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The “frail, sickly, old man”, your opinion

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12:14 am
July 31, 2009


bec

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What do you think was the body of the “frail, sickly, old man”?


1. An elaborate wax dummy that Dr. Murray did CPR on and explains why EMTs thought he was long dead.

2. MJ himself in makeup/disguised as frail, old, and sickly playing dead with Dr. Murray doing fake CPR.

or 3. A terminally ill body double who really did die.

4. MJ for real.

What do you think about that, Give.It.To.Me?

12:19 am
July 31, 2009


BelieverAngel90

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bec said:

What do you think was the body of the “frail, sickly, old man”?


1. An elaborate wax dummy that Dr. Murray did CPR on and explains why EMTs thought he was long dead.

2. MJ himself in makeup/disguised as frail, old, and sickly playing dead with Dr. Murray doing fake CPR.

or 3. A terminally ill body double who really did die.

4. MJ for real.


I am going for 3 … sounds logical to me … or I am thinking a bit of 1 as good answer …. I am going for 3.

“Michael … I understand … I am sad I never got to talk to you … like a normal person.” *Sweet Sweet Earth Angel A.K.A. Michael*

12:19 am
July 31, 2009


Give.In.To.Me

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Post edited 5:20 pm – July 31, 2009 by Give.In.To.Me


No way it was MJ, even Lou Ferrigno said he looked good and he was training him just weeks before he died. I don't think a body can deteriorate that quickly. Also, if they wanted people to think of him as sick, old and frail then#1 they should not have released the rehearsal videos and #2 they really need to remember there is an ambulance photo out there(fake or not). I'm so stressed by this mystery that Dr. Murray is looking like a man I need right now.

Can you feel it.. Can you feel it… CAN YOU FEEL IT

12:21 am
July 31, 2009


Keisha7

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bec said:

What do you think was the body of the “frail, sickly, old man”?


1. An elaborate wax dummy that Dr. Murray did CPR on and explains why EMTs thought he was long dead.

2. MJ himself in makeup/disguised as frail, old, and sickly playing dead with Dr. Murray doing fake CPR.

or 3. A terminally ill body double who really did die.

4. MJ for real.


I think it's  terminally ill, double, MJ had hundreds of doubles,  most of them did have plastic surgery to look alike him  cause they  was

doing this as a living, 

12:21 am
July 31, 2009


bec

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I can't decide between 1 and 2. Totally torn.

What do you think about that, Give.It.To.Me?

12:21 am
July 31, 2009


eva05

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Post edited 5:23 pm – July 31, 2009 by eva05


I think it was Michael on the ambulance pic, it's just that the pic is old – 1993-1995 maybe.

Oh I forgot to answer your question: 3

12:21 am
July 31, 2009


Antigone

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bec said:

4. MJ for real.


Maybe this is what we all just don't want to accept??

For there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.

12:23 am
July 31, 2009


Keisha7

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Give.In.To.Me said:

Post edited 5:20 pm – July 31, 2009 by Give.In.To.Me


No way it was MJ, even Lou Ferrigno said he looked good and he was training him just weeks before he died. I don't think a body can deteriorate that quickly. Also, if they wanted people to think of him as sick, old and frail then#1 they should not have released the rehearsal videos and #2 they really need to remember there is an ambulance photo out there(fake or not). I'm so stressed by this mystery that Dr. Murray is looking like a man I need right now.


Ha ha ha ha !!!!!!!!!!!!!! you are very funny. dr is the man you need lol !!!!!!!!!!!! 

12:23 am
July 31, 2009


bec

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Ambulance is a totally different subject. I was considering posting that question as well.


Antigone, that's just the easy answer, but, in all honesty it's the answer that makes the least sense.

What do you think about that, Give.It.To.Me?

12:27 am
July 31, 2009


Antigone

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bec said:

Antigone, that's just the easy answer, but, in all honesty it's the answer that makes the least sense.


Why? There are so many different ways of describing him and his condition. But we just want to hear the “good ones” because they fit so much better in what we WANT to believe.

For there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.

12:31 am
July 31, 2009


Keisha7

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Antigone said:

bec said:

4. MJ for real.


Maybe this is what we all just don't want to accept??


