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6:58 am
July 31, 2009
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Thetruth
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I already belivie that is was indeed Michael at that conference but I want to “kill the doubts”
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Love you Michael from the bottom of my heart! |
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6:58 am
July 31, 2009
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STARFISH1
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kk242 said:
im sorry but those pics make me believe even more that the 02 guy was an imposter. the teeth are different if you look at the tooth between his incisor and his front tooth, the one on o2 michael is set further back, also the two front teeth are dead straight – but michaels are not. Then you have the facial pics, ( with the chins ) they are two different chins – very very similar but no way are they the same, the bridge of the nose is higher and longer than michaels, the part under nose/upper lip, michaels is wider and bigger whereas on the o2 guy its thinner and shorter. Cheek bones are heavier and lower on o2 mj, the whole face structure is different, all be it this guy looks a hell of a lot like mj – probably with the aid if lots of surgery but it is not the real mj at all.
Ok,
Bravo, that's it, I agree with you.
Big kiss 
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7:11 am
July 31, 2009
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mmz
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It makes non sense to me. But every one is free to say its opinion of course.
ABout face shape,remember that he has lost weight..and it should be that also Michael should have a bit adjusted little things.
nose yu are right.it is not exactly the same same. But nose of Michael has changed a lot in times.
I was just trying to work on the strongest characteristics of Michael.
It is a pity he was wearing sunglasses…
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7:21 am
July 31, 2009
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deyana
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STARFISH1 said:
kk242 said:
im sorry but those pics make me believe even more that the 02 guy was an imposter. the teeth are different if you look at the tooth between his incisor and his front tooth, the one on o2 michael is set further back, also the two front teeth are dead straight – but michaels are not. Then you have the facial pics, ( with the chins ) they are two different chins – very very similar but no way are they the same, the bridge of the nose is higher and longer than michaels, the part under nose/upper lip, michaels is wider and bigger whereas on the o2 guy its thinner and shorter. Cheek bones are heavier and lower on o2 mj, the whole face structure is different, all be it this guy looks a hell of a lot like mj – probably with the aid if lots of surgery but it is not the real mj at all.
Ok,
Bravo, that's it, I agree with you.
Big kiss
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7:33 am
July 31, 2009
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AliaX
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The teeth and hair are not useful clues because are very easily changeable. In fact, Michael'aesthetic is not a clue. He changed his physiognomy with surgery, and, for several years, no one knew how he looks like. The only trust witnesses are the dancers who saw him at the rehearsals, but we have vagues pictures from rehearsals.
The teeth are a good clue if we should see the dental works, the obturations (I don't know the correct term, but you know what I mean).
The mannerism do not change, is true. But under the influence of chemicals, a man can become a completely different one. Which would explain also the dry speech, devoid of ideas. Maybe we should be more sure about O2 identity, if he tryed to sing or dance. But, with drugs, nothing is conclusively. Unfortunately, we can use the intuition, but we can't do a scientific comparison.
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8:53 am
July 31, 2009
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Hideaway
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Post edited 1:55 am – August 1, 2009 by Hideaway
That was the real MJ at the March O2 concerts announcements. I almost hate to admit it, because he looked so different from himself yet again…ugh. But the teeth don't lie. Look at each individual tooth and how it compares in these pics. Also notice the smile is the same. The biggest difference in the smile from the 1980s to now is the 2009 pics show his upper lip was augmented, so it covers his upper teeth a bit more (too bad – not as radiant  ) altering his smile a bit, but it's still him.
http://img200.imageshack.us/im…..pare02.jpg
http://img22.imageshack.us/img…..pare01.jpg
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Anderson Cooper 29Jul09: “Joe Jackson does not make sense when he talks. I’m serious. I’ve never heard someone who makes less sense when he talks. It’s like a Rorschach test. You can pick out anything you want from what Joe Jackson says.” |
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8:58 am
July 31, 2009
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mmz
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Now..here it is the hands…also this comparison show that it is same hand.
Consider that the one at conference is a bit back inclinated.That make it seem larger and smaller.Just optical illusion.
