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6:06 pm July 17, 2009
| Hope
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OKAY. I know this is like my third thred in not very long, but alot of questions arein my mind! Theese forums have givin me soo many different ways of looking at things, and I have a real serious question.
Is it possible for the autopsy, or toxicology reasults to show it wasnt him?
I mean in order for them to know, would they need like DNA samples, finger prints, foot prints, or anything?
Really what I'm asking, is:
Is it possible for theese kinds of tests to reveal a persons identity?
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6:10 pm July 17, 2009
| souza81
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yes, sure. If they have DNA/fingerprints to compare with.
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6:14 pm July 17, 2009
| Miss Dahmer
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souza81 said:
yes, sure. If they have DNA/fingerprints to compare with.
yep.
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6:21 pm July 17, 2009
| mjlives
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It's only possible if they have DNA from the real MJ to compare, or at least from his parents. Also, DNA matching is normally only done if the body is unrecognizable, which it wouldn't be in this case, so unless they had a special reason to suspect the body wasn't Michael, they wouldn't test for it.
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<- smooth criminal :) |
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6:21 pm July 17, 2009
| charmed6
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Yes they could. However don't forget that Latoya hired a private doctor to do the second autopsy. With enough money he could lie about who he is or what the cause of death was .
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6:34 pm July 17, 2009
| supermom75
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also i was wondering if it is taking so long because you have to clean the skin of any makeup and when they did they found out and now they are teyint o figure out how to deal with it and think about it the jackson brothers are in jamaca right now till the 25th doin a concert lol they are really bringing in the money on this
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6:38 pm July 17, 2009
| NeverlandsFairy
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Post edited 11:50 am – July 18, 2009 by NeverlandsFairy
Tough LAPD has his samples…
Lets not forget snif snif what he had passed .
I hate T.S.
So for sure if they had “doubt” they´d manage to check the body.And every minute it passes I think more and more about E on his place.Tough…I also wonder if there is even a dead body for real.Sometimes I think E was hired to stand that show, posing as Mike on a such glorious way, as he had done before on Who is It and Remember The Time, but not really had died, and for sure not MJ.
PS:Sorry but I need to share this random thought.
I know its weird, since our angel was completly allergic to the sun_(Im very pale too, im brazillian but red haired and do not live near beach, so last summer i went to it, and kept my entire time inside the hotel hut, cause i have weird serious issues with sun too)….But can you think he might be hidding himself in some island on Jamaica?And they are also going there to visit him?To check if everything is fine?Dunno.Complety random.However was so tacky this trip, when the “deceived body” is lost somewhere or supposly froze on a fridge snif snif…They are literally singing and dancing during their mourning days…
Wow, if Mike was there would be so wonderful…I can even see him on a white suite, white hat, light blue silk shirt, under a hugeeeeeeeeeee umbrella, looking the sunset from some varanda of a hut. “romantic dream”.
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7:01 pm July 17, 2009
| supermom75
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well there is a reggae fest goin on from the 19th to the 20th i looked it up
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7:12 pm July 17, 2009
| NeverlandsFairy
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yep I just checked too.But who knows they are not using the excuse of the festival there to see him…As I said just random thought.Tough so many islands, many spots to hide…
And also SuperMom you are My Mulder!You are doing marvelous with E.
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7:28 pm July 17, 2009
| supermom75
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thank you i am working hard on it i am goin to call her back if i do not get an email from her within a week i know this is goin to take time but it is worth it she sad they are working on one why would you like to book him and i said no i just wanted to go see him and she was very quiet after that and he still has added new ppl on his myspace but he will not add me i am wondering why
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7:31 pm July 17, 2009
| mjlives
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supermom75 said:
also i was wondering if it is taking so long because you have to clean the skin of any makeup and when they did they found out and now they are teyint o figure out how to deal with it and think about it the jackson brothers are in jamaca right now till the 25th doin a concert lol they are really bringing in the money on this
seriously? wow that's not the actions of a grieving family
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8:03 pm July 17, 2009
| curious_george
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Frankly, I don't believe that the autopsy results are going to tell us anything. If this is a hoax, it's guaranteed (at least in my opinion) that the world will merely be told that MJ died of cardiac arrest due to the drugs in his system. I'm willing to bet that there will be a lot of “inconclusive” findings that will then lead to claims that there's not enough to “charge” any doctor (because think about it, if it's a hoax do you really think they're going to charge someone who isn't guilty?).
It's possible there never was a body to begin with, which is where I'm leaning toward. If there had been a body, SURELY someone from EMS or LAPD or hospital staff would have 'leaked' something to someone and it would have made the tabloids………..but there's nothing, zippo.
