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tis_ruthy said:
Something big is happening and its spinning out of control…..read articles on the web, look at you tube, the papers…this death hoax theory is spreading and what was at first a joke, is now a serious topic. This web site is in the fore of all of this and I suspect it may be targeted, there is big money and maybe fraud involved here! I would recommend you save any important information from this site and any links or photographs in case some important information gets “lost”.
Hmm good advice. I have my myspace in my profile too if anyone would like to add. I always like to have new friends.
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10:36 am
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yaya said:
what gives anyone the power to remove a website? especially if it's not violating any laws…
If this site suddenly “disappeared” it would only look MORE suspicious to everyone and a new site could be started. No laws are being broken and shutting down this site would be an admission of guilt. I mean NASA hasn't even worked to shut down moon hoax theory sites. Conspiracy theories should ALWAYS be ignored by highest officials because when they are addressed or attacked or silenced, then it lends credence to the theories. The LAST thing anyone needs to be doing is trying to get this site shut down.
Further… And I hope ADMIN is watching this topic and sees this… but if hosting is OUTSIDE US JURISTICTION then no one can have it removed.
Anyone who can have it removed at this point is at such a high level that it only confirms these theories.
I really encourage the Admin, if this is a fear, to get hosting switched over to a country outside the jurisdiction of the US and any of it's agencies.
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10:44 am
July 28, 2009
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Post edited 3:45 am – July 29, 2009 by tis_ruthy
I have just stated in Rachel's keep in touch post that I feel like i have scared everyone. Freedom of speech should allow this website to stay put, but with weird things going on I needed to stress it is best to save information from this site. There are lots of conspiracy websites on the net from Elvis to 911 but this one is different. Admin…who arn't stupid, knew something was not right with Michael's “death” and opened this website within days of the event. We are changing peoples views and turning theories 360 degrees. This is a fresh case and people will not like what we have to say right now. Please don't be worried, just be cautious.
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10:47 am
July 28, 2009
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i alwayscopy real intresting stuff,so we all sgould do,and if they would close it,we need to restart.then a german page forum for the english peoples,they ant close our s cause our law says as wel
that every one is free to say his opinion.
we already should agree for a name,so we all can find us there….just in case.and all copies posted back in it….
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10:48 am
July 28, 2009
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I Don't Get It .. How Can This Site Get Closed Down When All We're Talking About Is Tha Things Tha Are Going On Since Mj's Death & Even If We Are Speaking Tha Truth & So On .. Its Not Like Anyones Gonna Believe It ?
Come On Alot Of People Are Saying Tha Nothing Adds Up & Assuming Things Like ''Mj's Murdered'' , ''Mj's Dead'' , ''Mj's Alive Into Hiding'' .. I Mean I Still Think Tha Mj Could Be Alive But No Matter Wha We Say .. No-ones Gonna Believe Whatever We're Saying & Even If Tha Media Or Any News Reporter Sees This Site Out .. Ther Just Gonna Think Tha Ther Jus A Bunch Of People Who Have Nothing Better To Do 
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10:50 am
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tis_ruthy said:
Post edited 10:45 am – July 28, 2009 by tis_ruthy
I have just stated in Rachel's keep in touch post that I feel like i have scared everyone. Freedom of speech should allow this website to stay put, but with weird things going on I needed to stress it is best to save information from this site. There are lots of conspiracy websites on the net from Elvis to 911 but this one is different. Admin…who arn't stupid, knew something was not right with Michael's “death” and opened this website within days of the event. We are changing peoples views and turning theories 360 degrees. This is a fresh case and people will not like what we have to say right now. Please don't be worried, just be cautious.
Agreed. I think a lot of people are suddenly saying they believe MJ is dead and they are leaving the site, because you spooked them. They're scared. And you aren't scared if you REALLY believe MJ is dead. Even murdered. Because even if MJ was murdered, then there is no way there is a high enough authority who WOULD shut down this website. The only way anyone would “shut down” this website is if a conspiracy theory is true. But even then… that admits guilt so it woudl be a very stupid move.
People in large agencies need to start understanding that unless you can stop the internet, you can't stop the people. It's like all the companies who have tried to take MJ videos and interviews off of youtube for copyright violation. Five minutes later another fan just puts it back up. And often several fans put up several copies.
The people are LARGER than the agencies now. Be they government or corporations and with something like the internet, you just can't shut everybody up without implicating yourself or your agency. The best thing anyone can do if anything on his site is true is ignore it, mock us, and send plants here to post and try to change he views of others.