This was MJ in the ambulance but MJ wasn't dead,  it was a pic of him in 1995 when he collapsed  in NJ they photoshopped the badges to make it look alike the pic is recent shot in LA  .

My friend contacted OK MAG about it.  and they never replied they are embarrassed i guess, cause they got screwed. out of

$ 500.000


12:34 am
July 31, 2009


bec

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That's what I think too keisha. I posted a thread about everyone's opinions on the ambulance pics too because they aren't necessarily related to the “body”s description.

What do you think about that, Give.It.To.Me?

12:40 am
July 31, 2009


Keisha7

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bec said:

That's what I think too keisha. I posted a thread about everyone's opinions on the ambulance pics too because they aren't necessarily related to the “body”s description.


when you have  a paramedic who cannot recon MJ and his chef says  he was into healthy living.

so compare the last rehearsal footage, you can see MJ looking visibly good,  and just a few hours later his body look frail sickly  old and skinny ? give me a break !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

12:49 am
July 31, 2009


Moderator

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Keisha7 said:

Antigone said:

bec said:

4. MJ for real.


Maybe this is what we all just don't want to accept??


This was MJ in the ambulance but MJ wasn't dead,  it was a pic of him in 1995 when he collapsed  in NJ they photoshopped the badges to make it look alike the pic is recent shot in LA  .

My friend contacted OK MAG about it.  and they never replied they are embarrassed i guess, cause they got screwed. out of

$ 500.000



Hmmm… Was the red vehicle photoshopped into the picture as well?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..uXRaJFdmKU

“You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.”

12:52 am
July 31, 2009


Keisha7

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Moderator said:

Keisha7 said:

Antigone said:

bec said:

4. MJ for real.


Maybe this is what we all just don't want to accept??


This was MJ in the ambulance but MJ wasn't dead,  it was a pic of him in 1995 when he collapsed  in NJ they photoshopped the badges to make it look alike the pic is recent shot in LA  .

My friend contacted OK MAG about it.  and they never replied they are embarrassed i guess, cause they got screwed. out of

$ 500.000



Hmmm… Was the red vehicle photoshopped into the picture as well?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..uXRaJFdmKU


I think so cause the the ambulance side window is elevated, this red car iis a small car that is not located at the level of the side window.


12:54 am
July 31, 2009


Antigone

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Keisha7 said:


I think so cause the the ambulance side window is elevated, this red car iis a small car that is not located at the level of the side window.



That's a good point!!!

For there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.

12:54 am
July 31, 2009


Keisha7

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Keisha7 said:

Moderator said:

Keisha7 said:

Antigone said:

bec said:

4. MJ for real.


Maybe this is what we all just don't want to accept??


This was MJ in the ambulance but MJ wasn't dead,  it was a pic of him in 1995 when he collapsed  in NJ they photoshopped the badges to make it look alike the pic is recent shot in LA  .

My friend contacted OK MAG about it.  and they never replied they are embarrassed i guess, cause they got screwed. out of

$ 500.000



Hmmm… Was the red vehicle photoshopped into the picture as well?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..uXRaJFdmKU


I think so cause the the ambulance side window is elevated, this red car iis a small car that is not located at the level of the side window.

also like i previously said, Murray was in the ambulance  doing cpr you can see that  murray is black and the Paramedic is  doing CPR is white.



12:58 am
July 31, 2009


InnerDemon

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Keisha7 said:

Keisha7 said:

Moderator said:

Keisha7 said:

Antigone said:

bec said:

4. MJ for real.


Maybe this is what we all just don't want to accept??


This was MJ in the ambulance but MJ wasn't dead,  it was a pic of him in 1995 when he collapsed  in NJ they photoshopped the badges to make it look alike the pic is recent shot in LA  .

My friend contacted OK MAG about it.  and they never replied they are embarrassed i guess, cause they got screwed. out of

$ 500.000



Hmmm… Was the red vehicle photoshopped into the picture as well?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..uXRaJFdmKU


I think so cause the the ambulance side window is elevated, this red car iis a small car that is not located at the level of the side window.

also like i previously said, Murray was in the ambulance  doing cpr you can see that  murray is black and the Paramedic is  doing CPR is white.




