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New story from TMZ … in the doctor’s bed …

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11:47 pm
July 30, 2009


mac5k

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Jackson Spent Last Hours in Doctor's Bed

The reports that Michael Jackson spent the last night in his bedroom are not true — we've learned Jackson spent his last hours in Dr. Conrad Murray's bedroom … in Dr. Murray's bed.

Multiple law enforcement sources tell us Jackson did not want people going in and out of his room, so he used Dr. Murray's bedroom for his IV Propofol. We're told Dr. Murray administered the Propofol to Jackson hours before he died, while the singer lay in Murray's bed.

Law enforcement believes Dr. Murray may have been using his room almost nightly to administer Propofol to Jackson. Emergency workers found an IV stand, an empty IV bag and oxygen tanks in Dr. Murray's room. And as we first reported, the Monday after Jackson died, cops found a stash of Propofol and other drugs hidden in a closet connected to Dr. Murray's room.

We've already reported Dr. Murray left the room at some point when Jackson was receiving an IV drip of Propofol and may have fallen asleep. Cops believe by the time he awakened Jackson's heart may have already stopped beating.

We're told Dr. Murray was not in Jackson's house during the day. He would show up in the evening and leave in the morning. Law enforcement believes the doctor may have regularly gone to Jackson's home at night to administer Propofol so the singer could sleep.

Law enforcement believes Dr. Murray could have discovered Jackson sometime around 9 AM the day of his death. One theory cops are working under … after discovering Jackson either in distress or dead, Dr. Murray called two employees at his medical office in Houston and told them to go to his storage unit and remove certain boxes. Both women told TMZ Dr. Murray did not call them but cops are dubious. The stories of the two women conflict — one says a box of dirty needles was retrieved; the other says she went to retrieve a chair.

As for what may have been in the boxes, law enforcement is investigating whether Dr. Murray had Propofol delivered to his Houston medical office … possibly put in his storage unit … and then FedEx'd to Los Angeles as needed.

Dr. Murray rented the storage unit April 1 and the staff went back on 4 different occasions before Jackson's death.

We know when the DEA raided Dr. Murray's Houston medical office, they seized a rolodex card with FedEx information.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/31/…..d-houston/

11:50 pm
July 30, 2009


Keisha7

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mac5k said:

Jackson Spent Last Hours in Doctor's Bed

The reports that Michael Jackson spent the last night in his bedroom are not true — we've learned Jackson spent his last hours in Dr. Conrad Murray's bedroom … in Dr. Murray's bed.

Multiple law enforcement sources tell us Jackson did not want people going in and out of his room, so he used Dr. Murray's bedroom for his IV Propofol. We're told Dr. Murray administered the Propofol to Jackson hours before he died, while the singer lay in Murray's bed.

Law enforcement believes Dr. Murray may have been using his room almost nightly to administer Propofol to Jackson. Emergency workers found an IV stand, an empty IV bag and oxygen tanks in Dr. Murray's room. And as we first reported, the Monday after Jackson died, cops found a stash of Propofol and other drugs hidden in a closet connected to Dr. Murray's room.

We've already reported Dr. Murray left the room at some point when Jackson was receiving an IV drip of Propofol and may have fallen asleep. Cops believe by the time he awakened Jackson's heart may have already stopped beating.

We're told Dr. Murray was not in Jackson's house during the day. He would show up in the evening and leave in the morning. Law enforcement believes the doctor may have regularly gone to Jackson's home at night to administer Propofol so the singer could sleep.

Law enforcement believes Dr. Murray could have discovered Jackson sometime around 9 AM the day of his death. One theory cops are working under … after discovering Jackson either in distress or dead, Dr. Murray called two employees at his medical office in Houston and told them to go to his storage unit and remove certain boxes. Both women told TMZ Dr. Murray did not call them but cops are dubious. The stories of the two women conflict — one says a box of dirty needles was retrieved; the other says she went to retrieve a chair.

