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OMG You Guys!! Something suspicious about the photographer who took the ambulance pic!!!

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1:39 pm
July 27, 2009


bexuk

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Right you guys, dont know what you will make of this but I got a sickly feeling in my stomach when I saw this!


look at these pictures- 

This is Christopher Weiss and Michael Jackson. Christopher Weiss is the photographer who took the ambulance photo, supposedly the last ever photo of Michael Jackson alive. No we all have our doubts as to the validity of the ambulance photo, the red car reflection theory, the early 90's MJ in the photo, was it really Mj at all in the photo etc.


Well it is obvious that Michael Jackson and Christopher Weiss had a stronger bond than mere paparrazi and celebrity.  Look at the pictures, they look almost like friends, I mean how many papparazi do you know get on the other side of the camera to pose for photos with the person they are meant to be pursuing?


 Now read this article from Vanity Fair.

Michael Jackson’s Last Close-UpThe team of paparazzi who took the now infamous final photograph of Michael Jackson had fixated on the King of Pop—both with their cameras and without—for years, camping outside his gate and communing with his most fervent fans. In exclusive interviews, they recount the play-by-play of the shot seen round the world. By Michael Joseph Gross WEB EXCLUSIVE July 2, 2009

Christopher Weiss wants to be a doctor, but he is not, at first glance, a dream candidate for medical school. He went to junior college and got mediocre grades—and then he spent the better part of the next decade trying to make up for his feckless youth. Getting his bachelor’s degree at U.S.C., doing breast-cancer lab research, working as an E.M.T., and getting his paramedic’s license, the 29-year-old slowly built a résumé that could impress admissions boards. But he always worried that he wasn’t saving enough of his income, that med school would require him to take on a crushing load of debt. Then, in 2007, his boyhood friend Ben Evenstad, also 29, offered Weiss a chance to make a lot of money. When Evenstad co-founded the photo agency National Photo Group, he hired Weiss and taught him how to be a paparazzo.

Though Weiss says he’s not very interested in celebrities, he came to enjoy the job, especially when he got to shoot Michael Jackson. “From the first time I saw him in person, at a Barnes & Noble, when he was wearing Band-Aids on his face, I was mesmerized,” Weiss says. His boss, Evenstad, shares the fascination: “As a pap, you spend most of your time chasing sex symbols, but M.J. was different, almost like a Howard Hughes character,” he says. “With the masks and the umbrellas and the mystery, I thought Michael was more interesting than any other celebrity, and he has more interesting fans than any other celebrity—this group, mostly female, who would follow him all over the world. If he went to Ireland, France, Bahrain, Neverland, they were there. The same individuals. Nobody else had what he had. I set out to document why.”

Evenstad started as a pap in 1999 (he was also a professional autograph collector at the time), and he worked for a photo agency that questioned the amount of time he spent chasing Jackson, during a period when photos of the singer were not commanding premium prices. “For me, it was kind of a fan thing. As a fan, I wanted to get his photo. It wasn’t until 2003 when his legal troubles got bad that pictures of him started to be worth a lot again,” Evenstad says.

Although this may sound self-justifying, it is in earnest. I have known Evenstad for eight years—I wrote about him for The New York Times Magazine, in 2001—and from the day we met, he named Jackson as his favorite quarry.

Jackson’s most devoted fans recognized a fellow enthusiast in Evenstad, and they developed a mutually beneficial relationship, exchanging tips with one another about the singer’s comings and goings.

National Photo Group, from the beginning, “wanted to be the Michael Jackson agency,” Evenstad says. “There’s always money to be made with Michael, so we started shooting him every day.” Last fall, when Jackson moved into the Bel-Air Hotel, in Los Angeles, Christopher Weiss and another photographer were assigned to be, as Weiss puts it, “soldiers of the sit.” He, too, became friendly with the singer’s core group of fans: mostly young, attractive, European women.

