Michael Jackson Hoax Death

Post edited 1:31 pm – July 30, 2009 by Alfaomega

Souza, very good theory.

I agree with most of it

Nothing in a movie is done by accident or coincidence.

Everything has a symbolic meaning and everything is telling something about each of the characters.

Now we have the latest on Dr. Con-rad Murray (obviously by TMZ):

Law enforcement sources tell us Dr. Conrad Murray kept a stash of drugs — including the powerful anesthesia Propofol — hidden in his closet at Michael Jackson's home.

Here's the amazing thing …law enforcement sources say Dr. Murray himself told LAPD detectives about the closet when he was interviewed the Saturday after Jackson's death.

http://www.stumbleupon.com/s/#…..propofol//

So, now what was In The Closet is out of the closet.Hmm

In the Closet-that´s another MJ song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..wvix7uEQg0

It's a good story and not impossible but what about his family – his kids – his mother – do you think if this is real that they know? And what about Jermaine?  Are they crocodile tears? Is there are proof about LAX?

annonymous25 said:

Post edited 9:33 am – July 24, 2009 by annonymous25

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Your theory and synopsis are awesome. You did a great job writing it up! Thank you!

Excellent theory – I have being wondering this week if this is all part of “This is it”

Scarletroad said:

I don't agree with the comeback theory (it's absolutely against the law to fake your death or even to help someone else fake their death, plus the greatest reason to fake his death would be to get away from the spotlight) but your synopsis is awesome and your english is excellent!

it is against the law but they NEVER signed his DEATH CERTIFICATE which means he isnt dead by law of the U.S.

if the DC isnt signed your not really dead until its signed and his isnt so he didnt go against the law at all

STARbaybeeRoqk said:

Scarletroad said:

I don't agree with the comeback theory (it's absolutely against the law to fake your death or even to help someone else fake their death, plus the greatest reason to fake his death would be to get away from the spotlight) but your synopsis is awesome and your english is excellent!

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it is against the law but they NEVER signed his DEATH CERTIFICATE which means he isnt dead by law of the U.S.

if the DC isnt signed your not really dead until its signed and his isnt so he didnt go against the law at all

Actually, it was supposedly signed by the coroner but the signature's blocked out, we can't see it. Plus, let's not forget that there's been reports that the DC as we saw it might be a fake.

I love this idea!

Reminds me of his quote:

“It is now I see and feel that calling once again
to be part of a music that will not just connect but,
make all feel one, one in joy, one in pain,
one in love, one in service and in consciousness”

Hmmm, we will see…  ***

interesting theory, thanks for sharing!!

I have just an idea I would like to share with you and have your thoughts:

- about Murray being convicted = I have seen a video on youtube (Iposted the link on this website but can't remember in which topic) in which the journalist interviewed a medical lawyer working at some hospital. Basically, what is interesting to remember from this interview: if MJ had several doctors, Murray couldn't know what other medication MJ was prescribed by the other doctors so his “death” could be ruled out as overdose by combination of several medication. In this case = Murray is not condemned and AEG gets the payout from insurance.

- about the dead body = isn't it possible that someone else who was at MJ's house had a cardiac arrest and needed an ambulance? People and media immediately assumed that it was MJ since it's his house. He had several people working for him, people visiting him. To me, the ambulance picture dates back to another incident maybe several years ago. I don't really want to get into the whole “lookalike-died-in-his-place” thing but maybe it was a genuine mistake, the “gentleman” was mistaken for MJ. Family arrive at the UCLA and realise that it's not him. 2 things:

• the “gentleman” looks like MJ (sorry seems like I resort to the “lookalike-died-in-his-place” thing!) and the family decides to confirm his identity as being MJ; in this case, no DNA testing needed to identify the body.They could later say that they were in shock, busy comforting the kids, he was unrecognizable (hence close casket) etc… Joe Jackson even said recently that he hasn't seen the body… = LAPD, UCLA etc… are not in the hoax since family confirmed the identity so nothing illegal there
• the “gentleman” does not look like him. Since there are no pictures available, close casket, high security after memorial to hide the casket, UCLA evacuated when body was taken to the helicopter on the roof (http://www.wellsphere.com/epil…..ay/732985), only few people saw the body (doctors, nurses, paramedics) = some officials from LAPD and UCLA in the hoax

What do you think?

she_can said:

interesting theory, thanks for sharing!!

