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12:46 pm
July 14, 2009


Wendy Darling

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He always have been very innovative in his clips and music, and perhaps the theory of virtual reality sounds crazy, but still plausible according to his career. I´m agree,  If this were certain, he could get a quiet life and nobody will know his whereabouts.

But this kind of magic only could last few time. And I hope so  


And he is not old to tour!!!!, how you dare say that? Seeing the last rehersals footage he looks as young and beautiful as  in the 90´s, when I saw him in Spain when I was teenager.

I love you Michael

12:49 pm
July 14, 2009


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I suppose you read this blog, why you are sure about his dead??

I love you Michael

8:49 pm
July 18, 2009


mjfan

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Wendy Darling said:

He always have been very innovative in his clips and music, and perhaps the theory of virtual reality sounds crazy, but still plausible according to his career. I´m agree,  If this were certain, he could get a quiet life and nobody will know his whereabouts.

But this kind of magic only could last few time. And I hope so  


And he is not old to tour!!!!, how you dare say that? Seeing the last rehersals footage he looks as young and beautiful as  in the 90´s, when I saw him in Spain when I was teenager.


If you say so. I'm not trying to be offensive but the man had some injuries and wasn't as young as he used to be.  There is no crime in that.  And I have a right to my opinion.


Why do I think he's dead?  Because he would go to prison for fraud if he wasn't and if he was found out.  Too many people would have to be in on it to make it work, and why would MJ who couldn't trust anyone in life, put himself in the position to trust SO MANY people in death.  I think a lot of you folks are kind of loony personally.  I understand not wanting to let him go, but acting like people who believe he's dead are insane or haters is a little over the top.

10:11 pm
July 18, 2009


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mjfan said:

Wendy Darling said:

He always have been very innovative in his clips and music, and perhaps the theory of virtual reality sounds crazy, but still plausible according to his career. I´m agree,  If this were certain, he could get a quiet life and nobody will know his whereabouts.

But this kind of magic only could last few time. And I hope so  


And he is not old to tour!!!!, how you dare say that? Seeing the last rehersals footage he looks as young and beautiful as  in the 90´s, when I saw him in Spain when I was teenager.


If you say so. I'm not trying to be offensive but the man had some injuries and wasn't as young as he used to be.  There is no crime in that.  And I have a right to my opinion.


Why do I think he's dead?  Because he would go to prison for fraud if he wasn't and if he was found out.  Too many people would have to be in on it to make it work, and why would MJ who couldn't trust anyone in life, put himself in the position to trust SO MANY people in death.  I think a lot of you folks are kind of loony personally.  I understand not wanting to let him go, but acting like people who believe he's dead are insane or haters is a little over the top.


I actually agree with you. However; I don't think he would be in trouble. Supposedly, There has been no physician's signature on the death certificate. I'm sure the family may or may not cash in on his insurance policy or any of his funds for that matter. I am here only for the fact because I hope to find out theories and clues that are possibly related to unsure circumstances. I always feel the possibility of him not being alive. I feel that. I'm ready for anything. I just happen to think that with all of this madness surrounding his death, There is that possibility as well as he could be here, On this planet.

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10:53 pm
July 18, 2009


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Post edited 4:05 pm – July 19, 2009 by well


mjfan said:

Wendy Darling said:

He always have been very innovative in his clips and music, and perhaps the theory of virtual reality sounds crazy, but still plausible according to his career. I´m agree,  If this were certain, he could get a quiet life and nobody will know his whereabouts.

But this kind of magic only could last few time. And I hope so  


And he is not old to tour!!!!, how you dare say that? Seeing the last rehersals footage he looks as young and beautiful as  in the 90´s, when I saw him in Spain when I was teenager.


If you say so. I'm not trying to be offensive but the man had some injuries and wasn't as young as he used to be.  There is no crime in that.  And I have a right to my opinion.


Why do I think he's dead?  Because he would go to prison for fraud if he wasn't and if he was found out.  Too many people would have to be in on it to make it work, and why would MJ who couldn't trust anyone in life, put himself in the position to trust SO MANY people in death.  I think a lot of you folks are kind of loony personally.  I understand not wanting to let him go, but acting like people who believe he's dead are insane or haters is a little over the top.


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3:27 pm
July 19, 2009


mjfan

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Wendy Darling said:

He always have been very innovative in his clips and music, and perhaps the theory of virtual reality sounds crazy, but still plausible according to his career. I´m agree,  If this were certain, he could get a quiet life and nobody will know his whereabouts.

But this kind of magic only could last few time. And I hope so  


And he is not old to tour!!!!, how you dare say that? Seeing the last rehersals footage he looks as young and beautiful as  in the 90´s, when I saw him in Spain when I was teenager.


Again NO offense, but I think some people's love of MJ is clouding their reality.  I love MJ too, BUT, I have SEEN his old tour footage and I have SEEN the rehearsal footage.  I'm sorry but he was NOT as energetic as he was.  He was a little “off.” Again, IN MY OPINION.  This is not a character flaw. He was 50, not 30. Crap happens, the body changes. It's understandable.  And maybe he was in some pain or not giving 110% in the rehearsal.  But it just wasn't the same, IMO.  I think he may have had a hard time pulling off 50 high energy long concerts like that. 


Please understand, MJ is a human being.  MJ has had back problems.  MJ was 50.  None of these things are crimes, but it is what it is.

