Michael Jackson Hoax Death

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surprised by my reaction…..tears are flowing…

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7:16 pm
August 3, 2009


fegemermaid

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I guess it is finally true…..I never thought that it would be confirmed. The LIFE INSURANCE POLICY HASBEEN CLAIMED…..Tenderoni said it all in her post I guess.

I feel so ridiculous…. I came to this site with such a superior attitude….everone at work told me how CRAZY I was, how STUPID I was,

I was NOT some crazed fan, sure I love Michael, his humanitarianism touched me more then ANYTHING….but I was here because I just KNEW that he was alive……now I sit here crying my eyes out….I can hardly see my stupid computer screen.

DAMN IT…….why does this hurt so much? I am being sincere when I say that I owe every single person on this site an apology that I EVER thought that I was above emotion as far as this whole hoax was concerned, and 'rolled my eyes' when someone got a little too mellowdramatic……..look at me now…..My heart is……..BROKEN…..and I can't seem to get my tears to stop…..

I'm sorry if this doesn't make sense…

“More persons, on the whole, are humbugged by believing in nothing, than by believing too much”~P.T. BARNUM~ “…they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables” (II Timothy 4:4).

7:18 pm
August 3, 2009


pinkrose35

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I'm right there with you.

7:18 pm
August 3, 2009


You Are Not Alone

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Dont worry, you are not alone. His Humananitarian touched me too, dont cry.

MJ IS TOOO SEXY !!!!

7:20 pm
August 3, 2009


Tenderoni

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It's completely natural, and it's ok.  It just shows you are human

7:22 pm
August 3, 2009


tis_ruthy

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which news report stated its been claimed?

7:26 pm
August 3, 2009


BelieverAngel90

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Post edited 12:26 pm – August 4, 2009 by BelieverAngel90


fegemermaid said:

I guess it is finally true…..I never thought that it would be confirmed. The LIFE INSURANCE POLICY HASBEEN CLAIMED…..Tenderoni said it all in her post I guess.

I feel so ridiculous…. I came to this site with such a superior attitude….everone at work told me how CRAZY I was, how STUPID I was,

I was NOT some crazed fan, sure I love Michael, his humanitarianism touched me more then ANYTHING….but I was here because I just KNEW that he was alive……now I sit here crying my eyes out….I can hardly see my stupid computer screen.

DAMN IT…….why does this hurt so much? I am being sincere when I say that I owe every single person on this site an apology that I EVER thought that I was above emotion as far as this whole hoax was concerned, and 'rolled my eyes' when someone got a little too mellowdramatic……..look at me now…..My heart is……..BROKEN…..and I can't seem to get my tears to stop…..

I'm sorry if this doesn't make sense…


It Is OK to Cry , Hon … believe me -  I was crying happy tears when I heard that … you are alone on that …..

“Michael … I understand … I am sad I never got to talk to you … like a normal person.” *Sweet Sweet Earth Angel A.K.A. Michael*

7:27 pm
August 3, 2009


tis_ruthy

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Im no legal expert but they pay out death insurance when  the cause of death still is yet to be known??

7:28 pm
August 3, 2009


KARENSHEARTBELONGSTOMJ

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O.K. Let's stay focused here. Who said this?

Remember the Admin is posting the top stories here bringing out the obvious since day 1.

Just because they say it has been claimed doesn't make it true.

Beleive nothing! Question everything!

7:28 pm
August 3, 2009


doonbuggy

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because someone says it, its true?????????????????


I asked for proof of this and was denied.

Razzle-Dazzle!

7:29 pm
August 3, 2009


carelesslove46

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Awww, sweetheart, he IS living…Just in a different way now…He is still looking after us all..Believe that ok…Take care hun..I know how you feel..Believe me…I didn't want it to be true either…But sometimes we have to face cruel reality's..Stay strong ok…xxxxxxxx

7:31 pm
August 3, 2009


Tenderoni

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tis_ruthy said:

Im no legal expert but they pay out death insurance when  the cause of death still is yet to be known??


Yes.  This has all been addressed in other threads.


7:32 pm
August 3, 2009


SeeingClues

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I think this was a sort of sobering news in a sense to many of us.   The news hit me hard.  I feel like we need a group hug.

Then I think..what is worse…to bear the pain of this now and get thru this together, or hold onto hope for a few more months, continue to get more and more emotionally invested in this “hoax”, to be even more disappointed when nothing happens.

