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1:58 pm July 17, 2009
| Finnlady
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jewell said:
Post edited 1:19 pm – July 17, 2009 by jewell
I don't want it to be true, i really don't ….
i have 2 very good friends die of aids and it is a hard death,
one was a gay male friend,
and the other was a married housewife with 2 beautiful kids who received tainted blood after a car accident.
but right now, i believe that maybe that is what liza meant….
she knew the uproar and comments that it would cause from those who weren't so fond of him.
He may have had some sort of illness for years and it finally took it's toll…
no matter how much money you have,
you can only buy so much time.
I have seen that sunken in cheek look that comes with a terminal illness,
and i think that michael had that look in the last photos.
and for those reading who say that there is no way, he couldn't have had cancer or aids…
and think that i am disrespecting MJ…
cancer and aids do not discrimate and it doesn't make one less of a person,
nor would it diminish his musical genius and the legacy that he leaves in his music and children.
I agree with you. And MJ and his best friend Elisabeth Taylor gave a lot of money for AIDS research..
If this is true, I'm so sad for him. Why he had to go through so a painful diasease and die so young.. He had a most beautiful heart than anyone can have. It's so sad..
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3:30 pm July 18, 2009
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I don't think he had AIDs. I swear. He was donating to that cause from the very beginning. I think Liza is talking out of her butt. I don't think her statement has a secret code meaning.
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3:39 pm July 18, 2009
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mjfan said:
I don't think he had AIDs. I swear. He was donating to that cause from the very beginning. I think Liza is talking out of her butt. I don't think her statement has a secret code meaning.
agreed.
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3:59 pm July 18, 2009
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Post edited 9:00 am – July 19, 2009 by clueless
well fact is, as videos on youtube also proved, he was very concerned about the health/intelligence of his last born mother.
so being that concerned about some1 you won't really have physical contact to, leaves out the thought of him sleeping aroound unprotective, which is how to get aids
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4:05 pm July 18, 2009
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I highly doubt that he had aids. Cancer no.
maybe they will realize that he's not dead
Hopefully!!
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4:17 pm July 18, 2009
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Post edited 9:20 am – July 19, 2009 by itsme
I don't think that ''hell breaks loose'' because he died of some illness…i guess people would be even more sad about it.
But…i can imagine that hell breaks loose if he is not death…and that the autopsy reveals that to the public…that the man in the coffin is not MJ.
There will be a lot of people who will be very happy with his return from the death…but i can imagine many will be shocked….guess the world would stand still for more than one hour lol
So i guess there will be many mad people also…who can not believe he did something like that.
This is just my toughts about it…but i don't think people would be shocked if he died from some illness.
Maybe his close friends now exacly what happened and thats why they were not on the memorial…because when everything blows wide open…they would get also a lot of mad people all over them…for being in the hoax.
If it turned out 100% that he is murdered…that could be also the case ofcourse..
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5:22 pm July 22, 2009
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like when the report comes in, nobody will celebrate him as much….
because “all hell is going to break loose”
Hehe Think about it? Some people will be pissed. Most will be happy.
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5:29 pm July 22, 2009
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What is strange is the ” those who knew him WELL knew what he was like“
what does it mean?
that he like to play pranks????
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5:56 pm July 22, 2009
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Post edited 11:01 am – July 23, 2009 by Ninanina
I just listened to the interview with that statement: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..9v_qAyEgzQ
She actually sounds very sad… That makes me sad again.
STD is the only thing that would make sense for me, because any other illnesses wouldn't cause hell to break loose.
Other illnesses would rather cause compassion.
Right at the end of the rehearsal video, he reminds me of Freddy Mercury in the “These were the days” video.
On the other hand: Liza Minelli is a very good actress, too…
But what about this A1AP disease?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/musi…..on-illness
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6:14 pm July 22, 2009
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Hmmmm..Honestly,I don't think the coroner would release information as to him having aids or cancer to the general public. It is my understanding they're waiting on the toxicology report, to determine what drugs were inside his body,if in fact it was an overdose. But it does make your mind wonder what was really wrong with him these past 20 years,that's when he began changing emotionally.It's also long enough for signs and sickness to emerge after contracting a terminal illness such as AIDS. I agree with Jewell, why would Liza make such a statement and why are they not showing the body? I wonder if the coroner would disclose information in the event of a sex change? Hmmmm..All this makes you wonder more and more…
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6:55 pm July 22, 2009
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jewell said:
i don't believe he was gay either,
but, you can get an terminal std from a woman as well as a man…
you can also get an terminal auto immune disorder through receiving blood.
but i think if that came out…
unfortunately ,everyone would immediately say “gay” and then
automatically believe the child abuse allegations.
