Michael Jackson Hoax Death

Guys something i want to point out, It is really MJ in the ambulance but it is not the  50 yrs old MJ but simply the  36 yrs old MJ in 1995 when he was taken to the hospital, he was not dead , and they had to give him oxygen, he was semi conscious, and when you are semi concious they give you oxygen and practice C.P.R

as you can see mj is frowning, on this picture cause he was feeling uncomfortable,

i guess OK magazine got screwed, OUT OF $ 500.000 i think they photoshopped the LAFD badges  to make it  look alike it is the pic cause there is not way you can take a pic out  of that dark tainted window.

i called them the magazine about the pic and asked them question, another friends of mine did the same , she sent them the pics with explanation and they got  mad i guess cause they never called back not emailed back.

 the paramedics were telling the truth, about the old frail skinny and sickly man,  but whoever died in that bed it wasn't MJ cause the coroner's is still looking for evidence  of what killed MJ this is why i am not jumping to conclusion saying that Propofol killed MJ cause the coroner keeps on delaying the results, and he is still looking for evidence, well !

it is the DEA AND FED OR POLICE TO GO GET THE EVIDENCE at the doctor's office not the coroner, to me  if the coroner does the search himself, it is because, the body he autopsied is not MJ but someone else, but they jumped already saying that the doctor confessed, and since the media took the news that was pooped on their desk and ran with it , they are too embarrassed to  say that the body ain't MJ.

well ! obviously they said Murray confessed, he gave propofol to MJ  well ! he didn't cause the coroner is still searching ! for what exactly killed that man,

or is  the coroner still searching for positive id of the body?

cause if it was propofol,  and the body was MJ we wouldn't have the coroner looking everywhere for what  killed MJ and who the hell is on hill cutting table. and this case would be closed a long time, but since the autopsy results keep on getting  delayed, then i wouldn't be surprised if they buy a result with propofol on it lol !

this is America you can buy anything even an autopsy result, cause in America MONEY TALKS , AND BULLSHIT WALKS. 

Post edited 8:35 pm – July 30, 2009 by mjlives

yeah give.in.to.me brought this possibility up in another thread, I'm not sure what happened to it. even if the pic is recent though I think MJ was alive in it, his skin was not pale/blue and he had a vein popping out on his forhead which can't happen if the heart had stopped pumping

MJ or whomever it was in the mansion was dead, already the paramedics don't take your body to the hospital, nut the  coroner comes and get the body,

MJ looked younger on this picture, way younger, this pic was taken in 1995 i am pretty sure.

If the paramedics said he was dead when they arrived, then he was, dead,  they wouldn't give oxigen to a dead body,

whoever was in this ambulance wasn't an old, frail skinny sickly man, cause this  MJ looks young in this picture for sure.

Keisha7 said:

Guys something i want to point out, It is really MJ in the ambulance but it is not the  50 yrs old MJ but simply the  36 yrs old MJ in 1995 when he was taken to the hospital, he was not dead , and they had to give him oxygen, he was semi conscious, and when you are semi concious they give you oxygen and practice C.P.R

as you can see mj is frowning, on this picture cause he was feeling uncomfortable,

i guess OK magazine got screwed, OUT OF $ 500.000 i think they photoshopped the LAFD badges  to make it  look alike it is the pic cause there is not way you can take a pic out  of that dark tainted window.

i called them the magazine about the pic and asked them question, another friends of mine did the same , she sent them the pics with explanation and they got  mad i guess cause they never called back not emailed back.

 the paramedics were telling the truth, about the old frail skinny and sickly man,  but whoever died in that bed it wasn't MJ cause the coroner's is still looking for evidence  of what killed MJ this is why i am not jumping to conclusion saying that Propofol killed MJ cause the coroner keeps on delaying the results, and he is still looking for evidence, well !

it is the DEA AND FED OR POLICE TO GO GET THE EVIDENCE at the doctor's office not the coroner, to me  if the coroner does the search himself, it is because, the body he autopsied is not MJ but someone else, but they jumped already saying that the doctor confessed, and since the media took the news that was pooped on their desk and ran with it , they are too embarrassed to  say that the body ain't MJ.

well ! obviously they said Murray confessed, he gave propofol to MJ  well ! he didn't cause the coroner is still searching ! for what exactly killed that man,

or is  the coroner still searching for positive id of the body?

cause if it was propofol,  and the body was MJ we wouldn't have the coroner looking everywhere for what  killed MJ and who the hell is on hill cutting table. and this case would be closed a long time, but since the autopsy results keep on getting  delayed, then i wouldn't be surprised if they buy a result with propofol on it lol !

this is America you can buy anything even an autopsy result, cause in America MONEY TALKS , AND BULLSHIT WALKS. 

