souza81 said:
So, here is my theory and the reason why I asked you guys about non-postponed tickets for July (or even the rest of 2009).
It´s quite a long story, because I will also post all my findings and extra comment to back/up my theory. English is not my first language and I had to translate my notes from Dutch to English, so i I make any mistakes, please don´t shoot me, but teach me 
. And if something isn't clear, please ask.
First of all, I want to say that I'm still not sure there is a hoax, I just like the thought of it and the story turnes out to be too weird. He might be dead for real IMO, but in that case I think Arnold the Terminator should fire the paramedics, the coroner's office employees and the whole bunch of the LAPD for not doing their job right!
The theory:
I remember seeing an interview with MJ saying he wanted to make a movie. As we all know, MJ is a perfectionist and would'n't make just a normal movie, he would make it big and new. Reality soaps are hot, why not make an international reality movie where everybody could play a role in? Also a perfect way for him to make a statement on the behaviour of the media and the dangers on drugs/meds.
July 21, 2009 there was the following article:
Filmproducer Sony will be releasing a movie in cooperation with AEG Live about the deceased popstar Michael Jackson. (what else will be in that movie?) (we now know it's October 30)
Many studio's waited in line to produce it, but Sony Pictures won by paying a big amount of money.
Kenny Ortega, the director of 'High School Musical', will be the producer. Kenny also filmed all of the rehearsals and did the choreografy of the 'This Is It' tour in London. This footage will also be in the movie.
The film about Michael is supposed to be in theaters by the end of this year
Movie? In theaters? Sony (MJ was still having a contract with Sony)???
That's when I thought of my theory, and I think it would explain everything. Here is the list I have so far with all the things that IMO don't add up. I know there is more, but I deleted the things that could also be explained otherwise, or things like: “he's killed by the Illuminati” or “He is with Elvis”, because I really don't believe in that.
Prior to MJ's death:
January 2009: The Enquirer gives MJ 6 months to live.
This is where the movie starts. People need to think he's ill and unfit.
March 5th 2009: MJ's press conference at the O2 – London aanouncing the This is it – Tour for July.
Wasn't he supposed to be very ill? After 8 years MJ will have a major comeback, why on stage? Why not release an album, and than arrange a tour. He also was supposed to tour with the Jacksons, so the new tour didn't make sence. This announcement was only to get him back in the spotlights, so everyone would follow him on this, certainly since everybody thinks he's that ill he could drop dead any minute. Otherwise the media would miss too many details. Using a double makes sence, because people would think he's too ill to come himself. That's why the O2 guy had such strange manners, we needed to think he wasn't real. So IMO it could also be MJ himself, pretending to be a double… (you're still following me?)
Instead of 10 concerts, there will be 50!!
WTF! He couldn't do 50 concerts?!! They already think he couldn't do 10! And again, he's all over the news.
March 14, 2009: Examiner.com reports that MJ recently recorded 100 songs his kids will inherit. They could only be released after MJ died.
What a coincidence!! He is that ill that he is talking about his inheritance already! How could the guy ever go on stage?
May 20, 2009: The auditions for the dancers of the This is It tour are finished.
The tour was supposed to start on July 8/ July 13. 6 weeks seems to be a bit short to prepare such a big show with that many dance steps. Or do they have enough time? I have searched for people who had tickets for July, havent found anyone yet, besides people who had tickets for the concert that was postponed to March 2010… Maybe there weren't any tickets for July? Maybe no tickets at all for 2009?
June 3, 2009: Michael Jackson says he didn't know he had to do 50 concerts instead of 10. He says he's not fit enough for it.
How the hell is it possible that the whole world knows about the 50 gigs, and he himself didn't? It's just feeding the theory that he is unable to perform and not even able to decide for himself. Again! MJ in the news.
The day MJ 'died'?:
June 25, 2009: In the early morning there is a close-down at LAX. Mystery man leaves with mystery plane. Airport employees are being told to ignore the plane.
