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7:04 am July 20, 2009
| jewell
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I am just wondering who here is leaning toward that he has passed…
but believes that there is something strange around the circumstances that surround his death….
example, you think it is murder, overdose, heart attack, terminal illness….etc.
This is not to go against others beliefs or to squash any hope that others have….but just to discuss other possibilities
I personally was 100% sure that it was a hoax and that is what led me here…
I was convinced that he would jump out of the coffin….
but after all this time has passed, I am unfortunately leaning towards that he has passed on….
too much time has almost passed to be a hoax for a comeback…
But, I do belive that there is still something not right…
ie: he did use some double for the last appearances because he was ill, or maybe murder…
or there was a deep hidden drug dependency…..
I know that there are others like myself that think this and I would love to hear your opinion…
Please lets keep from arguing,
if you don't feel like he is gone, please be respectful of others opinions.
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7:10 am July 20, 2009
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Hi! I have the same sentiments, too!
I am still in a 50-50 state in regards to the whole issue. Some conspiracies MAY turn out to be mere coincidences, but I do admit there are many weird and unexplained stuff. (Well, that's what led us all into here, isn't it! =p)
There's more to it than it meets the eye!
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jewell said:
I am just wondering who here is leaning toward that he has passed…
but believes that there is something strange around the circumstances that surround his death….
example, you think it is murder, overdose, heart attack, terminal illness….etc.
This is not to go against others beliefs or to squash any hope that others have….but just to discuss other possibilities
I personally was 100% sure that it was a hoax and that is what led me here…
I was convinced that he would jump out of the coffin….
but after all this time has passed, I am unfortunately leaning towards that he has passed on….
too much time has almost passed to be a hoax for a comeback…
But, I do belive that there is still something not right…
ie: he did use some double for the last appearances because he was ill, or maybe murder…
or there was a deep hidden drug dependency…..
I know that there are others like myself that think this and I would love to hear your opinion…
Please lets keep from arguing,
if you don't feel like he is gone, please be respectful of others opinions.
Yeah, I don't know what to think anymore. I really hope that he is still alive and doing well somewhere.
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7:33 am July 20, 2009
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I think that Michael is indeed dead. But I think the hoax has more to do with the time of his death and the circumstances surrounding it…I believe that he knew he was dying, that he had some terminal disease and that perhaps he had already died a month or so before his “official” death on the 25th of June…Hence the tearless memorial which was not attended by some of his closest friends…and the children and brothers surely looked like they were much further in the process of mourning than if he had died a couple of weeks ago, suddenly. I'm a child psychologist and from what I saw from those three children at the memorial…they seem like they had A LONG time to get accustomed to the fact that their dad was dying/had died AND they were on anti-depressants for some time or on tranquilizers for the actual service.
MJ was a loving and responsible father and no matter what he seemed to put his children first. There's no chance he was a prescription-drug junkie, he would have done something about it or would be made to do something, like when he went in detox in the mid 90's when he had that same problem. Let's face it…Michael Jackson was a thriller…he wouldn't want to be remembered like the guy that died at 50 from a long disease after years of no contribution to the music industry, that wouldn't be “cool” enough for his image. He arranged the concerts when he already knew he didn't have much time left and died a mystery death just at the time everyone was ecstatic at the prospect of his comeback.
Well, that's my opinion. I absolutely adore Michael Jackson and deep in my heart I too hope it was just a hoax to get away from everything…however if that was the case and he was actually fit…I believe he would have done a couple of the This Is It concerts, then fake his death due to exaustion and stuff, that would have been much easier…
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7:48 am July 20, 2009
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Scarletroad said:
I think that Michael is indeed dead. But I think the hoax has more to do with the time of his death and the circumstances surrounding it…I believe that he knew he was dying, that he had some terminal disease and that perhaps he had already died a month or so before his “official” death on the 25th of June…Hence the tearless memorial which was not attended by some of his closest friends…and the children and brothers surely looked like they were much further in the process of mourning than if he had died a couple of weeks ago, suddenly. I'm a child psychologist and from what I saw from those three children at the memorial…they seem like they had A LONG time to get accustomed to the fact that their dad was dying/had died AND they were on anti-depressants for some time or on tranquilizers for the actual service.
MJ was a loving and responsible father and no matter what he seemed to put his children first. There's no chance he was a prescription-drug junkie, he would have done something about it or would be made to do something, like when he went in detox in the mid 90's when he had that same problem. Let's face it…Michael Jackson was a thriller…he wouldn't want to be remembered like the guy that died at 50 from a long disease after years of no contribution to the music industry, that wouldn't be “cool” enough for his image. He arranged the concerts when he already knew he didn't have much time left and died a mystery death just at the time everyone was ecstatic at the prospect of his comeback.
Well, that's my opinion. I absolutely adore Michael Jackson and deep in my heart I too hope it was just a hoax to get away from everything…however if that was the case and he was actually fit…I believe he would have done a couple of the This Is It concerts, then fake his death due to exaustion and stuff, that would have been much easier…
I agree with you. I also believe that he might have died already months ago..
