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9:11 pm
July 23, 2009


moonwalker_girl

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Hi guys,

Apologies for my psychic topics, but just found something online which made me ponder for a moment :

(This site contains all the odd information:)

http://www.sdparanormal.com/Mi…..ckson.html


I would normally doubt this kinda stuff, but it was said that : (adapted from site)

This video has been confirmed to be Michael Jackson by a distant “non-famous” family member.  She received a personal message as well that tracked back to time spent together in Gary, IN.

07/09/09 8:00am PT The family member confirmed her personal message as being time spent with Michael Jackson in Gary Indiana before the Jackson 5 became famous. 

07/10/09 2:44pm PT The family member watched the video recording and confirmed that she feels this is Michael Jackson. 

07/14/09 – ABCNews ran a tease that included “never before seen” footage of Katherine Jackson from 2003.  She speaks in a similar tone as the spirit person in the video above.  Including using the word “STOP” and calling people mean.  The spirit person used the word “STOP” several times and said people were “not nice”.  http://video.aol.com/video-det…..eds-light-on-family/2233865943


For easier viewing, below are the 2 videos of the “medium” who managed to channel MJ. I personally feel that it is CREEPY because there really was a “MJ feel” when she was speaking. And notice in Part 2 when “MJ” mentioned about the regrets of being unable to “complete a project that he was working on”. My local newspapers have it that MJ was actually working on a “Thriller” movie, and even had the poster designed personally by himself. I am not sure if this is the “project” which the psychic was talking about though. But I just have had a special feeling when listening to the videos. It was not known, of course, who the “distant family member” was. I just find it weird that she is able to say out stuff that only MJ may know himself. But well, its up to your belief. I am sure  most of us here will choose not to believe in all these paranomal stuff, either.. because we sooo hope that he is alive! (but somehow, it disheartened me a little (to be honest) when watching these.)

I would rather hope that MJ is in a coma now rather than die. and I wonder if psychics are able to channel “spirits” from coma patients. Because if they can, there is still a glimpse of hope that our dear MJ is not totally dead. Sorry about my gibberish, guys. I hope I don't sound like a lunatic here. *embarrassed* For those non-believers, you can just treat this as “entertainment” purpose. No offence to anyone! ~_~

Part 1:


Part 2:

“Yoohoo!!”

9:21 pm
July 23, 2009


MyBelovedMJ

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Post edited 2:22 pm – July 24, 2009 by MyBelovedMJ


moonwalker_girl said:

Hi guys,

Apologies for my psychic topics, but just found something online which made me ponder for a moment :

(This site contains all the odd information:)

http://www.sdparanormal.com/Mi…..ckson.html


I would normally doubt this kinda stuff, but it was said that : (adapted from site)
Part 1:

This video has been confirmed to be Michael Jackson by a distant “non-famous” family member.  She received a personal message as well that tracked back to time spent together in Gary, IN.

07/09/09 8:00am PT The family member confirmed her personal message as being time spent with Michael Jackson in Gary Indiana before the Jackson 5 became famous. 


07/10/09 2:44pm PT The family member watched the video recording and confirmed that she feels this is Michael Jackson. 

07/14/09 – ABCNews ran a tease that included “never before seen” footage of Katherine Jackson from 2003.  She speaks in a similar tone as the spirit person in the video above.  Including using the word “STOP” and calling people mean.  The spirit person used the word “STOP” several times and said people were “not nice”.  on-family/2233865943http://video.aol.com/video-det…..eds-light-

For easier viewing, below are the 2 videos of the “medium” who managed to channel MJ. I personally feel that it is CREEPY because there really was a “MJ feel” when she was speaking. And notice in Part 2 when “MJ” mentioned about the regrets of being unable to “complete a project that he was working on”. My local newspapers have it that MJ was actually working on a “Thriller” movie, and even had the poster designed personally by himself. I am not sure if this is the “project” which the psychic was talking about though. But I just have had a special feeling when listening to the videos. It was not known, of course, who the “distant family member” was. I just find it weird that she is able to say out stuff that only MJ may know himself. But well, its up to your belief. I am sure  most of us here will choose not to believe in all these paranomal stuff, either.. because we sooo hope that he is alive! (but somehow, it disheartened me a little (to be honest) when watching these.)

