In recent days, several new developments have come to light in favour of the theory that Michael Jackson has Staged his own death and pulled off the greatest Hoax of the Century. As we are already aware, the several inconsistencies surrounding his ‘death’ have opened our eyes to the fact that we are not being told the whole story.
We believe that if he really was dead then it would have simply been an open and shut case. For example: Michael Jackson was discovered to have passed away at home from Cardiac Arrest, 911 Emergency was called, he was picked up by paramedics and then sadly, pronounced dead. However, as we all know, it was not an open and shut case and there were far too many ’strange’ happenings and unexplained events that took place on the day he died.
We have been told that he was given a four hour medical, which he passed, in order to go ahead with the O2 Concerts in London. We have also heard that the night before his death he was full of energy, put on an amazing rehearsal performance (which just happened to be video taped…what a coincidence) and then just happened to die of a Heart Attack the next day.
We have heard the strange tales about his ‘doctor’ who allegedly injected the singer with Demerol a half hour before he collapsed, happened to ‘find him on his bed’, didn’t call 911 until a half hour after his death, refused to sign his death certificate and who disappeared moments after the ambulance took Jackson to the hospital.
We have seen the footage of Michael Jackson sitting up in the Helicopter ride to the Morgue, no doubt thanking everyone for putting on such a great ‘act’ and then saying ‘I’ll be off now’, as he was wheeled into the Morgue, then disguised himself and walked out the back door.
Now it seems, even more strange things are taking place, which place our Hoax theory as being very possible. Let us share a few points:
- Michael Jackson and Deborah Rowe during their marriage in 1996.
It has been announced by Deborah Rowe, the Ex-Wife of Michael Jackson, that the late star is not the biological father of their two children. Deborah ‘Debbie’ Rowe, the mother of Prince, 12, and Paris, 11, has spoken of her “sham marriage” to Jackson in her first public interview with British tabloid newspaper News of the World.
Rowe, who married Jackson at the Sheraton Hotel Sydney in November 1996, said she was artificially inseminated by an anonymous donor and likened herself to one of the thoroughbred mares she now keeps on her California ranch.
”I was just the vessel. It wasn’t Michael’s sperm,” Rowe told News of the World. “I got paid for it, and I’ve moved on. I know I will never see my children again.” Rowe revealed she and the Thriller singer never had sex and did not share a bed during their three year marriage, describing the union only as a friendship.
Rowe reportedly then gave away her parental rights to the children in exchange for a $US 8.4 Million payout over nine years. Rowe said their’s was a shotgun wedding. ”He wanted to pretend that we were a family.” She was 37 and pregnant and he was 38.
With this admission by Debbie Rowe, it puts to rest all of the skeptics who are claiming that Michael Jackson ‘would never stage his own death because he wouldn’t want to leave his children’.
Why wouldn’t he when they aren’t even his?
Secondly, we have the bizarre behaviour of Michael Jackson’s father, Joe Jackson. It was quoted on E! Online that, ‘At this point, Joe Jackson knows more about his own record project than his son’s funeral plans’. Very disturbing.
- Michael Jackson’s Father Joe Jackson and Al Sharpton at a recent Press Conference
At the BET Awards in Los Angeles a few nights ago, CNN’s Don Lemon attempted to interview Joe Jackson about the death of his son. Jackson answered Lemon’s questions with abrupt, detached answers, passed the mic to his spokesperson and attorney, and then promoted his record company.
Jackson’s answers were strange right off the bat: Lemon asks him how he’s doing, and Jackson responds, “great, I’m doing pretty good,” which seems like a peculiar thing to say after one has just lost one’s son. He then switches gears and says, “It has been really tough. Remember, we just lost the biggest star in the world.” Which also seems strange, as it seemed like a fairly detached way of phrasing things.
Don Lemon then asks how Janet Jackson and the rest of the family are coping with the news of Michael’s Death and Joe Jackson’s response is this,
“They’re all fine, but I want to make this statement…this is a real good statement here, Marshall and I own a Record Company called Ranch Records”, and shows great enthusiasm as he plugs the Record Label.
Either he is just a money-hungry heartless bastard or he is so composed and carefree because he knows that his son Michael is actually still Alive. Or perhaps it’s both!
Third, Reports that were made in April of this year stated that an Auction was planned to sell off several possesions belonging to Michael Jackson which were apart of the Neverland Ranch Estate.
Items such as amusements, a custom made horse-drawn carriage, antique automobile replicas, renowned international awards, arcade games, concert costumes, Disneyana, garden statuary, furniture, the actual (and quite) grandiose entry gates to Neverland and Jackson’s iconic white-jeweled glove.
A portion of the procedes of this Auction were said to be going to MusiCares, a charity of The Recording Academy, however the bulk of the funds was said to be going straight into the pocket of the King of Pop himself. This Auction was then cancelled by Jackson after the O2 Concerts in London sold out. Apparently Michael Jackson had found another way to generate some extra cash for his transition into a new Media Free Life.
With a life that claimed Depression, extensive use of Pain Killers, Debts estimated to be in the arena of US$400 million, constantly being hounded by fans and the media, and the pressure to deliver on 50 spectacular concerts at the age of 50, why wouldn’t you consider the possibility of faking your own death to enjoy a peaceful life on an island somewhere with nothing to worry about?
We’ve noted here that those of you who are non-believers are maintaining that Michael Jackson would never be able to pull this off, as he is too recognisable, or would never do it to his fans, but we want to say WAKE UP PEOPLE.
If ever there was anyone on the face of the planet who would have the means to pull off a Death Hoax with access to plenty of money hidden away offshore, transportation whenever and wherever he wanted to go, staff who would do anything for him, and the motive to want to leave his circus of a life…it’s definately Michael Jackson.
He may now be ‘dead’ to all of us, but he is absolutely physically alive…. somewhere.
As much as I want to believe he is still alive, there is one thing thats bother me.. Why would the family put his body on public view if he was stil alive. die hard fans would maybe be able to see if it’s wasn’t really him, but a lookalike. would they not ?
Well said.
My personal theory is that Michael Jackson is alive and kicking, but not hiding out with “Tupac and Elvis”.
Michael Jackson does this kind of shit, starting rumours of sleeping in a hyperbaric chamber and buying the remains of the elephant man. It’s all a facade.
Nah. I think some memorial concert at the o2 will emerge and Michael will reveal himself, go on with the show, and present himself as the biggest genius of them all.
Who can beat the prospect of a comeback when he’d be coming back from the ‘dead’?
No one. People would be pissed, inevitably, but it would be the greatest.
As a ticket holder myself, however, I may just be being hopeful.
Who knows…
Keep up the good site.
The Jackson family has just announced that there will be no public viewing in Neverland ranch as earlier reported, so there is a little hope there, there will maybe be a public memorial in LA probably and i’m not quite sure what means. Will there be a viewing or not..? if not there is something wierd about all this ?!
Michael’s brother Jermaine said that he saw Michael’s body at the hospital, and that he held himself togehter because Michael was still alive, that his spirit was still here and his body was just a shell.. it sound a little wierd to me.. maybe it’s just me.. :S
i truly belieive he is alive… come on ressurection tour??? he is alive!
actually that Debbie Rowe interview was proven to be a fake. She spoke to Radaronline about what the truth was, she also said a few years ago that those ARE Michael Jackson’s biological kids.
http://momsword.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2085:those-are-michael-jacksons-biological-kids&catid=1:latest-reviews&Itemid=50
do I think he is alive? There is a chance. And if he staged his death and came back for the concert, it would be awesome …but I don’t think he is. sadly
and I actually met him in person before. RIP MJ. I wish and hope I am wrong.
I would love nothing more than for this to be fact. I have loved Michael Jackson for as long as I can remember and have felt like I lost a very important member of my family ever since I heard the news.
I bookmarked your site here because I’m really anxious to follow your thoughts on this in the coming weeks, you make good points here.
Just wanted to add my two cents;
I heard on the radio this morning that members of the family have offered to go to London and cover his concert dates for the fans. Wouldn’t it be incredible if at the first concert one of them went out to sing Billie Jean as a tribute to Michael and during them singing the song Michael comes moonwalking onto the stage, alive and well.
I would be so happy.
I hope and wish for this to be true; that he’s faked his death and will come out of hiding in a few months but I just don’t know if I think it’s true or not….
He’ll come back when music officially dies, which shouldn’t be too long now….
well me n my sis hd pondered a lot over the thot of mj’s so called death until we came across this site….guys even i believe dat he is still alive and the one who is dead is his look a like…even da 1 in chopper…this is a big scheme which we cant even imagine…and its perfectly logical…
First of all, that Debbie Rowe story is fake. So, lets leave that alone. But that is actually even better news. That means that the media has gotten so caught up in this they themselves believe anything until proven otherwise. They even believed the fake autopsy story. So, it is possible for Michael to pull off a fake death because the media latches on to everything. In my heart, I feel like something is going to surface at the memorial. I know that may just be wishful thinking but the way people involve phrase things are wierd to say the least. They keep saying its all about the fans. Well, a memorial should not be all about the fans. It should be about Michael, right? Jermaine is too damn persistent about having Michaels body buried at Neverland. He says its what Michael would have wanted. He says lets look at what Michael wants. Well, didnt MIchael say he would never return to Neverland, so it’s almost as if Michael changed his mind and is letting his family know. See, it feels like they are trying to change the public’s negative image of Neverland. If you have wathced Larry King Live, then you probably have found your self loving that place. I know I have. Just listen to Jermaine when he talks. I know people always say I feel them in spirit, when someone dies, but the way Jermaine says it is interesting. Even Miko’s wife said it’s like he hasnt left. And I have yet to see a tear roll down Jermaine’s eyes. He has had watery eyes, but no tears. Anyway I hope not to offend anyone by offering my thoughts, but if you are on this site, then you yourself believe something is going on as well. Sorry, if my thoughts sound jumbled. I have somewhere to be in a few, and I really wanted to leave my thoughts on this. Have a happy holiday people. Remmeber, do not believe everything in the media. The media barely knows what is true or false themselves.
