Michael Jackson Hoax Death

well some people say we are crazy because we think that mj may be still alive.. they say we have no proof..

BUT : We also have NO proof mj is dead!!!

We didnt see his death body ! and the death certificate can be a fake! there were lots of fakes!

So is it crazy to say michael is alive? or is it crazier to say he is dead??- The man with most power!

It really isn't that hard for Joe or LaToya or Janet to give us some real proof that he is indeed deceased so we can all go away and leave them in peace.

MJ's fans want closure…the memorial was not closure as many thought it to be, it just added more fuel to the fire.

I do my best to keep an open mind on what's going on in courts and news articles, but it would be so much easier if a reliable Jackson would just give us what we want so we can go away.

Till then…MJ's alive.

Technically the J. family & lawyers could have proof that he's dead…a real, signed death certificate, photos from the morgue or of him lying in his open casket at the private funeral, knowledge of where the body is now (haha, I'm sorry, that last one still cracks me up).   Surely they know some of us speculate that he's faked his death, but maybe they just don't care to provide proof or for some reason want to keep every single detail private.  The privacy issue is a tad inconsistent, though.  It's not like the family hasn't given dozens of interviews since his death.  It's frustrating for us because all they have to do is throw us one bone of valid evidence he's dead, but they refuse.  No wonder it's just as easy to believe he's alive.

Hideaway said:

Technically the J. family & lawyers could have proof that he's dead…a real, signed death certificate, photos from the morgue or of him lying in his open casket at the private funeral, knowledge of where the body is now (haha, I'm sorry, that last one still cracks me up).   Surely they know some of us speculate that he's faked his death, but maybe they just don't care to provide proof or for some reason want to keep every single detail private.  The privacy issue is a tad inconsistent, though.  It's not like the family hasn't given dozens of interviews since his death.  It's frustrating for us because all they have to do is throw us one bone of valid evidence he's dead, but they refuse.  No wonder it's just as easy to believe he's alive.

I think that the jacksons have proof, they saw his body, and don't feel like they have to prove it…

and they most certainly don't have to share photos of his dead body!

I mean ,when i tell a friend that my dad has passed away…

they don't say “prove it!”

This one is going to go down like Elvis I am afraid!

yeah i agree.. but it would be possible that mj would still be alive..and i dont understand why people are laughing about fans who have hopes..because nobody can be sure whether mj is really dead.. only the family..

jewell said:

I think that whatever proof you were given….

other than holding his dead body in your own arms …

you wouldn't believe anyway! LOL!

I mean katherine has now said “My son is dead” …..

what kind of mother would say that if it wasn't true?

What exactly do you guys want the jacksons to say to prove it to you?

just wondering?

Yes I read that about what katherine had said, but did she really say it, is it on a video clip somewhere or just a press release? (no matter what is said there has been so much speculation I'm not sure what to believe) 

Just another thought, if he was in a witness protection scheme or something similar to protect him, don't you think she would say that my son is dead to protect him?

Post edited 6:56 am – August 4, 2009 by jewell

pumpkin said:

jewell said:

I think that whatever proof you were given….

other than holding his dead body in your own arms …

you wouldn't believe anyway! LOL!

I mean katherine has now said “My son is dead” …..

what kind of mother would say that if it wasn't true?

What exactly do you guys want the jacksons to say to prove it to you?

just wondering?

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Yes I read that about what katherine had said, but did she really say it, is it on a video clip somewhere or just a press release?

She said it in an interview ….

“The interview aired Sunday night on “Geraldo at Large” on the Fox News Channel.

Meanwhile, Katherine Jackson said in a recorded phone interview with Geraldo Rivera that she doesn't believe her son died of natural causes. The interview aired Sunday night on “Geraldo at Large” on the Fox News Channel.

“All I know that my son is dead, and I don't think he just died of natural causes or whatever,” she said. “He's too young to have that. Something happened. I don't know what it was”

http://www.google.com/hostedne…..gD99RH1DG1

pumpkin said:

What about the fact that Michael may have to be thought of as dead for his own safety, don't you think she would still say the same? I'm not trying to be argumentative just trying to look at all the possibilities to still believe………..

sure, if that is what you want to believe, then you should!

just please don't put all your hopes and emotions into it ….

and keep some perspective for the possibility that this may not be a hoax…

DawneVee said:

It really isn't that hard for Joe or LaToya or Janet to give us some real proof that he is indeed deceased so we can all go away and leave them in peace.

MJ's fans want closure…the memorial was not closure as many thought it to be, it just added more fuel to the fire.

I do my best to keep an open mind on what's going on in courts and news articles, but it would be so much easier if a reliable Jackson would just give us what we want so we can go away.

Till then…MJ's alive.

Exactly about the memorial not being closure.  there were too many freaking weird things.. .from NONE of his close friends being there and practical strangers to MJ speaking about him and singing, to the “I am alive and I'm here forever” thing, and the Liberian girl man behind the camera shot.  An songs like Return of the King, and the closed casket. (Which was likely empty since the body was supposedly still in coroner custody at that time), and then Kenny Ortega saying the thing about… Less than a week ago we were all here with Michael…

I mean come on… this many mistakes?  This many weird things?  NO ONE can get closure from all of that except the most casual fan not paying attention.

shell12 said:

jewell said:

I think that whatever proof you were given….

other than holding his dead body in your own arms …

you wouldn't believe anyway! LOL!

