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9:42 am August 1, 2009
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Thankyou Empathy for taking the time to post this for us. I for one respect some of the people who have your talent, although i have not been able to fully understand it myself.
I still am unable to work out what happened to our beloved Michael. I am still unsure if Michael did die or if he had to go to protect himself and his family. One thing i am sure of though Michael had the most wonderful gift, musically, but also he had to ability to love. I think that is why we love him and miss him terribly. If everyone in the world could love as much as he did/does then think what a wonderful world we would live in.
We only have to look what is happening on this site to see the effect his love has had on all of us. We are regular people, strangers, who come from every background, religion, class, from different countries across the world. We are here for one reason only, Michael.
I am saddened to think it may well have taken the death of Michael to bring us together.
I think we can all be proud of ourselves for continuing what Michael started. So i would like to say to everyone thankyou. I for one will now wake up every morning grateful. Michael has taught me to be selfless and to give. even if its a smile or a hug. its doesn't cost anything and can make someone's day a little brighter.
Sorry i do tend to get quite emotional but this is what i feel inside.
Thanks again your post gives me comfort and i hope it does the same for others who read it.
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Speechless, speechless, that’s how you make me feel. – Michael J Jackson
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9:43 am August 1, 2009
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Post edited 2:45 am – August 2, 2009 by MJ_forever
So.. As I could understand… your cards told you that Michael is dead, am I right? Are you a medium too? How Michael connected to you? through the cards or calling his spirit? Because the only way that you could possible connect with him is through NOTHING. Because if he is alive, there is no way he could possible be in connection with you. What your cards told you is not new for me. U didnt tell the most important we all want to know. IS Michael ALIVE or not? Could your cards tell you this? Have you seen the death in your cards in March when you made the first reading?
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9:52 am August 1, 2009
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9:55 am August 1, 2009
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I Believing tarots..
I dont think he is dead.. i think he is escape.. they pushed him too far and too hard and they forget listen to him!!
It was all about money… and they were not listen to what Michael wanted…..
I think he had planned this escape for years….. Now was the rigt time for him to do it…
And i think he will tell the world the truth some day !!
I love him and my haert is bleeding for him !
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9:56 am August 1, 2009
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Hey Empathy,
Thank you for taking the time to write that; I'm just a little confused.
Did you ask whether he was alive? If so what was the answer?
And, if he was alive.. how could he connect to you?
IWSICS x
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10:02 am August 1, 2009
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Post edited 3:09 am – August 2, 2009 by jewell
what a poignant reading…. thanks for sharing!
I have studied the cards for almost 20 years now also!!
the tarot never hold back do they?
The temperance card is one of my favorites… and is also the archangel Michael!
The temperance card also speaks of patience….
self control and waiting ….
and using your time constructively….
it is ruled by sagittarius which is 11-22 to 12-22….
but mostly is speaks of a situation in which all you can do is wait for results….
now that could either be the cause of death results or of the hoax ….
very interesting…..:)
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10:10 am August 1, 2009
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10:11 am August 1, 2009
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Thankyou your post is so genuine too. Unfortunatley some people on here have been playing with genuine peoples emotions. This unfortuatley has created a barrier so please forgive.
There is alot of grief, confusion, anger and alot of unanswered questions. I for one just want Michael to be okay, happy. He has absolultey nothing to apologise to his fans for. He gave us to most wonderful gift in the world and i wll be grateful to him forever.
I know alot of people won't agree with me but i am resolved to the fact that Michael will not be coming back. Whether he passed on or not i don't think we will see Michael again.
If i was to say one thing to him though it would be
Michael Joseph Jackson, thankyou for giving us your talent and your love. This is now your time. I promise to continue giving and will bring my children up with the same values. Please be happy, where ever you are.
XXX
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10:17 am August 1, 2009
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10:21 am August 1, 2009
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10:28 am August 1, 2009
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I dont want him to make a big come back….
I just want him to be safe and allright !
And IF he is hidding… i will never try to found out were he is hidding….. If he is hidding he had made a choice !
I i will Respect that ! He had his reasons to do what he does…. It is his choice !