Which I do not understand, during the 2005 trial Lawyer thought Jackson ‘would kill himself’ during trial
http://breakingnews.iol.ie/entertainment/lawyer-thought-jackson-would-kill-himself-during-trial-417409.html
In this report (on tv) we learn that MJ was taking 7 painkillers per day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T11jwiGBVDw&feature=related
(I do not know the consequences with those drugs on the body), could he performe like we can see on this last Final Rehearsal Video Released ?
Why is there interview with Dr. Conrad Robert Murray?
im afriad i dont agree with the latest footage of michaels last performance either the routine is identical to the history world tour having seen the history tour 12yrs ago as soon as i saw this new released footage i had a feeling id seen it before so i did some comparing and viewed both bits of footage the lastest one and they dont care about us history tour and suprise the dancing and the song set are the same he sings they dont care about us then u hear the american theme from history then u hear a car horn from she drives me wild along with his marching soliders so why keep the routine identical after 12yr gap with no changes?
I really hope this is a hoax, Im half expecting him to jump out the coffin tommorow and do thriller or something.
It just doesnt add up. If he has faked his own death then it is completely genius, and totally succeeds at mocking the media who are so quick to latch onto a senstaional story. It reminds me of the heydey of ‘Wacko Jacko’ when reports circulated in the press that Michael had bought the elephant mans bones, or that he wanted to look like Liz Taylor, or that he slept in a hyperbaric chamber. Some of the stories featured in the press are so conflicting right now its hard to know what to believe, the latest one today being that Michael is going to be buried without his brain!
I mean has anybody actually seen a death certificate? Maybe the Memorial service will hold the answers
I haven’t heard anything about a Death Certificate. I don’t believe he’s dead. I know people might say that is disrespectful, but I just have a feeling that his not. There’s way too many stories out there on different news stations, including the internet. They’re saying Michal Jackson was addicted to painkillers since 1984. I kind of find that hard to believe, because, someone would at least came out years ago and said he’s addicted to Pain Meds.
The family do not seem at all sad?
Especially Joe Jackson, WOW!!!!
His mother katherine was seen shopping basically a day later? I don’t recall the media ever showing a corpse being flown in the air to be picked up by the coroners? If he was addicted to drugs the autopsy would of shown it or if he died of cardiac arrest it would of been in open and shut case. They let Janet in the house to get Michael belongings about an hour later? And moving trucks was there pretty quickly!!!!!
And on the O2 press conference, that was definitely not Michael Jackson, including when he was wathcing the dancers for the audition of “This IS IT” tour that was not him, because Michael never chewed his gum like this guy was doing it!He was blowing bubbles? Crazy! The so called new footage that’s being aired. I actually think I seen that , like back in 1996! Same dance/music style! Michael even looks the same along with his hair.They “suppose to” have a private ceremony tomorrow morning (tuesday) at 8am. So, michael is not going to be at the Public memorial! I honestly believe he just wanted to give his musical career up, because he became mentally unstable because of how the public treated him and no childhood, that can affect someone. The 911 call, just seems “UNREAL” to me! And now all of a sudden everyone is coming out the “dark” saying yeah, michael was addicted to drugs, I tried, to get help but no one would listen? That’s crap! I’m sure it would of “leaked” out years ago about the drug abuse. AEG (the insurance company) took out a policy that covered Jackson’s accidental “death”, including from a “DRUG OVERDOSE”, but not if he died of natural causes. So apparently he “died” of an overdose of demeoral or prescribed medication? There is so many holes in the story. But no one is paying attention, they’re buzy listening/believing the media (which is bullshit)!!!!
Just my opinion!! I know he is out there somewhere, but not in America!!!! I don’t blame hime for doing any of this, if i’m right. He was mistreated so badly for so many years. The Hyperbaric chamber story, Michael himself actually “leaked” that one.
I don’t know, something’s just weird!!!!
Michael started his own rumor about the hyperbaric chamber??
Why is it that we can see Michael’s will, and his childrens birth certificates but no one has bothered to look at the death certificate? We are just accepting what the media tells us.
I sincerely hope that something happens at the Memorial today, if not then I will just have to accept that Michael Jackson is no more. What better way to kick off a world tour than by coming back from the dead and performing at your own memorial-when all the world is watching!!!
If nothing happens at the memorial today, I will accept his passing as well. I can not go insane with this. However, even if nothing happens today, I know in my heart something is going on. Everything is just not adding up. I want nothing more but to come back to this site and discuss with all of you how we all knew what was going on. It will break my heart if I can not get some answers on this. I just do not believe he is dead. It’s not denial because I have lost a family member before. I know the grieving process. I just know something is not adding up. My goodness….
You are right. Why hasnt anyone questioned the death certificate? Isnt it odd that neither of the doctors would sign it?
Nothing happent today at the memoriel. People were sad. Exept one thing, Paris, was the only one who shoed emotions for her father. Neither price or Blanket did. Seems a bit weird. But i think that he is gone. When i saw Paris talk to him, and be so devasted afterwords, i just knew it, right there. He is really gone. MY GOD. I could not believe it, my heart just stopped, and rigth after it was broken. I felt a huge whole in my stomack, and i have been crying nonstop ever since. Why Michael, why not Joe Jackson? I hate that Man, for what he did to Michael
But, i would like to know about the Death certificate also, because if someone dosen`t sign it, you are not dead, on the paper. I have hoped that we got to see Michael`s Body, but we didn`t
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Something is definitely going on and someone knows something. I just typed in http://www.mjhoax.com and it goes to the World Internet Authority website. Maybe MJ wanted to see if by faking his death how popular he was with his fans. When in history have we ever had a tool like the Internet to gauge how successful someone is? And I bet he is in some secret location watching in awe how this circus gets more and more ludicrous and out of control. All I know is that I have “accessed all areas”
I believe the “memorial” just seemed “different”, if he really was “dead” why didn’t they have the casket open? The family wasn’t really tearing up. Especially his children, so that was weird. No on is questioning how he “died”?
They just taking about “drugs” and “what’s going to happen with the children”? After the Staples Center, the stopped at the Hotel, while the hearse went elsewhere? That seriously does not make sense. He supposely been “dead” for almost 2 weeks, how can you not know where to bury your family member. In plus, no one knows where his body is at…. The death certificate, I believe is fake, anyone can make those. It’s not even signed by any doctors.. It doesn’t matter if it’s deferred, a doctor would still sign the certificxate.
Things are not adding up, Usher, was more emotional then his “OWN” family. Yeah paris got emotional after she played with her purse straps for about 5 minutes. Then she did a 180, as soon as she stepped to the microphone. The eldest son was chewing gum like crazy, he didn’t even seem sad. And the youngest was doing anything, but staring…. I doubt if there was a body in the coffin. I still think he’s a live.
Why have a “Private” funeral first, then transfer his body to the Staples Center, it could of been the other way around.
At the end of the memorial, it showed “I’m still Alive” Huh? No one is questioning anything, they’re believing the media!!!!
I have to say after watching that Memorial yesterday I know believe MJ is officially dead.
His cause of death on the death certificate has been ‘deferred’ until results from the toxicology tests come back.
There are some serious questions which you have to ask yourself-
1. If MJ faked his own death and his family know then how could they display such emotion as they did last night?
2. There is no way Michael Jackson would ever be away from his kids, so if he is faking it then he will send for them or he will return to LA. No father would put their children through the ordeal of a memorial service and funeral is it was all fake.
3. I agree there are some suspicious things about this which dont add up, but I feel the whole thing has now gone too far for him to ever come back.
4. Talk of imposters or decoys being used, and the belief that it wasnt mj in the ambulance photo-how many of us actually know what MJ really looks like, I mean without make up, close up?
I do not believe that Michael Jackson is dead either. There are too many inconsistencies in all of it for it to be true. First of all…the 911 caller is very calm and if my employer were Michael Jackson and he was not breathing, I would be hysterical on the phone or you would at least be able to hear a sense of urgency in my voice. He never mentions that it is Michael Jackson, either. I would. Now, do you want to tell me that a medical doctor with years of experience would be attempting to perform CPR on a surface such as a soft bed? C’mon! I’ve taken many CPR classes and the very first thing they teach you is to try to have the body on a hard surface…the dr. had to be told this by the 911 operator? Ludicrous! And it wasn’t as if he had been in an accident and could have had broken bones and that’s why he hadn’t moved him to the floor! Also…none of his family is showing any type of emotion concerning his death. I can’t believe it when I see the videos of them. No one is crying or anything. When Matt Laurer interviewed Jermaine at Neverland, he might have had one tear stream from his eye, but it almost seems as if he had to force that. And, he said that he saw Michael’s Michael’s body because he needed to and his last statement was, “he’s very much alive.” (He meant in the hearts of all people or it was said in that manner so we would understand it that way.
I personally do not believe that the man giving the press conference in London was Michael Jackson. He was just so wrong in every way…the look, the sound, his mannerisms, even the way he walked. You cannnot convince me that it was him. I am not sure of what the significance of this is and how it relates to his death, but it is still very odd.
There are more inconsistencies…there was going to initially be a public viewing and that didn’t happen. No one has seen the body. Even when Elvis died, there was a photo of him in the coffin. How are we to know that Michael’s body was even in that coffin at all? It could very well have been empty for all we know. And, I agree with the person on here who said that it is strange that the family have a private memorial service at the cemetary before the public memorial service. Now we hear that Michael is not even going to be buriend in that cemetary at all.
I would believe if it anyone had seen his body, but I cannot find anything on that anywhere on the internet.
I know I’m rambling, so I’ll sign off for now and see what develops.
I am curious as to where the bosy has gone!!! I thought that it was going to a temporary grave in Forest Lawns, but according to the media no one went back there after the memorial service….Seems a little odd for them to do that if there wasn’t good reason!!!! The LA police said that he was being buried in some cemetery or other, but could not be specific. The whole thing seems to be embroiled in ambiguity, secrecy and anomolies that don’t add up.
I agree its very strange there are still no pictures of the dead Michael Jackson. Not in his coffin, no pictures of the family at Forest Lawns. Makes you wonder… as the paparazi are following these people like vultures, there should have been any photos.
