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5:26 am July 31, 2009
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5:30 am July 31, 2009
| Thetruth
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could you send some pics that base your fact?
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Love you Michael from the bottom of my heart! |
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5:30 am July 31, 2009
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I think he was nervous and not happy at all… If he allready knew he didnt want to do this 50 concerts…. its explaines his act….
He WAS angry.. he DID NOT want to do 50 concerts… only 10… around the world.
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5:31 am July 31, 2009
| mmz
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just help me to attach the document.DO I have to click send PM?
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5:34 am July 31, 2009
| Antigone
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You can load the pics up there –> http://www.imageshack.us/ and then post the link here!
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For there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.
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5:34 am July 31, 2009
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Just click on the tree like buttom that is said insert image, btw ingebjorg he didnt know he was up to do 40 more shows at that time. They fooled him later when the confreence was made he thought he was going to do 10 concerts
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Love you Michael from the bottom of my heart! |
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5:36 am July 31, 2009
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If that kind of phantome was MJ, including his distorted hand, better if he died (or hoax his death) before his performances and concerts, because he should have been ridiculous on the stage…
I'm sorry if I have been disrespectfull, but that's what I think and feel about!
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5:37 am July 31, 2009
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Welcome!!! Not sure if any other updates about Dimitri. But last I read o nthis forum a cople of weeks ago was that he Dimitri was googled and was found the only listed Dimitri was dead long before MJ was even born. Also with that came the theory he was terminal ill, therefore agreed to get extensive cosmentic surgey to make his face, etc look like MJ's. His family would have been looked after if he agreed to go through with the death. This I read on this website
http://illuminustheo.blogspot……-died.html
Of course this website is all rumors and there is another thread about the rumors.
I also agree with you about the 02 announcement. At first I thought it was a double. But to me his smile (lopsided) and his hands are the same. You can't change these features (I think, you never know).
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5:37 am July 31, 2009
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Of course it could be the real Michael at the O2 conference. Maybe he was nervous there and acted weird because he knew that This Is It. This was his final curtain call. Tha last time he went on stage in public. And he knew that. It was all in the plan. Make a big comeback and then escape from everyday life. All his debts (if he had any) could be paid from the newly created sales.
The comeback is something he managed to do: Everyone formerly unknow with his music, is now listening to it and even buying albums and DVDs.
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6:01 am July 31, 2009
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Ok.
you can see the comparison picture here.
Files names:real MJ at London conference
real MJ at London conference2
Can you see it?
If you agree with me it is better to spread the new in the website.
and don't tell me that also 3 years ago he used an impersonator….
http://www.imageshack.us/
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6:06 am July 31, 2009
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mmz said:
I was wondering if you can compare thi pictures. If they match i`m gonna die
here`s the pictures thank you
http://blog.taragana.com/e/wp-…..on_ear.jpg
and this one http://www.click.ro/assets/art…..3400_1.jpg
pay attention at the ear, for me are the same
Mille grazie
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6:08 am July 31, 2009
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Sosh said:
Of course it could be the real Michael at the O2 conference. Maybe he was nervous there and acted weird because he knew that This Is It. This was his final curtain call. Tha last time he went on stage in public. And he knew that. It was all in the plan. Make a big comeback and then escape from everyday life. All his debts (if he had any) could be paid from the newly created sales.
The comeback is something he managed to do: Everyone formerly unknow with his music, is now listening to it and even buying albums and DVDs.
I hope so…
but in this web site it seems that man not being Michael was the best proof for the hoax.
In this case,all the theory falls down.
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6:08 am July 31, 2009
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Love you Michael from the bottom of my heart! |
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6:10 am July 31, 2009
| mmz
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I was wondering if you can compare thi pictures. If they match i`m gonna die
here`s the pictures thank you
http://blog.taragana.com/e/wp-…..on_ear.jpg
and this one http://www.click.ro/assets/art…..3400_1.jpg
pay attention at the ear, for me are the same
Mille grazie
I will do as soon as I can..but if you check the comparison of my pictures you already can say thet is no doubt. I will next upload also the hands.
Anyway…me too I was so sad yesterday night..after having checked.
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6:15 am July 31, 2009
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Thetruth said:
Just click on the tree like buttom that is said insert image, btw ingebjorg he didnt know he was up to do 40 more shows at that time. They fooled him later when the confreence was made he thought he was going to do 10 concerts
..i click on the tree..but it is said to put a URL. I have the file in my computer.How can I do?