As for what may have been in the boxes, law enforcement is investigating whether Dr. Murray had Propofol delivered to his Houston medical office … possibly put in his storage unit … and then FedEx'd to Los Angeles as needed.

Dr. Murray rented the storage unit April 1 and the staff went back on 4 different occasions before Jackson's death.

We know when the DEA raided Dr. Murray's Houston medical office, they seized a rolodex card with FedEx information.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/31/…..d-houston/


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1. Defibrillator

A defibrillator can save a person’s life if it is used immediately after a patient has experienced a heart attack, or is unconsciousness with poor vital signs.  These have been installed in many airlines and public places.  Eve flight attendants are now trained to defib a person who has lost consciousness, has a faint pulse or none, and has shallow breathing.  You may or may not know that Michael Jackson was quite informed about medicine in general.  When his son, Prince Michael, was born with breathing difficulties, Michael Jackson ensured that the air quality in Prince Michael’s room was tested on an HOURLY basis.  He was extremely concerned about infections and spread of germs, so all the utensils utilized to feed his children were immediately discarded after ONE use.  Not only that, but he also ensured that any toys his children played with during the day would be discarded at night, and new ones be brought in for the following day.  One of the reasons that Michael Jackson wore a mask in public was also to prevent infections and air-borne illnesses.  In fact, it was even reported that Michael Jackson attended a medical conference and asked researchers performing cloning further information about their work.  Given all this, it comes as a surprise to me to know that Dr. Murray did NOT defib Michael Jackson.  The controversy around this is that in initial reports by EMT medics, it was said that they HAD seen a defibrillator in Michael Jackson’s house.  However, it was not used or that there was a problem with it.  Further reports came out denying that the EMTs had seen the defibrillator.  The questions of the hour are: Why WAS a CARDIOLOGIST hired for Michael Jackson 11 days prior to his ‘death’?  If a cardiologist was hired – wouldn’t that mean that the mulitmillionaire King of Pop, whose close friend is Deepak Chopra, also have purchased a defibrillator???  Did this cardiologist NOT know how to use the defib?  Why the discrepancy between the initial reports of the EMTs having seen the defib and later reports of them denying this??  The thought that Michael Jackson did NOT have a defibrillator present in his house does not even cross my mind, since he was medically informed, regularly frequented hospitals, and actively sought to avoid illnesses and target his own personal health care. 


2. Place of Michael Jackson’s ‘Death’

Let’s say that a person does die – how can there be so much discrepancy over the place of death?  If it happened in the living room then it happened in the living room – simple!  But when it comes to Michael Jackson, its just another ’story’.  Latoya Jackson claimed that Michael Jackson had walked to the doctor’s room, and was found unconscious there.  Meanwhile other reports claim that Michael Jackson was found unconscious in his own bedroom.  Finally, other reports claim that Michael Jackson had collapsed in his living room and was carried over to his own bedroom by a guard.  How can there be so MANY differing accounts of where Michael Jackson lost consciousness?  Is it that under stress, people made errors in reporting what they had been told to do so?  If THEY had SEEN IT, then surely they would have been able to recount it, and we would not see this discrepancy.  Or were these accounts tossed at the public to cause confusion so that the public would be led astray?