Weiss, whose voice has the clear, generous intelligence of a Boy Scout, remembers, “The girls would huddle outside the hotel gate that was closest to Jackson’s bungalow, sitting very quietly so that security would not find them. And sometimes Michael would come out and say hello. One time he handed out five handwritten letters that said things like ‘I can feel your energy through the walls. You inspire me so much. I love you all. Thank you for being there. Thank you for being my friend. Thank you for loving me. With all the love in my heart, Michael Jackson.’ I was always impressed by that, how deeply he seemed to care for these girls. When he hugged one of them, he would put one hand on her neck, behind her head, that extra-comforting move like you would do to a person you know. The writing in those letters had a style that was personal, deep, flowery, ornate. It was not ‘Thanks guys. Have a good night. I hope you like the music.’”

This, too, may sound like a sentimental exaggeration, but it is not. I spent a week with the women that Weiss and Evenstad are talking about, while researching Starstruck, a book I wrote about relationships between celebrities and fans. No star was more generous to fans (every member of the core group of Jackson fans that I met had, at some point, been invited into his house to have dinner or to watch movies and hang out), and no group of fans treated one another with more generosity than these women.

“To figure out who would get the letters that Michael wrote to the group,” Weiss says, “the girls would draw straws. They would write their names on pieces of paper and throw them in my camera bag, and I would reach in and draw names. The girl who got the letter would take it and make photocopies and give them to all of the others.”


Last December, National became the first photo agency to learn the address of the mansion Jackson was renting on North Carolwood Drive, in the Holmby Hills section of Los Angeles. Evenstad, who was also friendly with members of Jackson’s staff, managed to keep the location a secret for a couple of weeks. Throughout the winter and spring, even when no one else was around, there was almost always at least one photographer from National staking out the gates alongside the die-hard fans.

On June 25, National sent a photographer named Alfred Ibanez to the house. Just after noon, Ibanez called Evenstad, panicked: “There is an ambulance here. Get your video camera and get here now.”

On the way to the scene, Evenstad called Weiss and the rest of his photographers on their cell phones, ordering them to Jackson’s house immediately. Weiss, who was staking out Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie’s driveway (the couple had spent the previous night at the Hollywood Roosevelt hotel, Pitt had just returned home in his black Prius, and Weiss was waiting in hopes of getting a shot of Jolie, as well), raced 7.9 miles to Jackson’s. He arrived to find the National photographers (the only paps there) talking to two fans and three autograph collectors who’d been in front of the house all morning. Weiss saw an ambulance inside the gates and a fire truck parked on the street. Ibanez had zoomed in through the window of the fire truck with his telephoto lens and snapped a picture of the call screen, which provided a few details about the situation inside. At this point, Weiss’s experience as an E.M.T. came in handy. He read from the digital image: “50-year-old male … not breathing … ”

“That told me this was probably serious,” Weiss says, “and not just an anxiety attack like he’s had in the past.” Still, he adds, “you can never know exactly what ‘not breathing’ means at that point. It’s laypeople being quoted in a clinical context.” The more time passed, the less serious Weiss figured Jackson’s problems must be. “We were there for 20 minutes,” he says, “and if you’ve got a full arrest”—when a patient really has stopped breathing—“the paramedics usually load and go within 8 to 10 minutes.”

Having been scooped in the past, Evenstad knew anything could happen. As the ambulance started backing down the driveway toward the gate, he barked orders at his guys: “This might be the biggest picture ever, so get up to the windows of that vehicle and shoot. I don’t care if you can’t see. Just shoot.” When he saw Weiss standing a foot from the window, he worried that Weiss would get nothing more than a picture of the reflection of his own camera flash. Weiss says, “Ben told me, ‘Put your lens against the window, and shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot.’”

“We couldn’t see inside the ambulance,” Weiss continues. “For all I knew when I was taking the pictures, Michael could have been sitting up on a gurney with oxygen on.”

The National photographers jumped in two cars that followed the Jackson entourage’s two blue Escalades that followed the screaming ambulance to the emergency room at U.C.L.A. medical center—and by then, TMZ and other paps were on the scene. When Evenstad rushed the ambulance, one of Jackson’s bodyguards tried to block his camera and said, “‘C’mon man. Don’t do this. This isn’t cool,’” and Evenstad said, “‘When it’s this big, we have to,’ and I ran around to the other side, because at a certain point there’s no delicacy. We gotta do what we gotta do.”