Around midday Dr. Murry finds MJ in bed/ sees MJ collapse in bedroom/ in livingroom with/without Prince I. However, he tries to resuscitate him ON THE BED, every doctor (and almost everyone else on this planet earth) knows you have to do CPR on a flat and hard surface. Finally he waits 45 minutes with calling 911, because he didn't know the address??? He came there by car, driving himself, multiple times a week for a while, and he didnt know the address? Total time for MJ without oxygen: 45 minutes in the house, 10 minutes before the ambulance arrived, 30 minutes in the house with the paramedicsl, 10 minutes on the way to the hospital and 1 hour in the hospital. A total of about 2.5 hours. Then they finally pronounce him dead…. When having a cardic arrest the chances of the patient will reduce by 10% every minute…. What were they trying to bring back to life? A plant?
The 911-call: MJ's bodyguard “Tippy” Alverez is our 911-caller. He talked to the police 1 time and vanished into thin air. His wife doesn't know when he will be coming back.Why did the 911-guy answering the phone hang up before the paramedics arrived? That's not standard procedure.
I bet Alvarez's with MJ, after all, he is his bodyguard and if MJ's really alive and kicking, he would need his bodyguard.
Is the 911-call real? It could be a fake. Who tells us the audio really came from the 911? Maybe they have recorded it themselves.
But then why isn't someone from 911 speaking out it was a fake? I think because they knew. They know about the project and that's why they keep their mouth shut. Maybe people have been paid, but I don't think so. If you could be a part of this big thing, would you talk? I wouldn't!
The Ambulance:Why leaving the property backwards? Why not make a turn on the round about in front of the house? He had 30 minutes to turn it. I know why! Otherwise people would have asked why they were driving so slow, with MJ in the back without a heartbeat? Now they coul drive slowly (who would have thought about the round about if you don't know how the house looked like?) so the guy had time enough to make his famous picture.
Rumour has it that MJ was dead before they got him into the ambulance. That would make sence because of the time that he was out of oxigen and heartbeat already. But when you look at the (1 and only (or was it 2 ?) ambulance picture, MJ looks quite alive. He's frowning, his vain on his forehead is popping up (seems difficult to me when the heart isn't pumping your blood anymore), he has a good colour (if he was really out of oxigen for almost an hour, he certainly would have turned grey/blue). He also looks too young (around mid-30's). This picture could have been an old one (MJ had stunts in the past with an ambulance) and it could be a doll. Anyway, IMO: it's not MJ. BUT we need to believe it's him, that's why there IS a picture. The guy making it was a good friend of MJ, maybe he made the picture before, with the red car in the window reflecting on purpose. They could have planted the red car on thee 25th, so the picture would look real. They can say now “ofcourse the picture is real, look at the red car in the reflection! If you look at our video, that we also made, you can clearly see the red car. (We haven't filmed it very steady ofcourse, otherwise you guys would have seen that the ambulance turned the other way, so the car wasn't anywhere near the window!)”
And the paramedic, WTF is he doing??? CPR an his collarbone? I think they are all actors and the ambulance is MJ's. I remember him having one.
And who were following in the black SUV's? Bodyguards ofcourse, to stand around the body when it's taken out of the ambulance at the hospital, so CNN could'nt make a photo. Otherwise maybe we would have seen it wasn't MJ.
The hospital: We don't know much about the hospital. We haven't seen any doctors speaking about it, why are they trying to bring back a guy that has been dead for about 30 minutes minimum? Nobody of UCLA talked to the press, not a word. Why not? Because they haven't sen anything. The dept. was closed before he arrived, only a few people were allowed to get in. Why? Because only few people knew about the project.
Then there is the ride/flight to the morgue. By helicopter, why that? Because it ain't weird for a helicopter to fly with open doors. A coroners van with the doors open should be looking a lot stranger, don't you think? They wanted us to see the body. Otherwise CNN wouldn't film and they would have missed a big part of the movie.
