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8:08 am August 3, 2009
| SeeingClues
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With the news today of MJ's life insurance being paid out, is there any point of going on here? I welcome a good valid argument that keeps the hoax theory alive, but I think I've lost hope now.
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8:12 am August 3, 2009
| pinkrose35
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I am not sure. I don't know that a life insurance can be paid out without knowing the cause of death. It is possible that they do know what the cause is and just isn't telling us, but this has been big news for weeks, I would think if they knew that they would tell us, considering that they know everybody is wondering. It was said at the end of the week that everything was delayed and today they are filing his life insurance. Kind of makes you wonder what happened over the weekend. But I honestly don't yet. I don't think they would bother going through all of this if he wasn't dead.
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8:13 am August 3, 2009
| J.J_loves_MJ
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SeeingClues said:
With the news today of MJ's life insurance being paid out, is there any point of going on here? I welcome a good valid argument that keeps the hoax theory alive, but I think I've lost hope now.
Even if the insurance was paid out there are a lot of things that must be done to close Michael case and declare him OFFICIALY dead. There are a lot of documents that arrent legally signed and the police didnt make an official statement. So.. this is not the end.
BTW: where did you hear about the insurance? From the media? please! Media is a BS eater since we all born.
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8:16 am August 3, 2009
| jewell
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32…..ent-music/
yes, it is now hitting all the major news sources…
these are private insurance companies that appear to be life insurance policies….
they will pay with a death certificate, no cause of death is needed, because it states deferred on the DC….
so according to all officials and agencies he is officially dead.
If this payout is true, and appears that it is court records…
then this hoax now turns illegal…. sigh…. not what i was hoping for.
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8:17 am August 3, 2009
| hellojavi
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oh my,
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“Beat me, hate me
You can never break me – MJ “
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8:18 am August 3, 2009
| hotcakes
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8:19 am August 3, 2009
| peggy99
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Who is saying the Insurance has been paid out? I have worked for legal practices for over 25 years and I know for a fact that Insurance monies would not be paid out without a valid Autopsy Report and a valid signed Death Certificate. I have worked on straight forward deaths where people have died of obvious causes (where no autopsy was necessary) and the insurance has taken many months to be paid out so I find this highly suspect.
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8:20 am August 3, 2009
| mir26
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guys cool down,it can still mean he is alive,but he can never come back,but he can still be alive somewhere,I am not worried yet lol
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dont believe everything you see or read |
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8:21 am August 3, 2009
| mir26
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peggy99 said:
Who is saying the Insurance has been paid out? I have worked for legal practices for over 25 years and I know for a fact that Insurance monies would not be paid out without a valid Autopsy Report and a valid signed Death Certificate. I have worked on straight forward deaths where people have died of obvious causes (where no autopsy was necessary) and the insurance has taken many months to be paid out so I find this highly suspect.
excatually everyone ever think this all could be fake too
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dont believe everything you see or read |
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8:21 am August 3, 2009
| ballongiraf
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peggy99 said:
Who is saying the Insurance has been paid out? I have worked for legal practices for over 25 years and I know for a fact that Insurance monies would not be paid out without a valid Autopsy Report and a valid signed Death Certificate. I have worked on straight forward deaths where people have died of obvious causes (where no autopsy was necessary) and the insurance has taken many months to be paid out so I find this highly suspect.
but… it doesnt say that an insurance company has paid the life insurance – it says the money comes from MJ's estate. If this is indeed a hoax, then is it illegal to give the kids money from MJ's estate?
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8:23 am August 3, 2009
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If the children require money for their care and support, then it is possible for the estate to pay out some of the money for this reason, even before the estate is settled.
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8:27 am August 3, 2009
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this site was all I had to hold onto my hope of Michael being alive…I wanna scream at alll of those who practically tortured Michael all his life that this is what they fuckin did!!!!! why can't there be more people like Michael ? what happened to morals and helping one another and saying thank yous???
I really wish that this articel is not true and rather another stunt the media has been giving us ever since June 25th..
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8:27 am August 3, 2009
| jewell
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peggy99 said:
Who is saying the Insurance has been paid out? I have worked for legal practices for over 25 years and I know for a fact that Insurance monies would not be paid out without a valid Autopsy Report and a valid signed Death Certificate. I have worked on straight forward deaths where people have died of obvious causes (where no autopsy was necessary) and the insurance has taken many months to be paid out so I find this highly suspect.
Peggy, please reference the death certificate thread…
the dc is signed by the coroner and the DHS so it is a complete and valid dc with cause of death as deferred.
the insurance co. will pay on a valid temporary dc…
no autopsy report is needed….most life insurance policies pay regardless of cause of death.
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To find the truth…
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Please don’t let that
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8:27 am August 3, 2009
| velvetsilvergirl
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SeeingClues said:
With the news today of MJ's life insurance being paid out, is there any point of going on here? I welcome a good valid argument that keeps the hoax theory alive, but I think I've lost hope now.
I must admit that this is a bummer but not neccessarily it. Remember, if this a hoax MJ would have expected all this to happen. Regular wheels have to turn. And truly, we've been warned and told so many times not to beleive the media. They plant information to feed our hungry bellies all the time. This could be set up to get the exact kind of reaction you had, to put a damper on everyone who is questioning this.
