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7:05 am
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thank you so much iloveyoumore  it's watercolor with colored pencil.
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7:07 am
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That's really nice.
What a fantastic feeling you must have to think of the possibility that he was given it, possibly kept it and probably would have liked it too. Good one.
Question for Empathy:
You say in your earlier postings that the fee of £10 will be refunded if we were to ask for a personal reading via your blog. Does that mean you aren't doing personal readings at all? I have a wee question (not MJ related) and would like a personal reading if possible but didn't want it to intrude on this forum as it's not about MJ.
Thanks
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7:07 am
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Post edited 12:20 am – August 3, 2009 by monalisa
sorry about double postings – it keeps doing that, my computer is acting a bit weird today…
but yes, I was so thrilled when I was told that he put it on his night stand, I was on cloud nine for a long time after that!! I was very lucky that my friend took it to work with her at Neverland for me I never got to go there myself though.
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7:17 am
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monalisa said:
thank you – that's so sweet of you iloveyoumore it's watercolor with colored pencils.
Oh, very lovely. Just a thought, but have you considered doing a piece related to MJ and auctioning it like this one on eBay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA…..K:MEWAX:IT
And then donating the proceeds to the Heal the World foundation in his honor?
Or you could even hold an auction here on this website since you love us so much…
Sorry for the peer pressure, but you have a gift! If I had any talent whatsoever, I would try to do something as well. I have no talent. None. Let the record show that I am the most untalented person ever to live.
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7:23 am
August 2, 2009
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monalisa
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iloveyoumore said:
monalisa said:
thank you – that's so sweet of you iloveyoumore it's watercolor with colored pencils.
Oh, very lovely. Just a thought, but have you considered doing a piece related to MJ and auctioning it like this one on eBay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA…..K:MEWAX:IT
And then donating the proceeds to the Heal the World foundation in his honor?
Or you could even hold an auction here on this website since you love us so much…
Sorry for the peer pressure, but you have a gift! If I had any talent whatsoever, I would try to do something as well. I have no talent. None. Let the record show that I am the most untalented person ever to live.
LOL I actually am planning do just that; I'm working on one right now I am a member of Heal the World Foundation, and seeing the post about the other artist donating their work on ebay a few days ago gave me the idea
Thank you for your encouragement! Maybe I'll put one here first!
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7:35 am
August 2, 2009
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I love the picture Mona Lisa – its wonderful and I believe Michael would have absolutely loved that its fabulous. What a great idea to help towards charity too – I think thats a wonderful thing to do.
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7:42 am
August 2, 2009
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monalisa
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Empathy said:
I love the picture Mona Lisa – its wonderful and I believe Michael would have absolutely loved that its fabulous. What a great idea to help towards charity too – I think thats a wonderful thing to do.
Thank you, it will be my pleasure and honor to do – they will be portraits of Michael – of course, lol - He is very enjoyable to draw
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7:48 am
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Post edited 2:20 am – August 3, 2009 by Empathy
goingcrazy said:
That's really nice.
What a fantastic feeling you must have to think of the possibility that he was given it, possibly kept it and probably would have liked it too. Good one.
Question for Empathy:
You say in your earlier postings that the fee of £10 will be refunded if we were to ask for a personal reading via your blog. Does that mean you aren't doing personal readings at all? I have a wee question (not MJ related) and would like a personal reading if possible but didn't want it to intrude on this forum as it's not about MJ.
Thanks
Helllo there,
I think it would be a good idea not to do any readings at the current time due to a couple of posts that appeared in this thread.
It is not that I dont want to help you – I do, but I did,nt come here to advertise tarot reading as was subtly hinted at back in this thread and I only offered a question to someone to try to show that tarot really can help deliver messages to support those that I had received – a kind of proof ….it rather backfired a little bit as it looks now that I am here touting for business and thats not true. I would,nt disrespect this forum by doing that and I dont want anything from anybody I came here to give.
