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monalisa

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Thank you again, so very much!  I found a photo I took of the painting before I gave it to him, here it is… you were right! It was colorful


‘Te quiero siempre mi amor … sé que un día volverás’

6:51 pm
August 1, 2009


monalisa

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oops that didn't work..

‘Te quiero siempre mi amor … sé que un día volverás’

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‘Te quiero siempre mi amor … sé que un día volverás’

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still no luck… lol. I'll try in the morning after work 

‘Te quiero siempre mi amor … sé que un día volverás’

6:55 pm
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EM

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monalisa said:

Thank you again, so very much!  I found a photo I took of the painting before I gave it to him, here it is… you were right! It was colorful



Click on IMAGE which is the square of the tree on the top of your post…up will come a box – and if your image is in your computer – click on browse – click on the picture and then press open and your image should appear.


Im glad if was colourful – I did sense that – just like the window in that picture…a lovely gift xx


Empathyx

6:56 pm
August 1, 2009


Jori

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Empathy,

Thank you so much for the time and dedication that you've given to the members of this forum today. You were kind enough to answer a critical personal question for me today amidst sharing all of the insights about Michael's absence. Please know that your talents and connection  to Spirit are greatly appreciated.

I'm so happy that you've decided to join us.

Love,

Jori

Mistake not kindness for weakness.

7:09 pm
August 1, 2009


monalisa

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‘Te quiero siempre mi amor … sé que un día volverás’

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monalisa

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Empathy said:

monalisa said:

Thank you again, so very much!  I found a photo I took of the painting before I gave it to him, here it is… you were right! It was colorful



Click on IMAGE which is the square of the tree on the top of your post…up will come a box – and if your image is in your computer – click on browse – click on the picture and then press open and your image should appear.


Im glad if was colourful – I did sense that – just like the window in that picture…a lovely gift xx


Empathyx


I can't find the browse button, that is why I'm having trouble… the pic is on my computer though..

‘Te quiero siempre mi amor … sé que un día volverás’

7:11 pm
August 1, 2009


EM

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Jori said:

Empathy,

Thank you so much for the time and dedication that you've given to the members of this forum today. You were kind enough to answer a critical personal question for me today amidst sharing all of the insights about Michael's absence. Please know that your talents and connection  to Spirit are greatly appreciated.

I'm so happy that you've decided to join us.

Love,

Jori


We are here for each other.


Empathy xxx

7:35 pm
August 1, 2009


mo2kidzs

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monalisa said:

Thank you again, so very much!  I found a photo I took of the painting before I gave it to him, here it is… you were right! It was colorful



Can't wait to see it..can't paint myself but I do other creative things.. now my daughter has that gift but not me:)

I will check back in the mornin.


The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. - Eleanor Roosevelt

7:37 pm
August 1, 2009


mo2kidzs

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Thanks for your insight Empathy

Happy to have you here.

The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. - Eleanor Roosevelt

8:44 pm
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EM

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Post edited 1:45 pm – August 2, 2009 by Empathy


clover said:

Empathy can I ask you a question please? sorry it's not related to MJ, I started studying the tarot a few years ago and did a few readings for people and I started having really hideous nightmares which is something i'd never had before or since I stopped, do you know if there is a reason for this? It was very strange, tarot is something I have always been interested in. At the time I spoke to a lady who read the cards and she told me I should get rid of my cards and not do it anymore but never told me why. Any ideas? Thanks for your posts by the way it's great to get such wonderful insight x


People who do tarot should always keep their cards wrapped up in a cloth and put away in a cupboard. The cards if ever handled by other people can bring vibrations to them. Tarot cannot always differentiate between one person and another if two sit at a table therefore one person, one reading.

Every pack of tarot cards I have ever had and I have had a few – when I dont get good vibes off them, I burn them. I buy a fresh pack and the tarot pack often has to pick you. I have always preferred Raider Waite. They have quite heavy images on them and are quite severe but I think of them as clarity cards – to the point and no messing around they certainly are best for me.

