Michael Jackson Hoax Death

Til now,we all have made a list of things that make us think that Michael should be still alive.

I think at this point we should also ask ourself: what would really make me believe he is dead?

Death certificate? A LAPD declaration? A real interview to Dr Murray?…

This question I asked myself,and It made me think a lot….

in any case.If we make a list of what we really expect to see or hear for believing the death story, then we will get to a point.

Otherwise we will always hope in the hoax theory…

I don't know about you… I prefer to know the truth,even if it can be sad for me.

Thanks for you helping preparing the list!!

I personally would like to hear from some of Michaels “real” close friends.  And why they were not at the memorial ceremony.

The autopsys, his close friends, why were they not there. Where are they going to bury him…..

Hmmm, for me it would have been an accurate account of what actually took place. But since they already screwed that up…

Now I tell you what is inside of me:

-the body proof-at now i think we cannot have any body proof. Do you mean a picture or what?ANd what kind of picture there can be after more than one month he has gone?(maybe better to have a picture of him alive somwhere else,isn't it?)

-interview with UCLA doctor that was on the scene.-if we consider the good “movie” hoax theory,by Souza81-also the interview should be fake (fake as Dr Murray should be)..or whoever can lie,same as Michael's family! And it is much easier to lie for “money”!!

- Dr Murray going to prison (Michael would never let an innocent go to prison). SOmeone would tell us,but why would we believe? I think at that time we should need a picture of Dr having meal inside the jail.But..it should be photoshopped….

-toxicology reports revealed-also that could be fake.And… revealed by who? By media?

-close friends….big deal… If ELisabeth taylor ,Culkin, Quincy..etc…come out now saying:we are so sad because Michael is not with us anymore..and bla..bla.. I honestly should  think they are trying to “cover”him,to cover his hoax.

and..if “he is not with them” ..maybe he can be with someone else!!! Maybe with his private girlfriend??

mmmmmmmhhhhhhh

Hard to come to an end. 

mjfan said:

Post edited 7:19 am – August 4, 2009 by mjfan

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My list:

Official Death Certificate

Some kind of statement/interview with a UCLA doc that was there at the time (though I know I won't get that, even if he's dead cause of HIPPA.  Still he should have made the announcement, not Jermaine.)

I would like ONE story on how he died, where he died, when he died.  NOT fifty different stories from different news sources that all contradict.  The coma story from CNN and Headlines News is a HUGE contradiction with Jermaine's statement.  Also, reports that MJ may have been dead for hours is a huge contradiction with both Murray's lawyer's statement, AND Jermaine's statement that MJ was warm still at the hospital.  Also being dead 30 minutes before calling 911 contradicts with him still being warm.  If MJ was able to be kept alive at all for 30 minutes, then the coma story is far likely to be true than the death story.  He would have HAD to be revived to be warm as Jermaine claims.    Also this conflict between a weak pulse and giving CPR.  I want ONE story from a credible news source on even just the most BASIC details of this case.

The Toxicology reports revealed.

A case ACTUALLY GOING TO TRIAL against Murray involving manslaughter or some other charge that state unequivocally that MJ is dead.  I know that MJ would not let an innocent man go to prison.  That's not in him. So if that happens and goes through then MJ is definitely dead.

An actual burial of the body.

What I will NOT accept as proof, is interviews with a family that can't get their story straight.  I don't care how many tears they cry on camera NOW, no offense if the family truly is mourning, but they've all acted bizarre up to this point and can't get their stories straight.  Given that, witness testimony from that family is completely non-credible and they should stop being used as proof of anything, IMO.

I agree 100%!!!

Post edited 8:02 am – August 4, 2009 by MissC

The memorial is what makes me strongly believe he is alive. I thought that would be it but it just wasn't.

- The casket. It would have helped if they had the casket opened. I wouldn't have anything to object if that was the case but it wasn't. I know it sounds morbid, but it would have helped a lot. Then I would think he is indeed dead.

- It doesn't make much sense for them to have a private memorial before the public one, with an open casket, saying he looked 'peaceful and like Michael' and then say they didn't want the casket opened because of all the damage he sufered on his face.

- None of his real close friends atteneded. I could understand if one or two didn't come, but all of them is just weird. Quincy Jones excuse was really lame. Instead of paying tribute to your friend you prefer to go to Europe with your girlfriend just because 'I can't go through it, I can't stand funerals' (or something along those lines he said) ? Give me a break. A friend is with you no matter what. That's what a true friend.

- It would also help if his family gave a straight story instead of messing with out heads. One day this, the other that. WTF.

Talk is cheap, that's all I know. That's why I take what his family and newspapers say with a grain of salt.

mmz said:

Now I tell you what is inside of me:

-the body proof-at now i think we cannot have any body proof. Do you mean a picture or what?ANd what kind of picture there can be after more than one month he has gone?(maybe better to have a picture of him alive somwhere else,isn't it?)

-interview with UCLA doctor that was on the scene.-if we consider the good “movie” hoax theory,by Souza81-also the interview should be fake (fake as Dr Murray should be)..or whoever can lie,same as Michael's family! And it is much easier to lie for “money”!!

- Dr Murray going to prison (Michael would never let an innocent go to prison). SOmeone would tell us,but why would we believe? I think at that time we should need a picture of Dr having meal inside the jail.But..it should be photoshopped….

-toxicology reports revealed-also that could be fake.And… revealed by who? By media?

-close friends….big deal… If ELisabeth taylor ,Culkin, Quincy..etc…come out now saying:we are so sad because Michael is not with us anymore..and bla..bla.. I honestly should  think they are trying to “cover”him,to cover his hoax.

and..if “he is not with them” ..maybe he can be with someone else!!! Maybe with his private girlfriend??

mmmmmmmhhhhhhh

Hard to come to an end. 

You can't fake Dr.Murray going to trial.  The court transcripts would be available to the public.  And you would get them through an OFFICIAL court source.  Sure, you can still be a conspiracy theorist about it, but you look loonier and loonier at that point.

mjfan said:

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You can't fake Dr.Murray going to trial.  The court transcripts would be available to the public.  And you would get them through an OFFICIAL court source.  Sure, you can still be a conspiracy theorist about it, but you look loonier and loonier at that point.

I am talking about myself.ANd think. I thought just you should have helped me in understanding which would be the real proof for the hoax. 

I can't find any answer by me. At this moment,I can believe all as I can believe anything. Just confused.It happens,isn't it?

shydog59 said:

Paige said:

I personally would like to hear from some of Michaels “real” close friends.  And why they were not at the memorial ceremony.

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i would like to see some real or even fake emotions from his family.why was janet the only sister that actually showed her face?what was up with those oversized hats that latoya and rebbie was wearing?usher showed more emotion than micheal's family.an actual autopsy photo and an actual body and a real burial .those are some of the things that has not been forthcoming.

I agree Usher did seem really emotional and so did Mariah Carey. Brooke Shields did as well but seeing as she is a professional actress it could of been fake. Paris Jackson DID cry real tears at the beginning of the memorial but they were not shown on TV and her Auntie La Toya held her in her arms sounds very sweet. One thing was strange is there is a photo of the 3 Jackson sisters after the memorial and Rebbie Jackson is smiling a big smile! And  yes why BIG HATS and SUNGLASSES? Why was Prince chewing gum? There should of been an open coffin.