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10:28 am August 1, 2009
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Post edited 3:23 pm – August 4, 2009 by Empathy
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10:31 am August 1, 2009
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10:35 am August 1, 2009
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Post edited 3:25 pm – August 4, 2009 by Empathy
If you love somebody – set them free –
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10:37 am August 1, 2009
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Thank you Empathy,
I'm not trying to sound harsh anyone here so please don't slash out on me… The death card, could it mean the death of Micheal Jackson the “singer” hope that doesn't sound stupid, but what I mean is I get the sense when I listen to him on interviews he's done is that he has something more important he wants to do… now I don't “know” him , I too grew up listing to him ( born in 1959) so I feel like I know him… also when being abused as a child , I could escape into music and he was one of my fav's..
So anyway, I feel he loves singing and his fans but he wants to be more personal with ppl and can't b/c of his fame. I just feel when you reach a certain age it's like where do I go now???
But I feel he has a higher purpose for being here on earth so I hope God he is still with us.
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10:58 am August 1, 2009
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11:06 am August 1, 2009
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Thank you Empathy, for your courage & conviction to post on this Forum. Your posts seem very articulate. I am one who believes in Tarot and many other things that cannot be explained, it does take an open mind and an open heart to understand Tarot.
I have been reading this Forum from the very beginning, as I had the imeadiate reaction that Micheal was not dead when I heard the news, maybe it was just shock, I don't know. I began doing my own search online and found this site. I was reluctant to post, because some of the things on here have degenerated to arguments, harsh words, angry feelings and examples of extreme fandom that were just plain scary to me. And of course the occasional poster who claimed to “know” Micheal, which of course elicited passionate responses by many. But, do to our amazing right of free speech, I guess it was bound to happen.
I grew up listening to Micheal's music and witnessing his spectacular performances. I have not “followed” him for some time, but have always remained thankful for the things that he shared with the world. I stated in a previous post that this site has inspired me inthe last few weeks, and ….I can by no means compare to some of the HUGE fans of MIcheal that I have seen on here, but I am a lifelong fan of Michael and my heart hurts for the loss of such an amazing human being, I am truely ashamed of how our society loves to build someone up to impossible heights, only to push them over the edge and delight in their pain as they fall……
So, again……Thank you for sharing, at this point I am at a loss as to what I believe…but I think that any input is a welcome addition to this site. For me, this site remains an outlet for ideas & theories, and my hope is that it will stay that way. The public may not ever know everything, and sometimes I think that is a good thing, but, for me, the main confusion comes from the numerous examples of inconsistantsies and conflicting reports from the media……
Thanks again for your posts, I hope you continue to share your thoughts….
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“…they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables” (II Timothy 4:4).
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11:08 am August 1, 2009
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Oh sorry .. thought the tower meant the death card, I didn't mean any disrespect.. just wanted to know other things.
No I not believe he molested children either…not sure why you brought that up to me lol.. i was just asking about what i thought when I listen to him talk, nor did I think you'd ask a great star if he's dead.I think you miread what I was asking.
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11:11 am August 1, 2009
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Empathy said:
bittyditty said:
Thankyou your post is so genuine too. Unfortunatley some people on here have been playing with genuine peoples emotions. This unfortuatley has created a barrier so please forgive.
There is alot of grief, confusion, anger and alot of unanswered questions. I for one just want Michael to be okay, happy. He has absolultey nothing to apologise to his fans for. He gave us to most wonderful gift in the world and i wll be grateful to him forever.
I know alot of people won't agree with me but i am resolved to the fact that Michael will not be coming back. Whether he passed on or not i don't think we will see Michael again.
If i was to say one thing to him though it would be
Michael Joseph Jackson, thankyou for giving us your talent and your love. This is now your time. I promise to continue giving and will bring my children up with the same values. Please be happy, where ever you are.
XXX
You shine.
And you are so very fair too.
Michael gave all he could give in some situations but it is true he was not finnished in other situations. Sometimes I believe in when you love someone so much – you let them go. Your attitude is so completely spot on and so nice to see. Maybe I feel I did the right thing to post here because I do think there is a subliminal message in the tarot for us. Maybe some people can see this and perhaps some may not be able to. I think your special.x
Thankyou empathy. May i just say that you are the first poster since 25th June 2009 that has made me cry. Not in a bad way but in a good way. All that emotion i have had is being let out. Thankyou so much. You really did do the right thing posting here.