Thank you, that's exactly what I said. The coroner will get it if it's a 'regular' death. If they might think that there was foul play, they would have the DEA or LAPD get the files all at one

another clue that the chef has given us without even knowing it, she said that 2 days, before his supposed death MJ told her ,

I AM ALL PACKED UP AND READY TO GO.

MJ knew what he was saying when he said  that  he is all packed up and ready to go, the concert was 2 weeks and a half away, you do not get all packed up and ready to go, 2 weeks in advance what if you need you tooth brush and paste, or underwear, you see what i mean ?

also to give you some clue,  after the rehearsal,  MJ went home well ! yeah he did, but  his caravan  left  the home right back out.

did they go to get the luggages ?

and left ? which would explain why there was a delay at LAX IN THE MORNING,

MAYBE THEY STAYED AT THE HOTEL , THEN LEFT EARLY IN THE MORNING, on the 25 th of June.

cause dr Murray arrived at the home early in the morning, and ususally,  MJ comes down to have breafast, but he didn't show up this is when Dr Murray went to see what is going on and found the body .

to me that sickly old body wasn't MJ's  but one of his hundreds of doubles, you only know the most famous ones.

one of them died, and poor Murray either he knew about the plot  or he didn't cause he thought it was MJ he found dead  and was trying to revive.

Post edited 8:58 pm – July 30, 2009 by Keisha7

Like i said maybe Murray knows what is really going on and like i also said the coroner is still searching while the media says that the doc confessed, if the doc confessed then the case is closed right?

 so what is the coroner doing searching for more info?

you see my point?

either propofoil is not what killed this person, or the body is not MJ .

obviously the coroner is not in on the hoax cause he didn't get paid and he is doing the foot work looking for what the hell is going on, If the coroner had gotten paid  ( was in on the hoax ) then he wouldn't sweat himself up looking for information.

supposedly cardiac arrest kill him, then the cause of death was differed,  and now it's propofol, the body is not MJ ,

but they are too embarrassed to say it's not,  those who didn't get paid of course are the ones who are embarrassed.

MJ out smarted them.

also, no signed death cert, means no life insurance cash payout for the family but they don't care,  the estate will pay another way.

 many other ways, they don't need life insurance money. so they don't care.

Post edited 9:26 pm – July 30, 2009 by Keisha7

Murray will not go anywhere.

the coroner is searchin still cause either it is not MJ,  he got the DNA but it is probably not MJ's DNA. he is still searching for dental records,  and other records to match  the DNA that he has with  MJ medical records, or he is searching for what killed the person who was found dead there.

Or he is still searchin' cause propofol is not what killed whoever was found dead in the house.

as the media want to turn MJ into some druggie. whome we know he was not obviously the chef said MJ was into healthy living, not druggie living,

if the coroner cannot come up with what happened, then they might buy an autopsy result, and say propofol Murray did it. since the coroner is still searching, also the UCLA did not confirm  that MJ died Jermaine did, the doc is supposed to come out and say that but Jermaine came out and said it, the doc should have been right behind MJ but he was no where to be seen at the press conference.

also, the chef said that she found a stretcher earlier in the foyer of the mansion that was before the doc came out screaming , it could have been that he brought thebody there early in the morning before the break of dawn,

and forgot  to remove it,

cause surely you can buy dead bodies, this is America.

you can buy body parts, and so can you buy dead bodies.

but i doubt it, lol!

whom is is not.

the Jacksons don't need the insurance money the death cert is done and over with MJ 's memorial  was done all they have to do is bury the body, they will not signe  the DC no more,

an unsigned DC means that you cannot cash in on life insurance payout.

like i said the jacksons don't need it cause the estates is worth enough.

Keisha7 said:

another clue that the chef has given us without even knowing it, she said that 2 days, before his supposed death MJ told her ,

I AM ALL PACKED UP AND READY TO GO.

MJ knew what he was saying when he said  that  he is all packed up and ready to go, the concert was 2 weeks and a half away, you do not get all packed up and ready to go, 2 weeks in advance what if you need you tooth brush and paste, or underwear, you see what i mean ?

also to give you some clue,  after the rehearsal,  MJ went home well ! yeah he did, but  his caravan  left  the home right back out.

did they go to get the luggages ?

and left ? which would explain why there was a delay at LAX IN THE MORNING,

MAYBE THEY STAYED AT THE HOTEL , THEN LEFT EARLY IN THE MORNING, on the 25 th of June.

cause dr Murray arrived at the home early in the morning, and ususally,  MJ comes down to have breafast, but he didn't show up this is when Dr Murray went to see what is going on and found the body .

to me that sickly old body wasn't MJ's  but one of his hundreds of doubles, you only know the most famous ones.

one of them died, and poor Murray either he knew about the plot  or he didn't cause he thought it was MJ he found dead  and was trying to revive.