If you have problems with tarot – perhaps the vibe of the cards is stronger than you can handle but thats not to say you shouldnt read cards – you can always use an ordinary playing deck. I used to read from an ordinary pack of cards that anyone had around the room – and they will always work for you provided that you are in the right frame of mind. Mind clearing is always a great problem with tarot – clearing it from everything before you begin. I try to focus on my question or a picture which often helps when casting the cards, I also find that from one card cast there is a lot of information gained from this and a good one question as long as it is direct can turn up a good result even from one card. People should always research carefully all meanings of the tarot as well as meditate on them in order to 'feel' the card talking to you.   I definately have had problems once or twice with a couple of packs but I know I turned to them in the past to ask questions that were borne out of some depression or worry I had at the time. We are never really supposed to use the cards unless there is a need to help another -  but we all get tempted and we pay for that. I know this because of the early attempts years ago. Never be afraid to use them but if you feel uncomfortable then try the playing cards. They are friendly light and gentle and they may restore your faith in helping others as Im sure you wish to do. Spirituality is a funny thing – we must always have a goal in mind when we ask something and it must always be to the good of another.

When people say oh its rubbish, I understand that – because there are those who say, why cant you predict lottery numbers etc, well that is self use of the cards and for selfish reasons. Nobody ever learns anything good about themselves with the tarot – its like overhearing a conversation and having heard something you wish you had,nt.  Please dont let your experience bring you down, just approach it differently. Some of us find other divination tools work better for us such as the runes, ICHING or even Sabian symbols, Pendalum etc, just experiment as they are all tools with which help can be given but some are right for some people and some are probably not – so please have another try perhaps with a different method. Im sure you will find it helpful.

Love and light

Empathyx

9:01 pm
August 1, 2009


FoundMe

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Dearest Empathy:

I have just finished reading all the messages that you were given.  I look forward to the time you can share more with us.

I am also from Michael's time, being born in 1958 . I am also a seventh child. Although the three oldest children of my mother I never knew as she had to give them up as she was too young,before she met my father.

My sister, she would be the sixth child, and I are extremely close and she too, reads tarot as she is Wiccan.  Not the goth, fake kind, but genuine and real.  There has alway been a touch of the spiritual in my family, mostly on my fathers side. My paternal Grandma received messages through the reading of tea leaves and believe me she was accurate most of the time in her interupretations. I have been told by my sister (#6) that I have a aura of that same spirituality. I have not seen it myself although I do pride myself, most times, on excellent intuition or gut feeling if you like.

I am writing this just to give you a bit of my background.

Since hearing the news of Michaels' death I have not believed.  Something inside me said that there is more to this than mets the eye.  I believe he, as an individual person, is not dead, but the Michael we have known over the past decades is. 

I believe he will return, but as a more mature, grown and softer man.  He will have shed his childhood, so to speak, and finally grown up.

I do not mean that in a bad way, I mean that, because of all the things he has been through he will have lost some of that innocence.  But I believe this will only make him more capable and strong to deal with anything that may arise.  He will be the same Michael in some ways, but also totally different in others.

I am not trying to say I can see the future or that I know what will happen, I don't.  All i'm saying is that, yes, I believe he will return, but not as the Michael we knew.  He will be different because he will be what he wants to be, not what others want him to be.  And he will be happy.

 Sorry to have ranted on and on, please forgive.

I look forward with joy to your next posting,

Till then, Blessed Be.

There Ain’t No Place Like This Place Anywhere Near This Place So This Must Be The Place

12:06 am
August 2, 2009


MJc

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Post edited 5:14 pm – August 2, 2009 by MJc


…Empathy: With my deepest respect to you, I also work with kind of things to help people and I understand your feeling to make the same (i do not have web site I do this in a low perfil way),  I ve read all these posts…and I have to say I m very dissapointed about all of these here. These site is not about us, is about Michael`s safety…..if you hesitated from the beginnig to write here you should have listened..I m very sad right now…be aware how many people visit this site, and we do not know where they come from, but we do know is what was happening and is happening with Michael (readings).Many strange things have happened in this site (hackers, erased post, people link to jackson`s closed enviroment posted here)…please I m not blame u (who am I to do it)I understand your feelings so I m just warning you about the real message that you received before: RESPECTFUL, BE SILENT AND WAIT.


I also understand all those fans who follow you, everybody here loves Michael, but this HIS TIME NOW wherever he is, let life continue its path..as you said before IF YOU LOVE SOMONE LET HE/SHE BE FREE….and I also respect all fans feelings about this nightmare but only God knows why Michael`s life took this way and I m sure that God will continue guiding him……

I truly believe that Michael is physic so he knows and feels this right now…..