Yeah, the car in the pic doesnt make sense at all. it was not even on that side of the street…

“Lies run sprints, but the truth runs marathons.”

1:28 am
July 31, 2009


Give.In.To.Me

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Canada

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“Yeah, the car in the pic doesnt make sense at all. it was not even on that side of the street…”

The photograpgh should have had the reflections of the trees  not the ground BUT the car is definately on the right side of the street. The car was parked at the curb to the right of the ambulance as it pulled out. On the actual videos you can see the red car.

in the following video pause it at 1:33-this should be our reflection. And at 1:36-1:38-there's the red car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..uXRaJFdmKU

Can you feel it.. Can you feel it… CAN YOU FEEL IT

1:33 am
July 31, 2009


Anna.K

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I think there should be Option Number 5 : The “source” that says that about the paramedics is lying. 

I mean, we don't know where that info came from, it was from Mr. “unnamed source” ; the paramedics didn't come forward to say that.

“With such confusions, don’t it make you wanna scream ?”

1:34 am
July 31, 2009


Keisha7

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Anna.K said:

I think there should be Option Number 5 : The “source” that says that about the paramedics is lying. 

I mean, we don't know where that info came from, it was from Mr. “unnamed source” ; the paramedics didn't come forward to say that.


It was on TMZ  they said they didn't recon him .


1:36 am
July 31, 2009


Anna.K

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Paris, France

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Keisha7 said:

Anna.K said:

I think there should be Option Number 5 : The “source” that says that about the paramedics is lying. 

I mean, we don't know where that info came from, it was from Mr. “unnamed source” ; the paramedics didn't come forward to say that.


It was on TMZ  they said they didn't recon him .



Yeah, but TMZ didn't even say that the “paramedics told us that….” ; they said “an unnamed source told that paramedics didn't even recognize…”

“With such confusions, don’t it make you wanna scream ?”

1:41 am
July 31, 2009


Keisha7

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Keisha7 said:

Anna.K said:

I think there should be Option Number 5 : The “source” that says that about the paramedics is lying. 

I mean, we don't know where that info came from, it was from Mr. “unnamed source” ; the paramedics didn't come forward to say that.


It was on TMZ  they said they didn't recon him .


http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/27/…..e-arrived/



1:51 am
July 31, 2009


badkolo

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ok here i go

in that pic he is head first into the ambulance

but when he gets out he gets out head first

that pic in ambulance is from side window

so his head is in the back of the am,bulance, when he gets out he gets out head first

the hospital shot proves it


TMZ-Michael had a 3 foot tail sources claim

1:59 am
July 31, 2009


badkolo

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http://www.radaronline.com/pho…..cal-center

look he comes out head first, in ambulance pic he went in head first.

TMZ-Michael had a 3 foot tail sources claim

2:40 am
July 31, 2009


Antigone

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badkolo said:

http://www.radaronline.com/pho…..cal-center

look he comes out head first,


I can't see that in the mentioned pics?

For there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.

2:52 am
July 31, 2009


badkolo

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they are all concentrating on the front of the body rolling into the door, the guy on the right that looks like dr.murray is looking towards the head of michael, if thats the case he came out head first

in the ambulance pick he would have come out leg first.


nowlook at the pics in the link, they wouldnt all be looking ta his feet right. they are looking at his head as described by the guy that looks like dr.murray

TMZ-Michael had a 3 foot tail sources claim

2:52 am
July 31, 2009


Thetruth

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badkolo said:

http://www.radaronline.com/pho…..cal-center

look he comes out head first, in ambulance pic he went in head first.


The stretcher is eleveted where his head is, so he came out in the same direction as the ambulance pic

Love you Michael from the bottom of my heart!

2:54 am
July 31, 2009


badkolo

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all 3 pics they all look towards the front of the stretcher, they are looking towards his head.

meaniong he came out head first, he didnt go in head first in the ambulance pic if it was taken from the side window

TMZ-Michael had a 3 foot tail sources claim

2:54 am
July 31, 2009


Thetruth

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Dr. Murray hasnt even step out of the veicle in that pitchure.  You see the bodyguard who is holding up a jacket, in other shots you can see a black man stepping out of the ambulance he is Dr Conrad murray

Love you Michael from the bottom of my heart!

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