This also makes the picture of Michael being rushed into the hospital more suspicious. At that moment almost no one knows about his situation, how is it possible that just at that moment the only photo is taken at that exact place? It should have been unknown that it was Michael jackson as the 911 call doesn’t reveal a name of the gentleman.
There is a lot of media coverage on his assumed death, and this picture is all we’ve got. The paparazi should be fighting theri ass off for exclusive pictures!!!
I am glad that there are other people who believe that that was an imposter at the 02 Arena. I watched that video on youtube and I was immediatley convinced the moment I seen the imposter walk, then of course when he spoke. But I am still trying to figure out “WHY” Michael needed an impersonator. I have been doing a lot of research, and I have also noticed that it seems like since 2005 there has been other imposters working for Michael.. Do your research and compare photos and videos. If you know MJ’s face, then you will see the difference. I also think that was am imposter interviewing with Geraldo, and rehearsing on stage for the concert. I believe Michael has been planning this hoax for quite some time now, he is very clever and had the money to hire the best of the best imposters in the world – and probably pay for their plastic surgery. Either MJ has these imposters to do his appearances while he is plotting his get-away,,, or he was murdered way before this and these imposters were trying to cover it up this whole time… I really don’t know what to believe.. anyone have a comment on this?
To Tiffany:
It’s possible that Michael died a couple of months ago and imposters took his place. Maybe he was killed for his debt to the Bahrein Princes. All possible..
But from that point AEG had a problem, as the ‘this is it’ (doubtfull name) tour was already planned and a lot of monney was involved. So they put an imposter in place and crafted the plan to let him ‘die’ a couple of days/weeks before the first concert as the imposter was not able to do the shows without being noticed as different. That may also be the reason for a delay of the first concerts.
After the staged death, they know sales of CD’s, DVD’s and other merchandising will be sky high, trying to minimize the losses or, as it looks at the moment, make or are going to make lots of money from the ‘Last rehearsal DVD’, the ‘Memorial DVD’ and tribute concerts.
This leaves me with one question: How could the imposter fool Michaels children and family or other relatives. They would easily know the differences. He can look the same, but he won’t have the same memory as Michael.
(However rumours/news in the netherlands is now that the coronor still has Michaels brain for further investigation)
After watching the Paris thing over again, It does make sense that it sounds like it is a front. I thought the same thing as to seeing her smiling throughout the memorial and then at the end, She just ups and volunteers for her public speech? I think not. Michael was 5′10Ft, And the first thought that came to my mind when I first seen the coffin rolled out was that it was too small! Never in the history of deaths though have I heard of a body not being buried in two weeks. That is just normally unheard of. Something is up, That I know. I think the memorial was staged. Maybe everyone is paid off in this case. IF, Michael ever does manage to surface again, The police won’t arrest him because of a money agreement. Anything is possible. After all, If Michael staging everything is possible, Anything is possible. I feel more at ease in knowing he is still alive. A burden has been a bit lifted from my shoulders. I cannot imagine a world without him in it.
If foul play were suspected, then why didn’t the suthorities keep the body???? If this were Joe public, then they would until all avenues had been explored and then the body would be released for burial. No cremation would be sanctioned because they may need to exume the body for further tesing. I know this as a fact because it happened to my friends Mother who died in the early 90’s under suspicious circumstances and they would not allow a cremation. Her body was dug up some months after her death for a second PM.
I have just been discussing this with a friend who is a police woman and she agrees with me that she is confident that he is still alive and has escaped the “world” to try and gain some semblamce of normality in the later years of his life. She went on to say why she thought they did not have an open coffin like James Brown had or Princess Grace of Monaco. Why couldn’t people file past and quietly pay their last repects???? If it was “just a heart attack, then the head would be intact for viewing, even if it just had a voile cloth over it, it would in some way give confirmation of his death.
Finally I agree with other comments about the sales of his albums and associated merchandising, the estate would once again be worth millions from that alone.
Still not convinced he’s dead!!!!
There is certainly a lot wrong in this case. About the size of the coffin: From pictures i’ve seen, a body is not lying straight in the box, but there is some kind of ‘chair’ build in wich lowers the length used for a full body. Maybe thats the reason for the coffin looking too short
It WAS Michael in the rehearsels video`s danceing and sining. !st of all, he goes up close to the camera, i paused the video, and looked at his eyes, NOONE, no matter how much surgury can have such beautyfull eyes. If you are watching it closely, you can hear Michael talk many times, while he is sining, that is HIS voice. And the damce, you can prectice forever if you want, but nobody moves like Michael. I am pretty sure, that that was him at the rehearsels. I have to agree with the coment, where there is written, that the police will not arrest Michael if he should ever appear again, not they wont. He can solve that with money. But if he is alive, he will come back. Probely to one of the concert dates. I am sure that the children knows that he is alive. I would have thought that he really was dead, if i haden`t seen the sentence : Im alive, am im here forever” I will make a bet on that that was a sign. But noone paid attention to that, some people just believe what the media is telling us. I don`t. I think Michael is alive, and the world will find out soon enough.
I have just analysed the 911 recording posted on “Youtube” and the garbled response from the doctor while the emergency services are talking to the caller is this “It’s Michael Jackson, tell him to come” The voice of the doctor sounds foreign, either European or Hispanic – Latin American – I slowed the recording down at that point and picked up what he was saying. Another intriguing piece is just before the caller is asked to put him on the floor, another speaker – not the caller, not the emergency operator – says “Is he on the the floor” Why! It is almost like being prompted to say particular things during the conversation. The operator then says “Is he on the floor”!!!!! There doesn’t seem to the “urgency” that you would expect from the voices in the background, who seem to be talking in a calm manner, in situations like this information is often passed between the parties at quite a hurried rate to ensure that the “injured” are attended to as quickly as possible. The “Golden Hour” is the first hour after an incident when in most cases the injured parties can be revived to full health, the doctor should have known this and responded immediately to ensure that Michael Jackson would have survived. BUT, if he had been administering drugs that were the possible cause of this, then he was covering his tracks, or making a lame attempt to do so.
I read about this years ago…MJ would stage his own death….(Messiah syndrome)…then return with the biggest comeback of all time….and the ony person that will be allowed to interview him about “how he pulled this off”….IS OPRAH WINFREY!!! he wanted to prove to the world that the “Media can be wrong”…this will put closure on Child molestation allegations….Whacko Jacko insults…and silence , espacially CNN…..from having any jounalistic intengrity from then on!
That is why Oprah hasn’t been around at all!
His best friends were not aat the Memorial…LIZ TAYLOR….LIZA MINELLI…OPRAH…CHRIS TUCKER….DIANA ROSS…..and so many others….MJs Family are all helping out with the hoax…to throw everyone off!
Rickster, To be completely hornest, i think that you are right. That has been my thought ever seen that message apeared on the stage backwall on staple Center. I guess we will have to wait and see til the Family are doing some of the concert dates, and the “Jackson 5 Reunion”
Maybe Mj has gone to start a new life in Bahrain dressed in arabic clothes like this-
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article719783.ece
Or maybe hes walking round dressed as a woman like this-
http://worldofwonder.net/archives/2006/10/12/girlie_jeans/
Actually I recently watched the Oprah interview with MJ at Neverland Ranch. In the private theatre of the ranch MJ says something like “I try to imitate Jesus (then pauses) I mean I’m not saying I am Jesus”. He says this about helping children but if he tries to imitate Jesus, why not try a “resurrection” of some sort as well…? I also just read about a rumour saying that the O2 concerts will show the last rehearsal video which is shot in 3D and the article said “so it’s almost like he is really there”. I find that a pretty untasteful choice from the Jackson family if he really is dead. But I don’t know, it’s just a thought..
everyone’s contribution on this blog is offering different view points and observation of details, this tells me ppl besides myself are thinking … we can bring MJ’ “death” to one common denominator and that is: Michael Jackson staged is own death and has disappeared from view for now. All the “details” surrounding his disappearance have not been perfectly executed as many have expressed doubts and questions about this “event”. It is simply this: the media is seducing all of us with “Michael Jackson” mania and it is exactly this ongoing seduction with ever “new information” emerging that is done to keep distracting from the real truth, a truth so many on this blog have offered bits and pieces of. What we know about the truth are 2 things: 1. it is Self-Evident, and 2. it always prevails, but it takes its time to prevail and we may never again lay eyes on Michael Jackson live on stage or otherwise. While Elvis is hiding in the US witness protection program, MJ has another agenda and might decide to do a shock and awe resurrection act, we will see how long the truth will take to at some point prevail, and, reveal itself.
There is no CREDIBLE evidence that MJ is dead, a “death certifiate” can be forged and put in circulation to dampen the curiousity of those of us who are doubtful, and more such “evidence” will be floated, they have quite a job to do to quiet this all down, after all, this IS Michael jackson …. Michael Jackson was/is loved the world over and if he decides to “reappear”, trust me, NOT ONE SINGLE person will hold against him having staged his own death, but everyone will be in total shock/pure joy that he is back … if he decides to stay in hiding, he might find a life he was longing for and may prefer to stay clandestine, we will see, won’t we ?
Heisalive. I agree with you of most of the stuff
. Michael will not be “gone” for long, like you said, he is loved all over the world and NOONE would blame him for doing this. The entire would would be in chock, but it would be the greatest plug ever pulled. I would be so happy if he decited to reveal himself, on the concert at his birthday, wich his siblings are going to do. But unfortiently i also think that i would have amidietly heart failer lol, i would just die, if he came back. So you just have to love him for me 
They were showing a picture of michael from the liberian girl video set alot at the end, ive made up my mind that the show was a MJ production all but the filming. Even Bubbles would see past this hoax. There is two many cues hidden in the whole memorial.
MyBelovedMJ … I did not say MJ “will not be gone for long” at all, re-read my previous posting and you will see I did NOT say, nor imply it, my point made has a different meaning altogether. Remember this: Michael Jackson is not a healthy man physically nor emotionally as was very obvious while he was visible. Ergo: He’ll require a great deal of t-i-m-e and care to reacquire his bearings before any “comeback” could be considered and materialize.
“Loving him for you” is not an option on my end, the only man I really love is: JESUS and HE WILL BE BACK FOR CERTAIN, no question.