It may also be why he possibly did not use his sperm for the conception of his children….
and not because he wanted them white, as some say.
Hey Jewel, finally you said it; you know? after you made this post the other day, i kept thinking about that and i inmediately thought about this conclusion i think that, sadly, it would make really sense, i hope thats not the truth, but…who knows? there are some possibilities.
But…on the other hand, i also think about what some of you say referring to MJ being conscious about his health, so, it's confusing (like everything on this site).
Btw, when did Liza tell that? before or after the publication of a possible overdose?
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I wish you, Michael, to be in peace forever, wherever you are, dead or alive.
From a non (always) fan, who have always respected him profoundly
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7:01 pm July 22, 2009
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Finnlady said:
jewell said:
Post edited 1:19 pm – July 17, 2009 by jewell
I don't want it to be true, i really don't ….
i have 2 very good friends die of aids and it is a hard death,
one was a gay male friend,
and the other was a married housewife with 2 beautiful kids who received tainted blood after a car accident.
but right now, i believe that maybe that is what liza meant….
she knew the uproar and comments that it would cause from those who weren't so fond of him.
He may have had some sort of illness for years and it finally took it's toll…
no matter how much money you have,
you can only buy so much time.
I have seen that sunken in cheek look that comes with a terminal illness,
and i think that michael had that look in the last photos.
and for those reading who say that there is no way, he couldn't have had cancer or aids…
and think that i am disrespecting MJ…
cancer and aids do not discrimate and it doesn't make one less of a person,
nor would it diminish his musical genius and the legacy that he leaves in his music and children.
I agree with you. And MJ and his best friend Elisabeth Taylor gave a lot of money for AIDS research..
If this is true, I'm so sad for him. Why he had to go through so a painful diasease and die so young.. He had a most beautiful heart than anyone can have. It's so sad..
NO, please say it isent true. NO. Why him? Not Michael Comeon! he has to be alive, oh no. Im sorry, I cant help it, my heart stopped when i was reading this. There is no more hope. Is he really gone? I cant believe it, what am I going to do without him? Please say it isent so, someone. They thought of that made me cry. AGAIN. Like i havent been doing that for 4 weeks now.
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7:39 pm July 22, 2009
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I have to be honest and say I questioned Liza's statement as well. I hope and pray that these speculations are untrue. Not because I think Michael was gay (not that I give a rats ass – although it does take some of my fantasies away) but because of what the media and the haters will make of it. I noticed that his last appearances were very….scripted, if you will. He definitely didn't seem like the old MJ. Now that could be part of the hoax script and totally contrived or it could be something else. Either way, I will support and defend him and his memory until the day I draw my last breath. I am SICK AND TIRED of all the bashing in the press. Most people can't fathom the goodness that was (is) Michael Jackson because they have no goodness within themselves.
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8:26 pm July 22, 2009
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I had read somewhere on the internet that there may be a possiblilty that Joe Jackson may have whored out Michael when he was young at after parties. I have also read that Michael may have been castrato, something else Joe did to him, pure speculation tho.
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9:25 pm July 22, 2009
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I believe Liza was talking about them finding illegally administered drugs in his body.If Michael had aids,he surely had the money to make it damn near disappear like Magic Johnson did.And if you are blind how and the hell are you going to perform with no vision?Was Michael supposed to feel his way around onstage?lol.If Michael had cancer,aids or any other life threating illness,his autopsy would have revealed it and it would have not have been deferred.Just today they raided the office of the so called doctor who administered cpr in a “bed”.There's too many things happening that involves drugs for this not to be drug related,or drug speculation,peace.
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9:48 pm July 22, 2009
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Post edited 2:48 pm – July 23, 2009 by Give.In.To.Me
It's not the “all hell will break loose” comment that made me wonder. It was the ” thank god were celebrating him now” comment. So if we knew the autospy results first we wouldn't want to celebrate him? I didn't get that at all
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5:01 am July 23, 2009
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Give.In.To.Me said:
Post edited 9:48 pm – July 22, 2009 by Give.In.To.Me
It's not the “all hell will break loose” comment that made me wonder. It was the ” thank god were celebrating him now” comment. So if we knew the autospy results first we wouldn't want to celebrate him? I didn't get that at all
yeah, that is the comment that gets me…
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5:06 am July 23, 2009
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mjfan said:
I don't think he had AIDs. I swear. He was donating to that cause from the very beginning. I think Liza is talking out of her butt. I don't think her statement has a secret code meaning.
i'm not saying he had aids…. i think it was some sort of auto immune disease….
and that may be why he was taking so many different drugs, which may have led to the possible overdose…
and if did have aids , with all his money, wouldn't he want to donate to the aids charities?
