decided,” but adds that the entertainer's family might be one step closer to an agreement.
Katherine Jackson had previously objected to making Neverland Valley Ranch Michael's final resting place because “She thinks it's a place of horrible memories. She says that Michael wouldn't want to be there.” However, she has since softened her opinion, according to the source.
“Katherine is still opposed to Michael being buried at Neverland, but would relent if it could be arranged for Michael's children to gain ownership of the property. If they could have complete ownership, Katherine would approve.”
How this may play out continues to be seen as there is currently a majority state in the property held by private investors. The source cites that there could be possible income should Neverland become like Graceland, the Memphis home of Elvis Presley.
wow!!
Quite right about the song being only a snippet……If that is the chorus line, then we can speculate as to the rest of it.
Now with an Ireland theme going on….Try this for size
http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/celebrity/Michael+Jackson-10518.html
http://www.prlog.org/10280371-was-working-with-star-on-africa-gig-says-irish-surgeon.html
http://www.maximum-jackson.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=9590
Another test…Too many kids using up my broadband
http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/celebrity/Michael+Jackson-10518.html
Read this
http://www.prlog.org/10280371-was-working-with-star-on-africa-gig-says-irish-surgeon.html
Now read this
Sum of my friends n I were talkin 'bout the stunts Mj had pulled in the past n we all laughed to our heart's content, the mere thought that he cud be sumwhere watchin these events unfold made us laugh even harder…Phew!! He takes my breath away!!
Now read this – I had to copy and paste.
I was working with star on Africa gig says Irish surgeon
The Irish cosmetic surgeon who counted Michael Jackson as a close friend has revealed the star planned to hold a major charity concert in Africa.
PRLog (Press Release) – Jul 12, 2009 – Plastic surgeon to the stars Patrick Treacy, who was a friend of the pop idol for many years, paid tribute to the late star.
And he revealed that his friend had cared deeply about the plight of others, despite his misunderstood and lonely life.
He said: “Michael was largely misunderstood by the world.
“He was the perfect embodiment of the rags-to-riches story, where celebrity took him from gifted musical child to global superstar.
“Unfortunately, it also took him to another place of loneliness, continual lawsuits and being surrounded by problems like failed plastic surgery.”
The founder of Ailesbury Clinic had only recently enlisted Jackson's help in raising aid for African orphans and the pair were planning a concert.
Empatie
He said: “We talked many times about the problems of the world, and like myself he had a close empathy with Africa and the problems of that continent.
“In many ways there was a similarity between them, both resourceful yet impoverished, both exploited by the unsympathetic greed of the white man, both at times facing into an abyss largely beyond their making.”
The pair had planned to hold a concert to highlight the problem and raise badly needed money for medical treatment.
He said: “Michael promised to bring me back down to Africa and had found a large place to do a concert in Rwanda, and in doing so try to heal some of the problems of HIV and the other horrendous diseases, which ravished that beautiful land.
“I felt his gentle words and tender smile were in some way also helping himself.
“Michael promised me at the time that he would fly me over on his private plane to meet Nelson Mandela, whose son would have been doing the organising on the ground.
“It could have been fantastic if it had come off.”
Patrick first got to know the American star after he returned from years of working in war-torn areas around the world and set up his cosmetic surgery clinic in Dublin.
He soon developed a reputation for pioneering medical techniques and soon attracted star clients, including Jackson.
He said: “I see a lot of celebrities and I do know half of Hollywood, but as a doctor it wouldn't be right to talk about my patients.”
This summer will see the Ailesbury Clinic going global with a rollout of 24 clinics in destinations as diverse as New York, London and Moscow.
- Tom Prendeville
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http://www.maximum-jackson.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=9590
Now read this comment on a forum I found.
Do you think that a previous comment about the place with no name could be Ireland.?????
I remember bawlin my eyes out throughout the memorial, i cudnt even talk 'bout MJ without bein emotional 4days. im not surprised to see this Pics of Blanket with tears in his eyes, Yes he cried, but it might be becuz he misses his dad not becuz his dad is dead. More interestin is this report that Blanket thinks his Dad is on Holiday, didnt Jermaine n Latoya say that a therapist advised that the Kids should see their Father n they did see him after he wuz pronounced dead. Why wud Blanket think the same Dad is on Holiday after bein told hes dead.. maybe we shud ask Blanket..lol
Was Mj planning more surgery with the good Irish doctor? Had the doctor told him stories about Ireland and Irish folk tales?