I would rather hope that MJ is in a coma now rather than die. and I wonder if psychics are able to channel “spirits” from coma patients. Because if they can, there is still a glimpse of hope that our dear MJ is not totally dead. Sorry about my gibberish, guys. I hope I don't sound like a lunatic here. *embarrassed* For those non-believers, you can just treat this as “entertainment” purpose. No offence to anyone! ~_~




Part 2:



WTF was she on?

Listen to how she says Michael is talking to her. He says ” I dont know what to do next” EHHH if you are dead there isent really much to do about it is there?

She is also saying that he says ” How do i protect my family, there is alot of people talking about me”

How the hell do you know people are talking about you if you are dead?


Im just saying


9:30 pm
July 23, 2009


azriensarai

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This is B.S. why don’t she go take the challege because I am not convinced, what to know more about the challege? click on this: http://www.randi.org/site/inde…..lenge.html

Love + Trust = Faith x Patience

9:33 pm
July 23, 2009


moonwalker_girl

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Haha, good observation. I can add this to my “list of doubts”. This was one of her replies found in the page:

Hi BugottiGirl, I cannot speak for others, but in my experience they communicate back either because they have unfinished business and need assistance or they want to get information back to us. It is common knowledge that MJ has more than his fair share of unfinished business. There are also lessons for us in the message if we choose to listen. In my experience the personality remains after death and this seems to be the case here.

Thx for the great question.
Bonnie Vent

“Yoohoo!!”

9:34 pm
July 23, 2009


shyone

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I am sorry but I don't buy it. I wasn't convinced at all. All that has been going on about MJ since his death. Everybody wants to jump on board. Everyone has something to say. I don't recall who said it earlier but it was true. When MJ died why didn't a doctor come out and brief the press? We only heard about his initial death through TMZ and Jermaine. Enough is enough. What next? Just keep the faith!

9:52 pm
July 23, 2009


Whispering Wishes

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If you look at her eyes very closely in the videos, it looks like her eyes are tracking as though she’s reading something. It goes on throughout both videos often. Is it possible that Michael isn’t dead to begin with, and he has hired this woman to “talk” to the world for him to let them know he’s okay, and ease the pain of his fans? Either that or I feel like this woman is trying to, as in her own words, “Get a piece of Michael Jackson.” Something doesn’t seem right about her…the way “Michael” talks…helping with research, etc…I don’t know. A lot is spoken in present tense, saying he’s going to do things that aren’t possible if he’s dead. His speech is way too detailed and comprehensible as well as conversational, easy flowing, etc. His example of the movie “Ghost”? I’m sorry, but I don’t believe this lady. I’m not saying I don’t believe in any paranormal, I just don’t believe HER.

He who has a “why” to live for can bear with almost any “how.” – Friedrich Nietzsche

10:05 pm
July 23, 2009


kenthy

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I had watched the video


what does it mean? is he alive or dead?

I think I am lost?  Do you really believe in this video?  hmm….

I just hope this is not another person wanting to earn $$ upon MJ's death since no one can really verify if this video is real.

If he really passed on (*crossing my fingers that it is not true) only God knows and able help him.

10:13 pm
July 23, 2009


moonwalker_girl

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kenthy said:

I had watched the video


what does it mean? is he alive or dead?

I think I am lost?  Do you really believe in this video?  hmm….

I just hope this is not another person wanting to earn $$ upon MJ's death since no one can really verify if this video is real.

If he really passed on (*crossing my fingers that it is not true) only God knows and able help him.


Personally, I doubt this woman would want to rip $$ from the whole thing. She seems to have a reputation to keep and she had been doing this for several years, helping the loved ones of the deceased. I did not want to believe it too, but some of the stuff she mentioned puzzled me. It was like she knew something that only MJ would know himself.

Its hard to verify paranomal stuff, I am just hanging on to a 50/50 state.

“Yoohoo!!”

10:15 pm
July 23, 2009


moonwalker_girl

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Whispering Wishes said:

If you look at her eyes very closely in the videos, it looks like her eyes are tracking as though she’s reading something. It goes on throughout both videos often. Is it possible that Michael isn’t dead to begin with, and he has hired this woman to “talk” to the world for him to let them know he’s okay, and ease the pain of his fans? Either that or I feel like this woman is trying to, as in her own words, “Get a piece of Michael Jackson.” Something doesn’t seem right about her…the way “Michael” talks…helping with research, etc…I don’t know. A lot is spoken in present tense, saying he’s going to do things that aren’t possible if he’s dead. His speech is way too detailed and comprehensible as well as conversational, easy flowing, etc. His example of the movie “Ghost”? I’m sorry, but I don’t believe this lady. I’m not saying I don’t believe in any paranormal, I just don’t believe HER.