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10:52 am
July 28, 2009
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10:53 am
July 28, 2009
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mjfan said:
yaya said:
what gives anyone the power to remove a website? especially if it's not violating any laws…
If this site suddenly “disappeared” it would only look MORE suspicious to everyone and a new site could be started. No laws are being broken and shutting down this site would be an admission of guilt. I mean NASA hasn't even worked to shut down moon hoax theory sites. Conspiracy theories should ALWAYS be ignored by highest officials because when they are addressed or attacked or silenced, then it lends credence to the theories. The LAST thing anyone needs to be doing is trying to get this site shut down.
Further… And I hope ADMIN is watching this topic and sees this… but if hosting is OUTSIDE US JURISTICTION then no one can have it removed.
Anyone who can have it removed at this point is at such a high level that it only confirms these theories.
I really encourage the Admin, if this is a fear, to get hosting switched over to a country outside the jurisdiction of the US and any of it's agencies.
very good point; thanks, mjfan! with that said, even though you just never know (especially with this situation), i doubt the site will be shut down. which is good to know 
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11:11 am
July 28, 2009
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I think that if they wanna close this site if we found out what happenend, that should have allready happenend.
Look at all thoes theories and fed-by-the-media-facts we have gathered. If nothing of this comes even close, I think we can better stop searching!
I really think that if his death is faked, we have here some very good theories that must be close to the truth!
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11:13 am
July 28, 2009
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yaya said:
mjfan said:
yaya said:
what gives anyone the power to remove a website? especially if it's not violating any laws…
If this site suddenly “disappeared” it would only look MORE suspicious to everyone and a new site could be started. No laws are being broken and shutting down this site would be an admission of guilt. I mean NASA hasn't even worked to shut down moon hoax theory sites. Conspiracy theories should ALWAYS be ignored by highest officials because when they are addressed or attacked or silenced, then it lends credence to the theories. The LAST thing anyone needs to be doing is trying to get this site shut down.
Further… And I hope ADMIN is watching this topic and sees this… but if hosting is OUTSIDE US JURISTICTION then no one can have it removed.
Anyone who can have it removed at this point is at such a high level that it only confirms these theories.
I really encourage the Admin, if this is a fear, to get hosting switched over to a country outside the jurisdiction of the US and any of it's agencies.
very good point; thanks, mjfan! with that said, even though you just never know (especially with this situation), i doubt the site will be shut down. which is good to know
I don't think this site will shut down. It doesn't have to. People have very short attention spans and too many people seem to really bleieve that if this isn't all solved and neatly tied in a bow then their suspicions are wrong. I believe that WHATEVER is going on… murder, coma, protective custody, hoax, will take MONTHS to unravel if it in fact does unravel at all.
There is no instant answer here. But people just don't have that kind of attention span. Most people are also very weak-minded. They will change their view at a drop of a hat due to peer pressure and not wanting to “appear crazy.” Few people have independent thoughts, most of us are part of a feedback loop.
No agency NEEDS to do anything but sit back and watch this site self destruct. There has already been division here. There will be more regulars who come out saying they believe MJ is dead and they're leaving the site. That will sway the opinions of some others who look to authority to form their views for them. There will also likely be a lot more people coming onto this site preaching the mainstream media message/view.
WHATEVER happened we have to all remember the media does not tell the truth. Whether MJ is alive or dead they have lied and repeatedly misled the public on many topics, not just Michael Jackson.
I am an agnostic on the issue, I do not know what happened to Michael Jackson and I will not form my view/belief, UNTIL there is enough evidence for me to form a view. I have never stated I believe he's alive or I believe he's dead for sure.
But I really don't think most people have the staying power necesssary to see this through to the end. I'm not sure exactly why time elaspsing is enough for some people to throw in the towel, especially when there is no new compelling evidence to change their view.
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11:20 am
July 28, 2009
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mjfan said:
If this site suddenly “disappeared” it would only look MORE suspicious to everyone and a new site could be started. No laws are being broken and shutting down this site would be an admission of guilt. I mean NASA hasn't even worked to shut down moon hoax theory sites. Conspiracy theories should ALWAYS be ignored by highest officials because when they are addressed or attacked or silenced, then it lends credence to the theories. The LAST thing anyone needs to be doing is trying to get this site shut down.
Further… And I hope ADMIN is watching this topic and sees this… but if hosting is OUTSIDE US JURISTICTION then no one can have it removed.
Anyone who can have it removed at this point is at such a high level that it only confirms these theories.
I really encourage the Admin, if this is a fear, to get hosting switched over to a country outside the jurisdiction of the US and any of it's agencies.
