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12:24 pm
July 29, 2009


flower

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Perhaps the most disturbing story was one we found from Capitol Hill Blue. 

The passing of Michael Jackson raises the question: was he a castrato counter tenor? June 26, 2009 – 6:49pm.

I have been watching the intense coverage during the last 18 hours of Michael Jackson’s career offered in honor of his untimely passing. As I watch the images I am struck over and over again by how feminine his voice was, how feminine his face was or what was left of it after so much knife work—even how lacking of male secondary sexual characteristics he seemed to be.

I am forced to remember the castratos of Italian opera whose amazing young voices were preserved by the now taboo procedure of castration producing the counter tenor voice of the castrati.

Listening to Jackson recount his unhappy childhood and the monstrous exploitation of his talent he endured at the hands of his father, I am frightened to wonder if he did not endure similar treatment to produce this amazing counter tenor voice that made him such a star.

Surely, had puberty done its thing, his voice would have dropped to the normal tenor range and his body would have shown the masculinity puberty produces in men. I could imagine that this voice was falsetto, the forced counter tenor voice of an intact male. But in all his interviews that amazing counter tenor voice remains and endures.

This would explain so much. Not only his amazing counter tenor voice and his feminine form, but also his difficulty in fathering children so that arcane maneuvers were required to produce three children. We still do not know where the third child came from, as I heard this morning.

It might also explain why he was unable to sustain marital relationships with his two wives, the second of which was seemingly bought and paid for as a surrogate mother.

It would be interesting to do paternity tests on the children to see if they were in fact his biological children or if they were gotten with borrowed semen. That would make a wild ride of the inheritance battles about to take place.

The androgyne that was Michael Jackson was a constructed persona even more than any celebrity has ever been constructed.

Even in the music videos where he struggles to exert his macho identity, there is a clear awkwardness and faux persona in evidence.

This would explain why he could so resolutely assert that there was no possibility of sexual contact between himself and the children he took to his bed. In the two interviews where he is pressed to defend this behavior there is an inexplicable persistence in his demand that he could never hurt a child and that he could never be a pedophile. And were he a castrato he might clearly be telling the truth.

And like the Peter Pan character he so loved, his refusal to grow up might be the result of a surgical intervention in the biological processes of maturation.

Such is the taboo and revulsion of this surgery that I doubt we will ever know the truth of this question, but it seems such a likely possibility it wants discussion. And as I am sure to catch hell for even raising this possibility, let me assure my fellow bloggers that I am in as much awe of his career and contributions to American Popular music as anyone could be. But there is this conjecture that fascinates me.