Guys this person is so genuine i feel it.
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11:11 am August 1, 2009
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Empathy said:
Post edited 3:59 am – August 2, 2009 by Empathy
mo2kidzs said:
Thank you Empathy,
I'm not trying to sound harsh anyone here so please don't slash out on me… The death card, could it mean the death of Micheal Jackson the “singer” hope that doesn't sound stupid, but what I mean is I get the sense when I listen to him on interviews he's done is that he has something more important he wants to do… now I don't “know” him , I too grew up listing to him ( born in 1959) so I feel like I know him… also when being abused as a child , I could escape into music and he was one of my fav's..
So anyway, I feel he loves singing and his fans but he wants to be more personal with ppl and can't b/c of his fame. I just feel when you reach a certain age it's like where do I go now???
But I feel he has a higher purpose for being here on earth so I hope God he is still with us.
Hello, I did not receive the DEATH card for Michael – Im sorry but I think the posts have said I received a TOWER which you can see on the first link of the blogger. It is the very first card I received for Michael in March 2009. This card means many things . I did say that the Tower card can mean death, but in a FIGURATIVE sense as I was replying to someone who wondered if I meant death itself. By figurative sense, it means the end of everything as we know it and that is why I had problems myself ascertaining Michaels true current status. There is another lady here Jewel who it seems understands tarot also and she too if she knows tarot well will also accurately state that the Tower is a card which strikes our life like a bolt of lightening. The only thing about that lightening is that it is OUT OF THE BLUE.
Now what we have to consider is that when I first asked about Michael I did so in March 2009 it was just a general reading on him. I have done readings on other people, Barrack Obama for example who many people are considering is a 'devil' which is ridiculous, this is a good kind man who aims to help the country. I wont be liked saying that by some forums but whether true or not I was given the impression that he was there to do good or at least we would see it like that particularly for agriculture and food and the pulling back of weapons, all seen before reports were in the press.
Going back to Michael it was then, a general tarot – I had no ulterior motives for writing about him, he just popped up in my head and I thought at the time it would be a good reading as he was always pivotol in peoples lives. It was a mere coincidence in truth.
The reading was for past present and future that is why I always put in a clause about no guarantee of 100 per cent accuracy because if I say its a future event and it is not then it makes me seem implausible and also because I do not know what point in time tarot is talking about. Sometimes I am accurate with that but not all the time. The Tower is the death of everything that is familiar. It clears away the old and brings forward a new set of circumstances. Sometimes it strikes quickly like the lightening on the card. As I was the one to ask about Michael in a general reading, it may have also be telling me, WARNING Shock alert – but I obviously did not take that as a personal warning about him – because my question was about how he would fare for the future thinking about his concerts and the nasty claims made upon him. I could see they had a devastating effect that totally polluted everything he ever stood for. The paedophilia claims were totally unfounded – but they were always there.
Uri Geller in his recent documentary even said he had a slight concern about the allegations against Michael and put him under hypnosis to ask him questions that were personal. I hate to say, I dont think that was a nice thing to do, but then again, I am not here to hit on Uri Geller, it was his choice to do that and he has to live with the reasoning about whether that was wrong or right to do this without Michaels consent. What he said is what tarot told me too. Michael did not do what others claimed he did. He did have an obsession about children but in a spiritual way. Please see my remarks on the blogger in my first post for a link to the tarot of March 16.
When I saw that Tower card – I saw rubble – crumbling – a total anihilation of Michaels life as he knew it. Because he was 'alive' to the world at that time – it would not have struck me that he was going to die – I saw lots of bad behaviour from people around him as its written there on that tarot – but I did not see DEATH so I would not have had any reason to ask outright about death. I would not be a very nice person to ask when a brilliant star is going to die – it would not have entered my mind and that much is plain.
So the Tarot card of the Tower can simply mean shock – warning – bolt from the blue – all change – house comes crumbling down- people throw out of comfort zones into new experiences as a basic explanation.
I have said I will post more of the findings and I will do this.
Empathyx
I have understood know. thank you… I believe you! I will wait for more infos.
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11:14 am August 1, 2009
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11:20 am August 1, 2009
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Empathy,
Welcome and thanks so much for sharing these insights with us. I have always been fascinated by the Tarot, though admittedly, I've never had a reading. You were very kind and very generous to share your spirit with us.