3.  Requesting 911 services for Michael Jackson

Okay, lets say that a defibrillator is not present, then being a cardiologist and finding Michael Jackson unconscious, Dr. Murray should have rushed to call 911.   This was NOT the case.  In some reports, Conrad Murray claims that there was NO ONE around, and that he found Michael Jackson in his bedroom.   He didn’t know what to do, and proceeded to do CPR.  Finally, he screamed for someone to come. It was Michael Jackson’s chef who came and placed the infamous 911 call to request for help.  But even in that call, note the lack of distress and tension…this employee of Michael Jackson was way too calm.  It has been claimed that voice analysis was done for this phone call, but distress could not be detected.  Although in the background, you can hear the doctor sounding very panicked.  Odd, isn’t it?  Now remember the second account claiming that Michael Jackson had collapsed in his living room?  A guard lifted him to the bedroom where supposedly CPR was done.  So SOMEONE was definitely around, and the story falls through the cracks again.  Why didn’t the doctor just ask the guard to call 911?  Finally, it has been said that Prince Michael was present and had seen his ‘father’ being resuscitated.  Now even for this report, there are 2 accounts.  The first is that Prince Michael had seen his father collapse in the living room and followed him to the bedroom.  The second is that Dr. Conrad Murray wanted to show his son that he had attempted to revive his father, so he left the body, brought the boy to his father’s bedroom and then performed CPR.  Either way, if no one else was available, why didn’t Prince Michael call for help?? He is certainly old enough.  There are so many reports of 6 year old kids dialing for help, so why couldn’t Prince Michael who is a 12 year old?  And lets say that if he indeed see Michael Jackson being resuscitated, why did he look like he was so bored to be at the funeral and was devoid of emotions?  Its tough to imagine that such a young child would be so heartless, if you had seen your parent die in front of your eyes, there is no way that a child could restrain emotions.  Remember Princess Diana’s funeral procession?  Both Prince William and Harry had eyes and faces full of tears, although they still tried to maintain composure.  Unlike Prince Michael, who was too busy chewing gum.  


4.  Michael Jackson’s 911 Call

Michael Jackson’s doctor claimed that he could not place a call to ask for help for various reasons.  One is that Dr. Murray was too busy performing CPR, and could not stop.  But yet, one news report mentions that the doctor called Joe Jackson, told him that Michael Jackson was not responsive and he didn’t know what to do.  Joe Jackson advised the doctor to call 911 right away.  Then Dr. Murray claims that Michael Jackson’s house did not have landlines present, so he could not call out.  But what about his cell phone?  Eventually there was the 911 call placed, so obviously it was possible to make a phone call.  Finally, who was Conrad Murray talking to when the 911 call was placed.  You can hear only his voice in the background, so was he calling someone…on his cell phone?  Why didn’t he just call 911 with his own cell phone then???


4. Security Tapes from The Day of Michael Jackson’s Death

It has been reported that the house Michael Jackson resided in had 24-hour camera surveillance, both indoors and outdoors. Mysteriously, the tapes from the day of the death have disappeared.  The Los Angeles Police Department has been searching for these, but to no avail.  Remember that Janet and Latoya Jackson went to clear out Michael Jackson’s belongings the day  after his death was announced?  Perhaps during this time, they removed these.  Now even stranger are reports that Michael Jackson’s bedroom was found messy and had his clothes strewn everywhere, as well as sticky notes on walls.  But, Michael Jackson’s sisters had said that they had removed ALL of his belongings even before the LAPD had declared that they were going to do a homicide investigation.  Pictures showed that even bedsheets and blankets were removed from Michael Jackson’s house 1 day after his death, as requested as by his sisters.  So where did these clothes and notes come from, that the LAPD found?  Also, reports now say that IV stands and oxygen tanks filled his bedroom, so why didn’t the sisters also remove these?  Or were these planted in the bedroom, after the fact?  


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Movers emptying Michael Jackson's rented house – http://michaeljacksonnotdead.w…..dpress.com


4. Dr. Murray’s Storage Boxes 

Recent reports indicate that Dr. Conrad Murray had stored boxes in a storage facility, which were removed after the ‘death’ of Michael Jackson.  The contents of these boxes are not known.  What is known is that 2 women removed these boxes.  The storage facility was also monitored by camera surveillance, but guess what?  Surprisingly, on the day of that these women took away these boxes, the camera surveillance system ‘was not working’.  Coincidence, I think not.  As to the identity of these women or the contents of these boxes – only the Jackson family can provide answers.  