I have just an idea I would like to share with you and have your thoughts:

- about Murray being convicted = I have seen a video on youtube (Iposted the link on this website but can't remember in which topic) in which the journalist interviewed a medical lawyer working at some hospital. Basically, what is interesting to remember from this interview: if MJ had several doctors, Murray couldn't know what other medication MJ was prescribed by the other doctors so his “death” could be ruled out as overdose by combination of several medication. In this case = Murray is not condemned and AEG gets the payout from insurance.

- about the dead body = isn't it possible that someone elsewho was at MJ's house had a cardiac arrest and needed an ambulance? People and media immediately assumed that it was MJ since it's his house. He had several people working for him, people visiting him. To me, the ambulance picture dates back to another incident maybe several years ago. I don't really want to get into the whole “lookalike-died-in-his-place” thing but maybe it was a genuine mistake, the “gentleman” was mistaken for MJ. Family arrive at the UCLA and realise that it's not him. 2 things:

• the “gentleman” looks like MJ (sorry seems like I resort to the “lookalike-died-in-his-place” thing!) and the family decides to confirm his identity as being MJ; in this case, no DNA testing needed to identify the body.They could later say that they were in shock, busy comforting the kids, he was unrecognizable (hence close casket) etc… Joe Jackson even said recently that he hasn't seen the body… = LAPD, UCLA etc… are not in the hoax since family confirmed the identity so nothing illegal there
• the “gentleman” does not look like him. Since there are no pictures available, close casket, high security after memorial to hide the casket, UCLA evacuated when body was taken to the helicopter on the roof (http://www.wellsphere.com/epil…..ay/732985), only few people saw the body (doctors, nurses, paramedics) = some officials from LAPD and UCLA in the hoax

What do you think?

I love the idea about The Jackson's saying they were in shock and could have been mistaken that way! It would be the perfect way for them to get of it!

great work! lets keep digging to see what else we can add to this in the coming weeks.

About your 'ticket theory': It could be possible that the only concerts are going to take place in 2010. Maybe the people that insted of a refund asked for memorable ticket, can attend thos shows. It's said that thos tickets were printed with date, time and seat number. It could be a real ticket but not for the This Is It concerts.

I love this theory as well, but its hard to believe that this is really what happened. I just have a hard time believing Michael would hoax his death to make a movie. Theres no way I can see him doing it. He couldnt even hurt a bug so why make so many ppl suffer over his death for 'no' reason? Why lying and make other ppl lie to the whole world about?

The other thing I cant see why it would work out is that the government would be needed for it. Either to lie as well about the autopsy and that the LAPD is in it or to shut up about it and dont reveal that its just actors. And either way it would make them look stupid!

Also keep in mind that the post-production for a movie needs weeks even without special effects!

But I still love your theory

ishealive said:

annonymous25 said:

Post edited 9:33 am – July 24, 2009 by annonymous25

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Your theory and synopsis are awesome. You did a great job writing it up! Thank you!

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Excellent theory – I have being wondering this week if this is all part of “This is it”

well lets face it, it would fit in nicely!

especially with a name like 'This is it''

Post edited 5:28 am – July 26, 2009 by iloveyoumore

bubblesthechimp said:

Post edited 6:48 am – July 25, 2009 by bubblesthechimp

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Great theory!

 I bought a lot of tickets… for July and for August . ( I wanted to go for his Birthday) .

2) We have the possibility to choose full refund or the ” golden ticket” but  only if you refuse to have the money back. I think I'm going to ask the refund, they say that it takes at least 21 days to have money back.I don't know what it takes to receive the ticket instead of money.You  can choose the ticket untill the 14th of August  then you can ask only for refund.I'm not sure if someone has already received the ticket but you can go to communities and ask.