Michael Jackson is made out of the same dirt we’re all made out of, he had the added blessing of great talent which was wrapped into a gentle, vulnerable soul which shows itself as eccentricity in an artist. It occured to me just this afternoon that MJ was born into and raised in a dysfunctional family, having had to endure an abusive father (who reminds me of the devil in person btw!) having had his childhood stolen from him by force and was made into a energizer bunny-like “money machine” for years on end, an overbearing load to shoulder and bear for any human, twiceover taxing for a kindred spirit and soul as it is Michael Jackson.
Again, all of this logically supports the “escape/run away” theory of a “staged death”. I pray he is under the best medical care by REAL doctors and is receiving the “”don’t stop ’til you get enough”"-help he needs, in a safe place where noone can get to him, pray for God’s love to heal him …..
Dave859, you are absolutely right about “hidden clues in the memorial service”. I am convinced there was NO body in that casket for starters and moreover, important friends didnt show, but folks who hadn’t had contact with MJ in years and/or had only met him once, etc etc. This whole thing has a negligent “director”, Elvis’ parting was staged far more intricately and meticulously, dont cha agree ?
The faux pas made are mounting and mounting, however recognizable only to those of us who are unto this whole thing. Meanwhile, the media is now stoned on all the “drug stuff” coming out and keeps floating more and more “seduction” …. Thank you for reading, please post back
bexuk: I thought about that too. Maybe he’s out on the middle east somewhere assuming a new name, new identity, and a whole new life, a life full of peace – something he’s been longing for his entire life.
I agree that there is an ENORMOUS amount of conflicting information starting with the chain of events beginning at Michael’s home that even the media doesn’t seem to be addressing, or I’ve missed it. When someone you care deeply about passes on it’s natural to have doubts. I do have to say though that these conflicts are a bit much for me too. I do think it was him at the conference. I agree with the gal above that his gate didn’t seem like his when he walked in from the vehicle outside but I think that’s in part because the jacket was so large. And I do think that was him on stage at the conference. That was his face, voice and the hands were his. He seemed loopy. I think he was probably tipsy on something. Someone on another page on this site made a mention about Paris and I had to agree with him. She didn’t seem that upset. This could be because the initial shock at passed – so many days had gone by. I don’t doubt for one minute that she loved her daddy deeply. She was telling all the hateful people in the world how wonderful Michael was and he was. But it was when Paris spoke that I took a step back and thought hmmm….I wonder…could he still be among us. But let’s be sensible I tell myself…It would be quite an undertaking for all of these people to pull off this hoax. I’d like to know what the deal is with the DOCTOR that was at the house. Why in the world would he immediately surround himself with a legal team if something wasn’t amiss. Whether Michael is physically gone or not, one thing is certain..we will never see him again.
Most people around the world would attest that Michael Jackson is the greatest and most popular entertainer in the world. That said, if anyone could pull off a death hoax, it would certainly be him. Why would he do that? 1) He was in debt. His albums now occupy the top five spots on Billboard album sales and estimates indicate that within the week these sales will have paid off his debt. 2) He is very innovative, which is what keeps him at the top of his game as an entertainer. By faking his death and then reappearing, his popularity and worth will skyrocket. People will feel that they have a “second chance” to witness him perform, and they will not hesitate to pass up that opportunity. 3) The combined publicity from this event and from his future reappearance are quite strategic maneuvers, both career-wise and financially. 4) There was a recent article pointing out that Prince was now “on top” in terms of hit music, when compared to Michael Jackson. Also, Prince played for 21 nights in London last year, yet Michael’s shows were already up to 50 in London. Surely, that’s a sign of competition between the two.
Possible evidence: 1) No tears were shed during the “memorial service” by any of the family members. Sure, there were several moments of choking up, but not a single tear — look at the picture from the cover of USAToday. 2) We have a symbolic tradition here in the U.S. that when you are hopefully expecting the return of a loved one you tie or display a yellow ribbon. All of the Jackson brothers were wearing yellow ties at the memorial service. 3) Jackson’s shows were scheduled to begin on July 13th and couldn’t have gone on much longer before the production having to move to London for those performances. They already had Staples Center rented out for rehearsals, which seems a bit much for just rehearsals in that it just so happens to be the largest indoor venue in one of the largest cities in the U.S. I mean, Pink Floyd practiced in an airplane hangar, not a prime venue at some exorbitant rate. So, having the largest facility in one of the largest cities already rented, they were able to pull off this “memorial service” bit.
I’d also like to point out that James Brown, Michael Jackson’s idol as a performer, died on December 25. Michael “died” on June 25 — exactly six months opposite and surely symbolic. And even J.B. had an open casket.
The difference between Michael and Elvis in the suggestion of them faking their deaths is that I don’t believe that anyone had suggested that a celebrity would do this until Elvis died. I believe Elvis is dead (though that movie Bubba Ho-tep is pretty funny), but the idea of a celebrity death hoax was born with him and for 32 years Michael has been able to ponder that scenario for himself. I don’t ever recall hearing that M.J. loathed or disliked his celebrity; from what I understand, he always knew it to be a part of his life, and with the upcoming shows, it is obvious that he intended on staying in the spotlight. Therefore, it is unreasonable to think that he would pull a death hoax to end his career, rather, he would only use it to catapult it to a level beyond where it had been before.
Crazy? Possibly. Unrealistic? Not hardly. Will Michael Jackson be back? We’ll see.
Good post Rickster…
Usually Oprah is all over stuff like this and not one word has she spoken about MJ. No bantering to try and get interviews with the family, nothing.
MJ’s true friends were not at the memorial (okay maybe Stevie Wonder and uh, what’s his name, I think Lionel Richie or was that Smokey Robinson, I don’t remember anymore…lol… but the Jackson family requested Queen Latifah, John Mayer, Jennifer Hudson to be there and they said they had never even met MJ! (I found that out on the Huffington Post).
Now why would the family invite people whom Michael hadn’t met?
The Huffington Post also mentioned that Usher and Mariah Carey barely knew MJ and that Brooke Shields hadn’t seen / talked to him in 18 years.
What in the world is going on?
I have just been reading about the “disappearances” of prominent people over the years. One that stood out in my mind was the Premier of Australia – Harold Holt – He “vanished” after going swimming. No body was ever recovered, that was in 1967. There has been speculation about his disappearance since that time. Another is Lord Lucan, who vanished without a trace after, apparently murdering the families nanny back in 1974.
http://www.lordlucan.com/lucan_story.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Holt
I read in my local paper just after MJ “died” about one of his security men who comes from North Wales, where I live. He said that MJ had a secret companion, to whom he was absolutely devoted. She was kept from the publics gaze, and was never seen with him, but was in his life and that she may emerge after his death……Well, where is she???? Have they gone off together, has he planned this so well that he would never be alone if she were with him??? Too many questions and not enough answers. Another thing I saw today was on the front cover of The Star newspaper
http://www.dailystar.co.uk
about a couple who claim to be the real parents of MJ’s children…..They are all jumping on the band wagon now, but it will be interesting to see if the claims are founded!!! No smoke without fire I say. As had been said a couple of times on this forum, he would never leave “his” kids, but if he were to discover that they were not his, then he may be so devastated that this is the sort of thing he would do, the anguise and torment would be too much for him.
Just a thought!!!!!
WHERE IS HIS BODY???????? Still no sign of a burial!!!!!
hhhmm i don’t know what to say but keep praying for him where ever Mike is.
The divine miss jones. The companion you are talking about, that Michael had. Ive heard that she got fired in December last year. But who know`s
If they should be together, I hope he is happy 
I don’t know much about Elvis and his claimed hoax death. But if Elvis faked his death, it would hav been much easier in the 1970’s. There was no Internet or Cell phone. It was much easier to cover things up.
Now Michael possibly tried it again in the 21 century where almost evryone has acces to the internet, cell phone photo camera.
It would be much more difficult nowadays to pull this off. There are so many things to take into account for such a fake death job. Now it seems there are some loose ends wich they cannot cover up (anymore).
That may also be the reason why lots of negative stories about Michaels kids, his drug abuse and his debts are in the media. They try to distract people from what really happenend. Most sources of thes articles are close to the family or former employees of Michael. But none of them (OK, some exceptions) is called by name in these articles.
I hope ther will be a comfirmation the comming days wether he really died or he faked his death.
he did sleep in a hyperbaric chamber that is true
he is not with anyone i know this for a fact i will not give my info out but he is single and was never involved after debbie i do not know where you heard that lol
wow new info mother katherine gets kids and debbie rowe now asked for a delay to decide ok why the change she wanted them she said they are my children now she has to think about it who has talked to her about plans lol who is paying her off she was very determined to get her kids now she needs time to think the plot thinkens why is everything michael wanted unfolding must be for a reason i wonder how many ppl are getting paid off to complete this
Supermon75, well one of his bodyguards, said it on an interwiev. Don`t remember his name. but he did.. well good to know that he is singel. Cause i think he is sexy
Former bodygurds, i should say. a few days after michael “died”.
The family was furious that the hearse was drove by a white SWAP member.They wanted it to be an African American who drove the hearse.
After the memorial there was no body of mj in the hearse.
What does it matter who drove the hearse.
You can read it at the following link:
http:www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/07/exclusive-swat-team-transported-michael-jackson’s-body-family-battled-cops
The body of mj is being held in the crypt of Berry Gordy.
The family has not decided “yet” wher he should be buried.
If you still don’t know that after more than 2 weeks then you’ll never know.
But then you can stretch this as long as possible.
http://
http://www.nme.com/news/michael-jackson/45976
my other comment had to be SWAT member.And the link is:
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/07/exclusive-swat-team-transported-michael-jackson’s-body-family-battled-cops
They firts said there was no evidence of foul play.
And now they say it can turn in to a homicide case.
Can anyone tell me what is the difference.
this MJ saga is getting real ugly now with all the drug info coming out and poured all over him. Was it a wonder that MJ was addicted to drugs ? Were drugs his only escape ? This is very very likely. As to his chronic insomnia: this one goes to monster Daddy Dearest Joe Jackson who when Michael was a young boy, appeared with a werewulf mask at his bedroom window to “teach im a lesson” to keep the window closed at nite. Imagine how this “trick” from Daddy Joe must have petrified little Michael at the time this took place. Incidents like this one created irreversible damage to the psyche of a human, especially a young child. This ghoulish experience and fear grew with Michael and the fear part would not let him sleep normally, so he reached for help and over did it.