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6:17 am July 31, 2009
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mmz said:
I was wondering if you can compare thi pictures. If they match i`m gonna die
here`s the pictures thank you
http://blog.taragana.com/e/wp-…..on_ear.jpg
and this one http://www.click.ro/assets/art…..3400_1.jpg
pay attention at the ear, for me are the same
Mille grazie
I will do as soon as I can..but if you check the comparison of my pictures you already can say thet is no doubt. I will next upload also the hands.
Anyway…me too I was so sad yesterday night..after having checked.
those photos( posted by me) are one from the ambulance and one taken just 2-3 wks before
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6:18 am July 31, 2009
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If you upload the pitchure on Imageshack then you will get a “URL” to the pitchure
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Love you Michael from the bottom of my heart! |
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6:20 am July 31, 2009
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Kurious said:
Welcome!!! Not sure if any other updates about Dimitri. But last I read o nthis forum a cople of weeks ago was that he Dimitri was googled and was found the only listed Dimitri was dead long before MJ was even born. Also with that came the theory he was terminal ill, therefore agreed to get extensive cosmentic surgey to make his face, etc look like MJ's. His family would have been looked after if he agreed to go through with the death. This I read on this website
http://illuminustheo.blogspot&…..-died.html
Of course this website is all rumors and there is another thread about the rumors.
I also agree with you about the 02 announcement. At first I thought it was a double. But to me his smile (lopsided) and his hands are the same. You can't change these features (I think, you never know).
With all my respect, and it's simply my opinion…this website is bullcrap. (The illuminus Theo blog)
I also believe that it was really Michael at the O2 conference…which doesn't mean that he is dead. His teeth and hands can't lie. Unless he planned to change the “impersonator's” teeth and hand lines???
I truly, deeply, believe that he is alive, though.
He is alive, I can feel it on my heart….just BELIEVE!!
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Michael Jackson Number ONE fan…
I LOVE you Michael, I am truly and deeply your friend…
If you smile with your fear and sorrow
Smile and maybe tomorrow
You’ll find that life is still worthwhile if you’ll just…
SMILE
I love you, Michael |
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6:23 am July 31, 2009
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Sosh said:
Of course it could be the real Michael at the O2 conference. Maybe he was nervous there and acted weird because he knew that This Is It. This was his final curtain call. Tha last time he went on stage in public. And he knew that. It was all in the plan. Make a big comeback and then escape from everyday life. All his debts (if he had any) could be paid from the newly created sales.
The comeback is something he managed to do: Everyone formerly unknow with his music, is now listening to it and even buying albums and DVDs.
I agree completely with you!
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Michael Jackson Number ONE fan…
I LOVE you Michael, I am truly and deeply your friend…
If you smile with your fear and sorrow
Smile and maybe tomorrow
You’ll find that life is still worthwhile if you’ll just…
SMILE
I love you, Michael |
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6:25 am July 31, 2009
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You can load the pics up there –> http://www.imageshack.us/ and then post the link here!
http://img43.imageshack.us/img…..ferenc.jpg
http://img269.imageshack.us/im…..ferenc.jpg
I hope now you can see the comparison.Let me know..
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6:31 am July 31, 2009
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6:34 am July 31, 2009
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Post edited 11:36 pm – July 31, 2009 by Thetruth
Mmz if your good with computer and such could you try to match this images? the hand seems to me like two diffrent, take notice that the ring finger is slightly crooked on the O2 guy but not the two first shot
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6:39 am July 31, 2009
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STARFISH1 said:
O2 guy is not MJ!
check the link I attached comparison.
I don't want destroy anyone hope (neither mine),but we all cannot close eyes.
I invite you anyway not to FAKE events.
Just join together and find that he is really alive.
What I did was just for cleaning the path from distorted belief.
I will go on thinking my MJ is alive.
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6:41 am July 31, 2009
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mmz said:
http://img43.imageshack.us/img…..ferenc.jpg
http://img269.imageshack.us/im…..ferenc.jpg
I hope now you can see the comparison.Let me know..
Good job!!! I wish it would have been a different person, somehow it would make me feel better. But I guess you are right!
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6:42 am July 31, 2009
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Oh, please. The hand is exactly the same! Study the lines in the hand properbly, you'll find that they match perfectly.
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Thank you for sunshine, moonlight, good times and boogie.<3
Michael, the world lacks respect for you. Your music is the solution to all my worries, sorrows and fears. I can never, ever thank you enough. I will love you for eternity. |
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6:45 am July 31, 2009
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I have already compared..now I am workin..but as soon as I finish I will provide to add the link to the comparison of the hands (already done).They are same.
COnsider that inclination of hands can distort image,and lights can make the lines less visible.
also on that I have now no doubt.
Maybe we can also accept that Michael also can little change through times,and through feelings.ANd we should accept him the way it is,even if a bit more mannered,or a bit weird attitude.I always look weird when I pass through a pretty tough moment in life.
what do yo think?