Weiss saw a look on the guards’ faces that made him believe something was really wrong: “They were being aggressive, but it was remorseful aggressiveness. ‘Please guys, please just stop.’ They kept saying ‘please.’”

By then, Weiss had checked the last few frames he’d shot through the ambulance window, and all he saw was a reflection on the glass. “I thought, I didn’t get it. I was depressed that I missed a shot that could have been a big deal.”

Evenstad collected the memory cards from everybody’s cameras and headed to National’s office to edit the images. Not long after, he called Weiss again: “Chris, you have made up for every knucklehead maneuver you have ever done. We have a usable frame of M.J. in the back”—the now ubiquitous shot of Jackson strapped to a gurney, his face shown in profile as one paramedic attempts chest resuscitation and another pumps oxygen into his mouth.

At this point, National’s paps were still in an ethical twilight zone. Was the picture they’d taken no more than an intimate shot of Michael Jackson’s most recent histrionics? (“This is Michael we’re talking about,” Evenstad says. “Crazy shit is run-of-the-mill.”) Or, as they were beginning to dread—with an unsettling edge of excitement—did they have something more significant on their hands?

They were still editing the shots when TMZ, at first, and then the TV networks reported that Jackson was dead. Weiss, who was in National’s office by then, says that everyone stopped briefly and looked at one another, stunned. Then, Evenstad says, “something clicks in, and you just start working again like a machine. You have to sell this. And you have to not shortchange yourself. We didn’t make him die. Whatever happened to him physically happened because of what he was doing. We were only there to report the goings-on of his. The last thing I want on earth was for him to die.”


The morning after Jackson’s death, Weiss says, he was “happy because we got the picture. I took the last picture of Michael Jackson, ever. Because we had, as much as a photographer could for the last six months of his life, a relationship with Michael. There were days, like when he went to the doctor’s office sometimes, when we would just put our cameras down and visit with him. It’s weird to say this, as paparazzi, because the world can’t stand us, even though they can’t put our magazines down, but there was a closeness that our photographers had with Michael. If there was any fate to getting the shots, maybe that was it. We didn’t go out celebrating. We just watched the news all night.”

How does it feel, knowing that Jackson might well have been dead when the picture was taken? Weiss struggles to formulate an answer, then says, “I am glad, if somebody had to take that photo, that it was me. But I would rather it not have happened. I’d rather have a photo of him carrying his kids piggyback in the park, which is something that’s never been shot and I used to hope for. I understand the magnitude of the photo and that it has a kind of place in history. But it sucks. It just sucks.”

This ambivalence was eating at both of the photographers the day after Jackson died. Evenstad, who didn’t sleep that night, says, “I’m not a morbid person. I don’t want to celebrate someone’s death because I’m making money. I wish Michael wasn’t dead. And I would do better, business-wise, if he were still alive. But given that he died, I am not sorry that we got the last photo. That’s something that the world wants to see. It took skill and effort to get that photo, and for that I’m proud. But we are in mourning.”

He and Weiss were both worried about the fans. A few of them had been texting some of National’s photographers during the night: “I am dead inside,” one message read. “Nothing means anything.”

“For the last 18 hours, we have been playing M.J. songs, and we have a poster in the window of our office that reads ‘R.I.P. King,’” Evenstad said at the time. “And look, I’m still stunned. It hasn’t hit me yet. He was the only celebrity that, if you were devoted enough, he would let you into his house. You think somebody could go to Bruce Willis’s house and say, ‘I love you, I love you,’ that you’d get in? He’d call the police. That’s what all of them would do. All but Michael. If you said ‘I love you, I love you’ to Michael, he would assume you meant you loved him, and he would let you in.”