Why would he be in County Cork on “personal business”? House hunting eh!!!!!
A bolt hole more like. A place where he can be himself and liaise with the doctor maybe. I suspect that the locals would close ranks and not divulge whether he had a place there or not.
In part of the “Living with Michael Jackson” interview with Martin Bashir they were shopping in Las Vegas. Bashir commented that he had no room in Neverland for all the stuff he was buying and MJ answered that it was for his other home??????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZdBNtC5iUA&feature=related
It's at about 5.50 minutes in.
I made up my mind that Mj wuz alive after seein that NAVI guy on TV at the 02 memorial in London, i wuz so shocked that i sat up immediately from the couch i wuz layin on. Men!! that guy cud pass 4 MJ anytime at anywhere.
Jermaine wuz caught off guard n made it more obvious by referin to MJ in the present tense in his early interviews with Larry King, Janet even pushed it further by sayin “to U Michael IS a star, to us HE IS family” at the BET awards…more interestinly is paris sayin “i jus want to say, i LOVE him so much”..shudnt she have said “i loved him so much”?? C'mon, these ppl are homeschooled.. dont tell me they dont know the application of these words.
….ni dont think MJ wud leave clues or traces jus yet, i mean they have not even buried his supposed “corpse” na lot of ppl who know him have said hes more intelligent than we think he is. Who knows?? He might be on this site readin wat his Fans think 'bout.
Mskajd. I found more clues.
That thingy you linked Paranoidozzy, I believe its bullshit.
How can you not know where to burry your baby?
I still dont believe he is dead. Just funny the fanclub is writing that, they seems to be the only ones who know where Michels body is. Hes family dosent even know lol
Lest i 4get, ADMIN U did a great job on the site…Keep it up. 2 thumbs up!!
Whoeva paraded as MJ since '06 did a gud job…
Hey, you guys made me remember a video on youtube of Will.i.am and Michael! Will.i.am was talking to access Hollywood or somebody and Michael was sitting right there in Ireland talking about “putting a jolt back into the music industry.” I'm at work, and can't really go find it right now, so I will have to do that later from home, but it was a really good interview. They were collaborating on something. Oh, wow! Getting good! While the drama in the US plays out about lawyers, and wills and autopsies.. etc.
Hey guys have you seen this linke?
I would lean more towards either Ireland or Scotland. There are some articles about Ireland out there from 2006 and 2007. Michael was trying to buy a home in Ireland back in 2007. Also the link from the Martin Brashir youtube video is correct that he made that statement he was buying antiques for his other home (he had already moved out of Neverland). He had a desire to purchase a castle in Ireland and always wanted to live there.
My story link was about a place in Scotland that at certain times of the year you can name the area because it has no name, so I didn't think I was quite that far off, maybe by about 8 hours. But I did remember that he had been in Ireland with Will.i.am. înregistrarea. The video is on youtube about them discussing putting a “jolt back into the music industry”. Haven't seen the jolt yet.
Hi Guys just you let you know Mike will be on ITV 1 on SUNDAY at 8P.M. UK Time.
Just in case you wanted to see it. Am yet to read more here and contribute but in the main time i thought i'lllet you guys know about this TV documentary.
Mulţumesc. Love you all and Mike of'cos
Anyone notice how natural a death the “death” of Michael Jackson hysteria died ??? All we are getting is teaspoon bite sized pieces of “legalities” … “Filler-in” media trick …
Joe Jackson's appearance with this “mouthpiece/frontman” on Larry King Live on CNN was a dog and pony show … although I am totally convinced that Larry King knew what he was up against in a hurry, Larry has been in the business way too long so as to not notice that he was being royally had by these 2 clowns who in all probabiliy crawled back under their respective rocks they live under …
What comforts me is this:
** Michael escaped the trenches of all that burdened him and the more time that elapses since his “death” on 6/25, the more his escape cements itself as TRUE … BE SAFE Michael
and enjoy life
** Joe Jackson is a primitive creature, substandard lying sack of s**t and will milk this “my-son-died” story until the cows come home and drop dead – BUT: ONE day he WILL find himself before the Judge of Judges where – after stearnly being told “Ok Joe, I am listening… talk” – there is NO escape and the very deamons who've controlled him all his life will be at the ready to escort him to this place: http://www.flairfordesign.com/hell.html where at best, there it NO air/conditioning ….
