I de siste dagene, er flere nye utbygginger har kommet frem i lyset i favør av teorien om at Michael Jackson har iscenesatt sin egen død og dro av de største Hoax av århundret. Som vi allerede er klar, vil flere stemmer rundt hans "død" har åpnet våre øyne for at vi blir ikke fortalt hele historien.
Vi tror at hvis han virkelig var død da ville det bare vært en åpen og lukket kabinett. For eksempel: Michael Jackson ble funnet å ha gått bort hjemme fra CARDIAC arrest, 911 Emergency ble kalt, ble han plukket opp av paramedics og deretter Dessverre erklært død. Men som vi alle vet, var det ikke en åpen og lukket sak og det var altfor mange "merkelige" happenings og unexplained hendelser som fant sted den dagen han døde.
Vi har blitt fortalt at han fikk en fire timers medisinsk, hvor han gikk, for å gå videre med O2 Konserter i London. Vi har også hørt at natten før sin død ble han full av energi, satt på en fantastisk øvelse ytelse (som skjedde til å være video tapet ... hva et sammentreff) og deretter skjedde å dø av hjerteinfarkt neste dag.
Vi har hørt merkelige historier om hans "lege" som angivelig injisert i singer med Demerol en halvtime før han kollapset, som skjedde med "finne ham på hans seng, ikke ringer 911 til en halv time etter hans død, nektet å signere sin dødsattesten, og som forsvant stund etter ambulanse tok Jackson til sykehus.
Vi har sett filmen av Michael Jackson sittende opp i helikoptertur til likhuset, ingen tvil takke alle for å sette på en så stor "handle" og deretter si "jeg skal bli nå", som han var hjul inn i likhuset , deretter forkledd seg og gikk ut bakdøren.
Nå virker det, enda mer merkelige ting skjer, som plasserer vår Hoax teori som meget mulig. La oss dele noen punkter:
- Michael Jackson og Deborah Rowe under sitt ekteskap i 1996.
Det har blitt annonsert av Deborah Rowe, eks-kona til Michael Jackson, som sent star er ikke den biologiske faren til sine to barn. Deborah 'Debbie' Rowe, mor til Prince, 12 og Paris, 11, har snakket med henne "humbug ekteskap" til Jackson i sin første offentlige intervju med britiske tabloid avisen News of the World.
Rowe, som giftet seg med Jackson på Sheraton Hotel Sydney i november 1996, sa hun ble kunstig inseminated av en anonym giver og likened seg til en av fullblods Mares hun nå holder på hennes California ranch.
"Jeg var bare fartøyet. Det var ikke Michael's sperm, "Rowe fortalt News of the World. "Jeg fikk betalt for det, og jeg har flyttet på. Jeg vet jeg aldri vil se barna mine igjen. "Rowe avslørte hun og Thriller singer aldri hatt sex og ikke dele en seng i løpet av tre års ekteskap, beskriver union kun som et vennskap.
Rowe angivelig deretter holdt unna henne foreldrenes rettigheter til barn i bytte for en $ US 8.4 Millioner utbetalingen over ni år. Rowe sagt sin's var en hagle bryllup. "Han ønsket å late som om vi var en familie." Hun var 37 og gravid og han var 38.
Med dette opptak av Debbie Rowe, den legger til resten alle de skeptics som hevder at Michael Jackson 'ville aldri etappen sin egen død fordi han ikke ønsker å forlate sitt barn.
Hvorfor skulle han ikke når de selv ikke hans?
Dernest har vi bisarre opptreden av Michael Jackson far, Joe Jackson. Det ble notert på E! Online at: "På dette punktet, Joe Jackson vet mer om sin egen posten prosjektet enn hans sønns begravelse planer. Svært urovekkende.
- Michael Jackson far Joe Jackson og Al Sharpton på et senere Pressekonferanse
På BET Awards i Los Angeles et par netter siden, CNN's Don Lemon forsøkte å intervjue Joe Jackson om dødsfallet til hans sønn. Jackson besvart Lemon spørsmål med brå, detached svar bestått mic til hans talsperson og advokat, og deretter fremmet hans plateselskap.
Jackson's svar var merkelig rett utenfor bat: Lemon spør ham hvordan han gjør, og Jackson svarer, "flott, jeg gjør ganske bra", som virker som en merkelig ting å si når man har bare mistet en sønn. Han bytter tannhjul og sier: Det har vært veldig tøff. Husk at vi bare mistet den største stjerne i verden. "Hvilken synes underlig, ettersom det virket som en ganske frittliggende måte formuleringshjelpen ting.
Don Lemon deretter spør hvordan Janet Jackson og resten av familien er coping med nyheter om Michael død og Joe Jackson respons er dette
"De er alle bra, men jeg vil gjøre dette utsagnet ... dette er en virkelig god uttalelsen her, Marshall og jeg eier et plateselskap som heter Ranch Records", og viser stor entusiasme som han plugger den Record Label.
Enten han er bare en pengene-sulten hjerteløs drittsekk eller han er så sammensatt og bekymringsløse fordi han vet at hans sønn Michael er faktisk fortsatt i live. Eller kanskje det er begge deler!
Tredje, rapporter som ble gjort i april i år uttalt at en auksjon ble planlagt å selge av flere possesions tilhører Michael Jackson som var appart av Neverland Ranch Estate.
Elementer som amusements en skreddersydde hest trukket vogn, antikke bil kopier, kjente internasjonale utmerkelser, arkaden spillene, konsert costumes, Disneyana, hage statuary, møbler, faktisk (og ganske) grandiose oppføring porter til Neverland og Jackson's ikoniske hvitt jeweled hanske.
En del av inntektene av denne Auction ble sagt å være skal MusiCares, en veldedig av innspillingen Academy, men mesteparten av midlene som ble sagt å være å gå rett i lomma på King of Pop selv. Dette Auction ble kansellert av Jackson etter O2 Konserter i London -/md. Angivelig Michael Jackson hadde funnet en annen måte å generere litt ekstra penger for hans overgang til et nytt Media liv.
Med et liv som hevdet Depresjon, utstrakt bruk av Pain mordere, Gjeld anslås å være på arenaen på NOK 400 millioner, stadig hounded av fans og media, og presset for å levere på 50 spektakulære konserter i en alder av 50, hvorfor ville ikke du vurderer muligheten for falsk din egen død for å nyte et fredelig liv på en øy et sted med ingenting å bekymre seg?
Vi har merket her at de av dere som er ikke-troende er å opprettholde at Michael Jackson ville aldri være i stand til å trekke dette av, som han er for å kjenne igjen, eller ville aldri gjøre det til sin fans, men vi ønsker å si våkne folk.
Hvis noen gang var det noen på forsiden av planeten som ville ha mulighet til å dra av en Death Hoax med tilgang til massevis av penger gjemt unna offshore, transport når og hvor han ville gå, ansatte som ville gjøre noe for ham, og det motiv å ønsker å forlate sitt sirkus av et liv ... det er definitivt Michael Jackson.
Han kan nå være "død" til oss alle, men han er helt fysisk live .... sted.
2 juli 2009 på 2:17
Så mye som jeg vil tro han er i live, er det én ting dvs bry meg .. Hvorfor skulle familien sette kroppen på offentlige vise om han stil live. die hard fans vil kanskje kunne se om det ikke var ham, men en lookalike. ville de ikke?
2 juli 2009 på 6:25
Godt sagt.
Min personlige teori er at Michael Jackson er levende og sparker, men ikke gjemme seg ut med "Tupac og Elvis".
Michael Jackson gjør dette slags dritt, starter rykter om sover i en hyperbaric chamber og kjøpe restene av elefant mann. Alt er en fasade.
Næh. Jeg tror noen memorial konsert på O2 vil fremstå og Michael vil avdekke selv, gå på med showet, og presenterer seg selv som den største geni av dem alle.
Hvem kan slå av utsiktene til et comeback da han skulle komme tilbake fra "død"?
Ingen. Folk vil være forbanna, nødvendigvis, men det vil være størst.
Som en billett holder meg, men jeg kan bare bli håp.
Hvem vet ...
Keep up the good site.
2 juli 2009 på 7:28
The Jackson-familien har nettopp annonsert at det ikke vil være noen offentlig visning i Neverland ranch som tidligere rapportert, så det er lite håp om det, vil det kanskje være en offentlig minnesmerke i LA nok og jeg er ikke helt sikker på hva betyr. Vil det bli en visning eller ikke ..? hvis ikke det er noe rart om alt dette?!
3 juli 2009 at 1:24
Michael bror Jermaine sa at han så Michael kroppen ved sykehuset, og at han holdt seg togehter fordi Michael var fremdeles i live, for at hans ånd var her fortsatt, og kroppen var bare et skall .. det høres litt rart på meg .. Kanskje det er bare meg .. : S
3 juli 2009 at 7:22
jeg virkelig belieive han er i live ... kom igjen oppstandelse tur?? han er i live!
3 juli 2009 at 8:04
faktisk at Debbie Rowe Intervjuet ble påvist å være en forfalskning. Hun snakket til Radaronline om hva sannheten var, hun sa også for noen år siden at det er Michael Jackson's biologiske barn.
http://momsword.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2085:those-are-michael-jacksons-biological-kids&catid=1:latest-reviews&Itemid=50
Gjør jeg tror han er i live? Det er en sjanse. Og hvis han iscenesatt hans død og kom tilbake til konserten vil det være awesome ... men jeg tror ikke han er. Dessverre
og jeg møtte ham i person før. RIP MJ. Jeg ønsker og håper jeg er galt.
3 juli 2009 at 2:04
Jeg vil gjerne ikke mer enn at dette blir faktum. Jeg har elsket Michael Jackson for så lenge jeg kan huske og har følt at jeg mistet en veldig viktig medlem av familien min helt siden jeg hørte nyhetene.
Jeg bokmerkede nettstedet ditt her fordi jeg er veldig ivrige til å følge dine tanker om dette i de kommende ukene, vil du tjene gode poeng her.
Ville bare legge mine to cents
Jeg hørte på radioen i morges at medlemmer av familien har tilbudt å komme til London og sin konsert datoer for fans. Ville det ikke vært utrolig om i den første konserten en av dem gikk ut å synge Billie Jean som en hyllest til Michael og under dem synge sangen Michael kommer moonwalking inn på scenen, levende og godt.
Jeg vil være så glad.
Jeg håper og ønsker for dette til å være sant, at han forfalsket sin død, og vil komme ut av skjulested i noen måneder, men jeg vet ikke om jeg tror det er sant eller ikke ....
3 juli 2009 at 4:44
Han vil komme tilbake når musikken offisielt dør, som ikke bør for lenge nå ....
4 juli 2009 at 11:50
Brønnen meg n min sis HD pondered mye over den thot av MJ's såkalte døden til vi kom over denne siden .... gutta selv tror jeg dat han er i live, og den som er død er hans ser ut som ... selv da 1 i helikopteret ... dette er et stort opplegg som vi skrånende selv tenke ... og helt logisk ...
5 juli 2009 på 4:55
Først av alt, at Debbie Rowe historien er fake. Så kan la det være. Men det er faktisk enda bedre nyheter. Det betyr at mediene har fått så fanget opp i denne de selv mener noe annet før påvist annet. De mente den falske obdusere historie. Så det er mulig for Michael å trekke av en falsk død fordi mediene latches på alt. I hjertet mitt, jeg føler at det er noe som kommer til overflaten ved minnesmerke. Jeg kjenner som kan være ønsketenkning men måten folk involvere setning ting er rart å si det mildt. De holder å si sitt om fansen. Vel, et minnesmerke ikke bør alle om fans. Det bør være om Michael, ikke sant? Jermaine er for faen vedvarende om å ha Michaels kropp begravet på Neverland. Han sier det hva Michael ville ha ønsket. Sier han kan se på hva Michael ønsker. Vel, didnt Michael sier at han aldri ville gå tilbake til Neverland, så det er nesten som om Michael endret hans hode, og gav hans familie kjenner. Se, føles det som om de prøver å endre publikums negative bildet av Neverland. Hvis du har wathced Larry King Live, så har du sannsynligvis funnet selv elsker dette stedet. Jeg vet jeg har. Bare lytt til Jermaine når han snakker. Jeg vet at folk alltid si at jeg føler dem i ånden, når noen dør, men måten Jermaine sier det er interessant. Selv Miko kone sa det er som han hasn't venstre. Og jeg har ennå å se en tåre rulle ned Jermaine øyne. Han har hatt Rennende øyne, men ingen tårer. Men jeg håper ikke å fornærme noen ved å tilby mine tanker, men hvis du er på dette området, så du selv tror det er noe som skjer også. Beklager, dersom mine tanker lyd jumbled. Jeg har et sted å være i noen få, og jeg virkelig ønsket å forlate mine tanker om dette. Ha en lykkelig ferie mennesker. Remmeber, ikke tro på alt i media. Media knapt vet hva er sann eller usann selv.