Wow.  You're going to ask for a refund?  That's just amazing to me.  Ever thought your “golden ticket” might just be that?  Ever thought that if this crazy theory is right, your “golden ticket” was a test of your fanship and that you could use it in the future for…something golden?  I certainly would always wonder that.  Not to mention I would have kept it even before this theory came out…..even if you've NOT a fan, and this theory is hogwosh, and you aren't sentimental….don't you at least see that it is quite possibly a finicial investment?  I'm sure it will be worth quite a bit.

I'm sorry, that's just incredibly stupid to me, and on so many levels.

elde said:

iloveyoumore said:

Post edited 12:28 pm – July 25, 2009 by iloveyoumore

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bubblesthechimp said:

Post edited 6:48 am – July 25, 2009 by bubblesthechimp

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Great theory!

 I bought a lot of tickets… for July and for August . ( I wanted to go for his Birthday) .

2) We have the possibility to choose full refund or the ” golden ticket” but  only if you refuse to have the money back. I think I'm going to ask the refund, they say that it takes at least 21 days to have money back.I don't know what it takes to receive the ticket instead of money.You  can choose the ticket untill the 14th of August  then you can ask only for refund.I'm not sure if someone has already received the ticket but you can go to communities and ask.

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Wow.  You're going to ask for a refund?  That's just amazing to me.  Ever thought your “golden ticket” might just be that?  Ever thought that if this crazy theory is right, your “golden ticket” was a test of your fanship and that you could use it in the future for…something golden?  I certainly would always wonder that.  Not to mention I would have kept it even before this theory came out…..even if you've NOT a fan, and this theory is hogwosh, and you aren't sentimental….don't you at least see that it is quite possibly a finicial investment?  I'm sure it will be worth quite a bit.

I'm sorry, that's just incredibly stupid to me, and on so many levels.

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 I had orderd and payed (by creditcard) 2 tickets for MJ and recieved an email from ticketmaster i could have a full refund or a 'golden ticket' AT FACE VALUE'. I opted for a full refund on 1 ticket and a 'golden ticket'+ rest of the value of the other 1 ticket. I don't know if this makes a difference but i had 2 VIP-packages (pre- and after party, back stage tour, first row seating, in short the works..lol). In my case the face value is a lot less than the full price for 1 ticket. I haven't seen no refund or ticket though yet. But I'll keep you posted while I keep my hopes up coz' they were expensive, but I thought it was worth it to see him coz' I had missed the previous occasions he came to Belgium.

Don't understand your comment; What's one got to do with the other..??!! The refund and/or memorial 'golden' ticket was an option since a zillion of people already payed for their tickets. I don't know about you but paying for something and not getting anything in return isn't in my book. E1 had payed for the tickets  without receiving any….. (you should have copied and pasted nr 1) as well…)

I'm sorry, I do not understand.   Maybe I'm missing something.  It's quite possible.

 @iloveyoumore: this is the message from bubblesthechimp:

1) Tickets have been sold, I bought them with credit card and ticketmaster took the money from it. What seemed strange is that they told us to wait  a lot for the tickets to be shipped, a lot of us chose  to receive tickets with FEDEX which cost a lot, but they kept saying no one would have received their tickets until a week before the show.At first I thought it was usual policy to prevent scammers from reselling them.Now I think it's odd.

2) We have the possibility to choose full refund or the ” golden ticket” but  only if you refuse to have the money back. I think I'm going to ask the refund, they say that it takes at least 21 days to have money back.I don't know what it takes to receive the ticket instead of money.You  can choose the ticket untill the 14th of August  then you can ask only for refund.I'm not sure if someone has already received the ticket but you can go to communities and ask.

No one has received a ticket, but everyone paid por it; bubblesthechimp hasn't received anything yet, neither have I. It is customary to receive your tickets as late as a week before the concert and even later. The concerts were sold out and no one had received a ticket and now with everything that has happened the ticket sellers are telling their buyers that they can opt for a refund or for a 'golden/memorial' ticket and/or a refund. That's all; it hasn't got anything to do with “fanship” or being “stupid”. I think you misunderstood… greetings from Belgium