But it is the same.
here you can see the work I have done on hands.picture 2006 and picture london conference.
if some line are not so visible,it is also due to the lights.BUT IT IS THE SAME.:(
http://img339.imageshack.us/im…..hands2.jpg
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9:30 am
July 31, 2009
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hmm… i am not 100% sure that it was real Michael but i also am not able to say, if its not him- as many others here in forum said: we do not really know how MJ exactly looks now… he could really be exited or nervous speaking in front of the fans and media after a long time…i also read few biographies were people said, that his voice sound a bit different in real life…. and i also cant say anything about accent because i am not native english speaker….so if its really true and MJ talks a bit different in his real life than it could be him…on the other hand: i do not know a lot about pc graphic comparisons but to me the teeth are really bit different (which you can actually change with ops and stuff)….and i do not know how can you prove him being taller than usual without standing right next to him…
at the end only Michael could answer this question but at least he does not own us an explanation because its his life. Of course i want to know the truth because i want to see and believe, that he is alive…right now i just can hope so- not matter if he comes back or just stays hiding- if we really love him it should only matter that he is happy
what seems to be really interesting to me is that i do not hear anything about hoax theories in german tv…. in russian media they do talk about that- on the kp.ru site i read an article, where russian VIP were asked if they believe, that MJ is still alive and most of them said that they do.
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“[...] he’s not coming back because he’s sleeping with me [...]“ |
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9:44 am
July 31, 2009
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mmz
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hello phoenix..
have you seen the link with the comparison of teeth,smile,and hands…I put it in the forum.
I am not insisting so much because I want to say he is dead. But just that after comparison no one can deny it is the same person!!! ANd when i read people writing that the guy at the conference was an impostor,it makes me sad..if Michael can hear us,it is not nice our attitude.Let'say that we are 50% and 50%.It can be he faked his death,or he can be really dead.At now no news that help us to solve the doubt. It is just a big mess…
In Italy neither…no hoax theory around… just me.:))))) joke..also some of my friends.
I have a question:
is this site never updated by administrator?..more news,or new prooves… it is just all up to us?
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9:49 am
July 31, 2009
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mmz
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I was forgetting phoenix.
concerning the teeth, a dentist,a friend of mine,after having shown the pictures has said no doubt it is the same(ehi,pictures are from web sites! I have not used any tool for changing them!!!!I would have preferred it was a different person!)
about him being taller,it was just an answer to who said that the guy there is taller than Michael Jackson.As you say….nobody knows.
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9:53 am
July 31, 2009
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phoenix said:
what seems to be really interesting to me is that i do not hear anything about hoax theories in german tv….
It's just because they are ignoring the whole story! *gg
kk242 said:
Then you have the facial pics, ( with the chins ) they are two different chins – very very similar but no way are they the same, the bridge of the nose is higher and longer than michaels, the part under nose/upper lip, michaels is wider and bigger whereas on the o2 guy its thinner and shorter. Cheek bones are heavier and lower on o2 mj, the whole face structure is different, all be it this guy looks a hell of a lot like mj – probably with the aid if lots of surgery but it is not the real mj at all.
Listen to what Dr. Klein said – 1:25: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v….._UVXpNQQKc
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10:04 am
July 31, 2009
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phoenix
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@ antigone
well yeah, they do ignore thought Torgen on Frühstücksfernsehen keeps saying “its very mysterious” lol…
@mmz
as i said, its like 50 % to 50% possibility, i am not saying you are wrong but also not saying you are right…just because there is a possibility that Michael was really on O2 that does not mean that he is not alive you know
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“[...] he’s not coming back because he’s sleeping with me [...]“ |
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10:04 am
July 31, 2009
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AliaX
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Michael's teeth have not changed at all in 20 years? let me laugh! is clear that his teeth suffered dental changes, maybe new teeth. The colour is unnatural. In fact, a dentist told me this.
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2:32 pm
July 31, 2009
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Damion
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I agree with Hideaway and mmz. I think the O2 guy is not an imposter. I explained why in this thread:
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxd…..ooking-for
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3:48 pm
July 31, 2009
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mmz
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