What is everbody else thinking at this point ?
There's that Ireland theme again!!!!!
I saw the youtube video about the meeting with Will.i.am and Mj….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__qpG0Wg-WI
Recording in Ireland, WHY Ireland!!! There are hundreds of studios in the states, why fly all that way to just hear how Will.i.am is proposing musically??????
You can tell it's nearly 2 am, I'm typing like a twit.
Now Ireland and the County Cork lead.
I am doing my family tree…I have traced my ancestors through my fathers side of the family back to c1550 Bedfordshire, England. My great grandmother Sarah Ellen Lawrence, was (before she married my great grandfather Frederick), Sarah Ellen Rooney from County Cork in Ireland. I have been longing to go and visit the place to see where she came from, visit grave yards etc, and trace my Irish ancestry through her line…Do you get where I'm going with this????
I could kill 2 birds with 1 stone and do a reccie of the place, ask questions etc. Once the locals realise I'm one of them, they may open up to me…..
How true this is I do not know.. ET Online is reporting that the “drugs that killed Michael” are being traced to Las Vegas.. Dr. Murray had a practice in Vegas. Joe Jackson lives in Vegas. Coincidenta?
Hmmm ...
Anyway…this link is to ET online, and the picture on the front page is about the concert that AEG bought the rights to for the rehearsals to air sometime in October. I just wanted to point out that I think Michael looked really, reallly, really HOT in those gold pants : )
http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/07/76651/index.html
Back to my boat theory for one moment….If MJ travelled from the US by boat, he could easily slip off the thing in Ireland. Not going to the Middle East as we first thought. This idea just gets more plausible the more I think about it.
MsKadiJ, Hi …..Hi Everyone.
I have just read the articles that you posted about the Las Vagas connection……Joe Jacksons full of the brown stuff.
On a recent Channel 4 documentry about MJ's final days the interviewer spoke to several people who knew MJ well and were concerned that the unscrupulous members of the MJ “camp” were manipulating MJ and had taken over his life. They also said that there were those who tried to get MJ off the pain killers….Even that MJ himself wanted off them.. One man said that MJ did NOT know he was to do more thab 10 concerts….It was the elements behind the scenes that pushed it up to 30+ and then 50. I think that this was his que to get out.
Apparently Joe Jackson doesn't even know where MJ's body is!!!!!!!!!
“Doh!!! Where did I leave that boy”??????? LOL
SAU
“I've lost something. Hang on a minute,,,,,,, got my keys, got my wallet…No, there's something else. Turned the srove off, put the cat out, put the garbage out. Got my coat….Still missing something…No, it's gone, can't remember. WAIT…Now I've got it….My production company paperwork. Thank God I remembered the important stuff?”
Sorry about that…But I have to see the funny side, otherwise I'd go nuts. And we must maintain a sense of humour.
Keep Smiling:)
The British TV show on Sunday is an interview with Uri Geller. Geller and MJ parted company after the Living with Michael Jackson fiasco of an interview.
Geller had suggested Bashir as the one to run with because he had interviewed Princess Diana in 1995. Bashir is jinxed…It seems that everyone he interviews who is in the public gaze dies within a few years.
Geller and MJ were not friends in the end, and MJ did not return phone calls to Geller. I honestly think that Geller has jumped on the financial band wagon by “sharing” his memories of Mj and apparently introducing previously unseen photos etc.
It is thought that Geller got paid for introducing Bashir to MJ…I can believe it as well. Geller, along with alot of the others is taking advantage of Jackson fever and is lining his pockets.