5 juli 2009 på 11:09
Som jeg ikke forstår, i løpet av 2005 rettssak Advokat tenkte Jackson 'ville drepe seg "under utprøving
http://breakingnews.iol.ie/entertainment/lawyer-thought-jackson-would-kill-himself-during-trial-417409.html
I denne rapporten (på tv) vi lærer at MJ tok 7 smertestillende tabletter per dag.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T11jwiGBVDw&feature=related
(Jeg vet ikke hvilke konsekvenser disse stoffene på kroppen), kunne han performe som vi kan se på denne siste Final øvelse Video Released?
Hvorfor er det intervju med Dr. Conrad Robert Murray?
6 juli 2009 at 9:10
im afriad jeg dont enig med de siste opptakene av Michaels siste resultatene enten rutinen er identisk med historien World Tour har sett historien tur 12yrs siden så snart jeg så denne nye utgitt opptakene jeg hadde en følelse id sett det før, så jeg gjorde noen sammenligne og sett både biter av opptakene den nyeste og de dont care about us historie omvisning og overraskende for dans og sang sett er de samme han synger de ikke bryr seg om oss deretter u høre american tema fra historien deretter u høre en bil horn fra hun driver meg vilt sammen med sin marsjerende soldater så hvorfor beholde rutine identisk etter 12yr gap uten endringer?
7 juli 2009 at 2:22
Jeg håper virkelig dette er en spøk, Im halv ventet ham til å hoppe ut kisten i morgen og gjøre thriller eller noe.
Det bare ikke legge opp. Hvis han har forfalsket sin egen død er det helt genialt, og helt lykkes på mocking media som er så raske til å klinke til på en senstaional historie. Det minner meg om heydey av "Wacko Jacko" når rapportene sirkulert i avisene at Michael hadde kjøpt elefant mans bein, eller at han ville se ut som Liz Taylor, eller at han sov i en hyperbaric chamber. Noen av historiene omtalt i pressen er så motstridende nå sine vanskelig å vite hva du mener, den siste en i dag er at Michael skal være gravlagt uten hans hjerne!
Mener jeg har noen faktisk sett en dødsattesten? Kanskje minnefond vil holde svar
7 juli 2009 at 2:21
Jeg har ikke hørt noe om en dødsattesten. Jeg tror ikke han er død. Jeg vet at folk kan si at er respektløse, men jeg har bare en følelse av at han ikke. Det er altfor mange historier der ute på ulike nyheter stasjoner, inkludert Internett. De sier Michal Jackson var avhengige av smertestillende tabletter siden 1984. Jeg type er egentlig ganske utrolig, fordi noen ville minst kom ut år siden og sa han er avhengige av Pain Meds.
Familien ikke synes at all trist?
Spesielt Joe Jackson, WOW!
7 juli 2009 at 2:37
Hans mor Katherine ble sett shopping utgangspunktet en dag senere? Jeg kan ikke huske media noensinne viser et lik ble fløyet i luften for å bli plukket opp av coroners? Hvis han ble avhengige av narkotika i obdusere ville vist det eller om han døde av CARDIAC arrest det ville vært i åpen og lukket kabinett. De lar Janet i huset for å få Michael eiendeler omtrent en time senere? Og flytte lastebiler var det ganske raskt !!!!!
Og på O2 pressekonferanse, det var definitivt ikke Michael Jackson, også når han var wathcing for dansere for prøven av "Her er det" tur som ikke var ham, fordi Michael aldri chewed hans gom som denne fyren gjorde det! Han var blåser bobler? Gal! Den såkalte nye opptakene som ble vist. Jeg faktisk tror jeg sett at, som tilbake i 1996! Samme dans / musikk stil! Michael selv ser likt sammen med sin hair.They "Tenk å" ha en privat seremoni i morgen (tirsdag) på 8am. Så, Michael ikke skal være på offentlige minnesmerke! Jeg ærlig tror han ville bare gi sin musikalske karriere opp, fordi han ble psykisk ustabile på grunn av hvordan den offentlige behandlet ham og ingen barndommen, som kan påvirke noen. 911 anrop bare virker "Unreal" til meg! Og nå plutselig alle kommer ut "mørk" sier ja, Michael var avhengige av narkotika, jeg prøvde å få hjelp, men ingen ville høre? Det er crap! Jeg er sikker på at det ville av "lekket" ut år siden om narkotikamisbruk. AEG (det forsikringsselskapet) tok ut en politikk som dekkes Jackson's utilsiktet "død", inkludert en "overdoser", men ikke hvis han døde av naturlige årsaker. Så tilsynelatende han døde av en overdose demeoral eller foreskrevet medisiner? Det er så mange hull i historien. Men ingen betaler oppmerksomhet, de er buzy lytter / tro media (som er tull )!!!!
7 juli 2009 at 2:43
Bare min mening! Jeg vet han er der ute et sted, men ikke i Amerika! Jeg kan ikke klandre hime for å gjøre noe av dette, hvis jeg har rett. Han ble mishandlet så dårlig for så mange år. Den Hyperbaric chamber historien, Michael selv faktisk "lekket" som en.
Jeg vet ikke, det er bare rart!
7 juli 2009 at 4:29
Michael startet sin egen ryktene om hyperbaric chamber?
7 juli 2009 at 6:06
Hvorfor er det at vi kan se Michael vilje, og hans Childrens fødsel sertifikater, men ingen har brydd å se på dødsattesten? Vi er bare godta hva mediene forteller.
Jeg håper at noe skjer ved Memorial i dag, hvis ikke så vil jeg bare må akseptere at Michael Jackson er ikke noe mer. What bedre vei til kick off en World Tour enn ved å komme tilbake fra de døde og utfører på eget minnesmerke-når hele verden ser på!
8 juli 2009 at 1:02
Hvis ingenting skjer ved Memorial i dag, Jeg vil akseptere hans passerer også. Jeg kan ikke gå sinnssykt med dette. Men selv om det ikke skjer noe i dag, jeg vet i mitt hjerte noe er på gang. Alt er bare ikke å legge opp. Jeg ønsker ikke annet enn å komme tilbake til dette nettstedet og diskutere med dere hvordan vi alle skjønte hva som skjer. Det vil bryte hjertet mitt hvis jeg ikke får noen svar på dette. Jeg tror ikke han er død. Det er ikke avslag fordi jeg har mistet et familiemedlem før. Jeg vet grieving prosessen. Jeg vet det er noe som ikke legger opp. Min godhet ....
8 juli 2009 at 1:03
Du har rett. Hvorfor hasn't noen spørsmål døden sertifikat? Isnt det merkelig at ingen av legene ville registrere den?
8 juli 2009 at 10:03
Ingenting happent dag på memoriel. Folk var trist. Exept én ting, Paris, var den eneste som shoed følelser for sin far. Verken pris eller teppe gjorde. Virker litt rart. Men jeg tror at han er borte. Når jeg så Paris snakke til ham, og være så devasted afterwords, jeg bare visste det, rett der. Han er virkelig borte. Herregud. Jeg kunne ikke tro det, hjertet mitt bare stoppet opp, og rigth etter at den ble ødelagt. Jeg følte en stor helt i mine stomack, og jeg har vært Gråtingen nonstop siden. Hvorfor Michael, hvorfor ikke Joe Jackson? Jeg hater den mannen, for det han gjorde mot Michael
8 juli 2009 at 10:06
Men jeg vil gjerne vite om dødsattesten også, fordi hvis noen dosen `t registrere det, du er ikke død, på papiret. Jeg har håpet at vi fikk se Michael `s Body, men vi visste ikke
.
8 juli 2009 at 11:03
Noe er definitivt på gang, og noen vet noe. Jeg skrev i http://www.mjhoax.com og den går til World Internet Authority nettsted. Kanskje MJ ønsket å se om av falsk hans død hvor populær han var med hans tilhenger. Når i historien har vi noen gang hatt et verktøy som Internett for å måle hvor vellykket en er? Og jeg vedder på at han er i noen hemmelig sted ser i ærefrykt hvordan dette sirkuset blir mer og mer latterlig og ut av kontroll. Alt jeg vet er at jeg har "tilgang til alle områder"
9 juli 2009 at 12:11
Jeg mener at "memorial" bare virker "annerledes", hvis han virkelig var "død" hvorfor ikke de har casket åpen? Familien var egentlig ikke rive opp. Spesielt hans barn, så det var rart. Ingen på er avhør hvordan han "døde"?
De bare tar om "narkotika" og "hva som kommer til å skje med barn"? Etter Staples Center, er stanset på Hotel, mens likvogn gikk andre steder? Som seriøst ikke gir mening. Han supposely vært "død" for nesten 2 uker, hvordan kan du ikke vet hvor du skal begrave et familiemedlem. I tillegg, ingen vet hvor kroppen er i .... Den dødsattesten, tror jeg er falske, alle kan gjøre. Det er ikke signert av alle leger .. Det spiller ingen rolle om det er utsatt, en lege ville fortsatt signere certificxate.
Ting er ikke å legge opp, also Usher, var mer emosjonell da hans "egen" familie. Ja paris fikk emosjonelle etter at hun spilte med henne vesken stropper i ca 5 minutter. Da hun gjorde en 180, så snart hun gikk til mikrofonen. Den eldste sønnen ble tyggegummi som gal, han hadde ikke selv synes trist. Og de yngste gjorde noe, men stirrer .... Jeg tviler på om det var en kropp i kisten. Jeg tror han er en live.
Hvorfor har en "Privat" begravelse først, deretter overføre hans kropp til Staples Center, kan det av vært omvendt.
På slutten av memorial, det viste "Jeg er fortsatt i live" Huh? Ingen avhør noe, de er tro media!
9 juli 2009 at 5:35
Jeg må si etter ser at Memorial går jeg vet tror MJ er offisielt død.
Hans dødsårsak på dødsattesten er "utsatt" til resultatene fra de toksikologiske tester kommer tilbake.
Det er noen alvorlige spørsmål som du må stille deg selv -
1. Hvis MJ forfalsket sin egen død og hans familie vet hvordan kunne de vise slike følelser som de gjorde i går?
2. Det er ikke mulig Michael Jackson ville være borte fra sine barn, så hvis han er falsk det da han vil sende dem eller han vil gå tilbake til LA. Ingen far ville sette sine barn gjennom ildprøve for en memorial service og begravelse er det var falsk.
3. Jeg aksepterer det er noen mistenkelige ting om hvilke dont legge opp, men jeg føler det hele har nå gått for langt for ham å komme tilbake.
4. Talk of imposters eller decoys blir brukt, og troen på at det var ikke MJ i ambulanse foto-hvor mange av oss egentlig vet hva MJ egentlig ser ut, jeg mener uten å gjøre opp, tett opp?
9 juli 2009 at 7:11
Jeg tror ikke at Michael Jackson er død heller. Det er for mange stemmer i alt for å være sanne. Først av alt ... 911 ringer er svært rolig og hvis min arbeidsgiver var Michael Jackson og han var ikke puste, jeg ville være hysterisk på telefonen eller ville du minst kunne høre en følelse av press på stemmen min. Han aldri nevner at det er Michael Jackson, heller. Jeg vil. Nå har du lyst til å fortelle meg at en lege med erfaring vil være å forsøke å utføre HLR på en overflate som en myk seng? C'mon! Jeg har tatt mange HLR klasser og den aller første tingen de lære deg er å prøve å få kroppen på en hard overflate ... DR. måtte bli fortalt dette av 911 operatør? Latterlig! Og det var ikke som om han hadde vært i en ulykke, og kan ha hatt ødelagt bein, og det er grunnen til at han ikke hadde flyttet ham til gulvet! Også ... ingen av hans familie viser alle typer følelser om hans død. Jeg kan ikke tro det da jeg se videoer av dem. Ingen gråter eller noe. Når Matt Laurer intervjuet Jermaine på Neverland, han kunne ha hatt en tåre fra øyet, men det nesten synes som om han måtte tvinge det. Og han sa at han så Michael's Michael kroppen fordi han måtte og hans siste setningen var, sier han er svært mye i live. "(Han mente i hjertet til alle mennesker, eller det som ble sagt i den måte slik vi ville forstå det på den måten .
