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10:35 pm July 22, 2009
| Annieisnotokey
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Post edited 3:35 pm – July 23, 2009 by Annieisnotokey
Hello everybody!
Although I’ve been following this Forum since the very beginning (I actually found the website before it even had one), this is the first post I’m writing.
I just found this piece of news and I wanted to share it with you all:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.co…..icate.html
I particularly find the following paragraph to be quite odd:
“Harvey said he learned that coroner’s employees were inappropriately accessing Jackson’s death certificate after he received a tip alleging that a funeral home employee created a fake death certificate for Jackson in the computer system”
Although it goes on saying that the fake death certificate allegations are untrue, it is highly suspicious that even one of the few things that we were all counting to be factual (even though it was not yet signed), is also under suspicion. (The plot thickens!)
Furthermore, the article goes on saying:
“In addition to issues with the electronic access to Jackson’s death certificate, Harvey said that his office also had trouble securing two other computer systems in which they kept Jackson’s death investigation reports.”
Shamon! Gimme a break!
As many of you have already said this whole thing is the best death hoax ever pulled or the worst and sloppiest investigation of a possible criminal case.
What do you all think?
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10:40 pm July 22, 2009
| BelieverAngel90
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Hell Yeah … I said this … this is so irony on my part – ” they will do everything possible to not show evidence to His autospy” … I said that July 2nd and so funny I am LMAO on this right now.
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10:40 pm July 22, 2009
| Miss Dahmer
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that is really really interesting… wouldn't surprise me if it WAS fake, though!
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10:43 pm July 22, 2009
| Give.In.To.Me
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…and just a slap on the wrist for the unauthorized people who viewed it with a simple “destroy it”. Come on!
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Can you feel it..
Can you feel it…
CAN YOU FEEL IT |
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10:44 pm July 22, 2009
| Miss Dahmer
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Give.In.To.Me said:
…and just a slap on the wrist for the unauthorized people who viewed it with a simple “destroy it”. Come on!
I think you meant to say 'sha mown!' hahahaha
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10:46 pm July 22, 2009
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Just when I think that nothing will add to the strangeness already surrounding MJ's “death”, something else comes along…
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10:46 pm July 22, 2009
| murderotica
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omg how stupid do they think we are?
what will happen next? No autopsy reports will be available because someone hacked the computer? BS BS BS
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10:46 pm July 22, 2009
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Shamon! Gimme a break!
lol. am i the only one who chuckled from that
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10:50 pm July 22, 2009
| Give.In.To.Me
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Miss Dahmer said:
Give.In.To.Me said:
…and just a slap on the wrist for the unauthorized people who viewed it with a simple “destroy it”. Come on!
I think you meant to say 'sha mown!' hahahaha
LoL…yes, actually I did!
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Can you feel it..
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CAN YOU FEEL IT |
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10:51 pm July 22, 2009
| Miss Dahmer
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roxy101 said:
Shamon! Gimme a break!
lol. am i the only one who chuckled from that
I did! I did! hahahaha
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10:53 pm July 22, 2009
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Give.In.To.Me said:
Miss Dahmer said:
Give.In.To.Me said:
…and just a slap on the wrist for the unauthorized people who viewed it with a simple “destroy it”. Come on!
I think you meant to say 'sha mown!' hahahaha
LoL…yes, actually I did!
hahaha… for some reason I have been filled with a lot more hope tonight that he might be alive… so many inconsistancies and what not…they all point to him being alive OR the worst f**king death investigating I've ever seen..
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11:09 pm July 22, 2009
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I absolutely agree with you, Miss Dahmer
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I LOVE you Michael, I am truly and deeply your friend…
If you smile with your fear and sorrow
Smile and maybe tomorrow
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11:17 pm July 22, 2009
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There have been some good developments in 'our investigation' last night. When I wen't to sleep I had the idea all of this was going nowhere and MJ really died.
Now I check the site when I wake up and there seem to be some new 'facts' that feed our theories with believable information. Again I feel MJ is still alive…. Thank you all.
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11:20 pm July 22, 2009
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Miss Dahmer said:
Give.In.To.Me said:
Miss Dahmer said:
Give.In.To.Me said:
…and just a slap on the wrist for the unauthorized people who viewed it with a simple “destroy it”. Come on!
I think you meant to say 'sha mown!' hahahaha
LoL…yes, actually I did!
hahaha… for some reason I have been filled with a lot more hope tonight that he might be alive… so many inconsistancies and what not…they all point to him being alive OR the worst f**king death investigating I've ever seen..
I agree! You would thinkg they can't follow through w/any of the leads. I think we are making better progress than the investigators are, here in the site, and I sure don't have any knowledge of criminal investigations. Aside from what CSI has taught me lol
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Keep the “Hope Alive”… |
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11:26 pm July 22, 2009
| Miss Dahmer
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Banessa said:
Miss Dahmer said:
Give.In.To.Me said:
Miss Dahmer said:
Give.In.To.Me said:
…and just a slap on the wrist for the unauthorized people who viewed it with a simple “destroy it”. Come on!