As a young child, I had several incidents with a variety of animals who attacked and hurt me, so much so, that I could never shake the fear of them and this fear is still with me very much, so in a way, I can relate to Michael’s fear of going to sleep. I deliberately choose a community to live in where housepets are shunned on and are forbidden so that I can feel TOTALLY SECURE to not be attacked by an animal.
Michael was petrified, fearful of a whole list of things, what better motivator to escape it all .. escape to: SAFETY !!!
Anyone ?
bt dont you think lapd is intelligent enough to check the dna of mj and of that imposter or the police dept. is also involved. i really want to believe that mj is still alive.
every day new drug is been published to which( the media claims) that mj was addicted to. i think had mj been doing so many drugs at one go he would have died years ago . come on yaar i really wanna know the reality
how can media nt hound upon a single clip of mjs dead body is beyond my understanding
how can mj fool the docs the police the media and everything which goes into it. i am hoping for an answer soon..
My husband – whose initials are MJ – runs a business from home and yesterday a woman called to ask what the MJ stood for, when I told her she went quiet, then I twigged, and said, “Did you think it stood for Michael Jackson?” to which she slammed the phone down. People are doing some very strange things.
I have asked around about the “temporary” burial of a body. In Britain that cannot de done because it requires special permission from a Government Department called the Home Office to move the body once a burial has taken place. In order to remove it from one spot to another you would have to be granted an exumation order. I am sure that similar rules apply in the US and if this is the case, you need to be looking at City Hall records and Government Departments to find out if such a request is being made.
Lsstly, a comment from my 11 year old son…Why did President Obama seem so unmoved by the event, during an interview he had to be prompted to say something about it. Considering MJ’s popularity you would have thought that to “humour” his fans a Presidential recognition of the death for have been one of his main topics.!!!!!!
i dont know how to put this bt honestly i believe whether he is gone into hiding or god forbaid he is even dead . i think he is in a better position in a better state than he was earlier. out of all this media hooplah the crazy stories.he deserved every bit of peace he wasnt able to get. it hard bt lets face it we never deserved mj we never respected him when he was alive and giving us so much to cherish . and know we are remembering him and wishing him to come back. how stupid of us. he was the best he was like jesus who went into so much of suffering for his children (the world) and what we gave him crucification ditto we have done with jackson.
Dikki. Do not say, “WE” Never did. Speak for yourself. Some of us actuelly did
i said we bcuz we were sitting silent in our homes when allegations were being charged on him. we didnt do anything we could have bought protests or something may b u r tryin to over react read my sentence in the context am saying
and as for me i have been fighting with my friends and relatives who have been telling me that he was what media framed him to b. i love him and i know it.
Now here’s a thought, and it’s just a thought. Thinking back to a personal experience of mine. My step-father died very suddenly from a heart attack about 6 weeks after having a pace maker inplanted. For the 6 weeks that he lived he said he felt great, and he looked fine, then WHAM! Gone. The PM in his case found a blood clot that had been sitting in his blood stream for goodness knows how long, once the pace maker was in place the heart beat regulated and the blood flow increased, accelerating the clot to his heart thus giving him the heart attack. He actually died mid sentence while talking to a friend.
Now, lets do a “what if” senario for MJ. What if he too had a blood clot. Years of plane travel can apparently cause one of these beasts. “What if” the rigorous dance routines and rehearsals had acclerated the heart beat, thus pumping the clot round to his heart. He may have felt some chest pain prior to dying, he may have asked for pain relief. We don’t know, we were’nt there. This could have been missed by a physical, just as my step-fathers (prior to his surgery).
As I said, it’s just a thought, but I feel it is one that I should voice.
Okay!!!!
so everybody thinks he faked his death…..
well to be honest if i could choose i would love that he would still be alive.
But i got a question…..
they have that last photo from him on the ambulance, he went to the hospital, that might have happened.
Let me tell you this, I’m from portugal and before they broke the news in the states that michael was dead, here in postugal that had already done that, in US media there was only the news that he went to the hospital, nothing more, probably an hour later they gave the news that he died… so does this mean anything i don’t……
But why say that he faked his death????? did anyone thought of the possibility that he might be in a coma and and his managers and family faked his death??????
Well i really don’t whta to believe, maybe we all never thought that we would die someday, that he was invincible, maybe he died and just can’t cope with that, we are so desperate to believe that he is still alive…..
To be HONEST i really want him to be alive, it just feels like music died
Okey. I hear ya. I can only speak for myself here
. Im not to desperate to think that he might still be alive. But i am pretty sure that he aint dead. Look at sll the facts, all the hints at the memoriel. Nothing adds up. NOTHING. And to be hornest, the one to tank for that is Latoys, she really blew it, at that thing where she was talking. She said: Michael always said, Family 1st fans 2nd. He loves you very much, and he is watching every singel one of you right now. He loves you with all his heart. Let me just say!!! DOHH!!! That was pretty stupid of her.. She should have talked about him in pressence sence. Not like he is still here, if she wanted to keep up his cover. Im glad that she aint my sister, incase i ever needed to fake my own death. That would be bad
I am convinced this is a hoax at the 02 arena Michael Jackson said I am serious this is the last curtain call and gave a suspicious look He stated “This Is It”. When Oprah did not make a public announcement. Something was strange when the family managers set up a crisis line and told fans please do not kill themselves. And when his brother said Michael Jackson maybe they will leave you alone. I believe the memorial service was a goodbye to his fans and career as an entertainer. He was saying good bye to his music career to peruse a peaceful life away from the media attention. Michael Jackson if you are out their alive I don’t blame you thank you for all the wonderful music. Your music will live forever
Well well well, somebody else besides me has FINALLY noticed that the video footage from the rehearsal the night before MJ’s alleged “death” is OLD FOOTAGE. NO human as weak as MJ appearing in the media weighing only 112 lbs is physically able to pull off a dance routine like shown in the vido, no way !!!! I am a dancer myself and can say with credible certainty that it is NOT possible ! My “this cannot be MJ”-hunch with this video was right on target. This net of lies being spun and presented to the public is outrageous in that these ppl, AEG and the Jacksons think we are all stupid ???
Not one single member of the mainstream media has so much as breathed a word that MJ staged his death, with one possible exception: Gerald Hessler from “The daily beast”, a US rag last sunday stated on the Geraldo Rivera Show that Michael “did not want to do this at all” referring to the London gig/s and said further that MJ wanted to use “Swine flu” to get “out of the gig” .. Hessler barely got the last cylable out of his mouth when he was CUT off and the subject was abruptly changed, did anyone besides me see that show ???
Hessler was on again this evening, 7/12, but this time hummed an altogether different tune and talked “nicely” …’hint’
LaToya’s interview with some british rag is real heavy hitting, have the Jackson’s become aware that the public is onto them and gave this interview to up the score ? Very possible !
I consider it a likely possibility that MJ made away right after his appearance at the rehearsal,that is: if that was him at all OR one of his doubles; that the person in the ambulance was definitely NOT MJ is very obvious as well as the double at the London press conference; that NONE of MJ’s close friends like Taylor, Ross, Minelli, Uri Geller and many others did not show at the memorial AND are still NOT speaking out is highly questioable and beyond bizarre; that LaToya “gave” an interview to some british rag to inject a new hit of crack-cocaine into more “these are the facts” media floating ??? How LONG can these ppl keep up this act ?
What they NEED to do is button up and stay in total seclusion if they want the public to believe that MJ has really “died” …
This is a conspiracy and whatever “information” is being floated and coming, whatever, I just pray that Michael is under the medical care of doctors he can trust and are are treating him to become well again, mentally and physically so that he can live a life he has yearned for elsewhere. We may never see him again and if that is so, remember: we did have the best of him for years and he is entitled to live a life in peace and safety.
What is everybody else thinking ?
he was not 112 that was a lie
they said in the autopsy michael was very helthy and no signs of foul play and they ruled out natrual causes already
he wanted air time is is all gossip do not believe anything you here like one of his former house keeper trie to say he locked children in his room feed them wine in baby bottles come on now he would never do that
I think MJ would have been better of saying he caught Swine Flu to get out of these gigs he so obviously did not want to do and was pressured into! If only he knew what type of circus and media frenzy he would create by instead faking his death.
Then again, he probably just didn’t care anymore. I hope he is well, wherever he is.
I agree with you. I don`t care if he ever comes back to perform. As long as he is alive, safe and well. That is the only thing that matters to me
michael would never inject himself i do not belive he was an addict at all and the media is cooking something up cause then they will not get paid if he is not found dead by overdose as it is stated in his insurance claim for the this is it concert they cover over dose but not natrual causes
here is another one for you all xanax if he was taking as much as they say he would be to tired to do anything he would not have sleep ap ok and most of the drugs he was doin are downers so how do they get he can not sleep out of that i do not understand
Correction: “The Daily Beast” reporter’s name is Gerald POSNER (I am sorry I misunderstood the name and got it correctly the 2nd time) apologies – thanks
My 11 year old son has been playing detective regarding MJ. Now here is an observation that he made about MJ’s right hand….Follow me with this one because you have to be quick. I am attaching a video of “The way you make me feel” from Youtube. At 3.14 – just after he shouts “Hey”, he extends two fingers and his thumb of his right hand. The thumb is the bit you need to concentrate on…You will notice that the tumb itstself curls at quite an acute angle and the bone just above sticks out to give an almost triangular appearance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJrUa-zKeIc
If you look at other footage ie the press conference in O2 arena London check out his right hand…for the same anomalies that I have already mentioned.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_256XQiS1X8
You could possibly trace his entire career by just looking for that one over-riding physical – dare I say – defect – I am, but not in a malicious way.
Now look at the “final rehearsal” video…At the end of the routine he extends his right arm and hand…check it out. Unless he had surgery to correct his hands, which could explain gloves and gauntlets in the past…then it looks to me, and this is a personal observation…to be someone else.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_256XQiS1X8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRQrmOc-Tts
This is the rehearsal footage that I watched. Sorry…repeated the youtube links. Take a look following the thread about the right hand.