Jeg personlig tror ikke at mannen gir pressekonferansen i London var Michael Jackson. Han var bare så galt i hver vei ... utseendet, lyden hans mannerisms, selv veien han gikk. Du cannnot overbevise meg om at det var ham. Jeg er ikke sikker på hva betydningen av dette er og hvordan den er knyttet til hans død, men det er fortsatt veldig merkelig.
Det er flere stemmer ... det skulle i utgangspunktet være en offentlig visning, og som ikke skjedde. Ingen har sett kroppen. Selv når Elvis døde, var det et bilde av ham i kisten. Hvordan skal vi vite at Michael kroppen var selv i kisten i det hele tatt? Det kunne godt ha vært tom for alt vi vet. Og jeg er enig med personen her som sa at det er rart at familien har en privat memorial service på kirkegården før offentlige memorial service. Nå er vi høre at Michael ikke selv skal buriend i kirkegård i det hele tatt.
Jeg vil tro hvis noen hadde sett kroppen hans, men jeg finner ikke noe på at et sted på internett.
Jeg vet at jeg er ustrukturert, så jeg skal logge av foreløpig og ser hva som utvikler seg.
9 juli 2009 at 12:00
Jeg er nysgjerrig mht hvor bosy har gått! Jeg trodde at det skulle en midlertidig grav i Skog gressplener, men ifølge media ingen dro tilbake dit etter memorial service .... Virker litt merkelig for dem å gjøre det hvis det ikke var god grunn! LA Politiet sa at han ble begravet i enkelte kirkegård eller andre, men kunne ikke være bestemt. Alt synes å være embroiled i tvetydighet, hemmeligholdelse og anomalies som ikke legger opp.
9 juli 2009 at 4:45
Jeg aksepterer det veldig merkelig er det fortsatt ingen bilder av de døde Michael Jackson. Ikke i kiste, ingen bilder av familien på Skog plener. Lager du lurer på ... som paparazi er disse personene som gribb, det burde vært noen bilder.
Dette gjør også at bildet av Michael ble rushet i retning sykehuset mer mistenksom. I det øyeblikket nesten ingen vet om hans situasjon, hvordan er det mulig at bare det øyeblikket den eneste bilde er tatt på det nøyaktige stedet? Det burde vært ukjent at det var Michael Jackson som 911 anrop ikke avsløre en navnet på gentleman.
Det er mye media dekning på hans antatt død, og dette bildet er alt vi har. Den paparazi bør kjempe deres ass off for eksklusive bilder!
9 juli 2009 at 4:52
Jeg er glad for at det er andre folk som tror at det var en imposter på 02 Arena. Jeg så at video på YouTube og jeg ble umiddelbart overbevist øyeblikket jeg sett imposter gange, og selvfølgelig da han snakket. Men jeg fortsatt prøver å finne ut "hvorfor" Michael trengte en impersonator. Jeg har gjort mye forskning, og jeg har også lagt merke til at det virket som siden 2005 har det vært andre imposters jobber for Michael .. Gjør din forskning og sammenligne bilder og videoer. Hvis du vet MJ ansiktet, vil du se forskjellen. Jeg mener også det var am imposter intervjuer med Geraldo og rehearsing på scenen etter konserten. Jeg tror Michael har vært å planlegge dette spøk for en stund nå, han er veldig flink og hadde penger til å ansette de beste av de beste imposters i verden - og trolig betale for plastisk kirurgi. Enten MJ har disse imposters å gjøre sitt skinn mens han plotting hans komme borte, eller ble han myrdet måte før denne, og disse imposters forsøkte å dekke opp hele tiden ... Jeg vet ikke hva jeg skal tro. . noen har en kommentar til dette?
9 juli 2009 at 5:37
Til Tiffany:
Det er mulig at Michael døde et par måneder siden og imposters tok sted. Kanskje han ble drept for sin gjeld til Bahrein Princes. Alt mulig ..
Men fra det punktet AEG hadde et problem, som "dette er det (doubtfull navn) turneen var allerede planlagt og mye monney var involvert. Så de satte en imposter på plass og laget de har tenkt å la ham 'die' et par dager / uker før den første konserten som imposter ikke var i stand til å gjøre det viser uten å bli lagt merke til så forskjellige. Det kan også være grunnen til en forsinkelse på første konserter.
Etter iscenesatt død, de vet salg av CD-er, DVD-er og andre markedsføringsinformasjon blir himmelen høy, prøver å minimere tap eller, som det ser ut i øyeblikket, gjør eller kommer til å gjøre mye penger på "Siste øvelse DVD" den "Memorial DVD og hyllest konsertar.
Dette etterlater meg med et spørsmål: Hvordan kunne det imposter fool Michaels barn og familie eller andre slektninger. De vil lett kjenne forskjeller. Han kan se det samme, men han vil ikke ha det samme minnet som Michael.
(Men ryktene / nyheter i Nederland er nå at coronor fortsatt Michaels hjernen for videre undersøkelser)
9 juli 2009 at 8:22
Etter å se Paris ting igjen, Det er fornuftig at det høres ut som det er en front. Jeg trodde det samme som å se henne smilende hele memorial og deretter ved utgangen hun bare oppturer og frivillige for hennes offentlige tale? Jeg tror ikke det. Michael var 5'10Ft, og den første tanken som kom til meg da jeg første sett kisten rulles ut var at det var for liten! Aldri i historien om dødsfall om har jeg hørt om et organ som ikke er gravlagt i to uker. Det er bare normalt uante av. Noe opp, som jeg kjenner. Jeg tror memorial var iscenesatt. Kanskje alle betalte seg i dette tilfellet. IF, Michael noensinne gjør administrere til overflaten igjen, Politiet vil ikke arrestere ham på grunn av pengene avtale. Alt er mulig. Tross alt Hvis Michael staging alt er mulig, alt er mulig. Jeg føler meg mer rolig i å vite han fortsatt i live. En byrde er litt løftet fra mine skuldre. Jeg kan ikke forestille meg en verden uten ham i det.
9 juli 2009 at 8:31
Hvis lureri ble mistenkt, så hvorfor ikke den suthorities holde kroppen?? Hvis dette var Joe offentlig, så ville de til alle veier hadde vært utforsket og kroppen ville bli utgitt for begravelse. Ingen cremation ville bli sanksjonert fordi de må kanskje exume kroppen for videre tesing. Jeg vet dette er et faktum fordi det skjedde med mine venner mor som døde i begynnelsen av 90-tallet under mistenkelige omstendigheter, og de ville ikke tillate en cremation. Hennes kropp ble gravd opp noen måneder etter hennes død for en ny PM.
I have just been discussing this with a friend who is a police woman and she agrees with me that she is confident that he is still alive and has escaped the “world” to try and gain some semblamce of normality in the later years of his life. She went on to say why she thought they did not have an open coffin like James Brown had or Princess Grace of Monaco. Why couldn't people file past and quietly pay their last repects???? If it was “just a heart attack, then the head would be intact for viewing, even if it just had a voile cloth over it, it would in some way give confirmation of his death.
Finally I agree with other comments about the sales of his albums and associated merchandising, the estate would once again be worth millions from that alone.
Still not convinced he's dead!!!!
July 9th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
There is certainly a lot wrong in this case. About the size of the coffin: From pictures i've seen, a body is not lying straight in the box, but there is some kind of 'chair' build in wich lowers the length used for a full body. Maybe thats the reason for the coffin looking too short
July 9th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
It WAS Michael in the rehearsels video`s danceing and sining. !st of all, he goes up close to the camera, i paused the video, and looked at his eyes, NOONE, no matter how much surgury can have such beautyfull eyes. If you are watching it closely, you can hear Michael talk many times, while he is sining, that is HIS voice. And the damce, you can prectice forever if you want, but nobody moves like Michael. I am pretty sure, that that was him at the rehearsels. I have to agree with the coment, where there is written, that the police will not arrest Michael if he should ever appear again, not they wont. He can solve that with money. But if he is alive, he will come back. Probely to one of the concert dates. I am sure that the children knows that he is alive. I would have thought that he really was dead, if i haden`t seen the sentence : Im alive, am im here forever” I will make a bet on that that was a sign. But noone paid attention to that, some people just believe what the media is telling us. I don`t. I think Michael is alive, and the world will find out soon enough.
July 9th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
I have just analysed the 911 recording posted on “Youtube” and the garbled response from the doctor while the emergency services are talking to the caller is this “It's Michael Jackson, tell him to come” The voice of the doctor sounds foreign, either European or Hispanic – Latin American – I slowed the recording down at that point and picked up what he was saying. Another intriguing piece is just before the caller is asked to put him on the floor, another speaker – not the caller, not the emergency operator – says “Is he on the the floor” Why! It is almost like being prompted to say particular things during the conversation. The operator then says “Is he on the floor”!!!!! There doesn't seem to the “urgency” that you would expect from the voices in the background, who seem to be talking in a calm manner, in situations like this information is often passed between the parties at quite a hurried rate to ensure that the “injured” are attended to as quickly as possible. The “Golden Hour” is the first hour after an incident when in most cases the injured parties can be revived to full health, the doctor should have known this and responded immediately to ensure that Michael Jackson would have survived. BUT, if he had been administering drugs that were the possible cause of this, then he was covering his tracks, or making a lame attempt to do so.
July 9th, 2009 at 11:59 pm
I read about this years ago…MJ would stage his own death….(Messiah syndrome)…then return with the biggest comeback of all time….and the ony person that will be allowed to interview him about “how he pulled this off”….IS OPRAH WINFREY!!! he wanted to prove to the world that the “Media can be wrong”…this will put closure on Child molestation allegations….Whacko Jacko insults…and silence , espacially CNN…..from having any jounalistic intengrity from then on!
That is why Oprah hasn't been around at all!
His best friends were not aat the Memorial…LIZ TAYLOR….LIZA MINELLI…OPRAH…CHRIS TUCKER….DIANA ROSS…..and so many others….MJs Family are all helping out with the hoax…to throw everyone off!
July 10th, 2009 at 2:00 am
Rickster, To be completely hornest, i think that you are right. That has been my thought ever seen that message apeared on the stage backwall on staple Center. I guess we will have to wait and see til the Family are doing some of the concert dates, and the “Jackson 5 Reunion”
July 10th, 2009 at 5:33 am
Maybe Mj has gone to start a new life in Bahrain dressed in arabic clothes like this-
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article719783.ece
Or maybe hes walking round dressed as a woman like this-
http://worldofwonder.net/archives/2006/10/12/girlie_jeans/
July 10th, 2009 at 8:11 am
Actually I recently watched the Oprah interview with MJ at Neverland Ranch. In the private theatre of the ranch MJ says something like “I try to imitate Jesus (then pauses) I mean I'm not saying I am Jesus”. He says this about helping children but if he tries to imitate Jesus, why not try a “resurrection” of some sort as well…? I also just read about a rumour saying that the O2 concerts will show the last rehearsal video which is shot in 3D and the article said “so it's almost like he is really there”. I find that a pretty untasteful choice from the Jackson family if he really is dead. But I don't know, it's just a thought..