Her response to this:

I intentionally focus my eyes above or below the camera. People have said that if I look straight into the camera it is too intense. If a person is reading their eyes would move across the page. You can see other videos at spiritadvocate (dot) com for comparison.

Thx,
Bonnie Vent

“Yoohoo!!”

10:34 pm
July 23, 2009


Whispering Wishes

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Florida, USA

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Where she focuses her eyes isn’t the problem…it’s the subtle movements of them. In college, I remember taking a Sensation and Perception class, and most of the course was about eyes. It went over the tiny movements, reactions, anatomy, diseases, biology, body language (such as being able to detect deceit, etc., but I’ve had other classes that included body language as well)…the entire likes of the eyes. My teacher was previously an eye doctor before he became a psychologist (I’m studying for my Master’s in pyschology now, but will be switching to education), and so the class was able to learn MUCH more than what the book taught us. To read, people switch back and forth between involuntary movements of their eyes, called saccades and fixations. Putting everything together, it honestly looks like this person is reading rather than only focusing on a lower point away from the camera. Her eyes have an even, steady tracking, and her iris and pupils move at a steady rate in the correct direction as when a person reads the English language. There are also phrases and words, the way they were put together, that I’ve never heard Michael use before.

He who has a “why” to live for can bear with almost any “how.” – Friedrich Nietzsche

10:41 pm
July 23, 2009


kenthy

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@moonwalker_gir

Is the psychics famous? I am not from the states hence have no idea….

kindly enlighten us more on her?

11:01 pm
July 23, 2009


moonwalker_girl

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kenthy said:

@moonwalker_gir

Is the psychics famous? I am not from the states hence have no idea….

kindly enlighten us more on her?


Mini Bio:

Bonnie Vent is the owner of San Diego Paranormal Research Project and Genesis Creations Entertainment. She is a medium and researcher located in San Diego, CA.with 20+ years of experience as a “Spirit Advocate”. Bonnie Vent is the host of the documentary “Conversations with the Dead”. Featuring the Hotel Del Coronado in San Diego, CA, Paranormal Consultant for the nationally syndicated television show “Macabre Theatre”,International syndicator of Paranormal News. Bonnie Vent’s Book Contributions: The Encyclopedia of Haunted Places, The Haunted Whaley House, Weird California (release date TBD), San Diego Ghosts (release date TBD) Video – San Diego City’s Most Haunted, Hillside Haunting, numerous local television news interviews.

If you want to know even more about her, feel free to visit this page: http://www.sdparanormal.com/pa…..199119.htm

 

“Yoohoo!!”

11:24 pm
July 23, 2009


Whispering Wishes

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Still, watch her eyes more closely in the videos. It’s not 100% of the time she appears to be reading, but it’s still pretty often.

Psychics aren’t always correct…even now, regarding Michael, a lot of them say different things, and someone has to be wrong. Even other psychics (famous or not) thought to be reputable have been shown to be wrong, and/or not so real.

It could easily be possible that Michael could have hired her as a way to continue to communicate with his fans, etc….yet STILL be alive. He only has to write something, and have her read it from a screen or something, and it could be taken as the truth by people. In order for Michael’s hoax to get so far, MANY people in many fields have to be in on it working with him somehow, and I wouldn’t be suprised if he’s using her as a way to comfort us for the time being. Now, I don’t know if this would serve in the theory that Michael would make his comeback soon, or stay out of the public eye for the rest of his life…but it’s still a means to communicate with the world. How come Michael never addressed anything about some of his fans committing suicide, etc.? I’m sure he’d say something (if he’s mentioning so many other things and is aware of everything the media is saying)about how sad he was to know about that, and say something to prevent more suicides, etc.

He who has a “why” to live for can bear with almost any “how.” – Friedrich Nietzsche

8:50 am
July 24, 2009


closepaltomj

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Not MJ’s manner of speaking–channelled or not–very depressing bunch of #@@#$.

11:20 am
July 24, 2009


lets talk

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Bonnie Vent and Sylvia Browne are both famous !!  However many people have said that nothing that told them came true.

Bonnie Vent can say just about anything unless your personally know him, how would you know.  I think all

mediums need to leave Michaels spirit alone.  All they are doing is trying tio make money and fame off of a man who clearly

needs rest.  I am quite sure that Mj if he has died knows that he is dead.  Cmon people !!!  Don't believe these quacks !!