I think you meant to say 'sha mown!' hahahaha
LoL…yes, actually I did!
hahaha… for some reason I have been filled with a lot more hope tonight that he might be alive… so many inconsistancies and what not…they all point to him being alive OR the worst f**king death investigating I've ever seen..
I agree! You would thinkg they can't follow through w/any of the leads. I think we are making better progress than the investigators are, here in the site, and I sure don't have any knowledge of criminal investigations. Aside from what CSI has taught me lol
usually.. if you are a 'homicide' and/or 'crime scene' investigator you definitely don't leave these many loose ends.. any bonehead within the criminal justice field would know that..
all of these people are just making more and more mistakes… either on purpose or accidentally because they just don't know how to keep this hoax a secret..thus their slip ups continue..
but I do indeed agree that we are making better progress and everything we seem to dig up definitely feeds our hoax theory far more than him being dead… it is so obvious..
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11:35 pm July 22, 2009
| Banessa
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Miss Dahmer said:
Banessa said:
Miss Dahmer said:
Give.In.To.Me said:
Miss Dahmer said:
Give.In.To.Me said:
…and just a slap on the wrist for the unauthorized people who viewed it with a simple “destroy it”. Come on!
I think you meant to say 'sha mown!' hahahaha
LoL…yes, actually I did!
hahaha… for some reason I have been filled with a lot more hope tonight that he might be alive… so many inconsistancies and what not…they all point to him being alive OR the worst f**king death investigating I've ever seen..
I agree! You would thinkg they can't follow through w/any of the leads. I think we are making better progress than the investigators are, here in the site, and I sure don't have any knowledge of criminal investigations. Aside from what CSI has taught me lol
usually.. if you are a 'homicide' and/or 'crime scene' investigator you definitely don't leave these many loose ends.. any bonehead within the criminal justice field would know that..
all of these people are just making more and more mistakes… either on purpose or accidentally because they just don't know how to keep this hoax a secret..thus their slip ups continue..
but I do indeed agree that we are making better progress and everything we seem to dig up definitely feeds our hoax theory far more than him being dead… it is so obvious..
I wonder if they are actually releasing a press statement on the 1st regarding the report or maybe the family will request a 4th and who knows maybe a 5th autopsy just to show he really…really did “die”. The Hoax is apparent. I have a thought, where there meant to be so many slip ups and inconsistencies? I mean if they had wanted it to be taken as a serious thing I don't think they the family and who ever is in on it, would have made so many mistakes and from the beginning too!
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11:41 pm July 22, 2009
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Banessa said:
Miss Dahmer said:
Banessa said:
Miss Dahmer said:
Give.In.To.Me said:
Miss Dahmer said:
Give.In.To.Me said:
…and just a slap on the wrist for the unauthorized people who viewed it with a simple “destroy it”. Come on!
I think you meant to say 'sha mown!' hahahaha
LoL…yes, actually I did!
hahaha… for some reason I have been filled with a lot more hope tonight that he might be alive… so many inconsistancies and what not…they all point to him being alive OR the worst f**king death investigating I've ever seen..
I agree! You would thinkg they can't follow through w/any of the leads. I think we are making better progress than the investigators are, here in the site, and I sure don't have any knowledge of criminal investigations. Aside from what CSI has taught me lol
usually.. if you are a 'homicide' and/or 'crime scene' investigator you definitely don't leave these many loose ends.. any bonehead within the criminal justice field would know that..
all of these people are just making more and more mistakes… either on purpose or accidentally because they just don't know how to keep this hoax a secret..thus their slip ups continue..
but I do indeed agree that we are making better progress and everything we seem to dig up definitely feeds our hoax theory far more than him being dead… it is so obvious..
I wonder if they are actually releasing a press statement on the 1st regarding the report or maybe the family will request a 4th and who knows maybe a 5th autopsy just to show he really…really did “die”. The Hoax is apparent. I have a thought, where there meant to be so many slip ups and inconsistencies? I mean if they had wanted it to be taken as a serious thing I don't think they the family and who ever is in on it, would have made so many mistakes and from the beginning too!
well the whole theory of his 'brain' being taken out and studied and what not.. I have a feeling that was just to make people really BELIEVE he was dead.. like 'HEY! WE HAVE HIS BRAIN! HE REALLY IS DEAD!'… you know what I mean?.. I mean, it's quite morbid to make a statement saying they kept Michael Jackson's BRAIN. I'm pretty sure fans didn't want to know about that much less hear about it (if it were to be true)…
however.. regaurding the slip ups and what not… maybe they just get nervous when being interviewed which leads them to make minor slip ups..on accident.. cause I mean.. imagine being interviewed and talking about someone who is supposedly 'dead' to the world..but in your mind you know they're alive and you have to LIE your ass off to keep the entire thing a secret… and that goes for everyone involved – police, paramedics, investigators, the Jackson's.. etc. mind you, the jackson's have been the WORST of them all anyway..