10 juli 2009 at 8:12
everyone's contribution on this blog is offering different view points and observation of details, this tells me ppl besides myself are thinking … we can bring MJ' “death” to one common denominator and that is: Michael Jackson staged is own death and has disappeared from view for now. All the “details” surrounding his disappearance have not been perfectly executed as many have expressed doubts and questions about this “event”. It is simply this: the media is seducing all of us with “Michael Jackson” mania and it is exactly this ongoing seduction with ever “new information” emerging that is done to keep distracting from the real truth, a truth so many on this blog have offered bits and pieces of. What we know about the truth are 2 things: 1. it is Self-Evident, and 2. it always prevails, but it takes its time to prevail and we may never again lay eyes on Michael Jackson live on stage or otherwise. While Elvis is hiding in the US witness protection program, MJ has another agenda and might decide to do a shock and awe resurrection act, we will see how long the truth will take to at some point prevail, and, reveal itself.
There is no CREDIBLE evidence that MJ is dead, a “death certifiate” can be forged and put in circulation to dampen the curiousity of those of us who are doubtful, and more such “evidence” will be floated, they have quite a job to do to quiet this all down, after all, this IS Michael jackson …. Michael Jackson was/is loved the world over and if he decides to “reappear”, trust me, NOT ONE SINGLE person will hold against him having staged his own death, but everyone will be in total shock/pure joy that he is back … if he decides to stay in hiding, he might find a life he was longing for and may prefer to stay clandestine, we will see, won't we ?
July 10th, 2009 at 9:04 am
Heisalive. I agree with you of most of the stuff
. Michael will not be “gone” for long, like you said, he is loved all over the world and NOONE would blame him for doing this. The entire would would be in chock, but it would be the greatest plug ever pulled. I would be so happy if he decited to reveal himself, on the concert at his birthday, wich his siblings are going to do. But unfortiently i also think that i would have amidietly heart failer lol, i would just die, if he came back. So you just have to love him for me 
July 10th, 2009 at 10:47 am
They were showing a picture of michael from the liberian girl video set alot at the end, ive made up my mind that the show was a MJ production all but the filming. Even Bubbles would see past this hoax. There is two many cues hidden in the whole memorial.
July 10th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
MyBelovedMJ … I did not say MJ “will not be gone for long” at all, re-read my previous posting and you will see I did NOT say, nor imply it, my point made has a different meaning altogether. Remember this: Michael Jackson is not a healthy man physically nor emotionally as was very obvious while he was visible. Ergo: He'll require a great deal of time and care to reacquire his bearings before any “comeback” could be considered and materialize.
“Loving him for you” is not an option on my end, the only man I really love is: JESUS and HE WILL BE BACK FOR CERTAIN, no question.
Michael Jackson is made out of the same dirt we're all made out of, he had the added blessing of great talent which was wrapped into a gentle, vulnerable soul which shows itself as eccentricity in an artist. It occured to me just this afternoon that MJ was born into and raised in a dysfunctional family, having had to endure an abusive father (who reminds me of the devil in person btw!) having had his childhood stolen from him by force and was made into a energizer bunny-like “money machine” for years on end, an overbearing load to shoulder and bear for any human, twiceover taxing for a kindred spirit and soul as it is Michael Jackson.
Again, all of this logically supports the “escape/run away” theory of a “staged death”. I pray he is under the best medical care by REAL doctors and is receiving the “”don't stop 'til you get enough”"-help he needs, in a safe place where noone can get to him, pray for God's love to heal him …..
July 10th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Dave859, you are absolutely right about “hidden clues in the memorial service”. I am convinced there was NO body in that casket for starters and moreover, important friends didnt show, but folks who hadn't had contact with MJ in years and/or had only met him once, etc etc. This whole thing has a negligent “director”, Elvis' parting was staged far more intricately and meticulously, dont cha agree ?
The faux pas made are mounting and mounting, however recognizable only to those of us who are unto this whole thing. Meanwhile, the media is now stoned on all the “drug stuff” coming out and keeps floating more and more “seduction” …. Thank you for reading, please post back
July 10th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
bexuk: I thought about that too. Maybe he's out on the middle east somewhere assuming a new name, new identity, and a whole new life, a life full of peace – something he's been longing for his entire life.
July 10th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
I agree that there is an ENORMOUS amount of conflicting information starting with the chain of events beginning at Michael's home that even the media doesn't seem to be addressing, or I've missed it. When someone you care deeply about passes on it's natural to have doubts. I do have to say though that these conflicts are a bit much for me too. I do think it was him at the conference. I agree with the gal above that his gate didn't seem like his when he walked in from the vehicle outside but I think that's in part because the jacket was so large. And I do think that was him on stage at the conference. That was his face, voice and the hands were his. He seemed loopy. I think he was probably tipsy on something. Someone on another page on this site made a mention about Paris and I had to agree with him. She didn't seem that upset. This could be because the initial shock at passed – so many days had gone by. I don't doubt for one minute that she loved her daddy deeply. She was telling all the hateful people in the world how wonderful Michael was and he was. But it was when Paris spoke that I took a step back and thought hmmm….I wonder…could he still be among us. But let's be sensible I tell myself…It would be quite an undertaking for all of these people to pull off this hoax. I'd like to know what the deal is with the DOCTOR that was at the house. Why in the world would he immediately surround himself with a legal team if something wasn't amiss. Whether Michael is physically gone or not, one thing is certain..we will never see him again.
10 juli 2009 at 12:42
Most people around the world would attest that Michael Jackson is the greatest and most popular entertainer in the world. That said, if anyone could pull off a death hoax, it would certainly be him. Hvorfor skulle han gjøre det? 1) He was in debt. His albums now occupy the top five spots on Billboard album sales and estimates indicate that within the week these sales will have paid off his debt. 2) He is very innovative, which is what keeps him at the top of his game as an entertainer. By faking his death and then reappearing, his popularity and worth will skyrocket. People will feel that they have a “second chance” to witness him perform, and they will not hesitate to pass up that opportunity. 3) The combined publicity from this event and from his future reappearance are quite strategic maneuvers, both career-wise and financially. 4) There was a recent article pointing out that Prince was now “on top” in terms of hit music, when compared to Michael Jackson. Also, Prince played for 21 nights in London last year, yet Michael's shows were already up to 50 in London. Surely, that's a sign of competition between the two.
Possible evidence: 1) No tears were shed during the “memorial service” by any of the family members. Sure, there were several moments of choking up, but not a single tear — look at the picture from the cover of USAToday. 2) We have a symbolic tradition here in the US that when you are hopefully expecting the return of a loved one you tie or display a yellow ribbon. All of the Jackson brothers were wearing yellow ties at the memorial service. 3) Jackson's shows were scheduled to begin on July 13th and couldn't have gone on much longer before the production having to move to London for those performances. They already had Staples Center rented out for rehearsals, which seems a bit much for just rehearsals in that it just so happens to be the largest indoor venue in one of the largest cities in the US I mean, Pink Floyd practiced in an airplane hangar, not a prime venue at some exorbitant rate. So, having the largest facility in one of the largest cities already rented, they were able to pull off this “memorial service” bit.
I'd also like to point out that James Brown, Michael Jackson's idol as a performer, died on December 25. Michael “died” on June 25 — exactly six months opposite and surely symbolic. And even JB had an open casket.
The difference between Michael and Elvis in the suggestion of them faking their deaths is that I don't believe that anyone had suggested that a celebrity would do this until Elvis died. I believe Elvis is dead (though that movie Bubba Ho-tep is pretty funny), but the idea of a celebrity death hoax was born with him and for 32 years Michael has been able to ponder that scenario for himself. I don't ever recall hearing that MJ loathed or disliked his celebrity; from what I understand, he always knew it to be a part of his life, and with the upcoming shows, it is obvious that he intended on staying in the spotlight. Therefore, it is unreasonable to think that he would pull a death hoax to end his career, rather, he would only use it to catapult it to a level beyond where it had been before.
Crazy? Muligens. Unrealistic? Ikke neppe. Will Michael Jackson be back? Vi får se.
July 10th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Good post Rickster…
Usually Oprah is all over stuff like this and not one word has she spoken about MJ. No bantering to try and get interviews with the family, nothing.
MJ's true friends were not at the memorial (okay maybe Stevie Wonder and uh, what's his name, I think Lionel Richie or was that Smokey Robinson, I don't remember anymore…lol… but the Jackson family requested Queen Latifah, John Mayer, Jennifer Hudson to be there and they said they had never even met MJ! (I found that out on the Huffington Post).
Now why would the family invite people whom Michael hadn't met?
The Huffington Post also mentioned that Usher and Mariah Carey barely knew MJ and that Brooke Shields hadn't seen / talked to him in 18 years.
What in the world is going on?
July 10th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
I have just been reading about the “disappearances” of prominent people over the years. One that stood out in my mind was the Premier of Australia – Harold Holt – He “vanished” after going swimming. No body was ever recovered, that was in 1967. There has been speculation about his disappearance since that time. Another is Lord Lucan, who vanished without a trace after, apparently murdering the families nanny back in 1974.
http://www.lordlucan.com/lucan_story.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Holt
I read in my local paper just after MJ “died” about one of his security men who comes from North Wales, where I live. He said that MJ had a secret companion, to whom he was absolutely devoted. She was kept from the publics gaze, and was never seen with him, but was in his life and that she may emerge after his death……Well, where is she???? Have they gone off together, has he planned this so well that he would never be alone if she were with him??? For mange spørsmål og ikke nok svar. Another thing I saw today was on the front cover of The Star newspaper
http://www.dailystar.co.uk
about a couple who claim to be the real parents of MJ's children…..They are all jumping on the band wagon now, but it will be interesting to see if the claims are founded!!! No smoke without fire I say. As had been said a couple of times on this forum, he would never leave “his” kids, but if he were to discover that they were not his, then he may be so devastated that this is the sort of thing he would do, the anguise and torment would be too much for him.
Just a thought!!!!!
WHERE IS HIS BODY???????? Still no sign of a burial!!!!!
July 10th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
hhhmm i don't know what to say but keep praying for him where ever Mike is.
July 11th, 2009 at 5:39 am
The divine miss jones. The companion you are talking about, that Michael had. Ive heard that she got fired in December last year. But who know`s
If they should be together, I hope he is happy 
July 11th, 2009 at 7:08 am
I don't know much about Elvis and his claimed hoax death. But if Elvis faked his death, it would hav been much easier in the 1970's. There was no Internet or Cell phone. It was much easier to cover things up.
Now Michael possibly tried it again in the 21 century where almost evryone has acces to the internet, cell phone photo camera.
It would be much more difficult nowadays to pull this off. There are so many things to take into account for such a fake death job. Now it seems there are some loose ends wich they cannot cover up (anymore).
That may also be the reason why lots of negative stories about Michaels kids, his drug abuse and his debts are in the media. They try to distract people from what really happenend. Most sources of thes articles are close to the family or former employees of Michael. But none of them (OK, some exceptions) is called by name in these articles.
I hope ther will be a comfirmation the comming days wether he really died or he faked his death.
July 11th, 2009 at 8:15 am
he did sleep in a hyperbaric chamber that is true
July 11th, 2009 at 8:16 am
he is not with anyone i know this for a fact i will not give my info out but he is single and was never involved after debbie i do not know where you heard that lol
July 11th, 2009 at 8:23 am
wow new info mother katherine gets kids and debbie rowe now asked for a delay to decide ok why the change she wanted them she said they are my children now she has to think about it who has talked to her about plans lol who is paying her off she was very determined to get her kids now she needs time to think the plot thinkens why is everything michael wanted unfolding must be for a reason i wonder how many ppl are getting paid off to complete this
July 11th, 2009 at 9:16 am
Supermon75, well one of his bodyguards, said it on an interwiev. Don`t remember his name. but he did.. well good to know that he is singel. Cause i think he is sexy
July 11th, 2009 at 9:19 am
Former bodygurds, i should say. a few days after michael “died”.
July 11th, 2009 at 9:23 am
The family was furious that the hearse was drove by a white SWAP member.They wanted it to be an African American who drove the hearse.
After the memorial there was no body of mj in the hearse.
What does it matter who drove the hearse.
You can read it at the following link:
http:www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/07/exclusive-swat-team-transported-michael-jackson's-body-family-battled-cops
July 11th, 2009 at 9:49 am
The body of mj is being held in the crypt of Berry Gordy.
The family has not decided “yet” wher he should be buried.
If you still don't know that after more than 2 weeks then you'll never know.