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6:47 am July 31, 2009
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Good job!!! I wish it would have been a different person, somehow it would make me feel better. But I guess you are right!
..now ..let'see that someone will say that the impersonator adjusted his teeth same as MJ.
But let's go on finding what is really happening.
Now,for sure london conference was Michael.Let's go on
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6:48 am July 31, 2009
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I always knew, it was the real MJ at O2 conference, don't know what people are fussing about, MJ wouldn't put an imposter to talk infront of hundreds of his fans, surely he would think the fans would find out?
But he was indeed out of character that time
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6:52 am July 31, 2009
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mmz said:
STARFISH1 said:
O2 guy is not MJ!
check the link I attached comparison.
I don't want destroy anyone hope (neither mine),but we all cannot close eyes.
I invite you anyway not to FAKE events.
Just join together and find that he is really alive.
What I did was just for cleaning the path from distorted belief.
I will go on thinking my MJ is alive.
I check the link and many other things!
I say to you heart, this is not MJ.Sorry, this is my opinion!
Face is different,if you look carefully,shape of face is continued.
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6:55 am July 31, 2009
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im sorry but those pics make me believe even more that the 02 guy was an imposter. the teeth are different if you look at the tooth between his incisor and his front tooth, the one on o2 michael is set further back, also the two front teeth are dead straight – but michaels are not. Then you have the facial pics, ( with the chins ) they are two different chins – very very similar but no way are they the same, the bridge of the nose is higher and longer than michaels, the part under nose/upper lip, michaels is wider and bigger whereas on the o2 guy its thinner and shorter. Cheek bones are heavier and lower on o2 mj, the whole face structure is different, all be it this guy looks a hell of a lot like mj – probably with the aid if lots of surgery but it is not the real mj at all.
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am new looged in in this site,but I read every day all posts.I am italian,sorry for english mistakes.I will do my best.
First of all I want you to know that this site has helped me a lot in the last times. Believing MJ alive makes me feel much better.
But now I have to say something that will a bit disappoint all of you(me included).
Yesterday I spend all night comparing michael jackson 2006 pictures,together with the “imposter” of London conference,and the conclusion made me cry:THE GUY AT THE CONFERENCE IN LONDON WAS REALLY MJ. (same as 2006 award event)
I am pretty good in computer graphic,and compared pictures with michael in exactly same position.
COnsidering that his eyes cannot be compared(since he wore sunglasses) i focused on the most MJ recognizable face detail: the smile.
Teeth shape are EXACTLY the same (look at left side MJ typical unlined teeth).
also hands line.I found 2 pictures in perfect same position(one dated2006,one 2009 London conference. Exactly the same.Really did my best for discovering the truth.
Now what i feel is that we all fans ( it is 25 years I follow him,and made him one the best reasons of my life) we called an “impostor” our beloved MJ,and we have had doubts it was him at conference…I am sad for that.
Ok,me also I thought that was not him.
-the walk
-the accent
-the tone of voice
-the mannerism
-too many smiles
-any “little shiny attitude”
-too tall (seemed)
but now I realize that these are all details that cannot guarantee that was an impostor
Teeth,mouth ,hands are objective values.And now I know they are the same.
Now,let’s try to give a reason to what still seems not be as michael:
-consider that he was going to announce his come back tour,after long time far from his fans.
He was of course kind of over excited (that is the reason of walk,of him laughing so much, his accentuated mannerism).-remember Bashir interview point in Berlin when he was “too much excited”hearing his fans screaming for him down of the hotel??pretty same attitude.
Then,he seems taller,since he was thinner than usual.
The tone of voice.When I am a bit cold,or if I slept few hours,my voice is deeper.We cannot say he was not him because of the voice (consider also the microphone regulation).
Please,believe that he was him. Now I know for sure. ANd I am angry with myself since I doubted.We all are fans,and we kind of betrayed him with these suppositions.
Anyway,I still have hope he is still alive. Even if that guy was really him.
All other comments in this site are right (family attitude, the memorial, good reason for him to fake his death,the certificate..etc..etc),Actually,I don’t agree with the video of him standing in the helicopter. People were moving the body.
Now,I hope someone will help me to find other NEW circumstances that he is alive.Give me please more reasons.I need it.
PS I have the files with the pictures comparisons,but I don’t know How to attach the documents in my post.SO that I can share with you the work I ma doing on it.
I consider you all my friends,i don’t want to fight against anyone.I am just searching for the truth. I just hope that wherever MJ is, he will not feel betrayed by us.
another question.It has been said a certain Dimitri was a very good look-alike.I searched for a picture of this guy,but cannot find.Can you help me?