This is exactly what I think and what I wanted to write here. Thanks for doing the work for me! Especially because my English is not as good as yours and I thik you've explained it really better than I could do…
On other side, Admin must have all our mails so, if he/she isn't “working on the bad side”, he/she could save a copy and contact us after web dissapears.
I must regard to all of you one important thing: NO FEAR! Fear makes us weak!
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11:40 am
July 28, 2009
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PepaBCN said:
mjfan said:
If this site suddenly “disappeared” it would only look MORE suspicious to everyone and a new site could be started. No laws are being broken and shutting down this site would be an admission of guilt. I mean NASA hasn't even worked to shut down moon hoax theory sites. Conspiracy theories should ALWAYS be ignored by highest officials because when they are addressed or attacked or silenced, then it lends credence to the theories. The LAST thing anyone needs to be doing is trying to get this site shut down.
Further… And I hope ADMIN is watching this topic and sees this… but if hosting is OUTSIDE US JURISTICTION then no one can have it removed.
Anyone who can have it removed at this point is at such a high level that it only confirms these theories.
I really encourage the Admin, if this is a fear, to get hosting switched over to a country outside the jurisdiction of the US and any of it's agencies.
This is exactly what I think and what I wanted to write here. Thanks for doing the work for me! Especially because my English is not as good as yours and I think you've explained it really better than I could do…
On other side, Admin must have all our mails so, if he/she isn't “working on the bad side”, he/she could save a copy and contact us after web disapears.
I must regard to all of you one important thing: NO FEAR! Fear makes us weak!
i agree too. it would be a bad move to shut down the site, specially when al that is being said here is personal opinions about “news” and facts that have been posted on other places, other ways of viewing some stories, pics and documents posted online, and could be help the hoax theory aswell and i don't think they would want that to happen, because if the site is shut down it could mean some theories were right.
and if this site closes oher one can be easily created, outside US for example.
finally i would like to see Admin. opinion on this.
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11:41 am
July 28, 2009
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mjfan said:
I don't think this site will shut down. It doesn't have to. People have very short attention spans and too many people seem to really bleieve that if this isn't all solved and neatly tied in a bow then their suspicions are wrong. I believe that WHATEVER is going on… murder, coma, protective custody, hoax, will take MONTHS to unravel if it in fact does unravel at all.
There is no instant answer here. But people just don't have that kind of attention span. Most people are also very weak-minded. They will change their view at a drop of a hat due to peer pressure and not wanting to “appear crazy.” Few people have independent thoughts, most of us are part of a feedback loop.
No agency NEEDS to do anything but sit back and watch this site self destruct. There has already been division here. There will be more regulars who come out saying they believe MJ is dead and they're leaving the site. That will sway the opinions of some others who look to authority to form their views for them. There will also likely be a lot more people coming onto this site preaching the mainstream media message/view.
WHATEVER happened we have to all remember the media does not tell the truth. Whether MJ is alive or dead they have lied and repeatedly misled the public on many topics, not just Michael Jackson.
I am an agnostic on the issue, I do not know what happened to Michael Jackson and I will not form my view/belief, UNTIL there is enough evidence for me to form a view. I have never stated I believe he's alive or I believe he's dead for sure.
But I really don't think most people have the staying power necesssary to see this through to the end. I'm not sure exactly why time elaspsing is enough for some people to throw in the towel, especially when there is no new compelling evidence to change their view.
It's sad to tell but you're completely right! Luckily I have no fear to “appear crazy”. I've appeared like that all my whole life! 
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12:01 pm
July 28, 2009
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Jori said:
Well, my concern is for 'admin' whoever he or she may be. Truthfully, we honestly have the right to discuss theories and conjecture, because that's all we're doing at this point. However, if there is something afoot, it would behoove us to be judicious with our words…
Janefox53 said:
There is no law on any books whatsoever that states that you cannot give your opinion or a scernio/hypothesis to any
givien subject that is only pure speculation on any website, what are they going to do, hunt you down, don't think
so, if this goes as deep as I think it does, no one will dare show their hand at this stage, it would be stupid and permature.
like the you said” maybe lots of money at stake”. who knows, that why when you make a statement always say
maybe, might, in my opinion, or even I heard, no one can put concerte aon any of those words, because that's what
they are, just merely words we are just think maybe the cause to something we think in our minds or hearts,
whose gonna put your heart on trail? NO ONE, we have freedom of speech, no one can ever take that away
from the public.
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12:03 pm
July 28, 2009
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Wow!! I have been in work all day and have only just logged onto the site, only to find people running scared jing ship! Well, Im in this for the long haul, until there is some conclusive evidence that Michael Jackson is indeed dead.