But then you can stretch this as long as possible.
http://
July 11th, 2009 at 9:50 am
http://www.nme.com/news/michael-jackson/45976
July 11th, 2009 at 9:52 am
my other comment had to be SWAT member.And the link is:
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/07/exclusive-swat-team-transported-michael-jackson 's-body-family-battled-cops
July 11th, 2009 at 10:14 am
They firts said there was no evidence of foul play.
And now they say it can turn in to a homicide case.
Can anyone tell me what is the difference.
July 11th, 2009 at 10:38 am
this MJ saga is getting real ugly now with all the drug info coming out and poured all over him. Was it a wonder that MJ was addicted to drugs ? Were drugs his only escape ? This is very very likely. As to his chronic insomnia: this one goes to monster Daddy Dearest Joe Jackson who when Michael was a young boy, appeared with a werewulf mask at his bedroom window to “teach im a lesson” to keep the window closed at nite. Imagine how this “trick” from Daddy Joe must have petrified little Michael at the time this took place. Incidents like this one created irreversible damage to the psyche of a human, especially a young child. This ghoulish experience and fear grew with Michael and the fear part would not let him sleep normally, so he reached for help and over did it.
As a young child, I had several incidents with a variety of animals who attacked and hurt me, so much so, that I could never shake the fear of them and this fear is still with me very much, so in a way, I can relate to Michael's fear of going to sleep. I deliberately choose a community to live in where housepets are shunned on and are forbidden so that I can feel TOTALLY SECURE to not be attacked by an animal.
Michael was petrified, fearful of a whole list of things, what better motivator to escape it all .. escape to: SAFETY !!!
Anyone ?
July 11th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
bt dont you think lapd is intelligent enough to check the dna of mj and of that imposter or the police dept. is also involved. i really want to believe that mj is still alive.
July 11th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
every day new drug is been published to which( the media claims) that mj was addicted to. i think had mj been doing so many drugs at one go he would have died years ago . come on yaar i really wanna know the reality
July 11th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
how can media nt hound upon a single clip of mjs dead body is beyond my understanding
July 11th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
how can mj fool the docs the police the media and everything which goes into it. i am hoping for an answer soon..
July 11th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
My husband – whose initials are MJ – runs a business from home and yesterday a woman called to ask what the MJ stood for, when I told her she went quiet, then I twigged, and said, “Did you think it stood for Michael Jackson?” to which she slammed the phone down. People are doing some very strange things.
I have asked around about the “temporary” burial of a body. In Britain that cannot de done because it requires special permission from a Government Department called the Home Office to move the body once a burial has taken place. In order to remove it from one spot to another you would have to be granted an exumation order. I am sure that similar rules apply in the US and if this is the case, you need to be looking at City Hall records and Government Departments to find out if such a request is being made.
Lsstly, a comment from my 11 year old son…Why did President Obama seem so unmoved by the event, during an interview he had to be prompted to say something about it. Considering MJ's popularity you would have thought that to “humour” his fans a Presidential recognition of the death for have been one of his main topics.!!!!!!
July 11th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
i dont know how to put this bt honestly i believe whether he is gone into hiding or god forbaid he is even dead . i think he is in a better position in a better state than he was earlier. out of all this media hooplah the crazy stories.he deserved every bit of peace he wasnt able to get. it hard bt lets face it we never deserved mj we never respected him when he was alive and giving us so much to cherish . and know we are remembering him and wishing him to come back. how stupid of us. he was the best he was like jesus who went into so much of suffering for his children (the world) and what we gave him crucification ditto we have done with jackson.
July 11th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
Dikki. Do not say, “WE” Never did. Speak for yourself. Some of us actuelly did
July 12th, 2009 at 12:27 am
i said we bcuz we were sitting silent in our homes when allegations were being charged on him. we didnt do anything we could have bought protests or something may bur tryin to over react read my sentence in the context am saying
July 12th, 2009 at 12:29 am
and as for me i have been fighting with my friends and relatives who have been telling me that he was what media framed him to b. i love him and i know it.
July 12th, 2009 at 12:58 am
Now here's a thought, and it's just a thought. Thinking back to a personal experience of mine. My step-father died very suddenly from a heart attack about 6 weeks after having a pace maker inplanted. For the 6 weeks that he lived he said he felt great, and he looked fine, then WHAM! Borte. The PM in his case found a blood clot that had been sitting in his blood stream for goodness knows how long, once the pace maker was in place the heart beat regulated and the blood flow increased, accelerating the clot to his heart thus giving him the heart attack. He actually died mid sentence while talking to a friend.
Now, lets do a “what if” senario for MJ. What if he too had a blood clot. Years of plane travel can apparently cause one of these beasts. “What if” the rigorous dance routines and rehearsals had acclerated the heart beat, thus pumping the clot round to his heart. He may have felt some chest pain prior to dying, he may have asked for pain relief. We don't know, we were'nt there. This could have been missed by a physical, just as my step-fathers (prior to his surgery).
As I said, it's just a thought, but I feel it is one that I should voice.
July 12th, 2009 at 11:20 am
Okay!!!!
so everybody thinks he faked his death…..
well to be honest if i could choose i would love that he would still be alive.
But i got a question…..
they have that last photo from him on the ambulance, he went to the hospital, that might have happened.
Let me tell you this, I'm from portugal and before they broke the news in the states that michael was dead, here in postugal that had already done that, in US media there was only the news that he went to the hospital, nothing more, probably an hour later they gave the news that he died… so does this mean anything i don't……
But why say that he faked his death????? did anyone thought of the possibility that he might be in a coma and and his managers and family faked his death??????
Well i really don't whta to believe, maybe we all never thought that we would die someday, that he was invincible, maybe he died and just can't cope with that, we are so desperate to believe that he is still alive…..
To be HONEST i really want him to be alive, it just feels like music died
July 12th, 2009 at 11:59 am
Okey. I hear ya. I can only speak for myself here
. Im not to desperate to think that he might still be alive. But i am pretty sure that he aint dead. Look at sll the facts, all the hints at the memoriel. Nothing adds up. NOTHING. And to be hornest, the one to tank for that is Latoys, she really blew it, at that thing where she was talking. She said: Michael always said, Family 1st fans 2nd. He loves you very much, and he is watching every singel one of you right now. He loves you with all his heart. Let me just say!!! DOHH!!! That was pretty stupid of her.. She should have talked about him in pressence sence. Not like he is still here, if she wanted to keep up his cover. Im glad that she aint my sister, incase i ever needed to fake my own death. That would be bad
July 12th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
I am convinced this is a hoax at the 02 arena Michael Jackson said I am serious this is the last curtain call and gave a suspicious look He stated “This Is It”. When Oprah did not make a public announcement. Something was strange when the family managers set up a crisis line and told fans please do not kill themselves. And when his brother said Michael Jackson maybe they will leave you alone. I believe the memorial service was a goodbye to his fans and career as an entertainer. He was saying good bye to his music career to peruse a peaceful life away from the media attention. Michael Jackson if you are out their alive I don't blame you thank you for all the wonderful music. Your music will live forever
July 12th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Well well well, somebody else besides me has FINALLY noticed that the video footage from the rehearsal the night before MJ's alleged “death” is OLD FOOTAGE. NO human as weak as MJ appearing in the media weighing only 112 lbs is physically able to pull off a dance routine like shown in the vido, no way !!!! I am a dancer myself and can say with credible certainty that it is NOT possible ! My “this cannot be MJ”-hunch with this video was right on target. This net of lies being spun and presented to the public is outrageous in that these ppl, AEG and the Jacksons think we are all stupid ???
Not one single member of the mainstream media has so much as breathed a word that MJ staged his death, with one possible exception: Gerald Hessler from “The daily beast”, a US rag last sunday stated on the Geraldo Rivera Show that Michael “did not want to do this at all” referring to the London gig/s and said further that MJ wanted to use “Swine flu” to get “out of the gig” .. Hessler barely got the last cylable out of his mouth when he was CUT off and the subject was abruptly changed, did anyone besides me see that show ???
Hessler was on again this evening, 7/12, but this time hummed an altogether different tune and talked “nicely” …'hint'
LaToya's interview with some british rag is real heavy hitting, have the Jackson's become aware that the public is onto them and gave this interview to up the score ? Very possible !
I consider it a likely possibility that MJ made away right after his appearance at the rehearsal,that is: if that was him at all OR one of his doubles; that the person in the ambulance was definitely NOT MJ is very obvious as well as the double at the London press conference; that NONE of MJ's close friends like Taylor, Ross, Minelli, Uri Geller and many others did not show at the memorial AND are still NOT speaking out is highly questioable and beyond bizarre; that LaToya “gave” an interview to some british rag to inject a new hit of crack-cocaine into more “these are the facts” media floating ??? How LONG can these ppl keep up this act ?
What they NEED to do is button up and stay in total seclusion if they want the public to believe that MJ has really “died” …
This is a conspiracy and whatever “information” is being floated and coming, whatever, I just pray that Michael is under the medical care of doctors he can trust and are are treating him to become well again, mentally and physically so that he can live a life he has yearned for elsewhere. We may never see him again and if that is so, remember: we did have the best of him for years and he is entitled to live a life in peace and safety.
What is everybody else thinking ?
July 12th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
he was not 112 that was a lie
July 12th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
they said in the autopsy michael was very helthy and no signs of foul play and they ruled out natrual causes already
July 12th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
he wanted air time is is all gossip do not believe anything you here like one of his former house keeper trie to say he locked children in his room feed them wine in baby bottles come on now he would never do that
July 12th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
I think MJ would have been better of saying he caught Swine Flu to get out of these gigs he so obviously did not want to do and was pressured into! If only he knew what type of circus and media frenzy he would create by instead faking his death.
Then again, he probably just didn't care anymore. I hope he is well, wherever he is.
July 12th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
I agree with you. I don`t care if he ever comes back to perform. As long as he is alive, safe and well. That is the only thing that matters to me
July 12th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
michael would never inject himself i do not belive he was an addict at all and the media is cooking something up cause then they will not get paid if he is not found dead by overdose as it is stated in his insurance claim for the this is it concert they cover over dose but not natrual causes
July 12th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
here is another one for you all xanax if he was taking as much as they say he would be to tired to do anything he would not have sleep ap ok and most of the drugs he was doin are downers so how do they get he can not sleep out of that i do not understand
July 12th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Correction: “The Daily Beast” reporter's name is Gerald POSNER (I am sorry I misunderstood the name and got it correctly the 2nd time) apologies – thanks
July 12th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
My 11 year old son has been playing detective regarding MJ. Now here is an observation that he made about MJ's right hand….Follow me with this one because you have to be quick. I am attaching a video of “The way you make me feel” from Youtube. At 3.14 – just after he shouts “Hey”, he extends two fingers and his thumb of his right hand. The thumb is the bit you need to concentrate on…You will notice that the tumb itstself curls at quite an acute angle and the bone just above sticks out to give an almost triangular appearance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJrUa-zKeIc
If you look at other footage ie the press conference in O2 arena London check out his right hand…for the same anomalies that I have already mentioned.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_256XQiS1X8
You could possibly trace his entire career by just looking for that one over-riding physical – dare I say – defect – I am, but not in a malicious way.
Now look at the “final rehearsal” video…At the end of the routine he extends his right arm and hand…check it out. Unless he had surgery to correct his hands, which could explain gloves and gauntlets in the past…then it looks to me, and this is a personal observation…to be someone else.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_256XQiS1X8
July 12th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRQrmOc-Tts
This is the rehearsal footage that I watched. Sorry…repeated the youtube links. Take a look following the thread about the right hand.
July 13th, 2009 at 12:13 am
Mrs. Jones: I agree about the “defect” but if you look at this video at about 45 seconds, he extends his hand and the bump is gone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz_J_do9hzY&feature=related
But if you look at the O2 Press Conference video, “MJ” calls the guy over and puts his hand on his shoulder and the bump is there!