I went back to look at the video again with Will.i.am. Even though it was a couple of years ago. It seems rather odd now, but what was the jolt they were talking about? They guy interviewing them asked Michael about remixing Thriller and at that point, he had not decided to remix it, but it has been remixed now. So what was the jolt. Will.i.am said “what better person to put a jolt or inspire or aspire the young people today than the man who started all of this than the King of Pop himself.” What were they planning? Or what is going on right now the jolt? Something I have noticed is that since June 25th, a lot of people have gone nostalgice, including myself. We have revisited something we have forgotten as far as music is concerned. I know listening to Michael's music has made me remember what a great humanitarian he is. His music makes me want to go out and save the world, to get involved. All of his music in the later years were teaching us about lending a hand to one another and taking a look at ourselves. Music that reached down deep into your soul and made you stand up and take notice of your surroundings.
His song Cry on his invincible album has lyrics that he says “I can change the world, I can't do it by myself.” We have totally missed the point. I mean today's music is all about getting with this person and doing this to that person nothing with substance to it.
Ce sa întâmplat? Most songs all sound the same today. Where is the originaliity in music and artist today? Maybe that's the jolt. Nu ştiu.
Maybe The Divine Mrs Jones can kill those 2 birds with 1 stone.
Joe says he doesn't know where Michael's body is? He is too busy making plans for other things to bother with Michael. Here is a story from Msnbc.com:
Joe Jackson plans 80th birthday bash
If Joe Jackson's spate of recent interviews feels like a publicity tour, that might be because it is one. Michael Jackson's father is ramping up for his big 80th birthday bash scheduled for Aug. 22 in the Chicago suburb of Tinley Park.
He's throwing the party with his record label partner Marshall Thompson, who wrote on his MySpace page that the singer's father is well-known for his “popular birthday celebrations each year.”
If it seems like a strange way to work through grief, there is this: The celebration will double as a benefit for the new cultural center Jackson plans on building in Gary, Ind.
“I wanted to give back to the city of Gary,” Jackson said. He added that plans for the cultural center include a large hotel, restaurants, a memorabilia museum, a movie theater, a performing arts theater, and a recording studio.
However, representatives for the office of Gary's mayor, Rudy Clay, weren't aware of the big birthday party/fundraiser plans.
“The Jackson family is still grieving the loss of their son, like we all are,” a spokesman said. “We're always talking to the family, but there are no announcements to be made about fundraiser or the memorial.”
When it was pointed out that apparently Jackson and Thompson were apparently OK with making announcements, the mayor's office said they'd have to look into things further.
In the mean time, Jackson is in New York, scouting out locations for future fundraisers.
Read this page quick, before the newspaper removes it.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2548125/Michael-Jacksons-lovechild-on-front-row-at-funeral.html
In the pictures the boy looks a bit like MJ, but hey, don't his impersonators as well. In a tabloid last week it claimed that MJ could NOT father children because of the beatings he got from Joe Jackson as a child.
Refering to my last comment. And thinking a little more about it. The child looks as though he has been groomed to look like MJ.
Maybe MJ did have a one night stand as the paper suggests…He admitted himself that he was only human and not a god. The flesh is weak and all that…However, I do not think that the father is MJ…How about you guys??????
Perhaps he wanted children so bad that he was willing to believe that he was the boys child…
I'm talking rubbish again LOL
The end of the last sentence in the lasy posting should end with the word father….Silly me
I'm typing with 2 left hands tonight LOL
I have just heard on the BBC news that Dr Murray's place in Las Vagas has been raided by the police looking for MJ's medical records!!!!!
I think that the good doctor has cooked the books. He has 2 sets, one's for the real MJ and one's for the “body”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8163893.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8121209.stm
This has the Ahhh!!! factor…
I have just remembered something that Ben said today. He was showing his friend the helicopter footage and made this comment to me. The body in the helicopter looks “fatter and thick” than the one one the trolley being taken to the waiting van. “Mum, does that mean that Michael Jackson stayed on the helicopter and a fake body was taken off? Have they flown him somewhere else?”
I wandered why he would go to such lengths to achieve a get-a-way, but maybe this was the first leg of the journey.
Remember, he's 11 and makes all sorts of obvservations regarding our detective work. Some of them very good.