Mrs. Jones: I agree about the “defect” but if you look at this video at about 45 seconds, he extends his hand and the bump is gone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz_J_do9hzY&feature=related
But if you look at the O2 Press Conference video, “MJ” calls the guy over and puts his hand on his shoulder and the bump is there!
However, I do NOT think it was really MJ at the press conference. The chin, smile, moves, etc. MJ would not get up there and talk the way this guy did. He sounded like an idiot. MJ was/is very well spoken in front of the camera. Look at any of his interviews. One thing about his hands, he seems to have the longest hands on a human! Really! His fingers are so long! But at the press conf, his hands are shorter and fatter it seems. MJ’s hands are so skinny too. Not at the conference, yet he doesn’t appear to have put on any weight. I know when most people put on weight, your fingers get fatter too. don’t they? Anyway, at the press conference, that is NAVI! Not MJ. Look at Navi’s pics. He has a wide smile, and his lips look more like a normal mouth than MJ’s (normal?). Whether or not MJ is really dead, that is NOT him at the conference. That is Navi! Your son is very observant! Keep it coming!
Over lunch the family came up with some other theories. One of which is this, MJ borrowed money from a Saudi prince – Yes! He was then asked to repay the money back – If he was as broke as they say, where did the cash come from? Our over lunch theorizing was this – and you have to remember that we were allowing our minds to do overtime on the conspiracy
theory – what if he borrowed it again from the Mafia, couldn’t pay it back and the doctor was paid to see him off. With the so called pain killer adiction, no one would question too deeply what the doctor did…As I said, it was over lunch, and it was a bash at a theory.
I miss him, the world was a much better place with him in it, I only wish I had appreciated him more when he was here.
I KNOW that was MJ at the 02 confrence.
Navi has a deeper voice then MJ.
Hi Divershay, And Hi there everyone from a warm and windy North Wales.
Now, let us suppose that if you are told something often enough, you start to believe it!
If we, the fans, are told that the person we are looking at is MJ, then, are we not drawn into the plot to keep the real MJ from prying eyes. A confidence trick.
During the 2nd World War there was a chap who looked like General Montgomery. A plan was devised to use this man to impersonate Monty and go to North Africa.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Was_Monty’s_Double_(film)
This makes the impersonator theory a good one, because we do not see the man – MJ – all the time, the person thrust infront of us, who we are told is MJ, we beieve is MJ. We only see photos that are tarted up and made to look enigmatic. We so want it to be him, that we truly believe that it is.
Tonight, on British Television – Channel 4 – was a documentary about the passing of MJ. I am attaching a link for those who missed it. You may be able to watch it on line. I am making no comments, but will leave the story to unfold and see what you think.
Another suggestion by Benjamin – my 11 year old – Try this for size…..The gold coffin with the seat like interior was designed so that a “living” Micheal Jacksin could attend his own memorial service. The huge bunch of flowers on the top hid an oxygen tank so that he could breath and the length of time for the service was determined by the amount of oxygen in the cylinder. Daft, but plausible!!!!!
Hey, you know what, it’s more plausible than daft.
Previous comments about his friends who were mysteriously not at the memorial is strange. If someone of that stature passes and you are asked to attend a memorial, you would put everything on hold, pull out all the stops and turn up. No Oprah, no Liz Taylor just folk who had maybe met him once, if that. Catterwalling some tune out – some of it was terrible – it was dreadful.
And I still wonder what the hell they did with the coffin afterwards!!!! Is it like a kind of transformer and changed from a coffin into a set of matching suitcases. Carried out so no one noticed.
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/what-really-happened
The link to Channel 4’s documentary about MJ.
Here’s what I don’t get. The Jackson were okay with helicopters flying above Forest Lawn the days before the memorial, the day of the memorial AND even let the helicopters follow the motorcade with the hearse to the staples center BUT would not let the coffin leave staples center being recorded? It’s being “said” that the coffin was taken through the tunnels under the Staples center and loaded into an unmarked van and taken away. WHY?? YOU JUST LET EVERYBODY FILM YOU BRING IT THERE!! And seriously…who lends out their family crypt(reporting that MJ is temporarily being held inside the Berry Gordy family crypt) Which he has now denied. MJ IS MISSING!!!!
@ The Divine Mrs Jones – that last paragraph made me laugh! I could just imagine the coffin turning into a bunch of suitcases. OR MAYBE LATOYA WAS HIDING MJ IN HER DAMN HUGE HAT! (not seriously, but damn that hat needed it’s own zipcode!)
“And I still wonder what the hell they did with the coffin afterwards!!!! Is it like a kind of transformer and changed from a coffin into a set of matching suitcases. Carried out so no one noticed.”
HAHAAHAH!!! Priceless!
And yes, I would have thought Liza, Liz, and several other closest friends would have been there. But no! They couldn’t be “bothered” to show. Very strange.
And what ejay5131 says makes us wonder too! The whole thing with the media is weird. Only ONE pic since MJ “died”? Come on, ONE! That’s silly considering how many pics they get of everything else related to anyone famous or even a little bit famous.
This whole thing makes me mad that they think they can pull the wool over everyone’s eyes. The fans aren’t stupid! We have loved him for too long and scrutinized every physical detail about him through the years.
Ok everyone I found a song, It’s really Crazy unreleased from Michiael Jackson, It talks about how he’s “planning” his escape from the “system” and “pressures” he has to find a place to hide away.(thats what he says in the song) the name of the song is xscape(yes, it’s actually spelled that way.
If he faked his death, he’s away from the pressures, he has to leave his children behind, if he don’t want people to know he’s “dead”). If the children is with his family, he will always see them. Latoya said, he didn’t want to do the 50 shows, that’s probably why it was an impersonator at the O2 conference! It was him rehearsing in the video, if he’s planning his get away, he has to cooperate, right? AEG insured for “overdose”? WHY?
This song tells it all. OMG. It is not a old song. He is sining of how he wants to get away from the media, and just want to be in a place where he dosen`t need to hide from everyone. Where he can be himself. He is telling it all in this song. It can be more clear. Michael has “escaped” The pressure. He just wants to be in peace. I wonder whan he made this song, it can`t be that long ago. MY GOD. Mabye he really is alive? I really hope so. I would make me smile again. I guess we just ahve to leave Michael alone. I just hopes that he is happy and in peace.
now this should answer everything something is wrong i think the women of the family are hiding michael he is alive and his brother and father have been using michael for his money jermaine is broke his brother jermaine said that the jackson 5 were goin to have a reunion but in an interview with michael he said he was never going to sing with them again so maybe latoya knows it was her brothers father and AEG in a plot and they are protecting michael right now in hiding till the truth comes out also new news that there is another will from 2007 he wrote a new will every 5 yrs now michael might have it or they do and they are goin to pull it out saying michael wanted his sister rebbie to mother his children and debbie and katherine have agree to keep joe out of the childrens life cause he is now tryin to get costody of the chikdren and he wants to make them the jackson 3 so the ploy thickins
http://www.lipstickalley.com/f227/jackson-family-fallout-exclusive-interview-manager-reveals-rift-over-funeral-192891/
la toya is now saying that there is a big conspiracy behind murder of mj. she is saying that $2 million are missing from his rented home when world believed him to be totally bankrupt.. she is also saying that mj was fed up of taking these drugs which some people were giving to him to keep him submissive. if it was truly there then why the family never protected mj out of all this. why they let him die and are now creating all this fuss and making autopsy over autopsy.
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This is LaToya’s biiiiiiiiiiig chance to “shine”, to propel herself into center stage, but most importantly, make some monnnnnnney!
Her credibility equals Zero as she is insincere and phoney. when Michael was accused of Child molestation, it was LaToya who on national US television spoke out in support of the accusers and against her brother, I remember it well, does anybody else at all ? ? Shame shame on you big sista !
LaToya is a diva wanna-be, a sensationalist, an opportunist and extremist. Her only claim to fame is showing her coochie for a few bux to a trashrag like “Playboy Magazine” … and here, she suddenly has turned into and acts like Florence Nightingale ?
These rags she is talking to are paying her a nice dollar for the drama queen act she’s just pulled off here, she makes me sick
Sister Janet who worked with Michael on videos is surprisingly hush hush, isn’t she ? But then again,Jan had a good run in show business and has money and, all she showed was her nipple at the superbowl half-time show and called it “wardrobe malfunction”. Neither one of them has any lady-like qualities.
The more details emerge, the more ground the ’staged death’ gains. These “interviews” are nothing but a mechanism to redirect attention to a new theory they are spinning, Murder … they stop at nothing to create sensationalism and seem to think we are all stupid or something ?
I pray that Michael is safe and secure. What must he be thinking …. ???
I’ll tell you what Michaels thinking…True fans can NEVER be fooled!!
ejay, thank you for your reply, I think you are right, great answer
yes maybe michael is still alive. bt i dont think he did this. maybe a threat to him or he was kidnapped to get money? blahblah lol
I wonder if he’s reading this???? Maybe scanning the internet to find what people are saying!!!! If so – Hi Michael.
What the heck is this????
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/090713/entertainment/centertainment_us_jackson
Divine Mrs. Jones: that not only the Jacksons and other parties, but MICHAEL HIMSElF might be reading the postings on this website occured to me too just today. I also thing the “staged death” concept is gaining traction around the internet, more and more ppl are blogging on different sites expressing their doubts that Michael “died” …
I am wondering about if anybody is controlling this and will at some point shut websites down who are exclusively dedicated to this hoax, what is your thought on this ?
ejay that was a tv reality show that the men of the family were tryin to start up before his death
or should i say his disaperance
Bloggers: have any of you seen this ? This is a “protocol” type order of occurences synopsis of the events surround Michael Jackon’s death, take a look and check it out:
http://michaeljacksonnotdead.wordpress.com/2009/07/12/michael-is-still-alive-death-is-staged-its-a-hoax/#comment-3
Ok, I’ve read the Escape lyrics and seen the video on Youtube.