The 'moving' body didn't move itself, it was lifted to get it on a small plank to get it out of the heli. It looks like it's lifted by 1 guy with one hand. MJ isn't very heavy, but I think t's quite hard to lift a dead body that weighs almost 60 kilo's. When they gat it out of the helicopter into the van, they are lifting it again with 1 hand by the neck, and drop it on the floor. That's not very proffessional? No, they're not professionals! They are actors and haven't got a clue how to handle a dead body! One of the guys didn't even wear gloves. That's a bit strange if you are a professional, because you would know that there is a risk of leaking fluids from the body.
The autopsy/toxic's rapport and Death certificate: 1st autopy: no result back yet, just rumours spread by the media. 2nd autopsy: the same story. Toxic's rapport: another mystery. Death certificate: not valid, a copy and not signed. Everyone could have made it. Ed Winter is the only one that made a statement from the coroner's office. I think they were informed about the project, same with the LAPD. If you keep delaying and keep saying “I cannot comment on that”, there's also nothing to lie about. Just a few words for one of the biggest movies ever made. We're investigating the death of Mr. Jackson could also mean: “We're investigating if Mr. Jackson actually did die.” As long as you keep delaying, the focus will be on the case and the story can continue.
The LAPD: didn't seal the scene directly, but waited 4 days. In the meanwhile, everybody could get stuff in and out of the house. Also when it would become a “murder investigation”, there will be no case against the doctor, because the evidence is unreliable, it could have been planted.
The Memorial: Wow what a circus. No tears, no close friends (maybe they are with him, as we know that Liz was packing at the moment she heard the news), a lot of acting, clues as we already dicussed in other topics, kids bored, everyone on stage looking up to a point at the other side of the centre (Michael's directing room?), a closed casket because MJ's face would have been too damaged from the CPR, while Jermaine said that Michael looked like Michael in the hospital after he died. And then there is (IMO) a live performance of our beloved King of Pop at the end of Will you be there. WITH a small mistake in the text, so the real MJ-fans would notice. Because that's what they want obviously. Why was this website online that fast? The first 2 days I really thought he was dead. Now there is this site where MJ-fans can talk to eachother, figuring out the clues that we were given. Keeping the movie running together with the media. It's a month since he died tomorrow, and still he hasn't been buried. Why not? Because they want us to keep talking about it!
The body: Is missing! It's a month since he died, but no burial yet! The media says he was full of needle marks on the autopy table, bald, missing his nose! Come on, what a BS!Statement of the coroner's office: nothing of that info is from this office. No, they don't have a body, so also no info. Again: no lies, just not telling the whole story.
People close to MJ say he didn't use drugs, then suddenly they say he was. Again: keeping the story alive. His family claims they don't know where the body is. I think they are telling the truth, because MJ is hiding until he can come back.
The Family: La Toya is bitchy as ever, Jermaine has experience with making a movie, he already made one about Michael's early days, this would be a great sequel. Joe can only talk about his new label. He wants to release the MJ Blu-rays. All the brothers and sisters and the parents tell different stories. Sure, that's to feed us. We are a part of the movie, we are the investigators. Michael wants his fans to play a role too.
The kids: Were introduced about a week prior to MJ's death, why?? He wanted them to wear masks for 13 years? Why now expose them to the press? Because if he didn't show them first, maybe we wouldn't believe they were really his kids. And where are the kids going? To grandma? To Debbie? To Arnold? To Janet? To Jermaine? No, not a good idea, they are all in the spotlights. Let's think: Yeah! Rebbie ofcourse! I didn't even knew she excisted, so that's a perfect place for the kids NOT to be (IMO: they are with Michael). The custody case was delayed, than Debbie made a deal with Katherine? Why? Because when she was going to get annoying, they had to tell her that there was nothing to worry about, because Michael would still raise them himself, they had to tell her about the project.
