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4:14 pm July 16, 2009
| jewell
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Here is Liza's statement….
“All of us who knew him well really know what he was like,” she said.
“And I'm sure that now the accolades are going,
and I'm sure when the autopsy comes,
all hell's going to break loose.
So, thank God we're celebrating him now.”
Does anyone else find that statement strange…
“And I'm sure that now the accolades are going, ….So, thank God we're celebrating him now.”
I just find it really strange thing to say…
“So, thank God we're celebrating him now.”
like when the report comes in, nobody will celebrate him as much….
because “all hell is going to break loose”
I think that I know what she means,
but I don't want to insult anybody …
or want it to be taken it the wrong way…
Does anybody else have any idea to what it means??…
I would like to hear other opinions.
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4:19 pm July 16, 2009
| Miss Dahmer
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I'd like to know what you think it might mean!
What she said could go in a lot of directions, though.
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4:45 pm July 16, 2009
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That its not Michael?
That he died from some disease which it should be impossible for him to have
That there were so much drugs pumped into him all at once that its definiteley murder.
That he had a very long standing cancer/leaukemia and it was an amazing show of character that he had managed to live this long _ this ties in with Ecasanova.
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4:48 pm July 16, 2009
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dianafan said:
That its not Michael?
That he died from some disease which it should be impossible for him to have
That there were so much drugs pumped into him all at once that its definiteley murder.
That he had a very long standing cancer/leaukemia and it was an amazing show of character that he had managed to live this long _ this ties in with Ecasanova.
I agree with all that you just mentioned.
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4:51 pm July 16, 2009
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Andrea said:
dianafan said:
That its not Michael?
That he died from some disease which it should be impossible for him to have
That there were so much drugs pumped into him all at once that its definiteley murder.
That he had a very long standing cancer/leaukemia and it was an amazing show of character that he had managed to live this long _ this ties in with Ecasanova.
I agree with all that you just mentioned.
Ooh, I didn't look at it from that view.
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4:54 pm July 16, 2009
| jewell
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dianafan said:
That he died from some disease which it should be impossible for him to have
What disease would be impossibe for him to have?
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4:58 pm July 16, 2009
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dianafan said:
That its not Michael?
That he died from some disease which it should be impossible for him to have
That there were so much drugs pumped into him all at once that its definiteley murder.
That he had a very long standing cancer/leaukemia and it was an amazing show of character that he had managed to live this long _ this ties in with Ecasanova.
Me too, I thougt about something similar, but i would like to know what Jewel thinks as well, come on tell us, don't be afraid!
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I wish you, Michael, to be in peace forever, wherever you are, dead or alive.
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5:03 pm July 16, 2009
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maybe he never really had vitiligo, and he really did just want to be white
that would make people want to celebrate him less
of course that doesn't make any sense since we've seen photos
or maybe an imposter has been posing as him for years, and not just for this hoax death thing
maybe michael is really one of his brothers! ? and marlon is the real michael! that would be trippy
i don't know, i'm as curious as you guys are to know what liza really meant by that. a drug overdose wouldn't be surprising at this point.
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5:09 pm July 16, 2009
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In the (wishful) part of my brain – I could almost imagine her saying 'thank god we're celebrating him now' and 'all hell will break loose' because maybe, the autospy results will come back that it's not Michael, or something to show that it was a hoax, and many people will scrutinize him and/or hate him for it (I wouldn't. I'D STILL LOVE YOU MICHAEL!). Hence 'thank god we're celebrating him now'.
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5:15 pm July 16, 2009
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Shes in on it. Think about it…..at his 30th concert Liz……Liza were all there…….at his memorial they were NO SHOWS…….This Is It!
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5:17 pm July 16, 2009
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''or maybe an imposter has been posing as him for years, and not just for this hoax death thing''
I thought about this as well, I actually believe that we don't know who's the real Michael.
But i'm still waiting for Jewel's though.
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I wish you, Michael, to be in peace forever, wherever you are, dead or alive.
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5:22 pm July 16, 2009
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Post edited 10:23 am – July 17, 2009 by dianafan
Cherry said:
''or maybe an imposter has been posing as him for years, and not just for this hoax death thing''
I thought about this as well, I actually believe that we don't know who's the real Michael.
But i'm still waiting for Jewel's though.
Yes, I have thought of that too – and questioned it on here. Who knows without a shadow of a doubt, which is the last guaranteed pic of MJ?