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11:51 pm July 22, 2009
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fake death certificate? I can believe it. It would fit right in with all the other inconsistencies surrounding MJ's death
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<- smooth criminal :) |
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11:52 pm July 22, 2009
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Post edited 4:52 pm – July 23, 2009 by mjlives
sorry double post
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<- smooth criminal :) |
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1:07 am July 23, 2009
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mjlives said:
fake death certificate? I can believe it. It would fit right in with all the other inconsistencies surrounding MJ's death
THis is all we would need A fake “death Certificate” lol
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Keep the “Hope Alive”… |
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3:59 am July 23, 2009
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it`s like we all thought right from the start EVERYTHING IS FAKE
how much longer can it carry on for?
i think the question is not if he`s alive or dead but where is he and what`s his next move!
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4:03 am July 23, 2009
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trust no one..
also HERE
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4:05 am July 23, 2009
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I think they know we`re closing in on em`
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4:11 am July 23, 2009
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Post edited 9:12 pm – July 23, 2009 by Finnlady
BASIL said:
it`s like we all thought right from the start EVERYTHING IS FAKE
how much longer can it carry on for?
i think the question is not if he`s alive or dead but where is he and what`s his next move!
Did you mean what is his next movie.. Hah.. I have a feeling that we are now watching a movie presented by MJ and TMZ..
I don't know, but hopefully he is fine and not dead..
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5:00 am July 23, 2009
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Give.In.To.Me said:
…and just a slap on the wrist for the unauthorized people who viewed it with a simple “destroy it”. Come on!
I know right! This is supposed to be a government run agency and they can't protect their online files. They can do a security check of those other computers in their office, as well as add something on to MJ's file that shows who hacked it.
Like someone said, if MJ really did die , this is one of the most sloppiest unkept cases by LAPD. Would they really make themselves look bad on purpose though?
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You bash abusing victimize within the scheme
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7:34 pm July 26, 2009
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http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_docu…..sed_wm.pdf
Here is what I don't understand about the death certificate (I pasted the link above to the death certificate that I am currently looking at)…
First, in the physcian's certification section, the section that is blacked out is the section that says “Signature and title of certifier”. However, no other parts of the physician's certification section is filled out. I would think that if the physician had actually signed this section, the other parts of the physician's certification section would have been filled out. This makes me think that the the doctor did not sign it. And this is what other people are saying – that the doctor did not sign it. Ok… so we seem to be in agreement that the doctor did not sign it. Fine. But then why black out the section titled “Signature and title of certifier” unless they just wanted us to THINK that it was signed. Hmmmm……
Secondly, the other section that is blacked out says “Signature of Coroner/Deputy Coroner”. That, like all the other boxes on the form, are really small. So maybe this did become a coroner's case, with no need for a doctor to sign. Fine. But, most signatures aren't so neat as to just fit into that small box. I mean, I would think there would be at least one letter of the signature that might drop, even just slighly, below the line.
I don't even know if I believe that Latoya signed it. I mean, she has a “y” and a “j” in her name – you would think some part of her name would have gone outside the box as well. I wish I could fine her siganature somewhere…
It's like someone said “let's just black out all the places where it says 'siganture'” so people won't know that it's not signed.
Maybe this is getting picky, but this is what, to me, tells me that this document isn't real and is just being used as a prop to convince the public that he is dead.
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7:41 pm July 26, 2009
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Excellent point Arual.
And if a medical professional hasn't signed the DC, Michael Jackson is not legally dead. Period, end of discussion.
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7:50 pm July 26, 2009
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Post edited 1:10 pm – July 27, 2009 by Arual1979
Actually, I'm looking at the copy online that I posted the link to above…and I”m comparing it to a copy that I printed out on the day it was released. On the copy online, it shows as the informant “Latoya Jackson, Sister”.. and then the block beside it is blacked out. Well, in the copy that I had printed out, the blacked out space is not blacked out… and it shows her address, not her signature. So Latoya never signed it.
EDIT: I just saw this point made on another thread. Sorry. There's too much to keep up with
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2:07 am July 27, 2009
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Arual1979 said:
Post edited 8:10 pm – July 26, 2009 by Arual1979
Actually, I'm looking at the copy online that I posted the link to above…and I”m comparing it to a copy that I printed out on the day it was released. On the copy online, it shows as the informant “Latoya Jackson, Sister”.. and then the block beside it is blacked out. Well, in the copy that I had printed out, the blacked out space is not blacked out… and it shows her address, not her signature. So Latoya never signed it.
EDIT: I just saw this point made on another thread. Sorry. There's too much to keep up with
Interesting. I want to bump this because it might really be important.
The DC was apparently signed by Jonathan Fielding, right ?
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