5.  Michael Jackson’s Employees Fired Within Minutes

Within 30-minutes from the confirmation that Michael Jackson had ‘passed-away’, all of his personal employees were fired by AEG.   Rather then reacting to the death of Michael Jackson, AEG very methodically fired his staff – within minutes.  It would make sense if this had happened on the following day or even a few days later, but not within minutes.   It almost seems as though this was pre-planned, and that there were a certain numbers of steps to follow in staging this death.  Of course by firing these employees, it would be easier to get access to the security tapes, stage the oxygen tanks and IV stands, throw things around the bedroom, and create the stage for this hoax, since there will be no witnesses.   Also note that days before his ‘death’, Michael Jackson’s employees were not allowed to enter his bedroom.  So no one would know whether he had in fact been taking the drugs or not, nor provide any accounts of seeing the lack or presence of oxygen tanks and IV equipment in his bedroom.  


6.  Conrad Murray was Michael Jackson’s Cardiologist for  ONLY ELEVEN (11) DAYS

In order for AEG to get insurance for Michael Jackson’s O2 Concert dates, it was required that Michael Jackson undergo a complete physical.  In fact, his cardiac or heart function was assessed for 4 hours with various tests, and it is said that he ‘passed with flying colors’.  A couple month’s later, AEG hires a cardiologist for Michael Jackson – this is 11 days before his death.  Again, for the King of Pop, they don’t hire an amazing cardiologist such as Mehmet Oz.  No, they hire a cardiologist with a shady past – he had defaulted on loans, needed money ASAP, was desperate for the job, had lots of financial problems.  What does this portray – simply the image of an irresponsible or reckless individual.  Anything goes wrong the first finger pointed will be at him.  Whoever hired him knew all this too well, and had actually gone out searching for someone that would fit this profile.  Remember also that conveniently, the insurance purchased by concert promoters was not for natural death of Michael Jackson, rather it was for accidental death – which included drug abuse.  Convenient but coincidental? No.  Conrad Murray had no information on who his patient Michael Jackson was.  He had never probably met him before nor examined him.  So, the man that Conrad Murray was introduced to was probably NOT Michael Jackson.  Rather, he met an extremely ill impostor, while the real Michael Jackson had already fled, and those performing on stage were his doubles.  This may sound far-fetched, but really it is not. I will post further information on the person who DID die shortly, in an independent post.  The only victim of this hoax is Dr. Conrad Murray.  He is being framed for a series of events that he probably does not even understand himself.  

I will go more in-depth on this, in a following post.

11:53 pm
July 30, 2009


bec

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I guess just being anesthized isn't enough. The media just has to figure out some way to be able to run a headline that says “Michael Jackson Found Dead In Another Man's Bed”.

What do you think about that, Give.It.To.Me?

11:59 pm
July 30, 2009


Peace

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The forum is back! I thought everyone knew that he was in Dr.Murray's room.

Stranger in Moscow

12:05 am
July 31, 2009


BelieverAngel90

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I had no idea that he was In Dr. Murray's Bedroom … so someone is lying in this …. I bet on the Bodyguard or the Doc.

“Michael … I understand … I am sad I never got to talk to you … like a normal person.” *Sweet Sweet Earth Angel A.K.A. Michael*

12:28 am
July 31, 2009


eva05

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@ Keisha: this is interesting, post this as a separate thread so we can find it later

4:11 am
July 31, 2009


InnerDemon

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Keisha7 said:

6.  Conrad Murray was Michael Jackson’s Cardiologist for  ONLY ELEVEN (11) DAYS

[...] So, the man that Conrad Murray was introduced to was probably NOT Michael Jackson.  Rather, he met an extremely ill impostor, while the real Michael Jackson had already fled, and those performing on stage were his doubles.  This may sound far-fetched, but really it is not. I will post further information on the person who DID die shortly, in an independent post.  The only victim of this hoax is Dr. Conrad Murray.  He is being framed for a series of events that he probably does not even understand himself.  


When Michael had already fled who did the rehearsals and why does that guy look so much like Michael? Or was the tape we've seen from before those 11 days? Why didn't any of his staff notice it's not him? Or did they know? Wouldn't that be very risky? The more ppl involved the harder to keep it a secret.

“Lies run sprints, but the truth runs marathons.”

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