One of the very important things that people should learn is not to judge others. I do know the poster from various emails who contacted me for my advice on Michael Jackson from my Blogger. I didnt seek the person out and Im still quite shocked that their 'forum friend' has been so rude to me just to support them. This is the wrong use of energy – always use your energy to be kind to others – it is this kind of situation exactly that Michael suffered from – a living example of people telling him what to do – and people judging him without knowing him. I rest my case on that one.
Much love to all
Empathyx
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7:57 am
August 2, 2009
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iloveyoumore said:
Jim Panse said:
Empathy said:
If you love somebody – set them free –
Empathyx
There you go… but then again there's a big gap between theory and praxis, isn`t there? 
I rather you didn't give me any of your treehugging love and light answers or any of that bs.
I know what Love and Light is and what it stands for. And you are not representing it AT ALL!
It`s rather the opposite. And you know it.
Wow, Jim  ….I've never heard you say anything negative to date to anyone — what gives?
Sorry to hijack this thread, but I think this might be very important. Or if nothing else, highly interesting.
Could everyone please click on this link on this thread – please.
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxd…..ti/#p36851
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8:23 am
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iloveyoumore said:
iloveyoumore said:
Jim Panse said:
Empathy said:
If you love somebody – set them free –
Empathyx
There you go… but then again there's a big gap between theory and praxis, isn`t there?
I rather you didn't give me any of your treehugging love and light answers or any of that bs.
I know what Love and Light is and what it stands for. And you are not representing it AT ALL!
It`s rather the opposite. And you know it.
Wow, Jim ….I've never heard you say anything negative to date to anyone — what gives?
Sorry to hijack this thread, but I think this might be very important. Or if nothing else, highly interesting.
Could everyone please click on this link on this thread – please.
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxd…..ti/#p36851
My post was deleted twice when I hitted “submit”. It's on there now. Please read my link & what I have to say on the bottom of the thread.
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8:24 am
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Post edited 1:53 am – August 3, 2009 by iloveyoumore
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Before you post, ask yourself – WWMJD?
In our darkest hour,
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Will you still care?
Will you be there?
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Through our doubts
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8:26 am
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Post edited 1:32 am – August 3, 2009 by monalisa
goingcrazy said:
Question for Empathy:
You say in your earlier postings that the fee of £10 will be refunded if we were to ask for a personal reading via your blog. Does that mean you aren't doing personal readings at all? I have a wee question (not MJ related) and would like a personal reading if possible but didn't want it to intrude on this forum as it's not about MJ.
Thanks
Empathy said:
Helllo there,
I think it would be a good idea not to do any readings at the current time due to a couple of posts that appeared in this thread.
It is not that I dont want to help you – I do, but I did,nt come here to advertise tarot reading as was subtly hinted at back in this thread and I only offered a question to someone to try to show that tarot really can help deliver messages to support those that I had received – a kind of proof ….it rather backfired a little bit as it looks now that I am here touting for business and thats not true. I would,nt disrespect this forum by doing that and I dont want anything from anybody I came here to give.
Im going to be taking a little break from here as I do feel a bit wounded by unkindness. One of the very important things that people should learn is not to judge others. I do know the poster from various emails who contacted me for my advice on Michael Jackson from my Blogger. I didnt seek the person out and Im still quite shocked that their 'forum friend' has been so rude to me just to support them. This is the wrong use of energy – always use your energy to be kind to others – it is this kind of situation exactly that Michael suffered from – a living example of people telling him what to do – and people judging him without knowing him. I rest my case on that one.
Much love to all
Empathyx
I am very sorry Empathy, I wish I had thought to ask you my question in a pm, and maybe these two accusations would not have happened. I know you have good intentions and were never soliciting anything for money from anyone. I for one have benefitted very much from your writing here. It has helped me feel that wherever Michael is, that he is okay. I hope you will come back and continue to enlighten us with more of your wisdom.
I would hope that the kindness you embody would be returned, and that the people judging you will cease to speak so harshly. There is a way to dissagree without being cruel. Haven't we learned anything from the way Michael was treated?