Now, seeing as we are all open to speculation and possibility. Try this for size…and remember this is just me voicing an opinion…I have listened to his press conference again at the O2 Arena in London from March this year. The person speaking at the podium did NOT sound like MJ, the voice was too deep for my liking. Now, just suppose for a moment that the “This is it” Tour title is actually relating to the fact that he’s had enough and by July he be out and gone. The last time he’d be in London – July – Hummmmm!!!!!
Is he hiding in London? Was the talk at the press conference a metaphor for I’ll be back, but you won’t know it.
This thought has just sailed through my head…Here goes…If you want to hide a tree you put it in a forest. If you want to hide an apple you put it with other apples. If you want to hide a person you put them with people. OK…Here it is, just suppose that the people you were hiding with had relinquished all worldly goods and chattles…monks!!!! OR even a Amish community. It may sound silly, but if we are going down hoax road then we have to explore every possible avenue that leads from it, whether it seems daft or has a dead end.
As it used to say on the X Files – “The truth is out there”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhK1cKBut_o&feature=related
There is a series of Youtube videos about MJ’s home movies. On the first one, at the end, he says he doesn’t like to tour because – quote “I go through hell”
Maybe the thought of 50 shows was enough to start the ball rolling for the disappearing act. Not only the mounting debt to deal with, but being pushed by record comapnies etc to do the tour. It must be very hard work – and that’s an understatement – to be consistently good, to be as viberant on day 50 as you were on day 1. Not an easy gig.
Hands up who believes in the “after life” No joke. I belong to a ghost hunting group – http://www.theorbwhisperers.com and our resident medium has something to say on the MJ subject. If you want to hear what it is I’ll tell you. I do not want to offend anyone, because even I am a sceptic, but I do think I should allow for all possibilities that life – and death – has to offer. I you think that this will offend, I will gladly keep it to myself.
I have just watched a History Channel documentary called Cities of the Underworld, and in this episode it talked about a huge complex of tunnels cris-crossing the underneath of Los Angeles. There was once a subway that ran the length and breadth of LA, but it was closed in the post war period and the “land” was bought up by GM, closing the railways meant that people would have to buy cars…I can seen their point. My point is that maybe they have accessed some of these tunnels whilst building the stadium, and after the so called memorial, have ushered MJ away through them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cities_of_the_Underworld
Look at season 3 “Land of Manson”
You can google LA’s underground railways as well.
http://www.reptilianagenda.com/research/r110199k.shtml
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Downtown’s+forgotten+tunnel-a011766237
http://www.westworld.com/~elson/larail/PE/tour.html
http://www.flickr.com/groups/lagroup/discuss/72157611913350533/
You have to allow for the fact that I am trying to come up with every plausible possibility as to how to “magic” someone away. The memorial was the smoke screen.
No, please share! This is a place for our individual opinions and thoughts. So far yours have been so insightful! I can’t speak for anyone else on this page, but I would be interested to hear what you have to say.
And I really want to thank you for posting the link to the home movies. I had not seen that! I am going to watch all the segments now. So far I have watched the first and loved it!
As for the O2 conf, I tried to say that was Navi who was up there speaking and someone on here said it’s not Navi, that Navi’s voice is deeper than Michael’s. Now you say you think the person’s voice was too deep to be Michael. So you confirmed for me what I thought all along. Navi’s voice is deeper, the person on stage has a deeper voice. We don’t even need to continue on the physical differences of the two. They are clear to anyone who really looks.
“Mojofi Says:
July 13th, 2009 at 5:23 am
I KNOW that was MJ at the 02 confrence.
Navi has a deeper voice then MJ.”
Yeah, and uh….that’s what we are saying….
that the person on stage has a deeper voice than MJ. Hence, why we think it is not MJ but his double.
As far as trying to “magic someone away” I still like the transformer casket turning into a set of luggage to be carried. I still laugh when I get a visual! This whole thing isn’t funny, but the way you put it was. LOL!
I will first set out what Dave, our group medium told me. He said that when some one passes suddenly their spirit is in shock and does not realise that they have died. Dave has a “spirit guide” and has asked from time to time whether the guide can tell him if MJ is “in spirit” and, apparently the guide has told him no, not yet. Dave takes this to mean that he is still alive and has not yet passed.
I, on the other hand took a totally different tack, and being the EVP (electronic voice phenomena) queen of the group, I took my voice recorder and simply asked the question….”Is Michael Jackson really dead?” To which I got a quick response, a mans voice saying “No”
If I could find some way to put the voice recording on this site I would post it for you to hear.
Back to Dave for a moment. His spirit guide often helps him move spirits on into the “light” but it cannot find the spirit of MJ.
I am a sceptic, but there are those amongst us who feel that some spiritual comfort is required in times like these, and this is mine through Dave…Cheers Dave.
The “Ghost of Neverland” he says is not MJ…..Too soon, but the house has been standing for many years and has witnessed many families living there. The “ghost” is probably an old one, that has walked the halls and corridors for a long time. OR – my opinion – it’s a reflection/shadow from outside. I would love to go with the group and investigate…Get some great EVP’s from there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Am67-Sew7k
Yeah, I saw that. It was proven to be a crew person walking around in there and passed in front of a light. If you look through the window and the way the walls are on the outside, you can see there looks to be a room over in that area. It looked to me like the person was walking in that room and happened to pass in front of the window with sunlight shining through and the person’s shadow was thrown out into the room. At least, that’s what they are saying in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y3jlzS_BZc&feature=related
At about 2 minutes, it is clear and sharp. But I tell you what, I did get chills watching the original part in the first half again. Even after I knew they “debunked” the ghost story. Originally it was not as solid of an image so to speak. It was so transparent you almost don’t see it. But when they show how it was not real, the image is more solid. I am a big skeptic as well. Then again, I am not so much a skeptic as I have to see it to believe it but I don’t necessarily wanna see it! I am a big chicken so I guess it is easier to say oh, that stuff isn’t real than to actually think about how I would react if I saw something paranormal.
I too have had friends who believe in spirit guides and they would totally agree with what both you and Dave are suggesting. These are things we can never truly know.
I just did a little poll on a website about do you think MJ faked his death and is still alive. After you vote you can see the results. Like 88% (or around there) voted yes!! After watching all of the home movie segments, I really hope he is still alive somewhere. He has the cutest personality I have ever seen. And to hear him giggle while watching the movies in his theater, I hope he is somewhere laughing again. The sweetest sound! Anyone who has not watched them really should. My favorite is the first one where he’s all excited over the super soakers. Too cute!
Also an awesome part is where he is saying he hates touring and they are telling him they have to redo that part. He is so sweet to watch. I know this isn’t the place to discuss the home movies and such, I just wanted to throw that out there. Peace!
Hi Divershay
I take on board everything that you have said, I to think that the home movies are fun to watch.
That was then, we have to concentrate on “the now” That entails all of us putting our collective heads together and coming up with a rational explanation as to where the devil he might be hiding.
On the Channel 4 documentary that I mentioned earlier, one man who knew the Jackson family well said that just before his latest tour “This is it” they had tried to get to Michael to spirit him away to “clean him up” This chap believes that MJ wanted out of the adiction spiral that he was in. His “insiders” who perpetuated the adiction kept the family from him.
The final rehearsal footage shows some strain on MJ’s face, that could be because he has been out of the loop for so long, but it could equally be withdrawal symptoms kicking in!!!! To be honest, he looks like he’s in pain, he had apparently suffered from back trouble for some years. Channel 4 also interviewed a doctor who specialised in helping “well known” drug addicts. He said that he thinks that MJ was NOT taking heroin, but he was having a medication usually given to patients who they want to keep in a coma. That could explain the theory that MJ IS in a coma and it has been said that he would not come out of it. This would kind of explain the “death” announcement, and the lack of a body.
MJ was not pleased about the fact that the tour had gone from 10 dates to 50. Ironically the dancers assigned to work with him were originally contracted for 2 years. Why so long if the tour was supposed to be ONLY 10 dates????? Makes you think what else the record company machine had up it’s sleeve.
Just been looking at the supposed final photo from the ambulance – that photographer has made his annual earnings in one shot – anyway – I saved the picture and set it up so that I could rotate it for a better look.
Now, to me it seems like he is grimacing a little, his eyebrows are not relaxed, they are furrowed slightly just over his nose, the ventialation contraption in his mouth doesn’t seem to be in his mouth, he mouth looks closed. The colour of his skin is that of someone who is relatively healthy. I’ve someone after a heart attack and they look grey/blue and their lips go blue as well. None of it adds up to a victim of a heart attack. Even the make-up that he wore looks fresh. If I were giving CPR to someone wearing make-up I am sure that it would smudge and they for a time would look a bit of a mess. And if they are supposedly giving CPR in the back of the ambulance why is the paramedics hand on his right shoulder and not his heart. And if he is supposed to have “died” at home, why bother giving CPR at all. They were there for about half an hour or so, if they couldn’t get him back in that time thay should just have covered the body and taken him out quietly. I thought then, and still think now that it was a ploy to kick start the disappearance.
@ The Divine Mrs Jones – your posts make me happy! I, too, am a strong believer in the paranormal! I wish I was a part of a ghost hunting group, though. I tend to just wander on my own and do my own ‘personal’ ghost huntings, if you will.
As for MJ – I also believe that if his Family might be reading this website, it’s almost quite possible he is reading it as well!
@divershay – I know, MJ is the sweetest person ever, isn’t he? he is such a sweet soul, so gentle and fragile! He would never hurt a fly <3
ok take alook at this statement then i found a statement form dr.thome thome
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1615735/20090713/jackson_michael.jhtml
http://www.accesshollywood.com/michael-jackson/michael-jackson-adviser-dr-tohme-tohme-breaks-silence-to-talk-about-his-friend_article_20158
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31740617/ns/entertainment-music/#storyContinued
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31740617/ns/entertainment-music/page/2/now this guy makes me open my eyes on who jackson really was and that ppl were tryin to hurt him
http://www.flipkart.com/fade-black-douglas-b-jones/1436352738-uox3f42f2d is not the cheif that worked for michael?
Dear The Divine Mrs Jones
I really don’t know if i should believe in what you say, even thought i truly want to……..