Dr. Conrad Murray: Is the prime suspect of the murder investigation, and yet can leave state? The police will wait 4 weeks before they raid his clinic, google dr. Murray and you'll find him twice, but sometimes he is born in 1953, sometimes in 1958. They screwed up while they created him. If you search for pictures of him, you'll only find 1. Sometimes a close-up from the head, sometimes the whole guy, but always the same picture. How is it possible that TMZ.com has all the news, stalkes everyone that has something to do with it, are having a live broadcast from the raid, but haven't been able to get the guy on camera?? That's quite strange IMO! I think Dr. Murray is a non-excisting person. The photo could have been created (look at the furniture, looks a little cheap for a well-paid doctor), maybe it's even MJ in one of his diguises.
The Media: TMZ.com seems to know everything first. Why? I think they are using TMZ. Maybe LaToya or one of the others is leaking information to them. I would believe them too, if I were TMZ, because it would be first-hand info. Maybe MJ wants his revenge on the gossip-site, letting them made a fool of themselves.
Or they are being paid to release info about MJ and there in on this.
Why isn't the media questioning his death? Why would they if the family is telling them MJ's dead? Why make a fool of yourself? That's why CNN or any other reliable newssite isn't questioning it. They also don't get the info that TMZ gets, so they could think TMZ is making everything up, like they mostly do. So no risk there.
AEG Live/footage: They claim to have over 100 hours of HD footage. Now I know that someone was filming the Jackson family too in 2009, a sort of a reality-soap, was that AEG too? Probably you will see the prepartions on this hoax on that footage. They say they will release a movie about Michael Jackson, not just the rehearsals, so what else? I think we will know on the 30th of October.
Keep in mind:
- There is no law-breaking yet, he's not officially dead and there s no insurance money claimed.
- The news about Elvis' Death possibly being a hoax was on June 25, 1979, exactly 30 years prior to the 'Death' of MJ
- MJ's 7's:
– Michael Jackson signed his will on 7/7/02.
– Michael Jackson's memorial was on 7/7/09 … exactly 7 years after the will was signed.
– Michael Jackson's two biggest hits — “Black & White” and “Billie Jean” — were each #1 for 7 weeks.
– Michael Jackson's three biggest albums — “Thriller,” “Bad” and “Dangerous” — each produced 7 top 40 hits.
– Michael Jackson was the 7th of 9 children.
– Michael Jackson was born in 1958 … 19 + 58 = 77
– Michael Jackson died on the 25th … 2 + 5 = 7
– Michael Jackson has 7 letters in his first and last name.
– his last tour with the Jacksons started on 7/7
– Look at the date of the letter of MJ's Doc they had found in MJ's house: July 21, 2002. July=7, 2+1+2+0+0+2=7.
So another 7/7. http://www.tmz.com/category/mi…..on/page/2/
Michael has planned this perfectly, like he want's everything to be: perfect
- Michael spend his 'last' months a lot of time with David Blaine who is famous for his major stunts.
- I haven´t found people that had tickets for July, or 2009, that weren´t postponed till 2010. I also havent´s heard yet that people got their money back for the tickets and nobady have received the special lenticular tickets yet. Why not= Maybe because the tickets they will receive are tickets for his Ressurection Tour in 2010..
Again: I don´t know what is going on and he might be dead, but I think this is really something he could create. He want´s to do big things, to exceed the succes of Thriller means you have to something BIG!! Also he would have known his albums would sell again, and that´s how he convinced the State, assuming that the 100 milion tax dept is true. If could promise to pay back by doing this, Arnold would have told the LAPD and the Coroner´s office to cooperate.
If my theory tuns ot to be wrong on the 30th of October, I really think he's dead. BUT: if my theory is right, I will laugh my brains out. That would be the biggest thing ever, and it would demonstrate how much of a genius he is.
So, if there is someone who can kill my theory, please let me know.
That would be awsome. Like they could be dropping clues and deliberatly changing our stories just so we will keep digging. They drop clues and we go on a scavanger hunt and to play apart in this big movie, that would be outragious. Tlhat's a good theory, I hope it's right. That would be quite interesting.
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