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7:56 am July 20, 2009
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Hiya me friends .. sorry but I tend to differ and wish to share my point of view. Although I'm sometimes like Moonwalker Girl hanging on a 50/50 state but each time I read the news I tend to have a different opinion of what is actually reported.
I.E. Michael said to be in debts… My opinion: He made that up to avoid losing his assets while he's suppose to be 'dead'. He owns 50% of Sony Music. When his Mom enquires about it his lawyer states that he's in debts of about US200.00 Million then an additional debts of US500.00 for Neverland.. It was stated tht both partners opts to remain unnamed.. The mystery surrounds the Mansion…
I could be wrong but that is what I believe at the moment.
Good day all.
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7:57 am July 20, 2009
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Yes, the dying months ago theory does make sense…
I had not considered that…
hummm… interesting!
You know that could tie in with Liza's statement that “all hell will break loose when the autopsy results come back”
Meaning it will be a month old autopsy…. that would be interesting.
And i do feel like he was possibly ill and he knew it.
here is a link to the theory i am leaning towards that i posted earlier…
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxd…..mp;ret=all
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8:11 am July 20, 2009
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Hi jewell, i just read your link, hadn't seen it before… *thumbs up*
I wonder if they're going to reveal the real autopsy, I highly doubt it though…I think it's taking so long (even the most detailed of autopsies don't take more than three weeks) because of all the people that have to be payed not to talk or to let false information leak…and they have to come up with something believable so that noone gets prosecuted, because it was not any doctor's fault! It'll be tricky…I bet they re just going to say that he died of natural causes…
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8:16 am July 20, 2009
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Yes, the old Michael Jackson is dead but the new Michael Jackson will be back with new identity, new face and new singing vocal. He is a visionary and very creative. He can easily becomes somebody new and start a new kind of music career.
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8:33 am July 20, 2009
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Elizabeth said:
Yes, the old Michael Jackson is dead but the new Michael Jackson will be back with new identity, new face and new singing vocal. He is a visionary and very creative. He can easily becomes somebody new and start a new kind of music career.
Would love if this was true! But I think that even if that was the case, he would “come back” in the film industry (directing, so no need to use his face or name, easier for a “dead” guy!) than music. He's been saying for years that he didn't want to do music anymore and that he wanted to turn his career to directing…
But that's probably wayyy wishful thinking anyway…
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8:34 am July 20, 2009
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Elizabeth said:
Yes, the old Michael Jackson is dead but the new Michael Jackson will be back with new identity, new face and new singing vocal. He is a visionary and very creative. He can easily becomes somebody new and start a new kind of music career.
Would love if this was true! But I think that even if that was the case, he would “come back” in the film industry (directing, so no need to use his face or name, easier for a “dead” guy!) than music. He's been saying for years that he didn't want to do music anymore and that he wanted to turn his career to directing…
But that's probably wayyy wishful thinking anyway…
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8:37 am July 20, 2009
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me
I believe that AEG Live is behind all this
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8:44 am July 20, 2009
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Thank you for sharing Jewell.. An interesting read. Differs from my theory but something for me to think about too as I still have that 50 hanging over my head.. Lets share what ever theory we may have in future. Our opinions may differ but it's nice to be able to share what others think differently as we don't really know what happened that fateful night.. Here if you will my link to my post. BTW it been lovely meeting all of ya.. Hugz
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxd…..mp;ret=all
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxd…..mp;ret=all
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxd…..mp;ret=all
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8:46 am July 20, 2009
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well said:
me
I believe that AEG Live is behind all this
Yes Well, they are the one that has the answer..
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9:03 am July 20, 2009
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right now I am 70 procent on that he is alive
and 30 procent of its been a murder,all I know right now is things dont add up.
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9:04 am July 20, 2009
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well said:
me
I believe that AEG Live is behind all this
Do you think that they are behind his death?
or behind the hoax for a comeback?
(I always enjoy your posts, well! )
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9:06 am July 20, 2009
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mir26 said:
right now I am 70 procent on that he is alive
and 30 procent of its been a murder,all I know right now is things dont add up.
me 2
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9:47 am July 20, 2009
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well said:
me
I believe that AEG Live is behind all this
You´re right! If there is somebody who benefits from the whole thing, it´s without a doubt AEG Live.
They sold out all their planned 10 – 30 – 50 concert shows
(how many people won´t change back tickets??)
- they hosted the Memorial Service,
- they will release their “This is it” DVD
and, as it was reported today,
they even hired Doc Murray!
strange, isn´t it?
Hm, I wonder why this simple fact almost disappears in our discussion…..
Or do you really believe in the “financial loss” they claim to have?…
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9:56 am July 20, 2009
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J.A.N.E.T. said:
well said:
me
I believe that AEG Live is behind all this
You´re right! If there is somebody who benefits from the whole thing, it´s without a doubt AEG Live.
They sold out all their planned 10 – 30 – 50 concert shows
(how many people won´t change back tickets??)
- they hosted the Memorial Service,
- they will release their “This is it” DVD
and, as it was reported today,
they even hired Doc Murray!
strange, isn´t it?
Hm, I wonder why this simple fact almost disappears in our discussion…..
