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i agree completely at no point are we trying to in any way disrespect the family. We arent we just want to know the truth. And it is true sooo many of us cant even catch sleep all we do is gather our information we get during the day and discuss about it.. and news comes in through out the whole day. and at no point we want to make a joke of this. we love michael. and we just want truth we are hes fans…and michael loved hes fans as well. and all we want to get to is the truth no matter what it is. I agree with what tortured angel and bittyditty said.
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Spirits Dancing in the light.. So let the performance start- M.J ( is it scary)
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11:06 pm July 29, 2009
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if you step back and look at this whole scenario, its one big circus. just like he wanted it. to many signs pointing to him being alive. plain and simple.
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11:06 pm July 29, 2009
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Post edited 4:07 pm – July 30, 2009 by badkolo
in any normal case, mr dr con would have been arrested long time ago.
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Too many people are doing to Joe what so many in the world (media) did to Michael…they're judging him without even KNOWING him. It wasn't fair to Michael, and it isn't fair to his father. Whatever happened between Joe and Michael was between them, and I thought I read that Michael and his father had reconciled and come to terms with each other in recent years. MICHAEL was the one that Joe hurt, not us, and if Michael forgave his father, then we shouldn't keep up the bitterness toward him. Joe may have done things to Michael in the past that hurt Michael for many years, but again, that doesn't involve us. I know that fans REALLY don't like Joe because he beat and abused our favorite person, entertainer, etc. when he was younger…but we have to remember what MICHAEL was about and wanted the world to be like…forgiving, loving, caring, compassionate, etc. It's not good to be hateful, especially towards people we don't know. We don't have to glorify Joe or admire him dearly, but if we can't say anything nice, or at least neutral, maybe we shouldn't say anything at all. We should treat others how we would like to be treated.
As for Joe being emotional or not, or being so late…everyone deals with their pain and grief differently. There is no right or wrong way, or a certain amount of time that it takes. He may have been in shock and/or denial all this time as well, and the reality of the situation could JUST be hitting him. Perhaps he felt that he had to be strong for the family and Michael's kids, etc. I know that may sound silly to us, but that could be his thinking. Some people just aren't good at showing emotion. If Michael is gone, then he's probably up to his ears or more in things that have to be taken care of…custody, estate, business (Michael's, his, etc.), the investigation, appearances, family, the memorial, etc. There are so many things going on that we don't see. For all we know, it could be possible that during the days Joe seems to be in higher spirits, there could have been a major breakthrough in the investigation of Michael's death that will help put his killer(s) behind bars and help clear his son's name. I don't think that Joe was totally hateful toward Michael. He's not the highest person on my list of people that I admire, but since I don't know him, I can't say anything badly about him.
Am I happy with the way he was toward Michael when he was younger? No way. But, he could have changed as he got older, as people tend to do…Michael even mentioned that in an interview (think it may have been Bashir?), that his father mellowed a bit? For all we know, he may feel very guilty for the way he treated Michael when he was younger, but may not express it publicly…it may just have been between Michael and Joe. That's what happened between my dad and I. My dad wasn't physically abusive like Michael said Joe was, but he didn't treat me well, he was very cold-like, reserved, unemotional, uninvolved, etc…but he changed in his late 30's, opened up tremendously emotionally to me, built a close relationship with me, apologized for how he treated me, etc….but he doesn't show it towards others. This is a side of my father that “I” have only been able to see, and continue to see. So, honestly, we don't really know what Michael's relationship was like with his father when he died. As for being left out of the 2002 will, that could have been written before the two reconciled, or perhaps Michael felt that one of his father's weaknesses was with money…which wouldn't make sense to leave him in control of a lot of it then, but that doesn't mean that he won't get anything at all.
I'm sorry if this post is offensive to anyone, but that wasn't my intention. I'm not trying to attack any particular person(s). This is something I've noticed in the fans, etc. over the years and felt like saying something about.
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He who has a “why” to live for can bear with almost any “how.” – Friedrich Nietzsche
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11:38 pm July 29, 2009
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badkolo said:
to think we arent be watched for idead is assinine. this site has to many hits to be ignore. they know, we know.
hmm, and we know that they know!
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Can you feel it..
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11:51 pm July 29, 2009
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you bet your ass they do, this is the sloppiest mess i have ever seen, was princess dianas death this messy ,NO
the 2 sisters are lying, its easy to see and the stories dont match at all.
from the begining to the end its full of holes.
the reason the memorial was at the staples center is becuase aeg is on this too.
to think faking a death isnt possible then your slightly retarted. it will be sloppy for sure cause your famous and it wont look clean cause your not really dead but as long as the media says your dead then your dead. freaking media are morons.
i miss you michael
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2:55 am July 30, 2009
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Tortured Angel said:
Guys i just think its so wierd that none of the family members (except for Latoya's claims) deny having seen the body in the casket – esp. when the WHOLE family was apparently present at Forest Lawn the night before the public memorial on July 7th…..So if none of these people saw the “body” in the casket – what were they all doing there????
I'm with you. Remember it was reported that Paris put a necklace around Michael's neck at the service? How did that happen if the body wasn't viewed?
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2:18 am August 1, 2009
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Joe + showing he's sad (and he's really sad) = Michael his dead. End of the story.
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3:15 am August 1, 2009
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I still think he's alive. And this video just proves it even more.
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3:21 am August 1, 2009
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Where are the emotions?I see nothing and I don`t buy it,not for one second..he said..he`s my son..that`s all…is that emotional???
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8:36 am August 1, 2009
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Some people just don't know how to show emotion and Joe is one of them, but Michael always said this about his father.Michael said whenever he and his siblings would meet they would all hug,everybody except Joe(it's in his book Moonwalk).He said Joe could not relate to any of them except for when it came to the business.However Michael still loved Joe,no matter what Joe did, Michael still loved him because he forgave him.Regardless of what anyone may think of Joe ,Michael was his son,he raised him and he loved him.Joe does not need to put on a crying fest to show the world ,that he mourns his son.He could 'nt even look at Michael in his coffin,he didn't want to say good-bye to his son.Joe is showing the lost of his son,the best way he knows how.
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