The fact that they haven't released the autopsy results or buried him has caused this to persist…if they released the autopsy results already then perhaps we would be focusing on trying to find out who/what is responsible for the death.  All of the inconsistencies has lent to the idea of a hoax, but in reality it is most likely a suspicious or careless death.

To be honest, when he didn't come back at the time of the memorial, inside I was starting to lose hope.

I hope I'm wrong, but hoping doesn't make him alive if he has passed.

Perhaps we take the best of what MJ was and carry that on it our own lives…so his death isn't in vain….be humble, have pride in your work, take time for others, tell them you “love them more”.  When you do that..a part of MJ lives on through you.

7:35 pm
August 3, 2009


mjfan

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tis_ruthy said:

Im no legal expert but they pay out death insurance when  the cause of death still is yet to be known??


Good catch.  I wonder about that too.  I was pretty sure that they had to have the cause of death figured out before life insurance would pay out.  I was also pretty sure that cause of death hasn't been determined mainly because there could be a manslaughter case and that is something that would have to be proven in a court of law.  I could be wrong here and if I am, someone correct me, but when someone dies under mysterious circumstances and there is an ongoing investigation and possible criminal charges… then is it normal for an insurance company to pay out life insurance BEFORE those court proceedings?

Insurance companies are pretty thorough.  This just seems a little off to me.  Thoughts?

7:35 pm
August 3, 2009


fegemermaid

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I am just so…..I don't know…I have NEVER gotten emotional over a celebrity passing away….I told myself I JUST wanted to figure it out, it was a puzzle to be solved, a mystery….nothing more.

And now…..I am crying my eyes out and I feel so……SAD…..I wanted to prove that this was all fake, I kept sauing “You'll see”…… everyone at work has given me such a hard time because I have always been such a pessimist….I always saw everything in black and white, there were no such things as gray areas, something either was or it wasn't….period.

Now….I am just so sad….

I NEVER expected to feel anything one way or the other, whatever the outcome, whatever the TRUTH was….

And I can't seem to stop my tears from falling……


“More persons, on the whole, are humbugged by believing in nothing, than by believing too much”~P.T. BARNUM~ “…they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables” (II Timothy 4:4).

7:37 pm
August 3, 2009


tis_ruthy

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The ambulance photo taken by a photographer who admits he was huge fan of Michael's and they were friends, the video footage from Michael's home  is conveniently misplaced,  every single member of Michael's family talks about him in the present tense, the autopsy indefinitely postponed….if this was a normal member of public….would any of this be normal??..it would be one of two things…a murder case or a death hoax!

7:37 pm
August 3, 2009


SeeingClues

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mjfan said:

tis_ruthy said:

Im no legal expert but they pay out death insurance when  the cause of death still is yet to be known??


Good catch.  I wonder about that too.  I was pretty sure that they had to have the cause of death figured out before life insurance would pay out.  I was also pretty sure that cause of death hasn't been determined mainly because there could be a manslaughter case and that is something that would have to be proven in a court of law.  I could be wrong here and if I am, someone correct me, but when someone dies under mysterious circumstances and there is an ongoing investigation and possible criminal charges… then is it normal for an insurance company to pay out life insurance BEFORE those court proceedings?

Insurance companies are pretty thorough.  This just seems a little off to me.  Thoughts?


remember, there was a private autopsy…the family isn't required to release the results to the public (i don't think but perhaps someone on this site who is a lawyer can confirm)…they could have released them privately to the insurance company.  

7:44 pm
August 3, 2009


tis_ruthy

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England

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oh im sure if the family knew latoya would be saying something!

7:45 pm
August 3, 2009


melluvsmike25

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fegemermaid said:

I guess it is finally true…..I never thought that it would be confirmed. The LIFE INSURANCE POLICY HASBEEN CLAIMED…..Tenderoni said it all in her post I guess.

I feel so ridiculous…. I came to this site with such a superior attitude….everone at work told me how CRAZY I was, how STUPID I was,

I was NOT some crazed fan, sure I love Michael, his humanitarianism touched me more then ANYTHING….but I was here because I just KNEW that he was alive……now I sit here crying my eyes out….I can hardly see my stupid computer screen.

DAMN IT…….why does this hurt so much? I am being sincere when I say that I owe every single person on this site an apology that I EVER thought that I was above emotion as far as this whole hoax was concerned, and 'rolled my eyes' when someone got a little too mellowdramatic……..look at me now…..My heart is……..BROKEN…..and I can't seem to get my tears to stop…..