However, I do NOT think it was really MJ at the press conference. The chin, smile, moves, etc. MJ would not get up there and talk the way this guy did. He sounded like an idiot. MJ was/is very well spoken in front of the camera. Look at any of his interviews. One thing about his hands, he seems to have the longest hands on a human! Virkelig! His fingers are so long! But at the press conf, his hands are shorter and fatter it seems. MJ's hands are so skinny too. Not at the conference, yet he doesn't appear to have put on any weight. I know when most people put on weight, your fingers get fatter too. don't they? Anyway, at the press conference, that is NAVI! Not MJ. Look at Navi's pics. He has a wide smile, and his lips look more like a normal mouth than MJ's (normal?). Whether or not MJ is really dead, that is NOT him at the conference. That is Navi! Your son is very observant! Oppbevar den kommer!
July 13th, 2009 at 4:38 am
Over lunch the family came up with some other theories. One of which is this, MJ borrowed money from a Saudi prince – Yes! He was then asked to repay the money back – If he was as broke as they say, where did the cash come from? Our over lunch theorizing was this – and you have to remember that we were allowing our minds to do overtime on the conspiracy
theory – what if he borrowed it again from the Mafia, couldn't pay it back and the doctor was paid to see him off. With the so called pain killer adiction, no one would question too deeply what the doctor did…As I said, it was over lunch, and it was a bash at a theory.
July 13th, 2009 at 4:53 am
I miss him, the world was a much better place with him in it, I only wish I had appreciated him more when he was here.
July 13th, 2009 at 5:23 am
I KNOW that was MJ at the 02 confrence.
Navi has a deeper voice then MJ.
13 juli 2009 at 7:39
Hi Divershay, And Hi there everyone from a warm and windy North Wales.
Now, let us suppose that if you are told something often enough, you start to believe it!
If we, the fans, are told that the person we are looking at is MJ, then, are we not drawn into the plot to keep the real MJ from prying eyes. A confidence trick.
During the 2nd World War there was a chap who looked like General Montgomery. A plan was devised to use this man to impersonate Monty and go to North Africa.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Was_Monty 's_Double_(film)
This makes the impersonator theory a good one, because we do not see the man – MJ – all the time, the person thrust infront of us, who we are told is MJ, we beieve is MJ. We only see photos that are tarted up and made to look enigmatic. We so want it to be him, that we truly believe that it is.
Tonight, on British Television – Channel 4 – was a documentary about the passing of MJ. I am attaching a link for those who missed it. You may be able to watch it on line. I am making no comments, but will leave the story to unfold and see what you think.
Another suggestion by Benjamin – my 11 year old – Try this for size…..The gold coffin with the seat like interior was designed so that a “living” Micheal Jacksin could attend his own memorial service. The huge bunch of flowers on the top hid an oxygen tank so that he could breath and the length of time for the service was determined by the amount of oxygen in the cylinder. Daft, but plausible!!!!!
Hey, you know what, it's more plausible than daft.
Previous comments about his friends who were mysteriously not at the memorial is strange. If someone of that stature passes and you are asked to attend a memorial, you would put everything on hold, pull out all the stops and turn up. No Oprah, no Liz Taylor just folk who had maybe met him once, if that. Catterwalling some tune out – some of it was terrible – it was dreadful.
And I still wonder what the hell they did with the coffin afterwards!!!! Is it like a kind of transformer and changed from a coffin into a set of matching suitcases. Carried out so no one noticed.
July 13th, 2009 at 7:41 am
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/what-really-happened
The link to Channel 4's documentary about MJ.
July 13th, 2009 at 7:54 am
Here's what I don't get. The Jackson were okay with helicopters flying above Forest Lawn the days before the memorial, the day of the memorial AND even let the helicopters follow the motorcade with the hearse to the staples center BUT would not let the coffin leave staples center being recorded? It's being “said” that the coffin was taken through the tunnels under the Staples center and loaded into an unmarked van and taken away. WHY?? YOU JUST LET EVERYBODY FILM YOU BRING IT THERE!! And seriously…who lends out their family crypt(reporting that MJ is temporarily being held inside the Berry Gordy family crypt) Which he has now denied. MJ IS MISSING!!!!
July 13th, 2009 at 9:59 am
@ The Divine Mrs Jones – that last paragraph made me laugh! I could just imagine the coffin turning into a bunch of suitcases. OR MAYBE LATOYA WAS HIDING MJ IN HER DAMN HUGE HAT! (not seriously, but damn that hat needed it's own zipcode!)
July 13th, 2009 at 10:14 am
“And I still wonder what the hell they did with the coffin afterwards!!!! Is it like a kind of transformer and changed from a coffin into a set of matching suitcases. Carried out so no one noticed.”
HAHAAHAH!!! Uvurderlig!
And yes, I would have thought Liza, Liz, and several other closest friends would have been there. But no! They couldn't be “bothered” to show. Veldig rart.
And what ejay5131 says makes us wonder too! The whole thing with the media is weird. Only ONE pic since MJ “died”? Come on, ONE! That's silly considering how many pics they get of everything else related to anyone famous or even a little bit famous.
This whole thing makes me mad that they think they can pull the wool over everyone's eyes. The fans aren't stupid! We have loved him for too long and scrutinized every physical detail about him through the years.
July 13th, 2009 at 10:20 am
Ok everyone I found a song, It's really Crazy unreleased from Michiael Jackson, It talks about how he's “planning” his escape from the “system” and “pressures” he has to find a place to hide away.(thats what he says in the song) the name of the song is xscape(yes, it's actually spelled that way.
If he faked his death, he's away from the pressures, he has to leave his children behind, if he don't want people to know he's “dead”). If the children is with his family, he will always see them. Latoya said, he didn't want to do the 50 shows, that's probably why it was an impersonator at the O2 conference! It was him rehearsing in the video, if he's planning his get away, he has to cooperate, right? AEG insured for “overdose”? HVORFOR?
July 13th, 2009 at 11:02 am
This song tells it all. OMG. It is not a old song. He is sining of how he wants to get away from the media, and just want to be in a place where he dosen`t need to hide from everyone. Where he can be himself. He is telling it all in this song. It can be more clear. Michael has “escaped” The pressure. He just wants to be in peace. I wonder whan he made this song, it can`t be that long ago. MY GOD. Mabye he really is alive? I really hope so. I would make me smile again. I guess we just ahve to leave Michael alone. I just hopes that he is happy and in peace.
July 13th, 2009 at 11:41 am
now this should answer everything something is wrong i think the women of the family are hiding michael he is alive and his brother and father have been using michael for his money jermaine is broke his brother jermaine said that the jackson 5 were goin to have a reunion but in an interview with michael he said he was never going to sing with them again so maybe latoya knows it was her brothers father and AEG in a plot and they are protecting michael right now in hiding till the truth comes out also new news that there is another will from 2007 he wrote a new will every 5 yrs now michael might have it or they do and they are goin to pull it out saying michael wanted his sister rebbie to mother his children and debbie and katherine have agree to keep joe out of the childrens life cause he is now tryin to get costody of the chikdren and he wants to make them the jackson 3 so the ploy thickins
http://www.lipstickalley.com/f227/jackson-family-fallout-exclusive-interview-manager-reveals-rift-over-funeral-192891/
July 13th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
la toya is now saying that there is a big conspiracy behind murder of mj. she is saying that $2 million are missing from his rented home when world believed him to be totally bankrupt.. she is also saying that mj was fed up of taking these drugs which some people were giving to him to keep him submissive. if it was truly there then why the family never protected mj out of all this. why they let him die and are now creating all this fuss and making autopsy over autopsy.
July 13th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
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July 13th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
This is LaToya's biiiiiiiiiiig chance to “shine”, to propel herself into center stage, but most importantly, make some monnnnnnney!
Her credibility equals Zero as she is insincere and phoney. when Michael was accused of Child molestation, it was LaToya who on national US television spoke out in support of the accusers and against her brother, I remember it well, does anybody else at all ? ? Shame shame on you big sista !
LaToya is a diva wanna-be, a sensationalist, an opportunist and extremist. Her only claim to fame is showing her coochie for a few bux to a trashrag like “Playboy Magazine” … and here, she suddenly has turned into and acts like Florence Nightingale ?
These rags she is talking to are paying her a nice dollar for the drama queen act she's just pulled off here, she makes me sick
Sister Janet who worked with Michael on videos is surprisingly hush hush, isn't she ? But then again,Jan had a good run in show business and has money and, all she showed was her nipple at the superbowl half-time show and called it “wardrobe malfunction”. Neither one of them has any lady-like qualities.
The more details emerge, the more ground the 'staged death' gains. These “interviews” are nothing but a mechanism to redirect attention to a new theory they are spinning, Murder … they stop at nothing to create sensationalism and seem to think we are all stupid or something ?
I pray that Michael is safe and secure. What must he be thinking …. ??
July 13th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
I'll tell you what Michaels thinking…True fans can NEVER be fooled!!
July 13th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
ejay, thank you for your reply, I think you are right, great answer
July 13th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
yes maybe michael is still alive. bt i dont think he did this. maybe a threat to him or he was kidnapped to get money? blahblah lol
July 13th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
I wonder if he's reading this???? Maybe scanning the internet to find what people are saying!!!! If so – Hi Michael.
July 13th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
What the heck is this????
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/090713/entertainment/centertainment_us_jackson
July 13th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Divine Mrs. Jones: that not only the Jacksons and other parties, but MICHAEL HIMSElF might be reading the postings on this website occured to me too just today. I also thing the “staged death” concept is gaining traction around the internet, more and more ppl are blogging on different sites expressing their doubts that Michael “died” …
I am wondering about if anybody is controlling this and will at some point shut websites down who are exclusively dedicated to this hoax, what is your thought on this ?
July 13th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
ejay that was a tv reality show that the men of the family were tryin to start up before his death
July 13th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
or should i say his disaperance
July 13th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
Bloggers: have any of you seen this ? This is a “protocol” type order of occurences synopsis of the events surround Michael Jackon's death, take a look and check it out:
http://michaeljacksonnotdead.wordpress.com/2009/07/12/michael-is-still-alive-death-is-staged-its-a-hoax/#comment-3
July 13th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Ok, I've read the Escape lyrics and seen the video on Youtube.
Now, seeing as we are all open to speculation and possibility. Try this for size…and remember this is just me voicing an opinion…I have listened to his press conference again at the O2 Arena in London from March this year. The person speaking at the podium did NOT sound like MJ, the voice was too deep for my liking. Now, just suppose for a moment that the “This is it” Tour title is actually relating to the fact that he's had enough and by July he be out and gone. The last time he'd be in London – July – Hummmmm!!!!!
Is he hiding in London? Was the talk at the press conference a metaphor for I'll be back, but you won't know it.
This thought has just sailed through my head…Here goes…If you want to hide a tree you put it in a forest. If you want to hide an apple you put it with other apples. If you want to hide a person you put them with people. OK…Here it is, just suppose that the people you were hiding with had relinquished all worldly goods and chattles…monks!!!! OR even a Amish community. It may sound silly, but if we are going down hoax road then we have to explore every possible avenue that leads from it, whether it seems daft or has a dead end.
As it used to say on the X Files – “The truth is out there”
July 13th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhK1cKBut_o&feature=related
There is a series of Youtube videos about MJ's home movies. On the first one, at the end, he says he doesn't like to tour because – quote “I go through hell”
Maybe the thought of 50 shows was enough to start the ball rolling for the disappearing act. Not only the mounting debt to deal with, but being pushed by record comapnies etc to do the tour. It must be very hard work – and that's an understatement – to be consistently good, to be as viberant on day 50 as you were on day 1. Not an easy gig.
July 13th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Hands up who believes in the “after life” No joke. I belong to a ghost hunting group – http://www.theorbwhisperers.com and our resident medium has something to say on the MJ subject. If you want to hear what it is I'll tell you. I do not want to offend anyone, because even I am a sceptic, but I do think I should allow for all possibilities that life – and death – has to offer. I you think that this will offend, I will gladly keep it to myself.
July 13th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
I have just watched a History Channel documentary called Cities of the Underworld, and in this episode it talked about a huge complex of tunnels cris-crossing the underneath of Los Angeles. There was once a subway that ran the length and breadth of LA, but it was closed in the post war period and the “land” was bought up by GM, closing the railways meant that people would have to buy cars…I can seen their point. My point is that maybe they have accessed some of these tunnels whilst building the stadium, and after the so called memorial, have ushered MJ away through them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cities_of_the_Underworld
Look at season 3 “Land of Manson”
You can google LA's underground railways as well.
http://www.reptilianagenda.com/research/r110199k.shtml
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Downtown 's+forgotten+tunnel-a011766237
http://www.westworld.com/~elson/larail/PE/tour.html
http://www.flickr.com/groups/lagroup/discuss/72157611913350533/
You have to allow for the fact that I am trying to come up with every plausible possibility as to how to “magic” someone away. The memorial was the smoke screen.