I look forward to hearing from you soon,
hugs and love,
MonaLisa
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9:16 am
August 2, 2009
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Thats no problem – you have every right to ask me something if I invited you and anyone who wishes any comfort or help provided it is genuine may contact me by PM Im sure the admin wont mind – and I am happy to advise you freely. I do not see why I should go against giving to people just because of what two people say here. If I stop giving then I get frightened away. Well I wont be frightened away when it is to help people and I extend that to admin if there is anything I can do for them too and to thank them for having me here.
I am only one of many people who have had messages regarding Michael I certainly am not the only one thats for sure – but I do want to offer a bit of advice particularly on the link that was provided a couple of posts back. I did write on it by the way to say that Michael still talks. He does that for sure. But – people – do not get yourself in dark corners with the content of that thread. We have to remember that messages are also responsibilities. We can give so much but then we have to know what is not in our best interest. The wise will understand. Dont grow a spade! I carry messages but I put my spade away to tend my roses – best place for it. Everything has a reason however poetic and unrealistic that sounds, it does – nobody can fight and overthrow what they think is 'evil' with sticks and stones -you dont have to fight for anything in life – you just have to show love and caring and make that the biggest and catching disease there is.
People dont believe that love conquers hate – but it does – but there has to be more of it for it to be an example. The more examples the more we stamp out the pollution in society – we just dont react or buy into the things that we know pollute us.
Its a long haul ahead – but with a wake up call – with more and more people to see or to realise this – then people like Michael have won their battle. He knows its not about money and possessions its about PRINCIPLE. We can all have principles silently we dont need to shout about them or rally about them, just have them quietly inside and adhere to them – because once there is a linking of common principle it will defeat the pollution. The masses need to seek that principle and harness it – in their hearts and in their actions – passivity is controlling your own mind. I think Michael was very daring and very vibrant – and his energy is flowing like a river in this forum thats for sure – but he did voice his princiiples – take that message and bury it inside you – its not good enough to idolise a beautiful man with a beautiful voice – its looking beyond that into what he represented – thats where the true treasure of Michael is.
Hope I have not been too outspoken.
Empathyx
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10:57 am
August 2, 2009
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iloveyoumore said:
iloveyoumore said:
Jim Panse said:
Empathy said:
If you love somebody – set them free –
Empathyx
There you go… but then again there's a big gap between theory and praxis, isn`t there?
I rather you didn't give me any of your treehugging love and light answers or any of that bs.
I know what Love and Light is and what it stands for. And you are not representing it AT ALL!
It`s rather the opposite. And you know it.
Wow, Jim ….I've never heard you say anything negative to date to anyone — what gives?
Sorry to hijack this thread, but I think this might be very important. Or if nothing else, highly interesting.
Could everyone please click on this link on this thread – please.
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxd…..ti/#p36851
I think this kinda stuff is going to happen more, the more we push… ya know it's wild how this site came about and now all the ppl here getting very close to seeing what's has been going and I'm getting somewhat worried we may find out to much, maybe we need to let it be for awhile?
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10:57 am
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iloveyoumore said:
iloveyoumore said:
Jim Panse said:
Empathy said:
If you love somebody – set them free –
Empathyx
There you go… but then again there's a big gap between theory and praxis, isn`t there?
I rather you didn't give me any of your treehugging love and light answers or any of that bs.
I know what Love and Light is and what it stands for. And you are not representing it AT ALL!
It`s rather the opposite. And you know it.
Wow, Jim ….I've never heard you say anything negative to date to anyone — what gives?
Sorry to hijack this thread, but I think this might be very important. Or if nothing else, highly interesting.
Could everyone please click on this link on this thread – please.
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxd…..ti/#p36851
I think this kinda stuff is going to happen more, the more we push… ya know it's wild how this site came about and now all the ppl here getting very close to seeing what's has been going and I'm getting somewhat worried we may find out to much, maybe we need to let it be for awhile?