I have found the studio that MJ was in with Will.i.am in 2006
http://www.grouselodge.com/content.php?ID=1
This place is across the road from the studio…It looks beautiful…Proberbly where MJ stayed
http://www.coolatorehouse.ie/photogallery.htm
It is accommodation for the people using the studio. On the home page “someone” has commented that it is child friendly….Now, I wonder who that could have been.
For those of you who may have missed the link to the Will.i.am interview in Ireland…Here it is again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__qpG0Wg-WI
One of the UK's famous – or should I say – infamous – tabloids is running with the Son of MJ story…The headlines inplied that the 'son' was going to tell the truth about his father….
Making money out of the old man eh! Omar…..You and thousands of others…You should be ashamed of yourselves.
Am I talking to myself on here!!!!ROFL….
Now, I am in the kitchen ironing…I know, but someone has to do it. The TV is on and I'm watching MJ videos from the year dot up to present day…With me so far?
Regarding the so called son of MJ stories floating about…Somewhere I read that the 'son' has a cleft in his chin like his father……but, if you look back to videos from the late 70's and early 80's -WHERE IS MJ'S CLEFT???? He doesn't have one, they don't appear over night…My brother has one, he's 56 now and has had it since day one. MJ's has been 'manufactured' Said son of MJ cannot have inherited the thing because it's not in the genes….Get where I'm coming from people….
Any thoughts…
Watch the “She's out of my life” video and then have a look at “Rock with you” Then come forward 20 odd years and take a look at “In the closet” or “Who is it”….That dimple/cleft in his chin has been man made.
MyBelovedMJ
Do you think Miek will be coming out for the piblic to see him any time soon?
What do you think guys?
You are absolutely right THE DIVINE MRS JONES. Michael Jackson does not even look like the Michael Jackson we knew 30 years ago. Surgeries may alter the way we look, but can never alter our DNA. As for this Omer, his mother (a Norwegian) stalked MJ while on tour in Tunisa. She showcased her son to MJ, and MJ took on to this guy. He even moved the family to Neverland to work for him. As I mentioned it earlier in a previous post, if we want to compare anyone to MJ we have to compare them to the pre-surgeries Michael Jackson. This Omer might resemble MJ with all the make up and all, but does he look like MJ of the Thriller era, and the MJ of the Jackson 5 era. NU!!! Sorry Omer, we know you are trying hard to look like your idol, but you cannot take advantage of the person who gave you shelter and food. Show some gratitude at least.
To the Divine Mrs Jones: I read somewhere, I cannot remember where exactly, that Michael Jackson castrated himself to keep his boyish voice, could that be true? If so, then he could not have been able to father any of his “official” and non official children. The world knows his official children are not his biological children, but why are the tabloids claiming this Omer is MJ's son knowing that MJ can never father children?
To Divine miss JOnes.
I believe that storie is BS. Michael does NOT have a secret son, he would have taken care of him. That Boy, has admired Michael hes intire life, and He has been to Neverland, but thats all. What people wouldent do for “15 minutes of fame”
Christ its pathetic. That can really piss me off
I found something very interesting today. Mind you this story really has nothing to do with Michael, but was found under a search about truths and half-truths about Michael Jackson. Don't discount the story. At the end ask yourself this questions:
Who really died at the Holmby Hills Mansion? Here is the story
“Be careful of what you do 'cause the lie becomes the truth.”
- Michael Jackson
little something on the nature of celebrity, and identity.
“It is normal to give away a little of one's life in order not to lose it all.”
Albert Camus.
“Table for one, please.”
The maitre d' looks up from his diary at the two men standing in front of him. They are remarkably similar in appearance. Dressed in black, hair high and stiff with wax, artfully tousled. Very tall. Very pale. Almost translucent.
“For — one, sir?”
The taller of the two crooks his head.
“That's right. My friend here won't be staying. He just needs to use the rest room. If that's ok.”
The maitre d' blinks, and regards the two men for a moment. It's a quiet night. If he had any excuse, he would have lied to them, told them they were fully booked, that a table tonight was impossible. Their stillness and composure bother him at a primal level, beyond the rational.