July 13th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
No, please share! This is a place for our individual opinions and thoughts. So far yours have been so insightful! I can't speak for anyone else on this page, but I would be interested to hear what you have to say.
And I really want to thank you for posting the link to the home movies. I had not seen that! I am going to watch all the segments now. So far I have watched the first and loved it!
As for the O2 conf, I tried to say that was Navi who was up there speaking and someone on here said it's not Navi, that Navi's voice is deeper than Michael's. Now you say you think the person's voice was too deep to be Michael. So you confirmed for me what I thought all along. Navi's voice is deeper, the person on stage has a deeper voice. We don't even need to continue on the physical differences of the two. They are clear to anyone who really looks.
July 13th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
“Mojofi Says:
July 13th, 2009 at 5:23 am
I KNOW that was MJ at the 02 confrence.
Navi has a deeper voice then MJ.”
Yeah, and uh….that's what we are saying….
that the person on stage has a deeper voice than MJ. Hence, why we think it is not MJ but his double.
July 13th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
As far as trying to “magic someone away” I still like the transformer casket turning into a set of luggage to be carried. I still laugh when I get a visual! This whole thing isn't funny, but the way you put it was. Lol!
July 13th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
I will first set out what Dave, our group medium told me. He said that when some one passes suddenly their spirit is in shock and does not realise that they have died. Dave has a “spirit guide” and has asked from time to time whether the guide can tell him if MJ is “in spirit” and, apparently the guide has told him no, not yet. Dave takes this to mean that he is still alive and has not yet passed.
I, on the other hand took a totally different tack, and being the EVP (electronic voice phenomena) queen of the group, I took my voice recorder and simply asked the question….”Is Michael Jackson really dead?” To which I got a quick response, a mans voice saying “No”
If I could find some way to put the voice recording on this site I would post it for you to hear.
Back to Dave for a moment. His spirit guide often helps him move spirits on into the “light” but it cannot find the spirit of MJ.
I am a sceptic, but there are those amongst us who feel that some spiritual comfort is required in times like these, and this is mine through Dave…Cheers Dave.
The “Ghost of Neverland” he says is not MJ…..Too soon, but the house has been standing for many years and has witnessed many families living there. The “ghost” is probably an old one, that has walked the halls and corridors for a long time. OR – my opinion – it's a reflection/shadow from outside. I would love to go with the group and investigate…Get some great EVP's from there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Am67-Sew7k
July 13th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
Yeah, I saw that. It was proven to be a crew person walking around in there and passed in front of a light. If you look through the window and the way the walls are on the outside, you can see there looks to be a room over in that area. It looked to me like the person was walking in that room and happened to pass in front of the window with sunlight shining through and the person's shadow was thrown out into the room. At least, that's what they are saying in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y3jlzS_BZc&feature=related
At about 2 minutes, it is clear and sharp. But I tell you what, I did get chills watching the original part in the first half again. Even after I knew they “debunked” the ghost story. Originally it was not as solid of an image so to speak. It was so transparent you almost don't see it. But when they show how it was not real, the image is more solid. I am a big skeptic as well. Then again, I am not so much a skeptic as I have to see it to believe it but I don't necessarily wanna see it! I am a big chicken so I guess it is easier to say oh, that stuff isn't real than to actually think about how I would react if I saw something paranormal.
I too have had friends who believe in spirit guides and they would totally agree with what both you and Dave are suggesting. These are things we can never truly know.
I just did a little poll on a website about do you think MJ faked his death and is still alive. After you vote you can see the results. Like 88% (or around there) voted yes!! After watching all of the home movie segments, I really hope he is still alive somewhere. He has the cutest personality I have ever seen. And to hear him giggle while watching the movies in his theater, I hope he is somewhere laughing again. The sweetest sound! Anyone who has not watched them really should. My favorite is the first one where he's all excited over the super soakers. Too cute!
July 13th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
Also an awesome part is where he is saying he hates touring and they are telling him they have to redo that part. He is so sweet to watch. I know this isn't the place to discuss the home movies and such, I just wanted to throw that out there. Fred!
July 14th, 2009 at 1:04 am
Hi Divershay
I take on board everything that you have said, I to think that the home movies are fun to watch.
That was then, we have to concentrate on “the now” That entails all of us putting our collective heads together and coming up with a rational explanation as to where the devil he might be hiding.
On the Channel 4 documentary that I mentioned earlier, one man who knew the Jackson family well said that just before his latest tour “This is it” they had tried to get to Michael to spirit him away to “clean him up” This chap believes that MJ wanted out of the adiction spiral that he was in. His “insiders” who perpetuated the adiction kept the family from him.
The final rehearsal footage shows some strain on MJ's face, that could be because he has been out of the loop for so long, but it could equally be withdrawal symptoms kicking in!!!! To be honest, he looks like he's in pain, he had apparently suffered from back trouble for some years. Channel 4 also interviewed a doctor who specialised in helping “well known” drug addicts. He said that he thinks that MJ was NOT taking heroin, but he was having a medication usually given to patients who they want to keep in a coma. That could explain the theory that MJ IS in a coma and it has been said that he would not come out of it. This would kind of explain the “death” announcement, and the lack of a body.
MJ was not pleased about the fact that the tour had gone from 10 dates to 50. Ironically the dancers assigned to work with him were originally contracted for 2 years. Why so long if the tour was supposed to be ONLY 10 dates????? Makes you think what else the record company machine had up it's sleeve.
July 14th, 2009 at 1:38 am
Just been looking at the supposed final photo from the ambulance – that photographer has made his annual earnings in one shot – anyway – I saved the picture and set it up so that I could rotate it for a better look.
Now, to me it seems like he is grimacing a little, his eyebrows are not relaxed, they are furrowed slightly just over his nose, the ventialation contraption in his mouth doesn't seem to be in his mouth, he mouth looks closed. The colour of his skin is that of someone who is relatively healthy. I've someone after a heart attack and they look grey/blue and their lips go blue as well. None of it adds up to a victim of a heart attack. Even the make-up that he wore looks fresh. If I were giving CPR to someone wearing make-up I am sure that it would smudge and they for a time would look a bit of a mess. And if they are supposedly giving CPR in the back of the ambulance why is the paramedics hand on his right shoulder and not his heart. And if he is supposed to have “died” at home, why bother giving CPR at all. They were there for about half an hour or so, if they couldn't get him back in that time thay should just have covered the body and taken him out quietly. I thought then, and still think now that it was a ploy to kick start the disappearance.
July 14th, 2009 at 2:20 am
@ The Divine Mrs Jones – your posts make me happy! I, too, am a strong believer in the paranormal! I wish I was a part of a ghost hunting group, though. I tend to just wander on my own and do my own 'personal' ghost huntings, if you will.
As for MJ – I also believe that if his Family might be reading this website, it's almost quite possible he is reading it as well!
@divershay – I know, MJ is the sweetest person ever, isn't he? he is such a sweet soul, so gentle and fragile! He would never hurt a fly <3
July 14th, 2009 at 6:00 am
ok take alook at this statement then i found a statement form dr.thome thome
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1615735/20090713/jackson_michael.jhtml
http://www.accesshollywood.com/michael-jackson/michael-jackson-adviser-dr-tohme-tohme-breaks-silence-to-talk-about-his-friend_article_20158
July 14th, 2009 at 6:18 am
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31740617/ns/entertainment-music/#storyContinued
July 14th, 2009 at 6:22 am
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31740617/ns/entertainment-music/page/2/now this guy makes me open my eyes on who jackson really was and that ppl were tryin to hurt him
July 14th, 2009 at 8:40 am
http://www.flipkart.com/fade-black-douglas-b-jones/1436352738-uox3f42f2d is not the cheif that worked for michael?
July 14th, 2009 at 8:59 am
Dear The Divine Mrs Jones
I really don't know if i should believe in what you say, even thought i truly want to……..
But i go a question,
if he's not dead than why is Latoya always saying that she knows who killed michael?????
if he was still alive wouldn't they simply be quite????? Not pushing too musch atention from the media?
if he was still alive shouldn't his kids by now be with me?
What about those updates where they say michael had needle marks in his neck, how would they make that up????
To bo honest as time goes by my hopes that michael is still alive keeps geting smaller. What proves that he's still alive????
Uansett, imidlertid,
Dear The Divine Mrs. Jones if it's true that you can hear taht voice and that Dave guy can't “see” spirits, i want to ask you one thing:
If he's still alive, is he alright?is he sick?is he safe? is he happy now?
July 14th, 2009 at 10:02 am
I'm sorry but there's more than what meets the eye. To the administrator thanks for this site. When the imposter was at the press conference, not one time did the family step up and say “that's not Michael.” And don't tell me that the Jackson family doesn't know about all the hoax rumors going on saying that Michaek is alive, and yet still no response? Something isn't right.
And then they have Latoya coming out saying all this stuff about her brother being murdered and that millions dollars and costly jewelry were missing from his home. Now correct me if I'm wrong but how the hell would she know what was missing in his home? Can someone answer that?
Then she said his kids wanted to see their father when he died at the hospital and that his face was covered up with a towel. Ok, unless something changed over the years, someone who dies doesn't get covered until the medical examiner comes in and take the body and asks everyone in the room to leave. And since when they cover your face with a towel.
I agree with who ever said they're glad they Latoya isn't their sister. I feel the same way.
July 14th, 2009 at 11:23 am
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1615735/20090713/jackson_michael.jhtml
Hope this opens up. Read it and see what you think. The Channel 4 documentary states that MJ did NOT know he was to do 50 gigs until it was too late. The tickets were printed and sold in a flash. AEG jumped on the financial bandwagon and this poor bloke had to turn up, perform and smile like a puppet. Well, it seems that the puppet cut the strings before the puppet masters could dictate the dance. I also think that Joe Jackson is quietly enjoting his new found fame.
Earlier someone mentioned the “Escape” song from the album “Invincible” I have checked out the lyrics and get this, in one line it says – quote -”Don't have a place to run, but there's no need to hide” And in another it says – quote -”Gotta get away (tell my Mother)I gotta get away” Is there a message in there somewhere. MJ's Mother hailed from Alabama I think…maybe there's family there who would take him in?????
In a BBC documentary about 4 years ago MJ was asked, while looking at a replica of an Egyptian sarcophagos that was covered in gold leaf – very elaborate – “Would you like to be buried in one of these” MJ ponders for a moment and answers “I'd like to live forever”
If you take the Peter Pan stories literally, and if you've read them, Peters friend was a girl called Wendy. Wendy grows up and Peter is the perpetual child, remaining in Neverland. He goes back to Wendy's house and is shocked to find that she is a woman, and has a daughter of her own. Peter wants Wendy to be his Mother. He has been searching for his Mother throughout the whole story. Peter returns to take Wendy's granddaughter Margaret back to Neverland to do the spring cleaning…When he remembers!!!!
Maybe the perpetual child that is Mj has returned to Neverland. Maybe the pull of the place that he loved so much was just too great for him to resist.
Forresten. If “they” turn Neverland into a place of pilgrimage I will start taking prescription meds…LOL The audacity of it all.
The only good thing about Joe Jackson being on TV is that I can turn him off….LOL AGAIN
July 14th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
That was interresting. More proof that this so called “Death” Of Michael is a hoax
July 14th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
My youngest – Benjamin – the house philosopher – has just said to me “Why don't we give people like him their 'space'” You can only slice a loaf so many times before it runs out. He has a point. We, the “fans” should back down. Although we enjoy what the entertainer is providing us with, there is an aspect of their lives that you really would not swap. He couldn't enjoy being in a crowd without being swamped with well wishers. He couldn't go shopping without about 20 people with him. His kids couldn't go to a regular school because of who he is, imagine how much of that would effect you, and then think of how it effected him. I, personally, would want to run away.