I feel like things are coming to a head and that something big will happen in the next week or so, maybe even august 1st who knows!
Anyway if something happens to this site, what do you say we all meet up on the official michael jackson website? I dont have a myspace but can be found on facebook from my profile-I dont wanna lose touch with you guys you have given me hope all the way through this. Lets not stop now!
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12:06 pm
July 28, 2009
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bexuk said:
Wow!! I have been in work all day and have only just logged onto the site, only to find people running scared jing ship! Well, Im in this for the long haul, until there is some conclusive evidence that Michael Jackson is indeed dead.
I feel like things are coming to a head and that something big will happen in the next week or so, maybe even august 1st who knows!
Anyway if something happens to this site, what do you say we all meet up on the official michael jackson website? I dont have a myspace but can be found on facebook from my profile-I dont wanna lose touch with you guys you have given me hope all the way through this. Lets not stop now!
Bex,
Have a look at the topic I started http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxd…..mp;ret=all
I suggested that we swap info eg: Myspace, Twitter and there is a link for a new site which Souza set up in case anything happens to this one 
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12:07 pm
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annonymous25 said:
tis_ruthy said:
Something big is happening and its spinning out of control…..read articles on the web, look at you tube, the papers…this death hoax theory is spreading and what was at first a joke, is now a serious topic. This web site is in the fore of all of this and I suspect it may be targeted, there is big money and maybe fraud involved here! I would recommend you save any important information from this site and any links or photographs in case some important information gets “lost”.
Hmm good advice. I have my myspace in my profile too if anyone would like to add. I always like to have new friends.
Thanks for telling us.
Im gonna save every importent thing on here.
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12:12 pm
July 28, 2009
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I am on the official Michael website as tis_ruthy
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12:36 pm
July 28, 2009
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Rachel said:
bexuk said:
Wow!! I have been in work all day and have only just logged onto the site, only to find people running scared jing ship! Well, Im in this for the long haul, until there is some conclusive evidence that Michael Jackson is indeed dead.
I feel like things are coming to a head and that something big will happen in the next week or so, maybe even august 1st who knows!
Anyway if something happens to this site, what do you say we all meet up on the official michael jackson website? I dont have a myspace but can be found on facebook from my profile-I dont wanna lose touch with you guys you have given me hope all the way through this. Lets not stop now!
Bex,
Have a look at the topic I started http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxd…..mp;ret=all
I suggested that we swap info eg: Myspace, Twitter and there is a link for a new site which Souza set up in case anything happens to this one
Hey Rachel, thanks for that!!!
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12:37 pm
July 28, 2009
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bexuk said:
Hey Rachel, thanks for that!!!
No worries Chick. I love this site and the people and would be so sad if something happened to it and we all lost touch. Now we can cyber stalk each other lol
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12:58 pm
July 28, 2009
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I feel like I may have missed something.
As I stated in another post, I have not been able to follow everything very closely due to time constraints. Can someone please fill me in? Why would this site be shut down? What are your concerns? If you're worried about anything, a private message will be fine too.
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1:01 pm
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Reflection said:
I feel like I may have missed something.
As I stated in another post, I have not been able to follow everything very closely due to time constraints. Can someone please fill me in? Why would this site be shut down? What are your concerns? If you're worried about anything, a private message will be fine too.
THANK YOU!
Hey Reflection!
I think we may have all over reacted a bit! Quite a few people have left the forum today and there has been some worries that as we are getting closer to finding things out that the forum may be closed for some reason – but this is not the case! Sorry if we scared you!
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1:09 pm
July 28, 2009
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Thank you for explaining the situation to me, Rachel.
I admit I was beginning to get a little worried. Thank you for alleviating my worries.
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1:39 pm
July 28, 2009
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I've signed up using WomanInTheMirror27 …..I know I haven't contibuted anything on all the threads here..But i share the same thoughts and feelings with you guys and I want to be updated on things.
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11:45 pm
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12:07 am
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The articles that I saw referring to this site pretty much make us out to be crazy. They compare the site to the rest of the crazy things that have always been reported when it comes to Michael. We all know the press's favorite name for Michael and that is what they are implying to anyone that believes Michael is not dead. Basically we are a joke. So I really don't think that anyone will try and shut this site down, as pointed out another can easily be started again and again and again. If anything it will be watched and if someone comes close to the truth or close to figuring out something there will be a new breaking story on something pertaining to the investigation. I don't think anyone wants to draw attention to this as far as to the media actually taking it seriously.
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7:24 am
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Jori said:
Well, my concern is for 'admin'
I think admin is safe.
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