But the room is half-empty tonight, and the receipts for the month are down. He does not have the luxury of lizard-brain instinct when his business is wobbling over a pit.
“Of course, sir. This way.”
The two men note the placement of the table (”a little close to the kitchen, don't you think?”) then move off to the rest room. The maitre d' quickly clears one place setting, and watches them as they walk away. They were disturbingly alike, yet each carried themselves in a completely different way. Side by side, they were easy to tell apart. Yet if one were to choose to impersonate the other, who could tell what mischief could be done?
It would end in tears, the maitre d' thinks. These two gentlemen are involved in games that can only end in tears.
The wash room is empty. The two men take up position, and for a minute there is only the sound of water on porcelain.
“Have you thought what you're going to do yet?” They stand at attention, facing the tiled wall ahead, not looking at each other as they speak.
"No. I thought something simple. Pasta, maybe. She likes pasta.”
“Mmm. Simplu. Bun. A couple of bottles of red, though. You know how she drinks when she's upset.”
"Da. Yes, I do.”
The taller man lets a puff of air out through his nose, a huff of something that could have been amusement.
“Have you thought what you're going to say yet?”
“The usual. It's not her, it's me. I can't be the man that she wants. I thought I might make up an affair.”
“Well, do what you must. Try not to be too cruel. I do still think highly of her.”
The other one looks over now, his grey eyes calm, analytical. “But not highly enough that you'll do this yourself.”
"No. No, I suppose you're right.”
They finish and zip up at the same time. The other one quickly washes his hands, then steps to the door. “Well, then. I'll be off.”
“Good luck.”
The other one looks quizzically at his companion. “The key?”
“Oh. Da. Of course.” He digs in his pocket, tosses over a single Yale, unadorned by any kind of key chain. “Will you be long, do you think?”
“I'll be done by the time you're onto coffee. See you soon.”
He nods, and the other one leaves. He moves to the sink, and begins to slowly wash his hands.
Behind him, a cubicle flushes, and a short, dark man in a good suit comes out. He takes a place at the next sink. He glances over. Then again, a comedy double-take. He struggles for a moment with an inner dilemma, and comes to a conclusion.
“Excuse me,” he says. “I hope you don't mind, this is a bit of an awkward place but — you're Calum Fry, aren't you?”
He allows his shoulders to droop for a moment, then straightens, and fixes the stranger with a cool, grey gaze.
“Yes, that's right. Hello.”
“Oh. Wow. Erm, hello. I'ma fan, well, my wife, she's a really big fan, and, well, blimey, wait till I tell her who I met in the bogs!”
“It'll be quite a story.”
The stranger brays out an abrupt laugh. Then something comes to him, and the smile drops away.
“Wait a minute, though. Aren't you playing tonight? In Hammersmith? That's a bit of a bus ride from here, Calum.”
“Yes, it is. So it's just as well I went on ten minutes ago.”
Silence, as the little stranger soaks up the meaning.
“Then that guy you were talking to, sorry, I didn't mean to listen, but I couldn't really help it…”
“Is a split, yes. I have two. For busy moments in the schedule.”
“Oh.” A quiet, wondering sound. “I know a lot of the celebs have them now, keep the paps off their back, means they can do loads of parties, but I never thought someone like you…”
“You'd be surprised.”
“Right. Yeah, I think I am. Calum, I hope you don't mind — is it expensive?”
“Very.”
“Does it hurt?”
And Calum Fry looks at the reflection in the mirror, and has to think before he can reply.
“Hard to tell yet.”
And he flicks his cold, grey gaze onto the smaller man, who flinches back at its coldness. At its inhumanity.
“Right, well, nice to meet you, I won't take up any more of your time, good luck tonight! With erm, everything.”
And he's backing away even as he says that, and he's almost running as he goes through the washroom door.
Calum Fry turns back to the sink. With a soapy finger, he draws a circle on the mirror. Then another, intersecting it shallowly. Then a third, forming a kind of loose inverted triangle. He looks at the tiny rounded section in the middle. The fraction that was untouched, unsullied.
Festival season was coming up, and he was booked so solidly that his management were talking about a fourth split. Another circle, and the bit in the middle gets smaller.