-Wikipedia A castrato is a man with a singing voice equivalent to that of a soprano, mezzo-soprano, or contralto voice produced by castration of the singer before puberty or one who, because of an endocrinological condition, never reaches sexual maturity.Castration before puberty (or in its early stages) prevents a boy’s larynx from being transformed by the normal physiological events of puberty. As a result, the vocal range of prepubescence (shared by both sexes) is largely retained, and the voice develops into adulthood in a unique way. As the castrato’s body grew, his lack of testosterone meant that his epiphyses (bone-joints) did not harden in the normal manner. Thus the limbs of the castrati often grew unusually long, as did the bones of their ribs. This, combined with intensive training, gave them unrivaled lung-power and breath capacity. Operating through small, child-sized vocal cords, their voices were also extraordinarily flexible, and quite different from the equivalent adult female voice, as well as higher vocal ranges of the uncastrated adult male. Let’s look at the historical application for castration: Sexual:Castration play is one of many fetishes within the BDSM community although it is not as well known by the mainstream. In castration play, one simulates the after effects of castration without going all the way to castration. In Europe, when women were not permitted to sing in church or cathedral choirs in the Roman Catholic Church, boys were sometimes castrated to prevent their voices breaking at puberty and to develop a special high voice. The first documents mentioning castrati are Italian church records from the 1550s. In the baroque music era these singers were highly appreciated by Opera composers as well. Famous castrati include Farinelli, Senesino, Carestini, and Caffarelli. Joseph Haydn was almost castrated. The last castrato was Alessandro Moreschi (1858-1922) who served in the Sistine Chapel Choir. The latest revelation about Michael Jackson is that he is NOT the biological parent of any of his children. In fact, Debbie Rowe, the mother of two of his children, has reportedly confessed that neither she nor Jackson are the biological parents of their children. It was an in vitro procedure and Ms. Rowe was a paid surrogate (over a period of years, Jackson paid her $8.5 million for the use of her womb). According to Rowe, she and Jackson never lived or slept together during their 3-year “marriage”, nor did they ever have sex. The surrogate who delivered Jackson’s third child, didn’t even know the identity of the “receiving” parent. The public was led to believe that these were all Jackson’s offspring. Apparently, that was a lie. (NOTE: It has been recently reported that Ms. Rowe is willing to take a DNA test to prove that she is the biological parent of the two kids, but that hasn’t been confirmed).The question is, why did Jackson have to go to these lengths to have children? I have a theory about the whole subject, and that’s just what it is a theory.I don’t think Michael Jackson was capable of having children. I think that, in addition to all the surgical procedures he had performed on his face, he also had another one performed that would help preserve the unique, youthful quality of his voice, maintain his slender, effeminate physique (which hovered between 110 and 120 pounds), and eliminate the need for shaving. One cannot ignore the fact that none of Jackson’s four brothers or his parents shared any of these physical characteristics. (Some have suggested that Joe Jackson, Michael’s violent father, had him chemically castrated before he reached puberty to preserve his high-pitched singing voice).Castration before puberty (or in its early stages) prevents a boy’s larynx from being transformed by the normal physiological events of puberty. As a result, the vocal range of prepubescence (shared by both sexes) is largely retained, and the voice develops into adulthood in a unique way. When all the rumors began to spread about his sexual preferences and the lack of any female relationships, Jackson decided to manufacture a family. This was after he had manufactured a phony marriage to Lisa Marie Presley, which was never consumated. Without optimal levels of testosterone in his body, Jackson wouldn’t develop normal muscle mass and his weight would be significantly less than other athletic dancers of his height. Now, I obviously could be wrong about this. Hormone treatments, or chemical castration, will have the same effect as physical castration. But there are other side effects to hormone therapy that would have been difficult for Jackson to conceal. But, either way, this would explain a lot of things about Jackson’s appearance and his private behavior. This is also completely consistent with the persistent rumors several years ago that Jackson was on a quest to remake himself in the image of Diana Ross, whom he actually mentions in his 2002 will. If Jackson’s mother pre-deceased him, then Ms. Ross was to get legal guardianship of his children. So the deep connection to Ross is a matter of public record. Castration is the amputation or removal of the male testicles. In the early days of choral music, some young boys were castrated before they reached puberty. This was so the voice would never change and always be high pitched, like a child. They were called castratiSome believe Michael Jackson was castrated when he was a child so that his voice would never get deep. Michael’s natural speaking voice was unnaturally high and very similar to that of known castrati. There’s more evidence that would suggest this is a plausible theory. If you think about it…it would explain a lot….Maybe even everything. If this is, indeed, the case, then one wonders if the results of the autopsy will reveal it. Of course, autopsies in matters that do not involve criminal acts aren’t necessarily sacrosanct and a powerful family might have friends with political clout who could easily have those kinds of revelations redacted in the final report. What we’ve witnessed in Los Angeles over the last ten days is an obvious devotion of city resources to the Jackson family, including LAPD escorted motorcades, helicopter surveillance, and blocking of thoroughfares to accommodate the family’s needs. There’s no question that the city is willing to help this very wealthy and reclusive family, at the expense of the tax-payers.

In short, if you want to be mad at someone and hold someone responsible for Michael Jackson, It is his father, Joe Jackson, NOT Michael.. Seen above pimping his own son (the real one) as he had done all of Michael’s life. that’s why Michael HATED him and got physically “Sick” around his father. Joe Jackson was the one who created this monster. He robbed his son of a normal life. He robbed his son of the ability to be a father – or a man. In the end, he robbed his son to be a happy, healthy human being and

12:27 pm
July 29, 2009


BellaFiga

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If he was a castrato, he would not have been bleaching his scrotum (allegedly).  That was when he met Debbie Rowe.  Allegedly.  When he bleached his ballsack it it went wrong.