Jackson’s death leaves a void not only in the fans’ lives but also in Evenstad’s. As much as he may mourn the singer, though, Evenstad also mourns the rare complexity of relationships that surrounded the King of Pop. “This is what hit me halfway through the night: What do I do now? Chase f**king Zac Efron around?,” Evenstad asks. “What is the point?”

Christopher Weiss plans to retire from the paparazzi if he gets into medical school this fall. By the end of the weekend, his photograph of Michael Jackson in the back of the ambulance had grossed sales in the high six figures, with many foreign sales still pending. The first, and most notorious of these sales was closed during my conversation with Evenstad, when a bicycle messenger was pedaling across London, delivering a paper check—for about $500,000—from OK! magazine to National’s U.K. lawyer. Yesterday, the New York Post’s “Page Six” called Weiss’s photo “ghoulish,” reported that some OK! staffers were outraged by the purchase, and suggested that Jay-Z and Sean Combs may organize a boycott of the magazine. Combs’s publicist denied the rumor, and it’s unclear how much controversy the shot may inspire—but this image is sure to have a long and prosperous life. Frank Griffin, one of the deans of Hollywood paparazzi, was quoted as saying the shot would earn $1 million. That should go a long way toward paying tuition.

In January, Weiss went from commission to salary with National, he says, not quite able to hide his disappointment. But he’ll probably make out fine. Ben Evenstad explains, “Our whole staff will get bonuses on this. Once we exceed quarterly sales goals, everybody gets a piece of the pie. When we created that system, we never figured that a picture would ever make this much money. The bonuses might be six figures. If not, then damn close.”


The link for the article http://www.vanityfair.com/cult…..rentPage=1


Now call me suspicious but doesnt it strike you as strange that Weiss plans to retire from the papparazzi if he gets into medical school in the fall, and also that Weiss was a trained paramedic and EMT, damn he could have been one of the acting paramedics in the photo!  Also Weiss talks about the special relationship he had with jackson.


Weiss also wanted to go to med school but was afraid he wouldnt be able to afford the huge fees involved.  What Im trying to say is maybe the last photo of MJ was staged and Weiss took it.  By doing so, he knew he would make enough money to retire from the paparrazi and fulfill his dream of going to med school. In return, MJ would be able to add credibility to the hoax death by having a saleable final photograph of him in the ambulance.


Both the photographers involve readily admit that they were both mesmerised by Michael Jackson,a nd were huge fans of his. Too far fetched or possible, what do you guys think?

Just because you read it in a magazine or see it on a tv screen dont make it factual….actual!

1:43 pm
July 27, 2009


emo_pinkt

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Mj and the photographer were somewhat friends.In his interview Christopher said that MJ always called him th eone with the camera.

***RIP Michael Jackson**

1:45 pm
July 27, 2009


sita

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the closer we can look to special things, the more is the hoax on…

dont forget: LOOK WITH YOUR HEART

1:45 pm
July 27, 2009


bexuk

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Also, Weiss may not have had to even take the picture, this picture could be one taken after Mj was hospitalised in 1995 after he collapsed on stage in New York, hence thats why it looks like a young Mj or it could even be a waxwork.


By agreeing to be in on the hoax and claiming to be the photographer who took the ‘last photo’ of Mmichael Jackson, Weiss knew that he would easily make enough money off the back of that photo to easily go to med school and retire from the paparazzi!


Just a thought!

Just because you read it in a magazine or see it on a tv screen dont make it factual….actual!

1:46 pm
July 27, 2009


HanaDay

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Wow, this is way more than coincidence. He has a EMT license, medical school…….Hmmmm

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1:46 pm
July 27, 2009


Rachel

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I think it could be plausible. I saw an interview with this guy on Youtube and he wouldn't say exactly how much he made on the sale of the photograph but it was believed to be in the region of $750,000. The guy would have been made for life if it is in fact true.

It's interesting that he has a background knowledge of medical issues. However if he claims to know as much as he does and he was one of the paramedics in the photo then surely he would know how to administer CPR? I mean from what I can see of the picture his hand is on his collar bone area and not on Michael's chest.

Good post though! I'm sure it will give us something to think about

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1:48 pm
July 27, 2009


niccih

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I was looking at pics on MJSpace and came across that pic and realized he's from TMZ.

