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8:06 pm July 29, 2009
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Up until this point I've mostly been commentating on other people's conspiracy theories, but I came up with my own now. Please take this in the spirit it's given, as a thought experiment only and not as something I “believe” to be factual. I remain agnostic on the entire Michael Jackson situation but this theory I came up with captured my imagination and I want to share it in more full detail.
There is a conspiracy theory that Elvis faked his death and went into deep undercover working with the DEA. Now we know that MJ supposedly spoke with Lisa Marie about fearing he'd become like Elvis. We know he once had a prescription drug problem, and we know he was at one point at least a little bit obsessed with Elvis. What if… in this obsession about Elvis, he read about the conspiracy theory that talks about Elvis going into deep cover with the DEA? What if he determined that whether the conspiracy theory was true or not he wanted to do something to help as well?
MJ is known for BIG gestures and BIG movements to solve problems. When he had his Pepsi Accident he started the Michael Jackson Burn Center for children. If he had a problem with RX drugs, surely he had to have some anger toward the doctors who helped make it happen if he recognized it as a problem… which he stated at one point that he did.
So what if he got in contact with the DEA and wanted to help? I'm expected to believe he had 19 enabling doctors and all these fake names he used to get drugs. That he was this totally drugged out person when there is practically no evidence to support this assertion. Also, why aren't there investigations in Ireland and Bahrain? Wouldn't he have had to have had many enabling doctors in those countries too? Or is his drug addiction supposed to be a new habit he picked up since coming back to the US? And if so, how does that make sense?
Let's suppose that he's actually involved in a large sting operation with the DEA (much like when police officers do sting operations to crack down on prostitution.) He's used as a “lure” to bring in these doctors. Which would explain neatly why a man as smart as Michael Jackson would INSIST that Doctor Murray be hired by AEG as his personal physician. Murray supposedly has many high profile clients and he's a very shady doctor. Perhaps MJ wanted to help bring him down.
The concert series may have been a good excuse to bring Dr. Murray in as the primary focus. (Though at some point 18 other enabling doctors were brought on this titanic as well.) For a whole year up until his “death,” MJ goes to the doctor a lot. There are all kinds of rumors flying around about his health, and even possible drug use.
During the concert announcement for the O2 concerts, MJ acts very strange, like he's on drugs. Which is necessary, because if all these doctors are enabling him, they're probably going to expect him to be acting a little drugged. They might get a little suspicious if MJ stays on top of things.
Something went wrong. And Murray actually manages to inject MJ with something. Maybe MJ was supposed to be injected with something completely inert, but something went wrong and he was actually injected with the Diprivan. MJ goes into a coma (which is why the news reports started out with the coma story.) Murray flees the hospital.
Officials that MJ has been working with get to the hospital and speak with the family, letting them know what has been going on and that it is important to let the world think MJ was abusing RX drugs because it's for a greater good (bringing down these shady doctors.) MJ is then moved into protective custody while the world believes he has died.
MJ either remains in a coma or has woken up, but either way, is in protective custody while the DEA continues their work and wraps up their case. They allow MJ to be reported dead for a few reasons:
1. If Murray believes MJ is dead then he's going to start acting really shady, even more shady than before. He'll start screwing up, and they'll be on his every move.
2. MJ has several enemies and if it were known he was in a coma then someone might try to “finish the job.”
3. It's cheaper for LA if MJ is “dead” than if people are constantly at his hospital holding vigils and such and clogging traffic.
4. The DEA needs to wrap up it's investigation and with it's main witness “dead” it gives a good excuse to start really moving in on these doctors and following the paper trail MJ has left for them.
It also explains where all the drugs came from that the police found in the house… only later.
The family makes a lot of mistakes, and gets tangled in many lies, but this is to be expected. They aren't professionals.
Granted this theory doesn't take everything into consideration, but no theory does (hell, even him being really dead doesn't explain all the weirdness.)
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8:11 pm July 29, 2009
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believe NOTHING; question EVERYTHING
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8:13 pm July 29, 2009
| Miss Dahmer
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this doesn't seem too far fetched at all, actually.
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‘I think in some way I wanted it to end, even if it meant my own destruction.’ |
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8:14 pm July 29, 2009
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I think it's a very good theory.
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The beauty of conspiracy theories is that the more they try to talk you out of it, the more they reinforce the idea of conspiracy. |
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8:16 pm July 29, 2009
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Thanks guys! If I'm right I want a cookie and a pony.
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8:17 pm July 29, 2009
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I think that this theory is very interesting and does explain alot! I just don't know what to think anymore.
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8:17 pm July 29, 2009
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mjfan said:
Thanks guys! If I'm right I want a cookie and a pony.
If you're right, I'll buy you a freaking pony. LOL
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The beauty of conspiracy theories is that the more they try to talk you out of it, the more they reinforce the idea of conspiracy. |
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8:19 pm July 29, 2009
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mjfan said:
Thanks guys! If I'm right I want a cookie and a pony.
if you're right we'll all get Michael Jackson himself to buy you a pony!
