Michael Jackson Hoax Death

Antigone said:

Would an insurance pay as long as the cause of death isn't fixed?? It still could turn out a suicide, as long as it's not proved?

That's a good point.

I'm led to believe the insurance company would certainly know the cause of death. They don't compensate people blindly without some sort of confirmation.

For all we know, a real and SIGNED copy of the death certificate was indeed submitted to the insurance company, and no one knew the wiser.

See. Some people have this idea that Michael will be returning to put on this big show and shock the world. Unfortunately, I don't believe this. Michael is gone, and won't be returning to the life that he had. So, you wanted to know is this the end? This is the end of the Michael that we know, But no. I don't believe that Michael is dead.

souza81 said:

Antigone said:

Would an insurance pay as long as the cause of death isn't fixed?? It still could turn out a suicide, as long as it's not proved?

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I agree, if the payment has really been done, the hoax is over.

But since this article was offline again in seconds + it's media + I have never seen an insurance company paying that easy and fast without COD, I'm still not buying it.

Ok.. lets say that indeed that insurance was paid out and this might be the end of the hoax, but I say this: why dont we wait until October 30. How do we know that this isnt a strategy to fool us? Keep in mind that we dont have a reliable source nor prooves that this really happend. We dont have anything to lose but to win. We must keep our faith and wait. If on October 30 nothing will going to happend, I will think too that Michael is indeed dead. But until then, I'm not gonna buy the media BS.

Look at the Estate Court Case… I think that there are TOO many journalists for a Custody Hearing. They didnt bother on finding out about Murray but they are at the Court. For me.. this isnt add up.

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Ok.. lets say that indeed that insurance was paid out and this might be the end of the hoax, but I say this: why dont we wait until October 30. How do we know that this isnt a strategy to fool us? Keep in mind that we dont have a reliable source nor prooves that this really happend. We dont have anything to lose but to win. We must keep our faith and wait. If on October 30 nothing will going to happend, I will think too that Michael is indeed dead. But until then, I'm not gonna buy the media BS.

Look at the Estate Court Case… I think that there are TOO many journalists for a Custody Hearing. They didnt bother on finding out about Murray but they are at the Court. For me.. this isnt add up.

I absolutely agree with you….

some reports in shady rags are no proof for me..

and who will proof that this is not part of the script….

BE PATIENT….

peggy99 said:

Hi Jewell, I was stating what actually happens in this country (UK) I'm not too familar with US Law but here in the UK, no Insurance Co. would pay out if the person was murdered.  That is what I meant when I referred to the death certificate.

All that aside, it would now seem like our dream is over.

yes, a life insurance policy will pay if it is murder,

and also for suicide, although there is usually a 2 year clause…

meaning you can't kill yourself within the first 2 years of the policy or they wont pay….

not that i think that this is suicide, no way…. i was just stating the clause.

mir26 said:

J.J_loves_MJ said:

souza81 said:

Antigone said:

Would an insurance pay as long as the cause of death isn't fixed?? It still could turn out a suicide, as long as it's not proved?

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I agree, if the payment has really been done, the hoax is over.

But since this article was offline again in seconds + it's media + I have never seen an insurance company paying that easy and fast without COD, I'm still not buying it.

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Ok.. lets say that indeed that insurance was paid out and this might be the end of the hoax, but I say this: why dont we wait until October 30. How do we know that this isnt a strategy to fool us? Keep in mind that we dont have a reliable source nor prooves that this really happend. We dont have anything to lose but to win. We must keep our faith and wait. If on October 30 nothing will going to happend, I will think too that Michael is indeed dead. But until then, I'm not gonna buy the media BS.

Look at the Estate Court Case… I think that there are TOO many journalists for a Custody Hearing. They didnt bother on finding out about Murray but they are at the Court. For me.. this isnt add up.

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i agree just found this written by a lawyer and this sounds fair to me

If MJ was too frail or ill to perform in London, then it's scary to think that life insurance might have made him more valuable dead than alive.

And, I'm also wondering that if the nasty rumors are true, that MJ was so ill and so frail that he could not have performed in London, then what impact those life insurance policies have upon a motive in his death. If there are significant policies out there, MJ may have been worth more death than alive and someone should be investigating this concern.

Complications: suicide (and there's been talk of that) would exempt the payout by the life insurance carrier — unless enough time had passed since the policies had been created (for example, a policy may pay provide benefits on a suicide if the policy has been in effect for over 2 years at the time of death). And, if the insurance carrier found that the beneficiary contributed the death, then they would not pay out benefits.

Where are the insurance carriers' teams of investigators?

So, why aren't we hearing about this life insurance policies? And, why aren't we hearing about the investigators for the insurance companies being involved in the current investigation? Are they being that subtle, or are there no policies?

If MJ was a junk like people say,they wouldent pay out because he did it himself.

so they are holding something behind or its all BS

Thank you, gaining back hope there. You're absolutely right.

And as far as I know, also in Holland an insurance company would not pay if there is still a murder investigation running.

http://innthebasement.com/inde…..insurance/

http://www.thelondonnews.net/s…..ory/519370

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cul…..rance.html

Here are some links to articles about the life insurance policy. I find is suspicious that 2 weeks ago this LI policy was a topic of discussion and now it has miraculously been paid. Most LI companies are not going to pay if there is a question about the death. Regardless of the temp DC. Suicide and murder are still possible causes of death and it doesnt pay out for suicide.

Maybe that aide purposely did not pay the premiums so that in the long run, not as much money would have been gained illegaly…

i felt like i lost all hope, but truth be told, isn't it a bit too fast to be getting life insurance payment?? come on, we all know how insurance companies are, they drag everything on, i'm just thinking how long it always takes just to get my medical insurance company to send me my reimbursmnt on services i paid upfront, it takes way longet than a month, and that's pennies compared to life insurance payout. they would want to make sure that there isn't any clause in there that they can find that could get them out of paying. so they would want to look at it from all different angles to see if indeed they need to pay, why would they rush? just a little hope here that maybe it's not true…

Post edited 2:32 am – August 4, 2009 by jewell

Most life insurance policies pay within 2-4 weeks of death…

some take up to 90 days…

it depends on how fast the estate sends the death certificate to the insurance companies.

no news on uk agencies as yet

mir26 said:

ballongiraf said:

which news sites are running this story?

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only one that i could find and thats msnbc cant find any other site to confirm,not CNN and our favourite TMZ lol

OK. Do we have an actual court filing/something that undoubtedly prooves that this was filed? (and i dont think a mention in a msbc article qualifies as undoubtedly)

ballongiraf said:

mir26 said:

ballongiraf said:

which news sites are running this story?

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only one that i could find and thats msnbc cant find any other site to confirm,not CNN and our favourite TMZ lol

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OK. Do we have an actual court filing/something that undoubtedly prooves that this was filed? (and i dont think a mention in a msbc article qualifies as undoubtedly)

not that I can find,thats why I am doubting this very much and i dont think it is true,not to much evidence on this one

Post edited 2:56 am – August 4, 2009 by jewell

souza81 said:

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 BUT as the article has changed in seconds and the source is again unreliable

Maybe it was something like “OH, you idiot, that was the article for 3. SEPTEMBER, not August! Delete it!” …

Anyway – it made it on several German newspapers, I read two articles two hours ago. They are all gone now.

Annieisnotokey said:

That's all I'm saying.

That's enough!