1:48 pm
July 27, 2009


souza81

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Hmmmm, I didn't know about the med school dream….

That's very interesting. Again my theory still stands strong!

He looked me deep in the eyes He’s touchin’ me so to start He says there’s no turnin’ back He trapped me into his heart!

1:48 pm
July 27, 2009


Morgana

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Yeah, and did you notice his so called offhand comment…

“We couldn't see inside the ambulance,” Weiss continues “For all I knew when I was taking the pictures, Michael could have been sitting up on a gurney with oxygen on

It's like he knew what was going on inside it…..

1:51 pm
July 27, 2009


Thetruth

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But if you watch the video on him talking about how he got the pitchure witch is located on this site or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..r_embedded

you could see that he didnt greif or anything with Michael jackson death he just wanted to make the money and as fast as possible print the pitchure and sell to the magazine so I doubt that he had a close friendship with the star.

Love you Michael from the bottom of my heart!

1:55 pm
July 27, 2009


beyond anguish

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That guy looks so familiar ..where did i see him at???

1:57 pm
July 27, 2009


Banessa

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Thank you for this post! When we get info like this is when I am more reassured that all this is a hoax! Again, thank you

Keep the “Hope Alive”…

1:58 pm
July 27, 2009


mjfan

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I just want to comment from the Vanity Fair article… MJ totally had a harem, lol.  That is SO sweet the letters he wrote them, and the way he hugged them.  He's so freaking sweet. 

2:00 pm
July 27, 2009


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Did I understand right that this guy or his agency also filmed the ambulance video?


If so..


He said that they came to MJ's house, when the ambulance was already arrived to the house. I was just wondering that we can see in the end of the ambulance video when the ambulance actually drives to the house and the gates go closed. (I don't understand why they put the arrival of the ambulance in the end of the video?) That is why I think that the ambulance video is not from 25th June and the ambulance picture is fake, too.

2:00 pm
July 27, 2009


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Post edited 7:02 am – July 28, 2009 by MyBelovedMJ


Morgana said:

Yeah, and did you notice his so called offhand comment…

“We couldn't see inside the ambulance,” Weiss continues “For all I knew when I was taking the pictures, Michael could have been sitting up on a gurney with oxygen on

It's like he knew what was going on inside it…..


That is the most stupid remark as to this date. This dude is almost worse than Latoya (I thought that it wouldent be possible, but aparrently it was)

He took a picture of Mike in the ambulance, but he couldent see inside it. DOH!!!! What a crock.

Michael needs to tell this guy to shut up, before he ruins everything.

DAMN!!! I cant believe that

2:08 pm
July 27, 2009


watthhel

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It seems he was amused


Thetruth said:

But if you watch the video on him talking about how he got the pitchure witch is located on this site or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..r_embedded

you could see that he didnt greif or anything with Michael jackson death he just wanted to make the money and as fast as possible print the pitchure and sell to the magazine so I doubt that he had a close friendship with the star.


2:10 pm
July 27, 2009


pumpkin

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BULLSHIT – maybe you/he need to go into writing fiction novels instead of photography or medical school.

2:18 pm
July 27, 2009


Give.In.To.Me

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Finnlady said:

Did I understand right that this guy or his agency also filmed the ambulance video?


If so..


He said that they came to MJ's house, when the ambulance was already arrived to the house. I was just wondering that we can see in the end of the ambulance video when the ambulance actually drives to the house and the gates go closed. (I don't understand why they put the arrival of the ambulance in the end of the video?) That is why I think that the ambulance video is not from 25th June and the ambulance picture is fake, too.


There are some versions of the video on you tube that people have edited to make it appear as though the ambulance is arriving.

Can you feel it.. Can you feel it… CAN YOU FEEL IT

2:18 pm
July 27, 2009


Morgana

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MyBelovedMJ said:

Post edited 2:02 pm – July 27, 2009 by MyBelovedMJ


Morgana said:

Yeah, and did you notice his so called offhand comment…

“We couldn't see inside the ambulance,” Weiss continues “For all I knew when I was taking the pictures, Michael could have been sitting up on a gurney with oxygen on

It's like he knew what was going on inside it…..