12:31 pm
July 29, 2009


yaya

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um, if i have this correct, the article is saying michael was possibly castrated before puberty? i personally think that's crap. he sings in lower octaves in many of his songs. on top of that, there was a thread here with a bunch of pics of his “manhood” through his pants, soooo, yeah (i think that thread was deleted, btw). and i'm not sure how credible lisa marie presley is, but she claimed numerous times she and michael had fantastic sex

They don’t see you as I do, I wish they would try to; I’m sure they’d think again… – Michael Jackson, “Ben”

12:31 pm
July 29, 2009


tinamarieparker

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This is a lot of BS to me!!

12:32 pm
July 29, 2009


dontmakeitfactual

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No, he was no castrato! Sorry, it makes me laugh…does he sound like Farinelli…?hahaha!

12:34 pm
July 29, 2009


THE JACKSONOLOGIST

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WTF?


MJ is NOT castrated!! His brothers and sisters all have that high pitched “girly” voice…Listen to Jermaine. This is total bullshit. Sorry.

I did not read the whole thing but did they say HOw the castration happened? Did they cut his ween off or something?

12:35 pm
July 29, 2009


THE JACKSONOLOGIST

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yaya said:

um, if i have this correct, the article is saying michael was possibly castrated before puberty? i personally think that's crap. he sings in lower octaves in many of his songs. on top of that, there was a thread here with a bunch of pics of his “manhood” through his pants, soooo, yeah (i think that thread was deleted, btw). and i'm not sure how credible lisa marie presley is, but she claimed numerous times she and michael had fantastic sex


I posted a few of those pics!! WOOOT!!! Very endowed he was!!

12:36 pm
July 29, 2009


NoHype

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There. Are. No. Words.

12:37 pm
July 29, 2009


THE JACKSONOLOGIST

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In fact, here is one of them


12:37 pm
July 29, 2009


BelieverAngel90

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What does Castrated Body Parts have to do with Michael's Voice ??? this is too funny and disturbing.


“Michael … I understand … I am sad I never got to talk to you … like a normal person.” *Sweet Sweet Earth Angel A.K.A. Michael*

12:37 pm
July 29, 2009


yaya

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THE JACKSONOLOGIST said:

WTF?


MJ is NOT castrated!! His brothers and sisters all have that high pitched “girly” voice…Listen to Jermaine. This is total bullshit. Sorry.

I did not read the whole thing but did they say HOw the castration happened? Did they cut his ween off or something?


LOL. they didn't provide any details or the likings about him being castrated, probably cuz it's a load of crap and there's nothing to support it. and you're right, the whole jackson family (minus joe) is VERY soft spoken. even the girls speak extra softly.

They don’t see you as I do, I wish they would try to; I’m sure they’d think again… – Michael Jackson, “Ben”

12:37 pm
July 29, 2009


martha

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THE JACKSONOLOGIST said:

yaya said:

um, if i have this correct, the article is saying michael was possibly castrated before puberty? i personally think that's crap. he sings in lower octaves in many of his songs. on top of that, there was a thread here with a bunch of pics of his “manhood” through his pants, soooo, yeah (i think that thread was deleted, btw). and i'm not sure how credible lisa marie presley is, but she claimed numerous times she and michael had fantastic sex


I posted a few of those pics!! WOOOT!!! Very endowed he was!!


Endowed he was indeed.

There must be more to life than living…

12:39 pm
July 29, 2009


yaya

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THE JACKSONOLOGIST said:

In fact, here is one of them



LMAO. you crack me up.

They don’t see you as I do, I wish they would try to; I’m sure they’d think again… – Michael Jackson, “Ben”

12:39 pm
July 29, 2009


THE JACKSONOLOGIST

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yaya said:

um, if i have this correct, the article is saying michael was possibly castrated before puberty? i personally think that's crap. he sings in lower octaves in many of his songs. on top of that, there was a thread here with a bunch of pics of his “manhood” through his pants, soooo, yeah (i think that thread was deleted, btw). and i'm not sure how credible lisa marie presley is, but she claimed numerous times she and michael had fantastic sex


Although he and debbie never had sex…..