I'm sorry if this doesn't make sense…


I feel the same way. It seems worse then when they announced that he was dead on the 25th. Because I found this site shortly after he died and it comforted me and made me think that he wasn't. And I trully believed it.

I have been crying most of the day. So, I understand how you feel. I just can't believe that our beloved Michael is gone and so young.

 I can remember being in my bedroom when I was a teenager and listening to Beat It, and Thriller etc… I can see myself dancing and singing along. Later I got married and had kids, and stopped listening to him. Stopped buying his CD's. And now I feel this tremendous amount of guilt, and sorrow. Almost as if, it's all my fault. If only I had continued to buy his music and support him more. If only I had wrote one letter to help him. I know he probably would have never looked at the letter. But at least I would feel better, because I tried. That is crazy I know. I hope I'm not the only one that feels this way. If I am, then I do need to go to an institution.


I'm going to miss My Michael so much. I'm sorry for what everyone did to you, and I wished I could have been there for you. Thank you for entertaining us all these years and now you may rest….I know he wont see this, but it makes me feel better.


7:46 pm
August 3, 2009


tis_ruthy

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England

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because as everyone in the media has said …….doctor death killed him… and the media are always so right ………so you cant tell me Michaels family would not be showing some kind of anger and resentment? Unless he died of natural causes, nothing to do with dr phibes

7:47 pm
August 3, 2009


shyone

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Well! Because the Life Insurance policy has been paid out doesn't sway me into believing otherwise a bit. Katherine said sometime today when she was leaving the court that she didn't want her son to have died of natural causes. She said he was too young for that. How does she know that he died of natural causes if that's true. The toxicology report has been postponed indefinitely. Does the Jackson Family know something that we don't? More than likely. Don't throw in the towel yet. Step back and breathe! I cried a couple of nights ago myself. I had to step back and breathe. Everything is so confusing right now. How can anyone of assume he died? Just Keep the Faith!

7:47 pm
August 3, 2009


mjfan

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SeeingClues said:

mjfan said:

tis_ruthy said:

Im no legal expert but they pay out death insurance when  the cause of death still is yet to be known??


Good catch.  I wonder about that too.  I was pretty sure that they had to have the cause of death figured out before life insurance would pay out.  I was also pretty sure that cause of death hasn't been determined mainly because there could be a manslaughter case and that is something that would have to be proven in a court of law.  I could be wrong here and if I am, someone correct me, but when someone dies under mysterious circumstances and there is an ongoing investigation and possible criminal charges… then is it normal for an insurance company to pay out life insurance BEFORE those court proceedings?

Insurance companies are pretty thorough.  This just seems a little off to me.  Thoughts?


remember, there was a private autopsy…the family isn't required to release the results to the public (i don't think but perhaps someone on this site who is a lawyer can confirm)…they could have released them privately to the insurance company.  


That's true, but there is an ongoing criminal investigation. It seems a little weird that life insurance would pay out before that.  But maybe they would.  I don't know.

7:50 pm
August 3, 2009


fegemermaid

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I am sitting in my room, my husband is at work, my son woke up and came in here with a look of horror on his face….he has only seen me cry maybe..twice. I had to go in the bathroom so he wouldn't see…..

I am just honestly taken aback by my reaction….I just din't expect this……

“More persons, on the whole, are humbugged by believing in nothing, than by believing too much”~P.T. BARNUM~ “…they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables” (II Timothy 4:4).

7:52 pm
August 3, 2009


mjfan

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For those who now believe MJ died, this might comfort you.  I'm not saying I believe it's true, but it may be comforting to you nonetheless:


http://cherokeebillie.wordpres…..l-jackson/

7:54 pm
August 3, 2009


tis_ruthy

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England

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melluvsmike25 said:

fegemermaid said:

I guess it is finally true…..I never thought that it would be confirmed. The LIFE INSURANCE POLICY HASBEEN CLAIMED…..Tenderoni said it all in her post I guess.

I feel so ridiculous…. I came to this site with such a superior attitude….everone at work told me how CRAZY I was, how STUPID I was,

I was NOT some crazed fan, sure I love Michael, his humanitarianism touched me more then ANYTHING….but I was here because I just KNEW that he was alive……now I sit here crying my eyes out….I can hardly see my stupid computer screen.

DAMN IT…….why does this hurt so much? I am being sincere when I say that I owe every single person on this site an apology that I EVER thought that I was above emotion as far as this whole hoax was concerned, and 'rolled my eyes' when someone got a little too mellowdramatic……..look at me now…..My heart is……..BROKEN…..and I can't seem to get my tears to stop…..