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11:00 am
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I understand what MJc is trying to say, at first I thought why is she revealing all this information if this is a hoax this is way too much info that may spoil Michael’s plans. On the other hand, Empathy is giving many people hope. Hope that Michael is alive. All I want to say is DO NOT reveal where he is hiding or anything that may let people who where he is. Let us all respect his wishes to take time away for himself so that he can have peace, heal and be free. Empathy just to avoid anyone else harsh words maybe you should just limit the amount of information you give us. I love what you are saying because you are the only one in this profession that is saying that perhaps he is alive and I believe that he is alive.
Empathy please keep giving us your insights in this forum.
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11:32 am
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Post edited 3:53 pm – August 4, 2009 by Empathy
If I knew where Michael Jackson was I would never tell a soul, but I dont.
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12:57 pm
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Thanks for coming back Empathy…I really hope you decide to stick around and not be scared off by the unkind comments of others. Be strong!
Apologies if I caused any harm by asking about a personal reading…and I hope this hasn't led to any spin-off threads from others warning us all about the dangers of doing so etc. (I've just read what you got dragged into on the thread from No1 “Revealing Myself”…we've all become so suspicious!)
Anyway, I've sent you a PM but please don't feel under any pressure to answer me. Maybe just the simple act from me of throwing the PM into the cosmos it will resolve itself!
Thanks
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1:11 pm
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Hearing the message that Michael is ok made my heart swell. thank you.
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2:16 pm
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monalisa said:
monalisa said:
Thank you again, so very much! I found a photo I took of the painting before I gave it to him, here it is…
You have a wonderful gift. Thank you for sharing your creation with us. 
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2:28 pm
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Post edited 7:57 am – August 3, 2009 by Reflection
Thank you Empathy for your posts. I have not been in contact with Tarot before so I don't fully understand everything related to it. However, I enjoyed reading your posts. They feel very peaceful.
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4:14 pm
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Monalisa, thanks for sharing your beautiful painting…
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4:18 pm
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Empathy,
I do hope that negative comments from a few naysayers don't deter you from participating here with us. We have enjoyed your insights and appreciated your generosity.
To the folks that don't go in for this kind of thing, move on to something that is more your speed, and leave this woman alone. She has been nothing but kind here.
Geeh…
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5:39 pm
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You're very welcome, Reflection and Jory, thank you so much, I'm glad you like it
And I agree that Empathy's posts are a very welcome addition here!
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5:51 pm
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Post edited 10:52 am – August 3, 2009 by Empathy
I thought I would drop a couple of posts here looking at zen tarot. I thought it might help at the current time. My question was really centred around what I could tell you here and perhaps the best way to understand the situation at the moment and how to cope with the news that we have and perhaps the lack of news that we get. I am not sure if many of you understand the symbolism of this tarot but it really has a tranquil quality I thought it might help. This question I asked for all of you was given back to me in one answer – MATURITY – I feel this tarot is telling us to try to look at things rationally – and also to remember that people do change – they are not always the person we think they are – the blossom and they grow – and times change. I think we are being asked to accept this change and try to grasp this change in the right way. I leave it for you here .
The distinction between the grasses and the blossoms is the same as between you not knowing that you are a buddha, and the moment you know that you are a buddha. In fact, there is no way to be otherwise. Buddha is completely blossomed, fully opened. His lotuses, his petals, have come to a completion…. Certainly, to be full of spring yourself is far more beautiful than the autumn dew falling on the lotus leaves. That is one of the most beautiful things to watch: when autumn dew falls on the lotus leaves and shine in the morning sun like real pearls. But of course it is a momentary experience. As the sun rises, the autumn dew starts evaporating…. This temporary beauty cannot be compared, certainly, with an eternal spring in your being. You look back as far as you can and it has always been there. You look forward as much as you can, and you will be surprised: it is your very being. Wherever you are it will be there, and the flowers will continue to shower on you. This is spiritual spring
Maturity
This figure stands alone, silent and yet alert. The inner being is filled with flowers–that carry the quality of springtime and regenerate wherever he goes. This inner flowering and the wholeness that he feels affords the possibility of unlimited movement. He can move in any direction–within and without it makes no difference as his joy and and maturity cannot be diminished by externals. He has come to a time of centeredness and expansiveness–the white glow around the figure is his protection and his light. All of life's experiences have brought him to this time of perfection. When you draw this card, know well this moment carries a gift–for hard work well done. Your base is solid now and success and good fortune are yours for they are the outcome of what has already been experienced within.