12:41 pm
July 29, 2009


THE JACKSONOLOGIST

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yaya said:

THE JACKSONOLOGIST said:

In fact, here is one of them



LMAO. you crack me up.


I cant help it….he was too damn sexy.

12:41 pm
July 29, 2009


souza81

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Whahahahaha LOL!!!


I only have 2 words for this: Gold Pants!

He looked me deep in the eyes He’s touchin’ me so to start He says there’s no turnin’ back He trapped me into his heart!

12:41 pm
July 29, 2009


flower

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so i see

12:41 pm
July 29, 2009


Annieisnotokey

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THE JACKSONOLOGIST said:

Although he and debbie never had sex…..


I wouldn't hold that against him… LOL

The beauty of conspiracy theories is that the more they try to talk you out of it, the more they reinforce the idea of conspiracy.

12:43 pm
July 29, 2009


bittyditty

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Post edited 5:46 am – July 30, 2009 by bittyditty


What utter rubbish. I have heard Michael sing low in many of his songs. Cmon girls we all know that there is nothing feminine about Michael. Just look at the way he moves. Why do people have such a problem with men being in touch with their emotional side. Its like well they must have been castrated or they are gay.

Get real and get a life is my response to that article.


And just to add loving those gold pants MIchael


Speechless, speechless, that’s how you make me feel. – Michael J Jackson

12:44 pm
July 29, 2009


yaya

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THE JACKSONOLOGIST said:

yaya said:

um, if i have this correct, the article is saying michael was possibly castrated before puberty? i personally think that's crap. he sings in lower octaves in many of his songs. on top of that, there was a thread here with a bunch of pics of his “manhood” through his pants, soooo, yeah (i think that thread was deleted, btw). and i'm not sure how credible lisa marie presley is, but she claimed numerous times she and michael had fantastic sex


Although he and debbie never had sex…..


well, look at some of the women michael has associated himself with: lisa marie, brooke shields….then compare those to debbie….mm, yeah…if there was any attraction, i'm sure it was one sided and coming from debbie's end.

They don’t see you as I do, I wish they would try to; I’m sure they’d think again… – Michael Jackson, “Ben”

12:46 pm
July 29, 2009


GirlInTheMirror

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yaya said:

THE JACKSONOLOGIST said:

WTF?


MJ is NOT castrated!! His brothers and sisters all have that high pitched “girly” voice…Listen to Jermaine. This is total bullshit. Sorry.

I did not read the whole thing but did they say HOw the castration happened? Did they cut his ween off or something?


LOL. they didn't provide any details or the likings about him being castrated, probably cuz it's a load of crap and there's nothing to support it. and you're right, the whole jackson family (minus joe) is VERY soft spoken. even the girls speak extra softly.


and…if this was fact, it would have been on the trials, when he had to go to court, because it definitely would have shown the jury that he would have been unable to do sth like that.

luckily they saw that he was innocent without him being a castrato! what a bs.

“How about that? I love you most! Got`cha!”

12:47 pm
July 29, 2009


THE JACKSONOLOGIST

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yaya said:

THE JACKSONOLOGIST said:

yaya said:

um, if i have this correct, the article is saying michael was possibly castrated before puberty? i personally think that's crap. he sings in lower octaves in many of his songs. on top of that, there was a thread here with a bunch of pics of his “manhood” through his pants, soooo, yeah (i think that thread was deleted, btw). and i'm not sure how credible lisa marie presley is, but she claimed numerous times she and michael had fantastic sex


Although he and debbie never had sex…..


well, look at some of the women michael has associated himself with: lisa marie, brooke shields….then compare those to debbie….mm, yeah…if there was any attraction, i'm sure it was one sided and coming from debbie's end.


Oh no doubt.


@ Souza….HELL YES GOLD PANTS!!! WOOT WOOT!!

12:47 pm
July 29, 2009


MichaelMyAngel

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THE JACKSONOLOGIST said:

In fact, here is one of them



OMG….i`m speechles…thank god no one can see me behind the screen….i`m a very naughty girl

OMG my english is too bad.Please forgive me!!I hope you understand me anyway!!