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5:36 pm July 16, 2009
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dianafan said:
Post edited 5:23 pm – July 16, 2009 by dianafan
Cherry said:
''or maybe an imposter has been posing as him for years, and not just for this hoax death thing''
I thought about this as well, I actually believe that we don't know who's the real Michael.
But i'm still waiting for Jewel's though.
Yes, I have thought of that too – and questioned it on here. Who knows without a shadow of a doubt, which is the last guaranteed pic of MJ?
Oh come on.
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5:45 pm July 16, 2009
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Andrea said:
In the (wishful) part of my brain – I could almost imagine her saying 'thank god we're celebrating him now' and 'all hell will break loose' because maybe, the autospy results will come back that it's not Michael, or something to show that it was a hoax, and many people will scrutinize him and/or hate him for it (I wouldn't. I'D STILL LOVE YOU MICHAEL!). Hence 'thank god we're celebrating him now'.
Yes, I almost hate that someone mentioned that possiblity because now Im really hopeful for that. I would not be upset at all. So, jewel what are your thoughts??
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It could mean a number of theories. My opinion would be that the autopsy was done on a double, Or that there were many drugs found in his system.
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6:25 pm July 16, 2009
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mjlives said:
i don't know, i'm as curious as you guys are to know what liza really meant by that. a drug overdose wouldn't be surprising at this point.
…but Liza wouldn't know about a drug overdose….
she would know if he was sick though.
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6:29 pm July 16, 2009
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…and would all hell break loose if it was a drug overdose?
or if he had cancer,
I don't think so….
what would make “all hell break loose” that Liza would know about….
something that she thinks people would not be celebrating him as much if they knew…
and that is why she is saying “So, thank God we're celebrating him now.”
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6:40 pm July 16, 2009
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jewell said:
…and would all hell break loose if it was a drug overdose?
or if he had cancer,
I don't think so….
what would make “all hell break loose” that Liza would know about….
something that she thinks people would not be celebrating him as much if they knew…
and that is why she is saying “So, thank God we're celebrating him now.”
I dread to say some kind of STI – Ecasanovas retirement announcement said his life threatening disease was “non sexual”, double bluff
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6:47 pm July 16, 2009
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Post edited 11:48 am – July 17, 2009 by Cherry
jewell said:
…and would all hell break loose if it was a drug overdose?
or if he had cancer,
I don't think so….
what would make “all hell break loose” that Liza would know about….
something that she thinks people would not be celebrating him as much if they knew…
and that is why she is saying “So, thank God we're celebrating him now.”
Oh plz, what exactly???!!!! come on!!
no drug overdose, no cancer…hmmmm, that he's really a woman? Aids? that is not him? a suicide? heis an alien?
come on, i know you want to tell us…
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7:07 pm July 16, 2009
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Cherry said:
jewell said:
…and would all hell break loose if it was a drug overdose?
or if he had cancer,
I don't think so….
what would make “all hell break loose” that Liza would know about….
something that she thinks people would not be celebrating him as much if they knew…
and that is why she is saying “So, thank God we're celebrating him now.”
Oh plz, what exactly???!!!! come on!!
no drug overdose, no cancer…hmmmm, that he's really a woman? Aids? that is not him? a suicide? heis an alien?
come i know you want to tell us…
Hermaphrodite?
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7:11 pm July 16, 2009
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dianafan said:
Cherry said:
jewell said:
…and would all hell break loose if it was a drug overdose?
or if he had cancer,
I don't think so….
what would make “all hell break loose” that Liza would know about….
something that she thinks people would not be celebrating him as much if they knew…
and that is why she is saying “So, thank God we're celebrating him now.”
Oh plz, what exactly???!!!! come on!!
no drug overdose, no cancer…hmmmm, that he's really a woman? Aids? that is not him? a suicide? heis an alien?
come i know you want to tell us…
Hermaphrodite?
oh, yes, i forgot that one.
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I wish you, Michael, to be in peace forever, wherever you are, dead or alive.
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6:06 am July 17, 2009
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Post edited 1:06 am – July 18, 2009 by jewell
dianafan said:
jewell said:
…and would all hell break loose if it was a drug overdose?
or if he had cancer,
I don't think so….
what would make “all hell break loose” that Liza would know about….
something that she thinks people would not be celebrating him as much if they knew…
and that is why she is saying “So, thank God we're celebrating him now.”
I dread to say some kind of STI –
Do you mean STD?
What if it is a terminal STD?
Would that make “all hell break loose”?
And would that make people not celebrate him as much….
maybe in some people's minds it would confirm their beliefs about him?