I'm sorry if this doesn't make sense…


I feel the same way. It seems worse then when they announced that he was dead on the 25th. Because I found this site shortly after he died and it comforted me and made me think that he wasn't. And I trully believed it.

I have been crying most of the day. So, I understand how you feel. I just can't believe that our beloved Michael is gone and so young.

 I can remember being in my bedroom when I was a teenager and listening to Beat It, and Thriller etc… I can see myself dancing and singing along. Later I got married and had kids, and stopped listening to him. Stopped buying his CD's. And now I feel this tremendous amount of guilt, and sorrow. Almost as if, it's all my fault. If only I had continued to buy his music and support him more. If only I had wrote one letter to help him. I know he probably would have never looked at the letter. But at least I would feel better, because I tried. That is crazy I know. I hope I'm not the only one that feels this way. If I am, then I do need to go to an institution.


I'm going to miss My Michael so much. I'm sorry for what everyone did to you, and I wished I could have been there for you. Thank you for entertaining us all these years and now you may rest….I know he wont see this, but it makes me feel better.



Oh dear, your'e going to start me crying next!  If he did die, I just feel that dying at the hands of some screwed up money grabbing doctor is so sad. Part of me screams this is all wrong. He was an intelligent man. I know insomnia is awful, but to risk the chance of dying every night by using diprivan seems beyond my comprehension. Its like a gross caricature of  an addiction to prescription drugs.

7:58 pm
August 3, 2009


SkEpTiCaL

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“I guess it is finally true…..I never thought that it would be confirmed. The LIFE INSURANCE POLICY HASBEEN CLAIMED” – FegeMermaid

Don't give up hope. Look at the source where it came from. The media, those that have been proven to lie continually over and over again.

“I try to keep an open mind, but not so open that my brains fall out.” – Harold T. Stone

7:59 pm
August 3, 2009


Tenderoni

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What Katherine was saying was that it WASN'T of natural causes.  Believe me, the family knows the results of BOTH autopsies.  The only reason why WE don't know is because the coroner is putting the pieces together of who did what.  What has been postponed is the PUBLIC knowing.


And, insurance WOULD pay out during a criminal investigation.

8:06 pm
August 3, 2009


You Are Not Alone

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Never loose hope !!!1

MJ IS TOOO SEXY !!!!

8:07 pm
August 3, 2009


mjfan

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Tenderoni said:

What Katherine was saying was that it WASN'T of natural causes.  Believe me, the family knows the results of BOTH autopsies.  The only reason why WE don't know is because the coroner is putting the pieces together of who did what.  What has been postponed is the PUBLIC knowing.


And, insurance WOULD pay out during a criminal investigation.


Okay, thanks! I didn't know if they would pay out before or after.

8:11 pm
August 3, 2009


tis_ruthy

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England

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So katherine is the truth teller???? She denies any abuse …yeh marvellous joe jackson who calls his child fat nose and continuously puts him down…words from Michael's mouth, not the media…….shes just keeping all the rumours at bay, she won't tell the truth, believe you me!

8:11 pm
August 3, 2009


fegemermaid

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Oh MJ Fan…I know that you meant to comfort..but I think I feel worse.. I guess I needto cry and let i ou and let it go…

I am crying for so many different reasons right now….his family, his children the loss of a man that was so amazing…the loss to the future generatons who will miss out on so much….I know we still have his music and his legacy…..but right now it just hurts….

this world is so hard….so cruel….so heartless…our society is beyond selfish most of the time….and Michael was….a visionary…a true kind soul that we had for such a short time, and we took him for granted,  so many wrongs were done to him, and he was everything that human beings are supposed to be to each other, no he was not perfect, but he was close….

I guess I did not realize how much I had actually invested in this emotionally, I wanted to think that I was just trying to solve the puzzle….He was not my father, or son, or brother, or uncle, I feel almost ashamed of my sadness when I think of his family, what they must be goin thru, and for me to be crying real tears over someone that I didn't know, have never met, and that truely didn't affect my life on a day to day basis is just very……surprising…..

Thank You EVERONE for responding to my post….it is a measure of comfort to know that I am not the only one hurting right now

“More persons, on the whole, are humbugged by believing in nothing, than by believing too much”~P.T. BARNUM~ “…they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables” (II Timothy 4:4).

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