12:49 pm
July 29, 2009


MichaelMyAngel

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Annieisnotokey said:

THE JACKSONOLOGIST said:

Although he and debbie never had sex…..


I wouldn't hold that against him… LOL


LMAO!!!!

OMG my english is too bad.Please forgive me!!I hope you understand me anyway!!

12:52 pm
July 29, 2009


Andrea

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This isn't 'NEW' news people have been saying this about MJ for years!!! Also that he took 'female hormones'. Also there are stories that his Dad Joe Jackson kicked him in the balls a few times. Also there are stories Michael was sexually abused as a child. What is really true who knows? Michael had a lot of problems that was obvious to the world.

12:54 pm
July 29, 2009


Puzzled

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All of the Jackson kids speak very softly and gently – a trait inherited from Katherine, who speaks very gently and softly in a high register.  LaToya sounds like a little girl.  Jermaine is incredibly softly spoken. True MJ could sing a great falsetto but he could also growl and belt it out a la rock star – Dirty Diana for starters.  

There are dozens of hormones circulating in the human body, and none of us have the same levels of each.  Hormone levels are as individual as DNA or fingerprints. They can also be affected by external factors like diet, stress etc.  This is why HRT is so difficult to prescribe and is often a very hit and miss affair, which requires lots of attempts to get the combinations right.  Hormonal disorders of any kind are incredibly difficult to treat.

There are men who have slighter higher levels of female hormones, and women who have higher levels of male hormones.  For example you get women with a lot of body hair, and smooth skinned men.  It doesn't determine whether they are gay or straight, it just means that some women are slightly more masculine in appearance, narrower hips, greater muscle density etc. and some men are less muscular and have slightly more feminine shaped bodies.  One of the most feminine looking, softly spoken (and dare I say it slightly camp) men I ever dated was 100% hetereosexual and and putting it bluntly lol – amazing in the sack!  Also hormonal driven sex drive can vary from person to person. Some people can't get enough, some people can take it or leave it, many people lead sexless lives by choice, simply because they don't get the urge in the same way as people with higher levels of sex hormones do.

It may be that MJ has slightly higher levels of female hormones and this coupled with the voice inherited from his mother gave him a more feminised demeanour.  However, I don't have any doubts at all he was 100% straight, but may not have had a strong sex drive, and therefore didn't find it difficult to lead a celibate life.  I also think that for Michael, love and sex were inseparable.  He was never the kind of person who would sleep with someone unless there was a real emotional attachment.  Lisa Marie Presley was the one who fulfilled all the criteria for MJ, and according to her – there were no problems in that department whatsoever. 

12:55 pm
July 29, 2009


monique

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He was forced to have his genitals photographed by the police in 1993.  Had he been castrated, the whole world would have known.

12:57 pm
July 29, 2009


yaya

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monique said:

He was forced to have his genitals photographed by the police in 1993.  Had he been castrated, the whole world would have known.


excellent point. how humiliating it must have been

They don’t see you as I do, I wish they would try to; I’m sure they’d think again… – Michael Jackson, “Ben”

1:00 pm
July 29, 2009


Shikster

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yaya said:

THE JACKSONOLOGIST said:

In fact, here is one of them



LMAO. you crack me up.


Shifted to the left……nice position LMAO

Blessed are those who see and believe. More blessed are those who do not see and still believe.

1:03 pm
July 29, 2009


MJFAN1972

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I agree that Michael's dad robbed him of a normal life but had him casterated? Naw, I don't believe that part. As for him having a feminine talking voice, look how many years he had to sing in a high pitched tone, the crowed ate that up and when you train your voice to reach it's normal level when singing, your vocal cordes stretch and you end up having a femenin voice. As for his dance moves, he's good and he's done that for years. He became a vegitarian so that he can maintain a dancers body. His nuts are still intacked. His dad is a monster for the abuse and robbing his kids of their childhood and you are right, he pimped his kids out to the public and he is still pimping Michael out even though they are saying he's dead. Hense the word saying cause I think he's still alive.

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