I think the stall with regard to the multiple autopsies and results of same is merely a smoke-screen to stall and buy time because perhaps they didn't think this all through and now they don't know what to tell the public. Also, once the results are in and the cause of death (or contributing factors to cause of death) is announced, then that means they can bury him…………and you KNOW the paparazzi will be there like hawks trying to get pics…………..but if there's no body, what are you going to bury? (of course I guess they could pretend there is one and we'd never know the difference).
I don't think the public will ever get the truth and having said that, I don't think we will ever conclusively know that MJ is still alive; short of him being sighted by a reputable source (and photographed)…………….or him choosing to reappear later on.
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9:06 pm July 17, 2009
| BelieverAngel90
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having a 3rd autopsy on Michael , seems very far-fetched …. seriously , I think they are lying to keep up the “Mystery”.
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9:13 pm July 17, 2009
| Hope
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I think there HAS to be a body. Someone HAD to be declared dead. If there were no body, we would know. Not everyone is a decent person, SOMEONE who knew something would leak it for money. Witch is why I think there isnt too many people involved with the hoax…
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9:36 pm July 17, 2009
| Miss Dahmer
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curious_george said:
Frankly, I don't believe that the autopsy results are going to tell us anything. If this is a hoax, it's guaranteed (at least in my opinion) that the world will merely be told that MJ died of cardiac arrest due to the drugs in his system. I'm willing to bet that there will be a lot of “inconclusive” findings that will then lead to claims that there's not enough to “charge” any doctor (because think about it, if it's a hoax do you really think they're going to charge someone who isn't guilty?).
It's possible there never was a body to begin with, which is where I'm leaning toward. If there had been a body, SURELY someone from EMS or LAPD or hospital staff would have 'leaked' something to someone and it would have made the tabloids………..but there's nothing, zippo.
I think the stall with regard to the multiple autopsies and results of same is merely a smoke-screen to stall and buy time because perhaps they didn't think this all through and now they don't know what to tell the public. Also, once the results are in and the cause of death (or contributing factors to cause of death) is announced, then that means they can bury him…………and you KNOW the paparazzi will be there like hawks trying to get pics…………..but if there's no body, what are you going to bury? (of course I guess they could pretend there is one and we'd never know the difference).
I don't think the public will ever get the truth and having said that, I don't think we will ever conclusively know that MJ is still alive; short of him being sighted by a reputable source (and photographed)…………….or him choosing to reappear later on.
The most logical explanation I've heard thus far.
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6:00 am July 18, 2009
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I read somewhere not long ago that there were autopsy pics on Perez but they took it down but they said u could still see them on myspace. I didnt check coz im afraid to look at them in case it was him. anyone willing to do that?
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6:38 am July 18, 2009
| GermanLady
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i didnt find some pictures of Michael at perezhiltons myspace
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7:11 am July 18, 2009
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I somehow missed the thing with the 3rd autopsy.
It would be about time, to ask a Coroner. Does anyone here know a Coroner whom he/she
could ask, if this is the normal way of handling such a thing?
And also, where I live there are legal regulations about burying (or burning) a dead body
within a certain time after death. What is the legal situation in California, USA?
And, if “there is a 'body' at all”, which I am beginning to doubt, why all that fuss?
People are corrupt and do almost everything for the right amount of amount of money.
(I can also be convinced easily about anything with lots of money!)
Death Certificate, Casket, Ambulance (?), Memorial, autopsies, fotos, videos, interviews, ….
Oh, and by the way: may the Coroner (Ed Winter?) simply give the autopsy and toxicology
report to any media? Must these not be given only to the family (whatever they do with it)?
Should it be base for criminal investigation it might not even be given to the family.
Last not least do all official findings have a significant impact on insurances etc.
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10:24 am July 18, 2009
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Just in. They autopsy will NOT be realesed for another two weeks according to CNN. Any thoughts on this?
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10:30 am July 18, 2009
| curious_george
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I just did a search on Google and the allegation that there are MJ autopsy pics floating around is BS. The only reason I even looked is because I wanted to confirm that this “rumor” is just that. There's a crapload of hits for MJ Autopsy Pics but when you go to each site, most only contain the infamous 'ambulance pic' and nothing more. Of everything I've read regarding this topics, I've yet to come across comments of anyone who's reported having seen such pics. To me it's nothing but a sordid, tacky, sensationalistic rumor that was created merely to pique the curiosity and get people frantically searching for the pics and “proof” that he is, in fact, dead. It's all a bunch of BS. Whoever starts rumors such as these should seriously get a life. This is a high profile case and you can rest assured that if he was dead (which I don't believe he is), coroner's office staff would be meticulous with respect to privacy and confidentiality due to significant risk of a major lawsuit for breaching said privacy/confidentiality.
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