Once again Empathy I m not blame you about your intentions I hope you understand why I m telling you this,but PLEASE PLEASE focus about the effects of this post can cause (I know you got it)…..and I m crying right now cause of this……we met before empathy and once again it is sign that we met here again…..(I know you got it too)

lol 

12:52 am
August 2, 2009


clover

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Empathy said:

Post edited 1:45 pm – August 2, 2009 by Empathy


clover said:

Empathy can I ask you a question please? sorry it's not related to MJ, I started studying the tarot a few years ago and did a few readings for people and I started having really hideous nightmares which is something i'd never had before or since I stopped, do you know if there is a reason for this? It was very strange, tarot is something I have always been interested in. At the time I spoke to a lady who read the cards and she told me I should get rid of my cards and not do it anymore but never told me why. Any ideas? Thanks for your posts by the way it's great to get such wonderful insight x


People who do tarot should always keep their cards wrapped up in a cloth and put away in a cupboard. The cards if ever handled by other people can bring vibrations to them. Tarot cannot always differentiate between one person and another if two sit at a table therefore one person, one reading.

Every pack of tarot cards I have ever had and I have had a few – when I dont get good vibes off them, I burn them. I buy a fresh pack and the tarot pack often has to pick you. I have always preferred Raider Waite. They have quite heavy images on them and are quite severe but I think of them as clarity cards – to the point and no messing around they certainly are best for me.

If you have problems with tarot – perhaps the vibe of the cards is stronger than you can handle but thats not to say you shouldnt read cards – you can always use an ordinary playing deck. I used to read from an ordinary pack of cards that anyone had around the room – and they will always work for you provided that you are in the right frame of mind. Mind clearing is always a great problem with tarot – clearing it from everything before you begin. I try to focus on my question or a picture which often helps when casting the cards, I also find that from one card cast there is a lot of information gained from this and a good one question as long as it is direct can turn up a good result even from one card. People should always research carefully all meanings of the tarot as well as meditate on them in order to 'feel' the card talking to you.   I definately have had problems once or twice with a couple of packs but I know I turned to them in the past to ask questions that were borne out of some depression or worry I had at the time. We are never really supposed to use the cards unless there is a need to help another -  but we all get tempted and we pay for that. I know this because of the early attempts years ago. Never be afraid to use them but if you feel uncomfortable then try the playing cards. They are friendly light and gentle and they may restore your faith in helping others as Im sure you wish to do. Spirituality is a funny thing – we must always have a goal in mind when we ask something and it must always be to the good of another.

When people say oh its rubbish, I understand that – because there are those who say, why cant you predict lottery numbers etc, well that is self use of the cards and for selfish reasons. Nobody ever learns anything good about themselves with the tarot – its like overhearing a conversation and having heard something you wish you had,nt.  Please dont let your experience bring you down, just approach it differently. Some of us find other divination tools work better for us such as the runes, ICHING or even Sabian symbols, Pendalum etc, just experiment as they are all tools with which help can be given but some are right for some people and some are probably not – so please have another try perhaps with a different method. Im sure you will find it helpful.

Love and light

Empathyx


Thank you Empathy, maybe I will invest in a new set of cards and try again especially now I'm older and wiser! Thanks x

2:11 am
August 2, 2009


Jori

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Empathy said:

Jori said:

Empathy,

Thank you so much for the time and dedication that you've given to the members of this forum today. You were kind enough to answer a critical personal question for me today amidst sharing all of the insights about Michael's absence. Please know that your talents and connection  to Spirit are greatly appreciated.

I'm so happy that you've decided to join us.

Love,

Jori


We are here for each other.


Empathy xxx


 Thank you dear!

Jori

XO

Mistake not kindness for weakness.

3:37 am
August 2, 2009


BB

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Empathy said:


If you love somebody – set them free –


Empathyx


There you go… but then again there's a big gap between theory and praxis, isn`t there?


I rather you didn't give me any of your treehugging love and light answers or any of that bs.


I know what Love and Light is and what it stands for. And you are not representing it AT ALL!


It`s rather the opposite. And you know it.

3:40 am
August 2, 2009


BB

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MJc said:

Post edited 5:14 pm – August 2, 2009 by MJc


…Empathy: With my deepest respect to you, I also work with kind of things to help people and I understand your feeling to make the same (i do not have web site I do this in a low perfil way),  I ve read all these posts…and I have to say I m very dissapointed about all of these here. These site is not about us, is about Michael`s safety…..if you hesitated from the beginnig to write here you should have listened..I m very sad right now…be aware how many people visit this site, and we do not know where they come from, but we do know is what was happening and is happening with Michael (readings).Many strange things have happened in this site (hackers, erased post, people link to jackson`s closed enviroment posted here)…please I m not blame u (who am I to do it)I understand your feelings so I m just warning you about the real message that you received before: RESPECTFUL, BE SILENT AND WAIT.