Somewhere under a bridge, Calum gently plucks a guitar and sings a song about a girl he used to know. Somewhere near a park, Calum stirs a pot of simmering farfalle while a girl sips wine and chatters about her day. He waits for the right moment to interrupt her.
In a restaurant, Calum looks at the three dots tattooed onto the web between the thumb and forefinger of his right hand, and tries to remember whether that means he is the original or not.
And he finds he can no longer look into the mirror, for the face that he finds there is not one that he properly recognises.
Michael did things to shock us, to keep himself in the spotlight good or bad, janet did the same.
Did everyone forget that janet willingly exposed her breast on national tv on a superbowl for gods sake on a sunday which is considered a holy day as well.
So obviously the jackson have the ability to do things that other stars wouldnt. Justin was there as to cushion the blow and take some blame.
Now i cant tell if that is michael at the london con but his left hand had bruising on it, he did look good but his legs where incredibly skinny.
At the memorial paris had no tears and her behavior along with his son just gave it away, blanket looked confused not sad. NOW watch the part right before paris speaks and janet is about to adjust the mic, LOOK AT JANETS FACE and her lips, watch her lic her lips. She was licking her chops becuase she knows hes alive and its working. AT the end it said IM alive, no sh!t sherlock.
Also speaking of songs besides xscape listen to jam and watch ghost, read jams lyrics and watch the cryptic message in ghost which is michael versus the media.
some jam lyrics.
I Have To Find My Peace Cuz
No One Seems To Let Me Be
False Prophets Cry Of Doom
What Are The Possibilities
I Told My Brother
There'll Be Problems,
Times And Tears For Fears,
It Ain't Too Much Stuff
It Ain't
Don't You
It Ain't Too Much For Me To jam(dissapear)
The World Keeps Changing
Rearranging Minds
And Thoughts
Predictions Fly Of Doom
The Baby Boom
Has Come Of Age
We'll Work It Out
I Told My Brothers
Salut tuturor,
I love the story. How apt. It validates in literacy what we deem to be the truth in reality….And every story has a grain of truth about it. All tales have an element of real life, snippets taken from here and there.
The character in the story has lost touch with his real self and has doubts as to who he really is. He cannot make the relationship with the girl last because she may discover the truth about him and his doubles. He frightens the man who sees him in the bathroom, the man has witnessed something that he shouldn't have, the man has had a peak through the veil of deceit.
I sometimes wonder why MJ did not want his kids to look into mirrors. Was it because they may one day see that they do not look like him, or perhaps he does not want them to begin the self loathing that he experiences. i read that a lot of the surgery was done because in the dim and distant past someone once said that MJ looked like his father. MJ took this to mean that he would “become” his father and the sub-conscious mind of MJ has geared him towards creating this “other self” How sad
What is it that we love about MJ?
Is it him, the music, the little boy lost. Each and everyone of us has taken something from him, and returned with our loyalty and love. What is it about him that makes us so devoted????
Personally, it is because he has always been there, throughout my life. Although we are the same age, I feel like I did when I lost Benjamin in a shop oneday when he was about 5 or 6. Sick and anxious to hear news that he was OK. Why do I feel that about a person I have never met? May never meet. I cannot explain it. There is something spiritual about the feeling and it is as though something from my soul has gone. How strange!!!
Dave the medium said this to me….
MJ thinks and writes on a “higher” level. The music and words come from his very being, his soul. Crying out to be heard and understood. Speaking up for those who have no voice, and betrayed by those who have no conscience. Used for gain by those who are amoral and manipulated by those who seek to ridicule publically.
The words he writes are stories from his heart. An insight into his mind and thoughts. There is no time for being fanciful when all you perceive of the world is violence, hate and cruelty. Times of fun allow the soul time to heal from those perceptions. Not being judged by animals or children because their love is unconditional. Shunning “man” becuse the atrocities of the world are created by him. He has to be alone because no other person should REALLY see him feel the pain he feels and the sorrow he experiences in the deepest recesses of his heart. The world saddens him.
To understand him you have to understand what he writes, read it not with the mind, but with the heart. Feel the words, and the truth will reveal itself.
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