I know someone who personally knows Jackson, and she treid to contact Vent by phone and email, and Vent has yet to call

because Vent is a fake and she knows she will be found out !!!

11:27 am
July 24, 2009


Shikster

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I think Bonnie forgot to take her meds that week

Blessed are those who see and believe. More blessed are those who do not see and still believe.

2:43 pm
July 24, 2009


ishealive

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I thought that was really weird, I think she has studied Michael alot, that would be his manner but it’s aload of crap i think.
Just say he is dead and talking to her why is he speaking in the present tense and why is he saying his concern is his family and bla bla bla, he can’t help them if he’s dead, I don’t believe this. Even if Michael is in a coma and talking to her how the hell would he know what’s going on in the world if he’s asleep unless it’s like the movie “Just like heaven”
She was saying he wanted to thank her and not to treat her badly – yeah right more like she was saying all that.
She’s trying to cash in.

4:11 am
August 2, 2009


Samantha

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She made a very big slip, When she was repeating his words, sounds almost his alive espically when you’re thinking “You don’t know whats going to happen next, and i don’t know what to do”
Hm..

4:46 am
August 2, 2009


CantStopLovingU

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Dont believe it. So she sits down in front of the video camera and at that exact moment, she is able to channel Michael? Can you imagine how many people are trying to contact him? Oh Lord

4:49 am
August 2, 2009


nina

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what do you think about this?
http://cherokeebillie.wordpress.com/
I don’t know what to think…..
what if….

“Love it’s like a bar of soap in the bathtub — you have it in your hand until you hold on too tight.” “As long as love is in my heart, it’s everywhere.” …………….Michael Jackson………..

4:50 am
August 2, 2009


watthhel

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For parapsychologist there IS the dead not the end. So he dont know what to do now…. in his life after dead. But for me: Hes alive – now and on earth…..

MyBelovedMJ said:

Post edited 2:22 pm – July 24, 2009 by MyBelovedMJ


moonwalker_girl said:

Hi guys,

Apologies for my psychic topics, but just found something online which made me ponder for a moment :

(This site contains all the odd information:)

http://www.sdparanormal.com/Mi…..ckson.html


I would normally doubt this kinda stuff, but it was said that : (adapted from site)
Part 1:

This video has been confirmed to be Michael Jackson by a distant “non-famous” family member.  She received a personal message as well that tracked back to time spent together in Gary, IN.

07/09/09 8:00am PT The family member confirmed her personal message as being time spent with Michael Jackson in Gary Indiana before the Jackson 5 became famous. 


07/10/09 2:44pm PT The family member watched the video recording and confirmed that she feels this is Michael Jackson. 

07/14/09 – ABCNews ran a tease that included “never before seen” footage of Katherine Jackson from 2003.  She speaks in a similar tone as the spirit person in the video above.  Including using the word “STOP” and calling people mean.  The spirit person used the word “STOP” several times and said people were “not nice”.  on-family/2233865943http://video.aol.com/video-det…..eds-light-

For easier viewing, below are the 2 videos of the “medium” who managed to channel MJ. I personally feel that it is CREEPY because there really was a “MJ feel” when she was speaking. And notice in Part 2 when “MJ” mentioned about the regrets of being unable to “complete a project that he was working on”. My local newspapers have it that MJ was actually working on a “Thriller” movie, and even had the poster designed personally by himself. I am not sure if this is the “project” which the psychic was talking about though. But I just have had a special feeling when listening to the videos. It was not known, of course, who the “distant family member” was. I just find it weird that she is able to say out stuff that only MJ may know himself. But well, its up to your belief. I am sure  most of us here will choose not to believe in all these paranomal stuff, either.. because we sooo hope that he is alive! (but somehow, it disheartened me a little (to be honest) when watching these.)

I would rather hope that MJ is in a coma now rather than die. and I wonder if psychics are able to channel “spirits” from coma patients. Because if they can, there is still a glimpse of hope that our dear MJ is not totally dead. Sorry about my gibberish, guys. I hope I don't sound like a lunatic here. *embarrassed* For those non-believers, you can just treat this as “entertainment” purpose. No offence to anyone! ~_~




Part 2:



WTF was she on?

Listen to how she says Michael is talking to her. He says ” I dont know what to do next” EHHH if you are dead there isent really much to do about it is there?

She is also saying that he says ” How do i protect my family, there is alot of people talking about me”

How the hell do you know people are talking about you if you are dead?


Im just saying



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