Liza is a drunk, but is a very close friend of m's, so i just find the statement very strange.
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5:14 am July 23, 2009
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shell12 said:
I believe Liza was talking about them finding illegally administered drugs in his body.If Michael had aids,he surely had the money to make it damn near disappear like Magic Johnson did.And if you are blind how and the hell are you going to perform with no vision?Was Michael supposed to feel his way around onstage?lol.If Michael had cancer,aids or any other life threating illness,his autopsy would have revealed it and it would have not have been deferred.Just today they raided the office of the so called doctor who administered cpr in a “bed”.There's too many things happening that involves drugs for this not to be drug related,or drug speculation,peace.
unfortunately, sometimes all the money in the world doesn't buy you good health….
sad, but true.
I believe that his death is drug related, hence the deferred on the report,
but i don't believe that he was a druggie, but he was receiving drugs, possibly for some disorder,
there is a difference.
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7:08 am July 23, 2009
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8:13 am July 23, 2009
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The Lupus was supposedly in remission and he did actually try to hide the fact he suffered with it. Seems like if there was a medical problem, it would have to be something that was more of a bombshell.
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3:40 pm July 27, 2009
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i don't think its a disease, everybody gets sick, overdose its not that shocking anymore.
what i understand about her comment its that in the future something will be revealead that is going to shock the world, something big that will not be appreciated by everybody.
at least its what i understand from her statement .
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3:44 pm July 27, 2009
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I think Liza was making a comment that will never come to pass. As for Michael having Aids…he passed a rigourous physical. They drew blood and their statement was that he was healthy.
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3:50 pm July 27, 2009
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sapatito said:
i don't think its a disease, everybody gets sick, overdose its not that shocking anymore.
what i understand about her comment its that in the future something will be revealead that is going to shock the world, something big that will not be appreciated by everybody.
at least its what i understand from her statement .
I agree with you,I dont think him having aids or cancer or being gay or even an overdose or murder will shock the world that much he still will be Michael,but if it would turn out he was still alive yeah then I can see all hell break loose,not for me btw I will be dancing in the livingroom lol
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3:51 pm July 27, 2009
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Liza Minnelli is a hot mess and you should not be reading anything into what she is saying. I mean come on guys, no disrespect, but half the time she doesn't even sound coherent. I'm not biting that bait.
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4:09 pm July 27, 2009
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mir26 said:
sapatito said:
i don't think its a disease, everybody gets sick, overdose its not that shocking anymore.
what i understand about her comment its that in the future something will be revealead that is going to shock the world, something big that will not be appreciated by everybody.
at least its what i understand from her statement .
I agree with you,I dont think him having aids or cancer or being gay or even an overdose or murder will shock the world that much he still will be Michael,but if it would turn out he was still alive yeah then I can see all hell break loose,not for me btw I will be dancing in the livingroom lol
I agree with you that if turns out he's still alive.Then people don't wanna celebrate his live anymore so all hell is gonna break loose.
I'll be dancing too LOL
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4:17 pm July 27, 2009
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jewell said:
mjfan said:
I don't think he had AIDs. I swear. He was donating to that cause from the very beginning. I think Liza is talking out of her butt. I don't think her statement has a secret code meaning.
i'm not saying he had aids…. i think it was some sort of auto immune disease….
and that may be why he was taking so many different drugs, which may have led to the possible overdose…
and if did have aids , with all his money, wouldn't he want to donate to the aids charities?
Liza is a drunk, but is a very close friend of m's, so i just find the statement very strange.
He had Lupus. That is an auto immune disease. But it's not something that will make “all hell break lose.”
He WAS donating to AIDs charities.
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6:22 pm July 27, 2009
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a quote from Liza Marie Presley on her blog following MJ's “death”
“The world is in shock but somehow he knew exactly how his fate would be played out some day more than anyone else knew, and he was right.”
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6:46 pm July 27, 2009
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What I find strange in what she said is, “And all of us who knew him really well, know what he was REALLY like.”
So is she inferring that he was'nt who his fans imagined him to be?
In what way, I wonder?
Gay maybe?
Whatever she meant by it, it does'nt sound like a positive statement toward MJ.
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6:55 pm July 27, 2009
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Maybe…IMO….Liz Taylor is not in favor of MJ's Plans (If MOVIE THEORY happens to be true)….I think she mentioned in her twitter like she doesnt want to joinf the WHOOPLA and also she mentioned I can't believe Michael would want me to go there and share my emotions in public …something like that…please correct me if I'm wrong…..but it seems to me, she simply doesnt want to participate thinking that “Hell will break lose”…. and most of his close friends doesnt want to comment about his death like diana ross and culkin….did anyone of them made a statement confirming MJ's death? i don't think I heard anything about it.
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