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‘I think in some way I wanted it to end, even if it meant my own destruction.’ |
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8:20 pm July 29, 2009
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Since you also talked about the COMA stage, this is at least on my point of view, the most reasonable explanation till now.Cause following this line , we now have a reason for the DEA being invoveld, and the urgency to set MJ under protection till he recovers from the COMA.
Ok the most exciting theory is the movie one, but this is by far the plausible one, as same as the terminal illness.With the difference that , with yours, we can have an excuse about the role of the DEA on the case.
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8:21 pm July 29, 2009
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Post edited 1:22 pm – July 30, 2009 by Miss Dahmer
crap, stupid double posting!
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‘I think in some way I wanted it to end, even if it meant my own destruction.’ |
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8:23 pm July 29, 2009
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I agree-something like that make sense. Would be a good reason as to why there are so many conflicting stories from the family, there beeing no official word from the hospital on his death. With a sting operation, it would be easier to have law officials and govt. offices invovled. Meanwhile, everyone thinks he's dead and try to cover their asses regarding their involvement in his supposed current drug addiction. Also, a feasible way for Michael to come back with very little or no backlash since it was for the greater good.
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8:24 pm July 29, 2009
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Post edited 1:24 pm – July 30, 2009 by mjfan
Miss Dahmer said:
mjfan said:
Thanks guys! If I'm right I want a cookie and a pony.
if you're right we'll all get Michael Jackson himself to buy you a pony!
LOLOL I would LOVE if Michael Jackson himself bought me a pony, LOLOLOL
Another point is… Michael Jackson is a dude that gets things done. He doesn't mess around. (He's like Chuck Norris that way. Remember all the jokes about Chuck Norris being awesome?) Anyway… in 2002 MJ went on this big crusade against Tommy Mottolla and as a result Mottolla was fired from Sony. So if MJ wants something done, the shit gets done.
For me one of the biggest things was something that I had just realized… okay so MJ has 19 enabling doctors. Well WHO was supplying him with drugs in Bahrain and Ireland? He can't be getting drugs from the US to those places, he'd need separate enabling doctors there, and surely there would be a paper trail that at least implicated some of these people to start investigations going in these other countries.
This remains a “thought experiement” for me, because the more complicated a conspiracy theory gets, it sounds cool, but it's unlikely to be totally true.
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8:26 pm July 29, 2009
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Excellent post..You are obviously very intelligent..This makes a lot of sense to me..Thanks for this and I look forward to seeing more of your post's..xx
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8:27 pm July 29, 2009
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NeverlandsFairy said:
Since you also talked about the COMA stage, this is at least on my point of view, the most reasonable explanation till now.Cause following this line , we now have a reason for the DEA being invoveld, and the urgency to set MJ under protection till he recovers from the COMA.
Ok the most exciting theory is the movie one, but this is by far the plausible one, as same as the terminal illness.With the difference that , with yours, we can have an excuse about the role of the DEA on the case.
Awww thank you on most plausible theory. I was just putting together some stray thoughts that had been knocking around in my head. I just found it very weird just how FAST the DEA started to move on all of this. Just BAM, there they are. And I agree, the movie theory is the most exciting theory.
Though this theory is exciting in a different way. i.e. it makes MJ a real hero (Not that he wasn't already), and it allows him to “come back” without anyone being angry at him, LOL. I got MJ's back.
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8:28 pm July 29, 2009
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mjfan said:
Post edited 8:24 pm – July 29, 2009 by mjfan
Miss Dahmer said:
mjfan said:
Thanks guys! If I'm right I want a cookie and a pony.
if you're right we'll all get Michael Jackson himself to buy you a pony!
LOLOL I would LOVE if Michael Jackson himself bought me a pony, LOLOLOL
Another point is… Michael Jackson is a dude that gets things done. He doesn't mess around. (He's like Chuck Norris that way. Remember all the jokes about Chuck Norris being awesome?) Anyway… in 2002 MJ went on this big crusade against Tommy Mottolla and as a result Mottolla was fired from Sony. So if MJ wants something done, the shit gets done.
For me one of the biggest things was something that I had just realized… okay so MJ has 19 enabling doctors. Well WHO was supplying him with drugs in Bahrain and Ireland? He can't be getting drugs from the US to those places, he'd need separate enabling doctors there, and surely there would be a paper trail that at least implicated some of these people to start investigations going in these other countries.
This remains a “thought experiement” for me, because the more complicated a conspiracy theory gets, it sounds cool, but it's unlikely to be totally true.
hahaha… well this theory is the most believable, IMHO. the movie theory could -but also sounds a bit too far fetched- be quite plausible.
thought experiment or not, it would not surprise me if this turned out to be the case. and the coma theory makes sense. what DOESN'T make sense is how first the news said he was in a coma and THEN was pronounced dead… then a month later people come out and say he was dead 2 hours PRIOR?! get the hell out of here! haha
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8:31 pm July 29, 2009
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hahaha… well this theory is the most believable, IMHO. the movie theory could -but also sounds a bit too far fetched- be quite plausible.
thought experiment or not, it would not surprise me if this turned out to be the case. and the coma theory makes sense. what DOESN'T make sense is how first the news said he was in a coma and THEN was pronounced dead… then a month later people come out and say he was dead 2 hours PRIOR?! get the hell out of here! haha
LOLOL yeah. True.