I had a dream last night that Michael and I were sitting on a bench in a very crowded place, watching people walk by and listening to their conversations, we said a bunch of things I dont remember but I know he said 'dont beleive everything you hear'. So I wont, I will just trust my instincts.
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8:30 am August 3, 2009
| ibelieveinmj
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I believe it said that MJ's estate has recieved the insurance payout, in turn that is where the money will be provided from to Katherine and the kids.
The payout if in fact true, has been paid to the estate which is held in trust and released accordingly.
But coming from the media, credible sources or not I still think it's BS! I will not lose all hope yet!! Could be another story fed to the media to make this whole thing more believeable!!
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8:31 am August 3, 2009
| jewell
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Post edited 1:50 am – August 4, 2009 by jewell
ballongiraf said:
peggy99 said:
Who is saying the Insurance has been paid out? I have worked for legal practices for over 25 years and I know for a fact that Insurance monies would not be paid out without a valid Autopsy Report and a valid signed Death Certificate. I have worked on straight forward deaths where people have died of obvious causes (where no autopsy was necessary) and the insurance has taken many months to be paid out so I find this highly suspect.
but… it doesnt say that an insurance company has paid the life insurance – it says the money comes from MJ's estate. If this is indeed a hoax, then is it illegal to give the kids money from MJ's estate?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32…..ent-music/
this article says “life insurance proceeds” that means from a life insurance company,
the insurance will pay the estate and then the estate will pay katherine and the kids
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To find the truth…
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Please don’t let that
upset you! |
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8:31 am August 3, 2009
| shirley-grace
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maybe the Ins. Comp. is in on the hoax also
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8:32 am August 3, 2009
| Antigone
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Would an insurance pay as long as the cause of death isn't fixed?? It still could turn out a suicide, as long as it's not proved?
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For there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.
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8:32 am August 3, 2009
| jewell
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shirley-grace said:
maybe the Ins. Comp. is in on the hoax also
now, that would be very illegal! LOL!
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To find the truth…
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Please don’t let that
upset you! |
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8:34 am August 3, 2009
| shirley-grace
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it was a weired policy anyways
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8:34 am August 3, 2009
| mir26
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well thats the only site i can find this story on its not on the reliable sites that i know,so for now I will call BS lol
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8:38 am August 3, 2009
| jewell
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shirley-grace said:
it was a weired policy anyways
no, you are thinking about the AEG policy, and that does seem wierd…
This is his Personal life insurance policy….
my dad had 3 life insurance policies and he didn't have money like mj….
so there may be more to payout soon.
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To find the truth…
I like to play
Devil’s Advocate…
Please don’t let that
upset you! |
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8:39 am August 3, 2009
| souza81
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jewell said:
shirley-grace said:
maybe the Ins. Comp. is in on the hoax also
now, that would be very illegal! LOL!
Yes, I agree. If the payment really has been done, this hoax is over form me. BUT as the article has changed in seconds and the source is again unreliable + the fact that I have never seen an insurance company paying that fast and easy without an official COD, I'm still where I were an hour ago.
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He looked me deep in the eyes
He’s touchin’ me so to start
He says there’s no turnin’ back
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8:41 am August 3, 2009
| jewell
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souza81 said:
jewell said:
shirley-grace said:
maybe the Ins. Comp. is in on the hoax also
now, that would be very illegal! LOL!
Yes, I agree. If the payment really has been done, this hoax is over form me. BUT as the article has changed in seconds and the source is again unreliable + the fact that I have never seen an insurance company paying that fast and easy without an official COD, I'm still where I were an hour ago.
it is now hitting all the major new sources and is from the associated press….which is Very reliable!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32…..ent-music/
i may be done too… sigh
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To find the truth…
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Please don’t let that
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8:42 am August 3, 2009
| souza81
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Post edited 1:46 am – August 4, 2009 by souza81
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He looked me deep in the eyes
He’s touchin’ me so to start
He says there’s no turnin’ back
He trapped me into his heart! |
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8:43 am August 3, 2009
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I don't believe …. this insurance policy thing… I trust Michael and nobody else.
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LOOK WITH YOUR HEART… |
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8:43 am August 3, 2009
| SILVANA
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I don't believe …. this insurance policy thing… I trust Michael and nobody else.
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LOOK WITH YOUR HEART… |
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8:44 am August 3, 2009
| ilprincipe
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and what about the possibility that Mj maybe had a deal with this insurance…
until oct. they pay sth. out…
and after his “resurrection” they get relly well paid for it….
This deal has not to be official..so nobody knows…
and btw..nobody knows the name of the insurance and any sums..
about the concert we all know it was Lloyd Insurance..
Money talks..
bullshit walks -this was posted by some smart user here, and i agree-
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8:45 am August 3, 2009
| shirley-grace
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Maby that's why they went ot for dinner yesterday?
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8:47 am August 3, 2009
| velvetsilvergirl
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souza81 said:
Antigone said:
Would an insurance pay as long as the cause of death isn't fixed?? It still could turn out a suicide, as long as it's not proved?
I agree, if the payment has really been done, the hoax is over.
But since this article was offline again in seconds + it's media + I have never seen an insurance company paying that easy and fast without COD, I'm still not buying it.
I'm sure I saw in an interview somewhere, maybe CNN, where they said in MJ's case a life insurance policy would be pointless becasue his new worth was so high. Did anyone see that?
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