Hi,

Can you pls provide the link to the interview with the chef where she said MJ was all packed and ready to go?

Thanks

it's still not adding up. At least to me.

Murray will not get any charges? If they find out Propofol killed whoeveritwas than he still won't get any charges? But I'm on your side, I don't think thats the reason. But he already confessed he gave him prescription drugs or am I wrong? So why no charges at all? He didn't have a license?!

If they got a DNA-Test, that would proof it is or it's not MJ. End of the Story.

If they family doesnt sign that dc… doesnt that look odd? Why wont they if there isnt anything to hide? That will raise more questions..

You seem pretty sure about your 'facts' and your statements about MJ and his family… makes me wonder why…

InnerDemon said:

it's still not adding up. At least to me.

Murray will not get any charges? If they find out Propofol killed whoeveritwas than he still won't get any charges? But I'm on your side, I don't think thats the reason. But he already confessed he gave him prescription drugs or am I wrong? So why no charges at all? He didn't have a license?!

If they got a DNA-Test, that would proof it is or it's not MJ. End of the Story.

If they family doesnt sign that dc… doesnt that look odd? Why wont they if there isnt anything to hide? That will raise more questions..

You seem pretty sure about your 'facts' and your statements about MJ and his family… makes me wonder why…

If the doc confessed then they would have arrested him a long time ago.

when you confess you are taken to the pen,

if he had confessed then it wouldn't be worth for the coroner to search more  info about what killed this person.

the case would be close right after Murray's confession, and i don't think Murray confessed to anything it's just the media blowing shit out of their asses again.

Post edited 9:34 pm – July 30, 2009 by Sosh

Of course MJ packed his bags if he knew he's going to a hiding place and fake his death. But he may also be a very nervous person and pack his bags two weeks before flying to London. I also read somewhere that he was leaving for London within days after his death (if hed didn't die of course). So those two and a half weeks prior to the first concert, Michael would have been in London.

Besides. I don't think Michael bought his own tooth brush or underwear. He had lots of staff members, remember!

Sosh said:

Of course MJ packed his bags if he knew he's going to a hiding place and fake his death. But he may also be a very nervous person and pack his bags two weeks before flying to London. I also read somewhere that he was leaving for London within days after his death. So those two and a half weeks prior to the first concert, Michael would have been in London.

Besides. I don't think Michael bought his own tooth brush or underwear. He had lots of staff members, remember!

I know but the paps know his staff ususally the bodyguards  go shopping with him, or sometime alone, without him. when they go shopping for him.

MJ is careful, and smart.

Post edited 9:56 pm – July 30, 2009 by Keisha7

Jermaine is strange yes ! i don't think the family want to do a DNA the DNA is not  mandatory,

you can voluntarely do it, or not,

they cannot force the Jacksons to do a DNA test if they don't want to do it,

like i said you can buy a body, but in this case  this body might have been a longtime MJ lookalike who was ill and died of natural causes, since the coroner is still looking for clues it means that whoever died idid not die from popofol cause like i said many time already if it was propofol and according to the media,  (  not know if it's true or not ) Murray confessed to have given propofol, to MJ,

he might have had multiple  surgeries to look almost at least 98% like MJ, might have been in his 50's too, but this wasn't MJ,

the coroner since Murray confessed would have stopped looking for clues,  Murray would have been arrested, already, he is still out, it is because  those who didn't get paid cause they aren't in on the hoax  are looking for clues,

i hope that MJ has covered all the  avenues, cause sometime you think you got everything covered but there is still a little thing missing,

that's all i have to say.

InnerDemon said:

i didnt say he is strange i dont judge people i dont know

you can get get the family to a dna comparison by court order as far as i know. but probably they dont have enough evidence for that.

your theory on the dead body seems very fictional to me. why would someone go thorugh so much pain of all the surgeries instead of enjoying his last days/weeks/months alive. what a coincidence you need to find a terminally ill double that wants to take part in a hoax and dies at the right time.. but, yeah, anything is possible but my head just cant believe it.

youre right on that part about murray. makes sense to me. its too late to just arrest him now.

i agree with you. i hope everything works out fine for him if its for good. but im sure hell have his reasons..

thanks for discussing anyway

Like i said the look alike did not go though multiple surgeries to die, but he might have been a working look alike, many look alike of MJ have gotten plastic surgery to look alike him,

this look alike was someone who was a longtime  impersonator who might have found out he was dying, and decided to get in the hoax who knows, but the paramedic didn;t reconize mj and apparently the coroner don't either, and propofol  is still on the table but nothing can't confirm propofol did it.

so something is going on, I aplaud MJ for that, he did a great Job.

 that's all i will say,

 i have to log off.

Nothing is logic in this story, sorry.

But..have a good day