If I found him, I would not tell any one where he was, I'd let him be. Knowing he was OK would be enough for me.
More profound stuff from Benjamin. He's been watching me type this….Got to go to school soon hun! He has just said….Could he be hiding out at Althorp Estate…Princess Dianas family home. He and she had a “relationship” that was based solely on friendship. Their parallel lives could only be understood by them. I have to allow him his say because he thinks outside the box, whixh is what we want. To understand a child, you have to think like one!!!!!! And where does a child supposedly feel safe….HOME…..
July 14th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Mr/Mrs Administrator… May I ask the question, where abouts in the world are you situated. This time difference is giving me a head ache…You are 8 hours ahead of me. That means, where you are I have already had my job interview….Did I get it? LOL and, here's a thought…If you are 8 hours ahead you can get the lottery numbers for me before they have even been drawn…So whats next Saturday's winning 6 LOL AGAIN
14 juli 2009 at 5:58
In regard to the headache…sorry but don't think we can help with that…if we could fix it we would
Yes we are ahead of you, but want to keep our location to ourselves if that's ok…trying to keep the nasty non-believers at bay and deter them from banging on the door in the middle of the night with pitchforks and torches (we've had plenty of nasty messages from people such as this already believe me), but in regard to the lottery numbers, I've had enough trouble getting them right myself! Good luck with yours 
MJHD Admin
14 juli 2009 at 6:53
I can appreciate your need for anomimity. I really CANNOT understand why people would be so nasty to you. If they were followers of MJ and believed the things that he stood for, then this would not be happening to you.
Maybe I am being silly, but you know when you get a gut feeling about someone, and you can't shake it off!!! Well with regards to MJ's “death” it's not sitting right with me. I don't have the empty and hollow feeling I got when my parents died, or when my friend was murdered (her name was Caroline and she was beaten to death by a bus driver, who dumped her body) I knew she had gone before they found her because I felt physically sick….Now, if I am to use this as a guage, then I do firmly believe that he is still living because I don't feel anything like I have felt in the past. No hollow feeling, no sick feeling…..in fact, if I were truly honest, I feel elated…I feel that he is where he wants to be and that the “death” thing was a hoax.
I mentioned in an earlier posting that I had been studying the so called “last photo” of him, he doesn't look ill or dead. No palour, his face looks fairly relaxed, in fact he looks better in the back of the ambulance than I have seen him look recently. Hell, he looked better than I do this morning….I look like death warmed up. LOL….To end with a little black humour, my husbands late Grandmother – Hilda – used to say to us “I'm knocking on deaths door you know” (she was in her 90's) One day I said that he can't have been in because she was still with us, but went on to say 'What colour it was?', she never mentioned it again. Bless you Hilda LOL
July 14th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv9lL-Lyu2A&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3sYg8fhNoI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miBfwWHSmb8&NR=1
The lyrics are very “telling” Take a listen…..
July 14th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/07/14/michael-jackson-must-be-saved-from-ghoulish-fans-115875-21517930/
This page may disappear becuse it's today's Daily Mirror. Basically it's saying that MJ's body was kept in Berry Gory's family crypt until the police were satisfied that they had covered all avenues of enquiry. They cannot bury him yet – apparently!!!!! It says that thousands of fans have flocked to the crypt because word has just leaked out about it…..I heard about it last week, just after the so called funeral.
July 14th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
The coffin looks like an oversized jewellery box. It's a bit tacky…The man had more taste than this…..surely. I still think it's a transformer….Decept a coffin – transforms into Posh Spices matching luggage.LOL
July 14th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
OK…I have just watched the footage of the helicopter taking the “body” to a waiting van…
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/showbiz/2009/06/25/von.jackson.body.transport.kabc?iref=videosearch
Dead bodies weigh a ton….no matter how large. they just lifted this one without much effort….were was the rigour mortice???? He should have been as stiff as a board, not flopping around Hummmmmmmmmm!!!!!
It doesn't appear to me to be a dead body on the trolley….way too thin…It's just a shape, not like a dead person at all. Strange stuff, I am more convinced the more I read and look into it that it is a hoax. Some one commented that his new album was going to be called “Resurrection” co-incidence!!!!
July 15th, 2009 at 8:37 am
That turned out to be a lie. That Gary dude said so himself
July 15th, 2009 at 9:43 am
Sorry “BelovedMJ” What turned out to be a lie. I've put so many comments on that I am not sure which one you are referring to.
Ok, back to rigor mortis….I am now an expert in the field. Now, depending on temperatures etc Rigor Mortis can set in as early as 10 minutes post mortem, up to about 2 hours…Full Rigor is reached at about 12 hours and it can last around 72 hours, or 3 days. Quoting About.com, they say that “Rapid cooling can inhibit the onset of Rigor Mortis” If my memory serves me well, the day that MJ died it was about 33 degrees – give or take, it was HOT – Rigor would not be inhibited. After death the skeletal muscles contract and are unable to relax, hence the body becoming as stiff as a board, heavy and unable to bend. Now, it's the word BEND that is the magic one. Even if someone moved the body in the helicopter, if they were dead as long as MJ was supposed to be, it could not have been bent, if you watch the footage closely when the body is wheeled over to the van, the two men inside just lift the body from one trolley to another it looks like the body bends at the knees!!! Maybe it's just my imagination, but take a look and see if see what I saw.
July 15th, 2009 at 9:49 am
My kids watched the helicopter footage earlier and passed this comment. Considering who the body was supposed to be, and considering the whole episode was being filmed, they did not treat the body with any dignity and unceremoniously dumped it from one trolley to another inside the back of the van. Knowing that the eyes of the world would be watching you would have thought that the men involved at this point would have, at the very least, proceeded with a little more reverence.
July 15th, 2009 at 10:57 am
Jeg lurer? Is this why they keep postponing the custody hearing for his children?
July 15th, 2009 at 11:23 am
To The Divine Mrs. Jones: Your children are very observant, and you are right,(in my own words
) it does seem as if the men are just dumping and passing along a “rag doll” to each other. It even looks as “the body” when being handed down from the helicopter as if the head bumps onto the gurney?
“It doesn't appear to me to be a dead body on the trolley….way too thin…It's just a shape, not like a dead person at all.” you are right about that! It looks as if they are carrying a stick or something. Now, I think Michael was a thin man but too be as thin as it appeared to have been there? I just don't know!
I also have a friend who states to be able to perceive when someone's spirit has passed along and she like your friend does not feel in any way MJ's spirit to have passed??? I do think that if he is with us, he needs time to get himself together, and get well. I can only imagine all the pressures he must have had, poor soul!
I am not trying to sound crazy or anything but I do think that both Michael and his family need our prayers!!! Gud velsigne
July 15th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Michael will come back to us, and face the public when he is READY! That is for sure. But he needs time. I just hope he is at some place recocering, from all the shitty things the media did to him, and all the false alligations. My heart is with Michael. I always believed in him, and NEVER once misunderstood him. I just hope that he will get the spark back in his eyes, wivh he havent had for a very long time, and mabye he will smile again soon. I really hope so. I love him so much
July 15th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
dear Divine Mrs Jones i totally and completly agree with you that,”If I found him, I would not tell any one where he was, I'd let him be. Knowing he was OK would be enough for me” . bcuz even after knowing what mj has been thru and if people still disclose about his whereabouts or pics then they have to be money and publicity hounding wolves.
July 15th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Har vi alle er enige er det ikke ham! Ta en titt, et riktig GOD SE! Especially at the eyebrows.
24 timer før:
http://image.examiner.com/imag ... .. sal (1). jpg
Ambulanse foto:
http://showhype.com/story/ok_m ... .. son_cover /
Se på form i øyenbrynene. The "ambulanse MJ" har øyenbrynene som går til høyre mot brua i hans nese. The "øvelse MJ" har øyenbrynene som slutter mye lenger i (det er en større avstand mellom dem). Den øyenbrynene også buede annerledes. Den eneste måten de øyenbrynene kunne oppfylle nærmere broen av nesen er om han var "skyve sin brows sammen som vi gjør når ble sint (Jeg kan ikke tenke på det beskrivende navnet på det akkurat nå.)
July 15th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
It's 8.30 in the morning here and I have to get Benjamin to school…The older offspring is sick….It is Benjamins last week at this school and the kids are giving a concert with solo performances. For weeks now (even before MJ's death) he had been practicing drumming to “Beat IT” His final performance, he said is, for MJ. Ahhhh!!! Benjamin is very sensitive and feels things really deeply. He often tells me that he does not believe for one minute that MJ is dead. My kids and I are best friends.
Going back to the “sensitive” theme for a moment…Dave the medium often asks his “spirit guide” about MJ and the guide comes back with a poitive “NO” Not passed yet.
On the forum of this site someone mentioned “remote viewing” which was used by the powers that be during the Cold War under the title “Stargate” It apparently worked. The government used RV because they found out that the Russians were using psychics to find locations of missiles etc. From what I have read it seems that the RV actually worked.
I am a skeptic, but, as I have said before, I am open to all possibilities. I have lost too many family members and friends to think that there is “nothing” on the “other side” Now, the theory behind RV is that you lie comfortably some where clear you mind and wait for things to happen…You begin to see images that, at first, seem hazy, but do become clear after a while…The other thing is that you need…or so it seems…is specific geographic coordinates…that's not too hard. Pick a place you think a person will be, find the coordinates and concentrate on those….again the theory is that you can see what is happening in that place, watch the proceedings as the happen. You can see them but they cannot see you.
The mind is a very powerful tool, we do not fully understand how it works, but if the mind is “energy” then there is no reason to suppose that it cannot be sent elsewhere.
REad this about RV and tell me what you think!!!!Got to go to school now….We're late.
http://www.fas.org/irp/program/collect/stargate.htm
July 15th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Just been talking star signs in the car on the way to school with Benjamin…Ben is an Aquarius, as is my husband. The older one, Adam is a Virgo and I am a Taurus.
I was trying to explain the characteristics behind each sign to Ben. Aquarians have a thirst for knowledge, Taurians are slow to temper (which he said was not true in my case – hummmm!) And Virgo's were perfectionists…That sums Adam up to a tee.
Now, Ben said if MJ is a Virgo – which he is – then wouldn't he make sure – absolutely – that his “disappearance” would be planned and timed down to the last nano second.
Virgo's make lists, then they make lists of those lists, and so on. They like order and they like to be in control of that order. MJ will have planned and devised his escape down to the last detail.
I think – personal opinion oly folks – that he has said “Right, enoughs enough, I'm off” Despite having numerous people around him I do not think for one minute he trusted them completely and that they only kept quiet decause of water tight contracts that they had to sign. After all, he was their BOSS. He paid their wages, the piper calls the tune so to speak.
Over the years the British Royals have had advisers, suggesting ideas to the reigning monarchs. Ideas for their own ends – I think so. MJ had “advixers” who suggested ideas to MJ. I think that he has said to them that he is going, they can do nothing about it because of the contracts. Were the contracts binding after death, unlikely, because I think MJ thought that he would go on forever, so he wouldn't need to add that into an agreement. Why hasn't someone from the entourage come forward – post death – and spilled the beans about all that they knew…The could make oodles of cash selling the story to the media. It's because he's not dead. They are still contractually bound.
Mat for tanken.
July 15th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Sorry about the spelling. I am trying to wax lyrical by typing in a small space. It's like Shakespear trying to write a play while sitting in a match box LOL
July 15th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
I have just been washing the breakfast dishes, and while I was doing so I had a profound thought…Not again I hear you cry! LOL
Lets go deep and spiritual for one minute. MJ's very being, his songs and his credo were that people would learn to get along because they have a common bond. They're all human…
I am typing away at my computer everyday, passing on ideas and snippets of information to all who subscribe to this site, I don't know you, you don't know me. That, to us, doesn't matter, we have our common bond – MJ. Whether we are black or white, abled or disabled…that hasn't entered into it, what has, is our regard for the welfare of a “fellow human” who has been through hell to bring us joy, and has had only brief glimspes himeself of that joy that he brought to others.
Thank you MJ for introducing me to some of the nicest, kindest people on the planet.
(Wipes a tear from her eye) I love you all.
July 15th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
VERY TRUE Divine Mrs Jones .INDEED TRUE.