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6:13 pm
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Post edited 3:54 pm – August 4, 2009 by Empathy
Only if your meditation has brought you a light that shines in every night will even death not be a death to you but a door to the divine. With the light in your heart, death itself is transformed into a door, and you enter into the universal spirit; you become one with the ocean. And unless you know the oceanic experience, you have lived in vain. Now is always the time, and the fruit is always ripe. You just need to gather courage to enter into your inner forest. The fruit is always ripe and the time is always the right time. There is no such thing as wrong time.
Ripeness
When the fruit is ripe, it drops from the tree by itself. One moment it hangs by a thread from the branches of the tree, bursting with juice. The next moment it falls–not because it has been forced to fall, or has made the effort to jump, but because the tree has recognized its ripeness and simply let it go. When this card appears in a reading it indicates that you are ready to share your inner riches, your 'juice'. All you need to do is relax right where you are, and be willing for it to happen. This sharing of yourself, this expression of your creativity, can come in many ways–in your work, your relationships, your everyday life experiences. No special preparation or effort on your part is required. It is simply the right time.
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6:20 pm
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Post edited 3:54 pm – August 4, 2009 by Empathy
Buddha has chosen one of the really very potential words – shunyata. The English word, the English equivalent, “nothingness”, is not such a beautiful word. That's why I would like to make it “no-thingness” – because the nothing is not just nothing, it is all. It is vibrant with all possibilities. It is potential, absolute potential. It is unmanifest yet, but it contains all.
In the beginning is nature, in the end is nature, so why in the middle do you make so much fuss? Why, in the middle, becoming so worried, so anxious, so ambitious – why create such despair? Nothingness to nothingness is the whole journey.
No-Thingness
Being “in the gap” can be disorienting and even scary. Nothing to hold on to, no sense of direction, not even a hint of what choices and possibilities might lie ahead. But it was just this state of pure potential that existed before the universe was created.
All you can do now is to relax into this no-thingness…fall into this silence between the words…watch this gap between the outgoing and incoming breath. And treasure each empty moment of the experience. Something sacred is about to be born.
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6:25 pm
August 2, 2009
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Wow, that is beautiful about the fruit tree Empathy, I'm going to read it over a few times… thank you
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6:35 pm
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monalisa ~ I just wanted to say that your painting is just beautiful…I don't even have the words to describe it. I am POSITIVE that Michael put that somewhere special so he could see it every day. You are VERY talented. WOW is all I can say. If you ever ever have the time to post more pictures, I would LOVE to see more of your creations. I keep scrolling up to look at it again (lol). You never know, there are lots of pictures of Neverland on the internet…you just might see your painting in one of them one day…wouldn't that be cool.
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6:39 pm
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Savannah said:
monalisa ~ I just wanted to say that your painting is just beautiful…I don't even have the words to describe it. I am POSITIVE that Michael put that somewhere special so he could see it every day. You are VERY talented. WOW is all I can say. If you ever ever have the time to post more pictures, I would LOVE to see more of your creations. I keep scrolling up to look at it again (lol). You never know, there are lots of pictures of Neverland on the internet…you just might see your painting in one of them one day…wouldn't that be cool.
Savannah, I have to agree with you I think that picture should be on every page here, its absolutely beautiful but so poignant our Mona Lisa is a true artist I bet Michael absolutely loved that picture. What a good idea to see if it could be spotted on the internet on Neverland pictures. If anyone sees it I do hope they post it, what a lovely tribute that would be for Mona Lisa. Fingers crossed x
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