I guess this one is going to become my pet theory and I'm going to be watching for things happening that keeps this one afloat. Sorta like the Movie theory is Souza's pet theory. (Though I LOVE the movie theory, lol. It's too awesome for words!)
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8:34 pm July 29, 2009
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mjfan said:
Miss Dahmer said:
hahaha… well this theory is the most believable, IMHO. the movie theory could -but also sounds a bit too far fetched- be quite plausible.
thought experiment or not, it would not surprise me if this turned out to be the case. and the coma theory makes sense. what DOESN'T make sense is how first the news said he was in a coma and THEN was pronounced dead… then a month later people come out and say he was dead 2 hours PRIOR?! get the hell out of here! haha
LOLOL yeah. True.
I guess this one is going to become my pet theory and I'm going to be watching for things happening that keeps this one afloat. Sorta like the Movie theory is Souza's pet theory. (Though I LOVE the movie theory, lol. It's too awesome for words!)
haha I know that's right! I would have to agree. the movie theory would be so f**king awesome if it were true. can you say MIND BLOWING?! haha if anyone had that trick under their sleeve, it'd be Michael.
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8:41 pm July 29, 2009
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everything is plausible up to the point where the lies start, he was doctor shopping, he was getting pills under different names, huh wtf.
Why in gods name would someone of michael jacksons stature need to be calling a nutritionist for propofol, go to doctors for pills or have to use names, basicly in no way would michael have to do any of this on his own. all he would need to do is confide in one person and that person could get all the drugs he wanted, all the pills. withouth anyone needeing to know, if you think its hard to do your insane. at this very moment i could have 2 boxes of diprivan, cases of xanax and cases of oxyconton delivered to your doorstop in2 days without anyone being the wiser, this has been going on for years as well, huh he was doing diprivan for 2 years thier sources claim. cmon…
would he really really do that.risk dying and leave the media correct with all the lies, cause if years of rumors states he was on drugs and he dies from drugs and they find tons of drugs in his house, then that opens the door to the possibility he did molest boys, if one thing is true then so could the other persay.
i dont beleave any of this. but yes i do beleave he could have help form dea or government.
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8:43 pm July 29, 2009
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badkolo said:
everything is plausible up to the point where the lies start, he was doctor shopping, he was getting pills under different names, huh wtf.
Why in gods name would someone of michael jacksons stature need to be calling a nutritionist for propofol, go to doctors for pills or have to use names, basicly in no way would michael have to do any of this on his own. all he would need to do is confide in one person and that person could get all the drugs he wanted, all the pills. withouth anyone needeing to know, if you think its hard to do your insane. at this very moment i could have 2 boxes of diprivan, cases of xanax and cases of oxyconton delivered to your doorstop in2 days without anyone being the wiser, this has been going on for years as well, huh he was doing diprivan for 2 years thier sources claim. cmon…
would he really really do that.risk dying and leave the media correct with all the lies, cause if years of rumors states he was on drugs and he dies from drugs and they find tons of drugs in his house, then that opens the door to the possibility he did molest boys, if one thing is true then so could the other persay.
i dont beleave any of this. but yes i do beleave he could have help form dea or government.
LOL true. MJ would not need to get his hands dirty at all if he was REALLY on all these drugs.
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8:46 pm July 29, 2009
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Post edited 2:20 pm – July 30, 2009 by mjfan
DAMN DOUBLE POSTS.
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9:36 am July 31, 2009
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Hi MJFan I like your theory. I kind of felt like he was in a witness protection program also. The officials probally never thought that the fans would take his death at the magnitude that we have. They knew we would be devastated but not suicidal.
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You can be as good as gold
And still people will curse your soul
You can take all the right paths, leaving mistakes to others,
And still people will taint you like they will another
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10:17 am July 31, 2009
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10:37 am July 31, 2009
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It's an absolute fabulous theory. This theory and the movie theory are both kick a** theories (I am so praying for one of them to be true).
Keep up the good work guys.
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12:04 pm July 31, 2009
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lovelidae said:
It's an absolute fabulous theory. This theory and the movie theory are both kick a** theories (I am so praying for one of them to be true).
Keep up the good work guys.
LOL. I would love for either of these theories to be true. But he wasn't super human so we should remember there is also a really good chance he actually died. But, I still don't understand why BOTH the family and the media is lying so much. Shouldn't they both just stick to the facts and not play us all for fools?
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3:33 am August 1, 2009
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Thanks for posting this interesting theory mjfan!
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3:34 am August 1, 2009
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Thanks for posting this interesting theory mjfan!
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