That is the most stupid remark as to this date. This dude is almost worse than Latoya (I thought that it wouldent be possible, but aparrently it was)

He took a picture of Mike in the ambulance, but he couldent see inside it. DOH!!!! What a crock.

Michael needs to tell this guy to shut up, before he ruins everything.

DAMN!!! I cant believe that


To MyBelovedMJ:  I don't understand what you mean?  It what way is my comment the most stupid one so far?

It was a thought that's all.

No need to get heated about it.

2:20 pm
July 27, 2009


Morgana

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sita said:

the closer we can look to special things, the more is the hoax on…


Exactly Sita!

2:23 pm
July 27, 2009


Morgana

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Morgana said:

Yeah, and did you notice his so called offhand comment…

“We couldn't see inside the ambulance,” Weiss continues “For all I knew when I was taking the pictures, Michael could have been sitting up on a gurney with oxygen on

It's like he knew what was going on inside it…..


Going on inside… in terms of being in on it beforehand.

2:27 pm
July 27, 2009


MyBelovedMJ

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Morgana said:

MyBelovedMJ said:

Post edited 2:02 pm – July 27, 2009 by MyBelovedMJ


Morgana said:

Yeah, and did you notice his so called offhand comment…

“We couldn't see inside the ambulance,” Weiss continues “For all I knew when I was taking the pictures, Michael could have been sitting up on a gurney with oxygen on

It's like he knew what was going on inside it…..


That is the most stupid remark as to this date. This dude is almost worse than Latoya (I thought that it wouldent be possible, but aparrently it was)

He took a picture of Mike in the ambulance, but he couldent see inside it. DOH!!!! What a crock.

Michael needs to tell this guy to shut up, before he ruins everything.

DAMN!!! I cant believe that


To MyBelovedMJ:  I don't understand what you mean?  It what way is my comment the most stupid one so far?

It was a thought that's all.

No need to get heated about it.


NO No NOT at all. I was talking about that papparazi dude Sorry i dunno why i posted it under ur post LOL

2:33 pm
July 27, 2009


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Morgana: I don't think that your post was meant with “stupid”.

Stupid was, what Weiss was telling…MybelovedMJ surely meant the quote….not to offend you

so don't worry


Thanks to bexuk for the post. I gave you 5 stars. It's another part of the puzzle. 

Trust no one!

2:34 pm
July 27, 2009


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well, rememebr that celebrity bus type thing that was driving up? The local peep at celebrity homes vehicle, well, if one of them saw anyone by the side window of the ambulance taking pictures? They would have been at the best spot to see the side of the ambulance when it pulled out, in footage, I saw 2 guys run up to the side of the ambulance, but it did not look like either of them got a shot, then they ran to there car's. My husband thinks that with MJ's huge heart and helping people, he told that guy to take the pic, so Mj knew he would make enought money off the pic to go to med school, and therefore leave MJ the he** alone. lol.

2:35 pm
July 27, 2009


I will be there

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Interesting, he mentions the “screaming ambulance”-did not think the sirens were on??

Looking in my mirror, took my surprise, I can’t help but see you, running often through my mind

2:43 pm
July 27, 2009


niccih

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sthepoet said:

well, rememebr that celebrity bus type thing that was driving up? The local peep at celebrity homes vehicle, well, if one of them saw anyone by the side window of the ambulance taking pictures? They would have been at the best spot to see the side of the ambulance when it pulled out, in footage, I saw 2 guys run up to the side of the ambulance, but it did not look like either of them got a shot, then they ran to there car's. My husband thinks that with MJ's huge heart and helping people, he told that guy to take the pic, so Mj knew he would make enought money off the pic to go to med school, and therefore leave MJ the he** alone. lol.


I think you're husband is right cause that's definitely something MJ would do

2:45 pm
July 27, 2009


Hope

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he mentions he is “happy” about getting the last picture of Michael Jackson, that is nothing I would be happy about.