Or do you really believe in the “financial loss” they claim to have?…
I had 2 VIP tickets for the second concert and have received confirmation a couple of days ago that I would be fully refunded. I'll let you guys know if and when I receive the money..
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10:11 am July 20, 2009
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I had 2 VIP tickets for the second concert and have received confirmation a couple of days ago that I would be fully refunded. I'll let you guys know if and when I receive the money..
I will follow the news – anyway it will be interesting, who will have to pay the bill in the end….?
- in any case, that much is true – AEG makes profit.
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7:26 pm July 20, 2009
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AEG also provided the 5 hour physical for Michael where they said he was in excellent health. BS, do we agree that was Michael dancing to “they don't care about us” the night before his death because that guy was not healthy, doesn't even come close to the moves he used to pull. He was very, very thin and didn't look well at all so AEG is exagerating on him passing his physical so they could get the insurance.
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4:29 am July 21, 2009
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Indeed, at the rehearsal it looked like the different moves didn't come natural to Mcihael, the way they used to. It looked cramped and he looked exhausted. Not a healthy person at all…
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5:11 am July 21, 2009
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well said:
me
I believe that AEG Live is behind all this
That kenny ortega i didnt like that guy…(AEG)
I dont know what to think anymore either
Im 50/50
I wish i could be 100%
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5:25 am July 21, 2009
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I believe Michael has died…There is a picture on site of 'Blanket' at the memorial with tears in his eyes…Poor little guy.
That's no bullshit..What was wrong with Michael?? That's the mystery to me now…Did he have Lupus?? I know he had Vitiligo.
The Skin cancer that he also supposedly had is caused by the Vitiligo..Was he a drug addict?? I have seen pics of Michael looking very thin..I mean thin..Then there were reports about him having only six months to live..He died around 5 months later…Lupus can affect every organ in the body apparently..I have a friend who has been recently diagnosed..So I do know a little about the disease. There are some strange circumstances behind Mikes death…Jermaine said in an interview that Michael passed the physical for the O2 concerts..Could Mike have been murdered?? This is the real mystery now..Love to all..xxxx
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5:32 am July 21, 2009
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Who should have murdered him and WHY???
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The intuition of free will gives us the truth.
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5:33 am July 21, 2009
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Post edited 10:35 pm – July 21, 2009 by holland
Another day has gone I'm still all alone How could this be You're not here with me You never said goodbye Someone tell me why Did you have to go And leave my world so cold
Everyday I sit and ask myself How did love slip away Something whispers in my ear and says
You are not alone I'm a here with you Though you're far away I am here to stay
You are not alone I am here with you Though we're far apart You're always in my heart You are not alone
All alone Why, alone Ain't the pictures enough, why do you go through so much To get the story you need, so you can bury me You've got the people confused, you tell the stories you choose You try to get me to lose the man I really am
You keep on stalking me, invading my privacy Won't you just let me be 'Cause your cameras can't control, the minds of those who know That you'll even sell your soul just to get a story sold
I need my privacy, I need my privacy So paparazzi, get away from me
Now there's a lesson to learn, respect's not given, it's earned Stop maliciously attacking my integrity
Now there's a lesson to learn, stories are twisted and turned Stop maliciously attacking my integrity
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5:37 am July 21, 2009
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carelesslove46 said:
I believe Michael has died…There is a picture on site of 'Blanket' at the memorial with tears in his eyes…Poor little guy.
That's no bullshit..What was wrong with Michael?? That's the mystery to me now…Did he have Lupus?? I know he had Vitiligo.
The Skin cancer that he also supposedly had is caused by the Vitiligo..Was he a drug addict?? I have seen pics of Michael looking very thin..I mean thin..Then there were reports about him having only six months to live..He died around 5 months later…Lupus can affect every organ in the body apparently..I have a friend who has been recently diagnosed..So I do know a little about the disease. There are some strange circumstances behind Mikes death…Jermaine said in an interview that Michael passed the physical for the O2 concerts..Could Mike have been murdered?? This is the real mystery now..Love to all..xxxx
Yes, i just saw that thread and responded…
There is no way any good loving parent would put their children up there to cover for a comeback or escape…
that would be the most selfish thing to do…. just heartbreaking!
mj loved children too much.
the mother in me wanted to grab those children and get them out of there… so sad…
but i think that is almost proof that he is gone!
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5:43 am July 21, 2009
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Yes, I agree jewell..Mike has gone..I am hoping the strange circumstances surrounding his death is investigated properly though. Take care..xx
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5:59 am July 21, 2009
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elde said:
Indeed, at the rehearsal it looked like the different moves didn't come natural to Mcihael, the way they used to. It looked cramped and he looked exhausted. Not a healthy person at all…
The man we see dancing in the rehearsal footage is obviously not the same that showed up at the AEG Live press announcement.
My question would be: which one of both did the insurance company see?
The tought alone, this “Hoax” should turn out to be a cruel, money driven crime – it tears my heart apart…. undesribable sad.
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6:09 am July 21, 2009
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i cannot imagine that a doctor would examine a person during 4 hours thinking it's somebody else??
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