I also understand all those fans who follow you, everybody here loves Michael, but this HIS TIME NOW wherever he is, let life continue its path..as you said before IF YOU LOVE SOMONE LET HE/SHE BE FREE….and I also respect all fans feelings about this nightmare but only God knows why Michael`s life took this way and I m sure that God will continue guiding him……

I truly believe that Michael is physic so he knows and feels this right now…..

Once again Empathy I m not blame you about your intentions I hope you understand why I m telling you this,but PLEASE PLEASE focus about the effects of this post can cause (I know you got it)…..and I m crying right now cause of this……we met before empathy and once again it is sign that we met here again…..(I know you got it too)

lol 


MJc : I LOVE YOU! You have a wonderful weekend!

4:42 am
August 2, 2009


monalisa

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monalisa said:

Thank you again, so very much!  I found a photo I took of the painting before I gave it to him, here it is…



‘Te quiero siempre mi amor … sé que un día volverás’

4:48 am
August 2, 2009


mo2kidzs

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monalisa said:

monalisa said:

Thank you again, so very much!  I found a photo I took of the painting before I gave it to him, here it is…




Beautiful……..

The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. - Eleanor Roosevelt

5:05 am
August 2, 2009


monalisa

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thank you

‘Te quiero siempre mi amor … sé que un día volverás’

6:14 am
August 2, 2009


EM

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Post edited 3:50 pm – August 4, 2009 by Empathy



6:26 am
August 2, 2009


goingcrazy

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Well said Empathy…I thought the comments were unfair too. I certainly appreciate what you have brought to this forum and thank you for it

6:37 am
August 2, 2009


monalisa

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I think most of us appreciate all you are bringing to this forum; I had a feeling there would be one or two who would have something negative to say.  I like that you say it's important to learn the difference between emotion and spirituality, and that is what I am striving for.

Please don't be discouraged..

‘Te quiero siempre mi amor … sé que un día volverás’

6:38 am
August 2, 2009


monalisa

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Post edited 11:39 pm – August 2, 2009 by monalisa


Please don't leave

‘Te quiero siempre mi amor … sé que un día volverás’

6:44 am
August 2, 2009


goingcrazy

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monalisa said:

Post edited 11:39 pm – August 2, 2009 by monalisa


Please don't leave


seconded!

monalisa – where did you get the inspiration for your painting?

6:53 am
August 2, 2009


monalisa

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goingcrazy said:

monalisa said:

Post edited 11:39 pm – August 2, 2009 by monalisa


Please don't leave


seconded!

monalisa – where did you get the inspiration for your painting?


I got the idea from a tiny b & w photo I saw in an old Life magazine & thought it would be something Michael would like

‘Te quiero siempre mi amor … sé que un día volverás’

7:01 am
August 2, 2009


iloveyoumore

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Jim Panse said:

Empathy said:


If you love somebody – set them free –


Empathyx


There you go… but then again there's a big gap between theory and praxis, isn`t there?


I rather you didn't give me any of your treehugging love and light answers or any of that bs.


I know what Love and Light is and what it stands for. And you are not representing it AT ALL!


It`s rather the opposite. And you know it.


Wow, Jim ….I've never heard you say anything negative to date to anyone — what gives?

Before you post, ask yourself – WWMJD? In our darkest hour, in my deepest despair – Will you still care? Will you be there? In my trials, and my tribulations? Through our doubts and frustrations?

7:01 am
August 2, 2009


Rofibbs

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Empathy..i posted a comment a while back, maybe U didnt see it. Anyway, can u tell me anything 'bout me. Im an Aquarius 4 starters.. maybe that can se the ball rollin.

7:03 am
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iloveyoumore

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monalisa said:

monalisa said:

Thank you again, so very much!  I found a photo I took of the painting before I gave it to him, here it is…




mona lisa — beautiful!!!!!!  He must have been so delighted!  What medium did you use?

Before you post, ask yourself – WWMJD? In our darkest hour, in my deepest despair – Will you still care? Will you be there? In my trials, and my tribulations? Through our doubts and frustrations?

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