He doesnt seem to feel bad about the money he made from it…I know if it were me (or any other decent person) I wouldnt be happy to make money off of such a terrible horrific picture…unless he knew it wasnt real…

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2:51 pm
July 27, 2009


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EMTLicense ,huh ????? Okay, I think we're on to something here. For those of you who don't know what an EMT is, it stands for Emergency Medical Technician !!!! EMT's are dispatched by 911 operator to the scene !!

Once they arrive, EMTs and paramedics assess the nature of the patient’s condition while trying to determine whether the patient has any pre-existing medical conditions. Following medical protocols and guidelines, they provide appropriate emergency care and, when necessary, transport the patient. Some paramedics are trained to treat patients with minor injuries on the scene of an accident or they may treat them at their home without transporting them to a medical facility. Emergency treatment is carried out under the medical direction of physicians.

EMTs and paramedics may use special equipment, such as backboards, to immobilize patients before placing them on stretchers and securing them in the ambulance for transport to a medical facility. These workers generally work in teams. During the transport of a patient, one EMT or paramedic drives while the other monitors the patient’s vital signs and gives additional care as needed. Some paramedics work as part of a helicopter’s flight crew to transport critically ill or injured patients to hospital trauma centers.

At the medical facility, EMTs and paramedics help transfer patients to the emergency department, report their observations and actions to emergency department staff, and may provide additional emergency treatment. After each run, EMTs and paramedics replace used supplies and check equipment. If a transported patient had a contagious disease, EMTs and paramedics decontaminate the interior of the ambulance and report cases to the proper authorities.

EMTs and paramedics also provide transportation for patients from one medical facility to another, particularly if they work for private ambulance services. Patients often need to be transferred to a hospital that specializes in their injury or illness or to a nursing home

Is it just me or is rather convenient for an EMT/photographer who took the only picture of MJ's “death” to be coincidentally outside his rented mansion ?

2:56 pm
July 27, 2009


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mysterylady said:

EMTLicense ,huh ????? Okay, I think we're on to something here. For those of you who don't know what an EMT is, it stands for Emergency Medical Technician !!!! EMT's are dispatched by 911 operator to the scene !!

Once they arrive, EMTs and paramedics assess the nature of the patient’s condition while trying to determine whether the patient has any pre-existing medical conditions. Following medical protocols and guidelines, they provide appropriate emergency care and, when necessary, transport the patient. Some paramedics are trained to treat patients with minor injuries on the scene of an accident or they may treat them at their home without transporting them to a medical facility. Emergency treatment is carried out under the medical direction of physicians.

EMTs and paramedics may use special equipment, such as backboards, to immobilize patients before placing them on stretchers and securing them in the ambulance for transport to a medical facility. These workers generally work in teams. During the transport of a patient, one EMT or paramedic drives while the other monitors the patient’s vital signs and gives additional care as needed. Some paramedics work as part of a helicopter’s flight crew to transport critically ill or injured patients to hospital trauma centers.

At the medical facility, EMTs and paramedics help transfer patients to the emergency department, report their observations and actions to emergency department staff, and may provide additional emergency treatment. After each run, EMTs and paramedics replace used supplies and check equipment. If a transported patient had a contagious disease, EMTs and paramedics decontaminate the interior of the ambulance and report cases to the proper authorities.

EMTs and paramedics also provide transportation for patients from one medical facility to another, particularly if they work for private ambulance services. Patients often need to be transferred to a hospital that specializes in their injury or illness or to a nursing home

Is it just me or is rather convenient for an EMT/photographer who took the only picture of MJ's “death” to be coincidentally outside his rented mansion ?


OH MY GOD. This all make sence.

LOL.

He just blew up Mikes COVER


3:07 pm
July 27, 2009


mjlives

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Very convenient that Michael had a friend in the paparazzi – who just happened to have an EMT licence and who just happened to be the ONLY person able to get a photograph of him in the ambulance. If this is a coincidence, it's a pretty damn big one.

<- smooth criminal :)

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