But i go a question,
if he’s not dead than why is Latoya always saying that she knows who killed michael?????
if he was still alive wouldn’t they simply be quite????? Not pushing too musch atention from the media?
if he was still alive shouldn’t his kids by now be with me?
What about those updates where they say michael had needle marks in his neck, how would they make that up????
To bo honest as time goes by my hopes that michael is still alive keeps geting smaller. What proves that he’s still alive????
However,
Dear The Divine Mrs. Jones if it’s true that you can hear taht voice and that Dave guy can’t “see” spirits, i want to ask you one thing:
If he’s still alive, is he alright?is he sick?is he safe? is he happy now?
I’m sorry but there’s more than what meets the eye. To the administrator thanks for this site. When the imposter was at the press conference, not one time did the family step up and say “that’s not Michael.” And don’t tell me that the Jackson family doesn’t know about all the hoax rumors going on saying that Michaek is alive, and yet still no response? Something isn’t right.
And then they have Latoya coming out saying all this stuff about her brother being murdered and that millions dollars and costly jewelry were missing from his home. Now correct me if I’m wrong but how the hell would she know what was missing in his home? Can someone answer that?
Then she said his kids wanted to see their father when he died at the hospital and that his face was covered up with a towel. Ok, unless something changed over the years, someone who dies doesn’t get covered until the medical examiner comes in and take the body and asks everyone in the room to leave. And since when they cover your face with a towel.
I agree with who ever said they’re glad they Latoya isn’t their sister. I feel the same way.
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1615735/20090713/jackson_michael.jhtml
Hope this opens up. Read it and see what you think. The Channel 4 documentary states that MJ did NOT know he was to do 50 gigs until it was too late. The tickets were printed and sold in a flash. AEG jumped on the financial bandwagon and this poor bloke had to turn up, perform and smile like a puppet. Well, it seems that the puppet cut the strings before the puppet masters could dictate the dance. I also think that Joe Jackson is quietly enjoting his new found fame.
Earlier someone mentioned the “Escape” song from the album “Invincible” I have checked out the lyrics and get this, in one line it says – quote -”Don’t have a place to run, but there’s no need to hide” And in another it says – quote -”Gotta get away (tell my Mother)I gotta get away” Is there a message in there somewhere. MJ’s Mother hailed from Alabama I think…maybe there’s family there who would take him in?????
In a BBC documentary about 4 years ago MJ was asked, while looking at a replica of an Egyptian sarcophagos that was covered in gold leaf – very elaborate – “Would you like to be buried in one of these” MJ ponders for a moment and answers “I’d like to live forever”
If you take the Peter Pan stories literally, and if you’ve read them, Peters friend was a girl called Wendy. Wendy grows up and Peter is the perpetual child, remaining in Neverland. He goes back to Wendy’s house and is shocked to find that she is a woman, and has a daughter of her own. Peter wants Wendy to be his Mother. He has been searching for his Mother throughout the whole story. Peter returns to take Wendy’s granddaughter Margaret back to Neverland to do the spring cleaning…When he remembers!!!!
Maybe the perpetual child that is Mj has returned to Neverland. Maybe the pull of the place that he loved so much was just too great for him to resist.
By the way. If “they” turn Neverland into a place of pilgrimage I will start taking prescription meds…LOL The audacity of it all.
The only good thing about Joe Jackson being on TV is that I can turn him off….LOL AGAIN
That was interresting. More proof that this so called “Death” Of Michael is a hoax
My youngest – Benjamin – the house philosopher – has just said to me “Why don’t we give people like him their ’space’” You can only slice a loaf so many times before it runs out. He has a point. We, the “fans” should back down. Although we enjoy what the entertainer is providing us with, there is an aspect of their lives that you really would not swap. He couldn’t enjoy being in a crowd without being swamped with well wishers. He couldn’t go shopping without about 20 people with him. His kids couldn’t go to a regular school because of who he is, imagine how much of that would effect you, and then think of how it effected him. I, personally, would want to run away.
If I found him, I would not tell any one where he was, I’d let him be. Knowing he was OK would be enough for me.
More profound stuff from Benjamin. He’s been watching me type this….Got to go to school soon hun! He has just said….Could he be hiding out at Althorp Estate…Princess Dianas family home. He and she had a “relationship” that was based solely on friendship. Their parallel lives could only be understood by them. I have to allow him his say because he thinks outside the box, whixh is what we want. To understand a child, you have to think like one!!!!!! And where does a child supposedly feel safe….HOME…..
Mr/Mrs Administrator… May I ask the question, where abouts in the world are you situated. This time difference is giving me a head ache…You are 8 hours ahead of me. That means, where you are I have already had my job interview….Did I get it? LOL and, here’s a thought…If you are 8 hours ahead you can get the lottery numbers for me before they have even been drawn…So whats next Saturday’s winning 6 LOL AGAIN
In regard to the headache…sorry but don’t think we can help with that…if we could fix it we would
Yes we are ahead of you, but want to keep our location to ourselves if that’s ok…trying to keep the nasty non-believers at bay and deter them from banging on the door in the middle of the night with pitchforks and torches (we’ve had plenty of nasty messages from people such as this already believe me), but in regard to the lottery numbers, I’ve had enough trouble getting them right myself! Good luck with yours 
MJHD Admin
I can appreciate your need for anomimity. I really CANNOT understand why people would be so nasty to you. If they were followers of MJ and believed the things that he stood for, then this would not be happening to you.
Maybe I am being silly, but you know when you get a gut feeling about someone, and you can’t shake it off!!! Well with regards to MJ’s “death” it’s not sitting right with me. I don’t have the empty and hollow feeling I got when my parents died, or when my friend was murdered (her name was Caroline and she was beaten to death by a bus driver, who dumped her body) I knew she had gone before they found her because I felt physically sick….Now, if I am to use this as a guage, then I do firmly believe that he is still living because I don’t feel anything like I have felt in the past. No hollow feeling, no sick feeling…..in fact, if I were truly honest, I feel elated…I feel that he is where he wants to be and that the “death” thing was a hoax.
I mentioned in an earlier posting that I had been studying the so called “last photo” of him, he doesn’t look ill or dead. No palour, his face looks fairly relaxed, in fact he looks better in the back of the ambulance than I have seen him look recently. Hell, he looked better than I do this morning….I look like death warmed up. LOL….To end with a little black humour, my husbands late Grandmother – Hilda – used to say to us “I’m knocking on deaths door you know” (she was in her 90’s) One day I said that he can’t have been in because she was still with us, but went on to say ‘What colour it was?’, she never mentioned it again. Bless you Hilda LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv9lL-Lyu2A&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3sYg8fhNoI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miBfwWHSmb8&NR=1
The lyrics are very “telling” Take a listen…..
http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/07/14/michael-jackson-must-be-saved-from-ghoulish-fans-115875-21517930/
This page may disappear becuse it’s today’s Daily Mirror. Basically it’s saying that MJ’s body was kept in Berry Gory’s family crypt until the police were satisfied that they had covered all avenues of enquiry. They cannot bury him yet – apparently!!!!! It says that thousands of fans have flocked to the crypt because word has just leaked out about it…..I heard about it last week, just after the so called funeral.
The coffin looks like an oversized jewellery box. It’s a bit tacky…The man had more taste than this…..surely. I still think it’s a transformer….Decept a coffin – transforms into Posh Spices matching luggage.LOL
OK…I have just watched the footage of the helicopter taking the “body” to a waiting van…
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/showbiz/2009/06/25/von.jackson.body.transport.kabc?iref=videosearch
Dead bodies weigh a ton….no matter how large. they just lifted this one without much effort….were was the rigour mortice???? He should have been as stiff as a board, not flopping around Hummmmmmmmmm!!!!!
It doesn’t appear to me to be a dead body on the trolley….way too thin…It’s just a shape, not like a dead person at all. Strange stuff, I am more convinced the more I read and look into it that it is a hoax. Some one commented that his new album was going to be called “Resurrection” co-incidence!!!!
That turned out to be a lie. That Gary dude said so himself
Sorry “BelovedMJ” What turned out to be a lie. I’ve put so many comments on that I am not sure which one you are referring to.
Ok, back to rigor mortis….I am now an expert in the field. Now, depending on temperatures etc Rigor Mortis can set in as early as 10 minutes post mortem, up to about 2 hours…Full Rigor is reached at about 12 hours and it can last around 72 hours, or 3 days. Quoting About.com, they say that “Rapid cooling can inhibit the onset of Rigor Mortis” If my memory serves me well, the day that MJ died it was about 33 degrees – give or take, it was HOT – Rigor would not be inhibited. After death the skeletal muscles contract and are unable to relax, hence the body becoming as stiff as a board, heavy and unable to bend. Now, it’s the word BEND that is the magic one. Even if someone moved the body in the helicopter, if they were dead as long as MJ was supposed to be, it could not have been bent, if you watch the footage closely when the body is wheeled over to the van, the two men inside just lift the body from one trolley to another it looks like the body bends at the knees!!! Maybe it’s just my imagination, but take a look and see if see what I saw.
My kids watched the helicopter footage earlier and passed this comment. Considering who the body was supposed to be, and considering the whole episode was being filmed, they did not treat the body with any dignity and unceremoniously dumped it from one trolley to another inside the back of the van. Knowing that the eyes of the world would be watching you would have thought that the men involved at this point would have, at the very least, proceeded with a little more reverence.
I wonder? Is this why they keep postponing the custody hearing for his children?
To The Divine Mrs. Jones: Your children are very observant, and you are right,(in my own words
) it does seem as if the men are just dumping and passing along a “rag doll” to each other. It even looks as “the body” when being handed down from the helicopter as if the head bumps onto the gurney?
“It doesn’t appear to me to be a dead body on the trolley….way too thin…It’s just a shape, not like a dead person at all.” you are right about that! It looks as if they are carrying a stick or something. Now, I think Michael was a thin man but too be as thin as it appeared to have been there? I just don’t know!
I also have a friend who states to be able to perceive when someone’s spirit has passed along and she like your friend does not feel in any way MJ’s spirit to have passed??? I do think that if he is with us, he needs time to get himself together, and get well. I can only imagine all the pressures he must have had, poor soul!
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