I mean katherine has now said “My son is dead” …..

what kind of mother would say that if it wasn't true?

What exactly do you guys want the jacksons to say to prove it to you?

just wondering?

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You couldn't have said it any better.I heard Katherine Jackson too,and that lady is hurt and upset,I've never heard her sound that way before. She does not have to say anything else,Michael Jackson is dead.That was her son,her baby,she is not going to lie on national television over something so serious.

but the day after mjs “death”, katherine was very calm..she was shopping… me as a mother..i would cry so much for my baby.. and i would cry more if i knew that my kid had a hard life,no childhood,and was beat…

mjfan said:

DawneVee said:

It really isn't that hard for Joe or LaToya or Janet to give us some real proof that he is indeed deceased so we can all go away and leave them in peace.

MJ's fans want closure…the memorial was not closure as many thought it to be, it just added more fuel to the fire.

I do my best to keep an open mind on what's going on in courts and news articles, but it would be so much easier if a reliable Jackson would just give us what we want so we can go away.

Till then…MJ's alive.

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Exactly about the memorial not being closure.  there were too many freaking weird things.. .from NONE of his close friends being there and practical strangers to MJ speaking about him and singing, to the “I am alive and I'm here forever” thing, and the Liberian girl man behind the camera shot.  An songs like Return of the King, and the closed casket. (Which was likely empty since the body was supposedly still in coroner custody at that time), and then Kenny Ortega saying the thing about… Less than a week ago we were all here with Michael…

I mean come on… this many mistakes?  This many weird things?  NO ONE can get closure from all of that except the most casual fan not paying attention.

I have to agree.

There is more proof to Michael beeing alive, than to him beeing dead.

The pain is unbeareble for me.

I need closure in my heart.

So far I havent.

shell12 said:

I heard Katherine Jackson too,and that lady is hurt and upset,I've never heard her sound that way before. She does not have to say anything else,Michael Jackson is dead.That was her son,her baby,she is not going to lie on national television over something so serious.

But any momma would lie to protect the life of her child if that adult child needed to hide in protective custody or escape from a dangerous/insurmountable problem.  She'd also go shopping at Target the day after the horrific news for sleeping bags & tents.

Beat_iT said:

i think the whole family's reaction and behaviour was too calm! i would cry so much as a mother,father,brother or a sister..if i knew that my baby -and he was SO GOOD! -had gone

im more sad thinking mj could be dead..than the family!!!

Please don't judge her actions…

we can't say what is the correct way to grieve…

Losing a child is one of the hardest things to go through and it isn't natural…..

and denial is one of the first stages…

I know when my dad died.. I would lay in the closet floor sobbing so hard i would vomit…

but when others would ask how i was , i would say fine….and try to smile….

so to them, they thought i was okay, but i was nowhere near being ok.

We don't show the outside world our deepest sorrow, or you would fall apart.

jewell said:

Beat_iT said:

i think the whole family's reaction and behaviour was too calm! i would cry so much as a mother,father,brother or a sister..if i knew that my baby -and he was SO GOOD! -had gone

im more sad thinking mj could be dead..than the family!!!

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Please don't judge her actions…

we can't say what is the correct way to grieve…

Losing a child is one of the hardest things to go through and it isn't natural…..

and denial is one of the first stages…

I know when my dad died.. I would lay in the closet floor sobbing so hard i would vomit…

but when others would ask how i was , i would say fine….and try to smile….

so to them, they thought i was okay, but i was nowhere near being ok.

We don't show the outside world our deepest sorrow, or you would fall apart.

I know it isent.

But its the familys responsebillity, to keep their stories straigth, so far they havent.

I feel so bad for Katrine, i know how much she loved Michael.

Noone knows if Michael would come back, if he is indeed alive. The death satificate has NOT been signed by any doctor, but Latoya signed it. Well it isent really her job to sign it.

That means, as far as i know (I dont know if its correct or not) That Michaels “death” is not leagel.

I just hope he has found the peace he so ever longed for.

But its the familys

jewell said:

pumpkin said:

What about the fact that Michael may have to be thought of as dead for his own safety, don't you think she would still say the same? I'm not trying to be argumentative just trying to look at all the possibilities to still believe………..

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sure, if that is what you want to believe, then you should!

just please don't put all your hopes and emotions into it ….

and keep some perspective for the possibility that this may not be a hoax…

God I feel so silly saying this but it's not because I want to believe it – I have to believe it. I've maybe gone down a road too far over this psychologically and I'm finding it hard to turn round, but I can't accept that such a beautiful person inside and out has gone – for what?  If the coroner or his family said he just died, it was heart failure – nothing odd about it – it just happened – which it does to some people .

I could accept that easier than thinking he has fallen foul of some arse inadequate doctor who happened to be just plain incompetent and accidentally killed one of the nicest people to walk this earth in my lifetime, or that he was murdered for whatever reason, but the fact that the coroner hasn't released the autopsy report to say it was just a normal death is eating at my soul, (yes I know there are people on here who'd say get a grip, you didn't know him). But everyone has to believe in what they want to, or need to as you say.