All of us here that 'grew up' with Michael were saddened to the core when he left. As much as we'd all love to know what happened, I've resigned myself to the fact that it's not for us to know at this time.
Michael was a strong and creative spirit, but, as my grandmother always said, “Even iron wears out.” The weight of years of unfounded scrutiny, persecution, and false accusation had to have taken its toll on every facet of his health. Not to mention the desire to top himself. He was his only competition, truth be told.
So…whether he has transitioned into the next world, or remains obscured in this one. I know that he is alright — he was a spiritual man, so while there were forces at work to destroy him I always felt that he was protected — guarded.
If we never see him again, he made an indelible mark on this earth and deserves rest, whether in this dimension, or the next.
I look forward to hearing more from you.
Thanks again,
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11:22 am August 1, 2009
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Empathy, i like the way U articulated ur comment on the blog, but u're still in between… with due respect for wat U do, i think a lot of folks on here will like to know which part of the balance ure weighin on. i posted sum comments earlier on “MJ hoax death hits 1 million” n complained 'bout ppl who claim to be Psychics, playin with ppl's intelligence n love for MJ. I think i will rest easy if U were more precise. Whether we know him a not doesnt matter, MJ lived his life thru his songs..he wrote those songs n i believe he wrote what he lived/ stand for. I cant see him seperate from what he sang or wrote. U are what U think, write or say, I really hope he's fulfilled wherever he is… We are holdin up to the hope that “he's ok”, i truly want him to be. Ur write-up is the most upliftin n sincere i have read so far.. others are jus tryin to cash in on the brand name “Michael Jackson”
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11:26 am August 1, 2009
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Hi Empathy,
Thank you for taking the time to write out your original post and the replies to others. I believe you are genuine – but maybe as you stated, people would believe more if you could answer some questions for us about us …
That being said, can you tell me anything about me that would help determine how well you are able to “see” using the tools that you use?
Thank you …
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11:29 am August 1, 2009
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11:41 am August 1, 2009
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Empathy –
Thank you for sharing your readings with us.
If anyone becomes ugly with you, I apologize on behalf of the board ahead of time.
You repeatedly referred to the fact that Michael is an extrememly spiritual soul, and many of us on this board have agreed with us and have stated so. He has never been 100% of this world to me….and I wonder if that's why you are sensing he is currently of TWO WORLDS. That would make sense to me if he were alive, because it would mean that he is here on earth in human form, but also remains as a spiritual form from a different realm. I don't know — when I read TWO WORLDS, that is the first thing I thought of.
But other that glimmer of hope, I found that the readings were giving me very strong signals of a different picture of interpretation than what I have hoping so desperately for…..
On a sidenote, I found this statement especially poignant:
This card tells me that he has an obsession with children – but this obsession is rooted in a form of spirituality. If I were to look at this card and want a clear view of Michael I would say that his childhood being robbed gave him the need or obsessessive requirement to be able to live it through other children. There is definately a spiritual quality about Michael and all his talk of God is according to this card quite true. However this card shows me that there is an ignorance and unfortunately the nature of his obsession has allowed those who cannot transcend certain paths of thinking to feel that he has done very bad things.
“those who cannot transcend certain paths of thinking”. Wow, what a perfect way of putting it. Those that are unable to look into the soul of a person. That is exactly they way I have always seen Michael's public stone-throwers. As very shallow people unable to achieve any type of ability to see/read into the character of a person….
Please continue to join us in our journey….we welcome you with open arms.
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11:46 am August 1, 2009
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Post edited 4:32 am – August 3, 2009 by jewell
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To find the truth…
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Please don’t let that
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11:50 am August 1, 2009
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Empathy said: Michael also spoke about a dinner party – I have the dates for these postings so I would not write something that is a lie to you or to anyone.
“Had the most fascinating dinner last night with that guy that runs the world from behind the curtain.”
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Before you post, ask yourself – WWMJD?
In our darkest hour,
in my deepest despair –
Will you still care?
Will you be there?
In my trials,
and my tribulations?
Through our doubts
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11:55 am August 1, 2009
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Post edited 3:28 pm – August 4, 2009 by Empathy
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