I think that all hell would break loose if it were a terminal STD….
or an auto imune disease…..
because of the narrowmindness of some people….
and i think that he would have shared this news with Liza.
and probably not all of his family.
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11:49 am July 17, 2009
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I have to agree with jewell. But how he got that STD is a different story (?). There are rumours that he had to go to different meetings with his dad in the late evenings, when he was very young.. I personally don't believe he was a gay. STD would also explain why he didn't have serious relationships. Maybe he wanted to hide STD.
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11:59 am July 17, 2009
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i don't believe he was gay either,
but, you can get an terminal std from a woman as well as a man…
you can also get an terminal auto immune disorder through receiving blood.
but i think if that came out…
unfortunately ,everyone would immediately say “gay” and then
automatically believe the child abuse allegations.
It may also be why he possibly did not use his sperm for the conception of his children….
and not because he wanted them white, as some say.
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12:19 pm July 17, 2009
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jewell said:
i don't believe he was gay either,
but, you can get an terminal std from a woman as well as a man…
you can also get an terminal auto immune disorder through receiving blood.
but i think if that came out…
unfortunately ,everyone would immediately say “gay” and then
automatically believe the child abuse allegations.
It may also be why he possibly did not use his sperm for the conception of his children….
and not because he wanted them white, as some say.
That's true.
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12:53 pm July 17, 2009
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I pointed that out already in the other topic, but..
I think in the video from the rehearsals in the Staple Center where MJ chews gum there is something weird in his eyes. And I think that they tried to cover his eyes manipulating the video by faking that there is a part of his hair on his nose.
I also noticed that in the video where MJ was shopping with Christian Audigier in the end of February, it looked like Christian was holding and guiding MJ where to go.
So, to me it looked like there was something wrong with MJ's vision.
I read that blindness is a common symptom of AIDS. So, this would support that theory of STD.
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12:59 pm July 17, 2009
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Finnlady said:
I pointed that out already in the other topic, but..
I think in the video from the rehearsals in the Staple Center where MJ chews gum there is something weird in his eyes. And I think that they tried to cover his eyes manipulating the video by faking that there is a part of his hair on his nose.
I also noticed that in the video where MJ was shopping with Christian Audigier in the end of February, it looked like Christian was holding and guiding MJ where to go.
So, to me it looked like there was something wrong with MJ's vision.
I read that blindness is a common symptom of AIDS. So, this would support that theory of STD.
hmm, you don't think that it would have leaked out in the past years that he had aids or a terminal illness? knowing that michael was so conscious about his health it seems odd and reckless that he would contract aids. but i dunno.
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1:02 pm July 17, 2009
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plus if he had aids, he could have very well afforded all the medications for it. i think people with it live much longer these days cuz of the treatments they have for it. they're highly expensive, but that would have been no problem for him. i mean, look at magic johnson who's had hiv for years now. he seems to be very healthy and doing well.
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1:03 pm July 17, 2009
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yaya said:
Finnlady said:
I pointed that out already in the other topic, but..
I think in the video from the rehearsals in the Staple Center where MJ chews gum there is something weird in his eyes. And I think that they tried to cover his eyes manipulating the video by faking that there is a part of his hair on his nose.
I also noticed that in the video where MJ was shopping with Christian Audigier in the end of February, it looked like Christian was holding and guiding MJ where to go.
So, to me it looked like there was something wrong with MJ's vision.
I read that blindness is a common symptom of AIDS. So, this would support that theory of STD.
hmm, you don't think that it would have leaked out in the past years that he had aids or a terminal illness? knowing that michael was so conscious about his health it seems odd and reckless that he would contract aids. but i dunno.
Good point. I really hope that this STD or other serious illness theory is not true.
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1:12 pm July 17, 2009
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Post edited 6:19 am – July 18, 2009 by jewell
I don't want it to be true, i really don't ….
i have 2 very good friends die of aids and it is a hard death,
one was a gay male friend,
and the other was a married housewife with 2 beautiful kids who received tainted blood after a car accident.
but right now, i believe that maybe that is what liza meant….
she knew the uproar and comments that it would cause from those who weren't so fond of him.
He may have had some sort of illness for years and it finally took it's toll…
no matter how much money you have,
you can only buy so much time.
I have seen that sunken in cheek look that comes with a terminal illness,
and i think that michael had that look in the last photos.
and for those reading who say that there is no way, he couldn't have had cancer or aids…
and think that i am disrespecting MJ…
cancer and aids do not discrimate and it doesn't make one less of a person,
nor would it diminish his musical genius and the legacy that he leaves in his music and children.
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