3:28 pm
July 19, 2009


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Ack, sorry.  What I was replying to there I thought was a new post, but it was an old post.  The way the pages were lining up was all wrong.  My apologies to replying to something I already replied to.

3:31 pm
July 19, 2009


mjfan

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SkylinexBleedsxRed said:

mjfan said:

Wendy Darling said:

He always have been very innovative in his clips and music, and perhaps the theory of virtual reality sounds crazy, but still plausible according to his career. I´m agree,  If this were certain, he could get a quiet life and nobody will know his whereabouts.

But this kind of magic only could last few time. And I hope so  


And he is not old to tour!!!!, how you dare say that? Seeing the last rehersals footage he looks as young and beautiful as  in the 90´s, when I saw him in Spain when I was teenager.


If you say so. I'm not trying to be offensive but the man had some injuries and wasn't as young as he used to be.  There is no crime in that.  And I have a right to my opinion.


Why do I think he's dead?  Because he would go to prison for fraud if he wasn't and if he was found out.  Too many people would have to be in on it to make it work, and why would MJ who couldn't trust anyone in life, put himself in the position to trust SO MANY people in death.  I think a lot of you folks are kind of loony personally.  I understand not wanting to let him go, but acting like people who believe he's dead are insane or haters is a little over the top.


I actually agree with you. However; I don't think he would be in trouble. Supposedly, There has been no physician's signature on the death certificate. I'm sure the family may or may not cash in on his insurance policy or any of his funds for that matter. I am here only for the fact because I hope to find out theories and clues that are possibly related to unsure circumstances. I always feel the possibility of him not being alive. I feel that. I'm ready for anything. I just happen to think that with all of this madness surrounding his death, There is that possibility as well as he could be here, On this planet.


 I think personally that it's more likely he was murdered and that's what a lot of the weirdness is about.  I agree that nothing adds up, I just don't personally feel that it's cause he's alive.  Also, true on the death certificate thing.  I just think that regardless of that, people would try to get him for fraud.  He fought hard to stay out of prison in 2005. I dont' know why he'd do something so risky now.


In addition, he lived a fairly peaceful existence for several years both in Bahrain and in Ireland.  He didn't NEED to do this to get some peace.  All he needed to do was avoid living in England or the USA.  There are still plenty of quiet small places in the world where he could have found some peace, without faking his death.

5:32 pm
July 19, 2009


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mjfan said:

SkylinexBleedsxRed said:

mjfan said:

Wendy Darling said:

He always have been very innovative in his clips and music, and perhaps the theory of virtual reality sounds crazy, but still plausible according to his career. I´m agree,  If this were certain, he could get a quiet life and nobody will know his whereabouts.

But this kind of magic only could last few time. And I ho


And he is not old to tour!!!!, how you dare say that? Seeing the last rehersals footage he looks as young and beautiful as  in the 90´s, when I saw him in Spain when I was teenager.


If you say so. I'm not trying to be offensive but the man had some injuries and wasn't as young as he used to be.  There is no crime in that.  And I have a right to my opinion.


Why do I think he's dead?  Because he would go to prison for fraud if he wasn't and if he was found out.  Too many people would have to be in on it to make it work, and why would MJ who couldn't trust anyone in life, put himself in the position to trust SO MANY people in death.  I think a lot of you folks are kind of loony personally.  I understand not wanting to let him go, but acting like people who believe he's dead are insane or haters is a little over the top.


I actually agree with you. However; I don't think he would be in trouble. Supposedly, There has been no physician's signature on the death certificate. I'm sure the family may or may not cash in on his insurance policy or any of his funds for that matter. I am here only for the fact because I hope to find out theories and clues that are possibly related to unsure circumstances. I always feel the possibility of him not being alive. I feel that. I'm ready for anything. I just happen to think that with all of this madness surrounding his death, There is that possibility as well as he could be here, On this planet.


 I think personally that it's more likely he was murdered and that's what a lot of the weirdness is about.  I agree that nothing adds up, I just don't personally feel that it's cause he's alive.  Also, true on the death certificate thing.  I just think that regardless of that, people would try to get him for fraud.  He fought hard to stay out of prison in 2005. I dont' know why he'd do something so risky now.


In addition, he lived a fairly peaceful existence for several years both in Bahrain and in Ireland.  He didn't NEED to do this to get some peace.  All he needed to do was avoid living in England or the USA.  There are still plenty of quiet small places in the world where he could have found some peace, without faking his death.


Yes, I sometimes I talk enthusiatically without thinking enough. Every day I change my mind and now I think the video rehersal at 02 were made by an impersonator.  Anyway I´m beggining to loose my mind cause i don´t really knew he have lots Impersonators.

People with 50 years aren´t old. Look Bruce Springteen, Jagger or Iggy Pop, older than him. Michael has a life much more healthy than two last of them, and the age is something relative. All  depends on the way you look the life, sometimes the time pass quickly and you are the same inner and outer, and the chronological age not correspond  to the appearance. In fact I have been seeing pictures of him in 2009, and he looks very well.

I agree, the rythme of a tour must be exhausting for anyone, but not for the age. Of course he should take care  of himself if he has his back a bit  bad, when the back pains  is horrible, and I supposed he has to adapt the pace of the work

I think he is really alive, and the logical reason is explained in every corner of this blog. If he came back, it would be asthonishing, and perhaps he won´have problems. What if the body wasn´t him and made a mistake at the hospital?

The only problem would be the media, cause probably they will start to critizise him, without considering the true facts. It´s always the same.


I love you Michael

12:28 am
July 20, 2009


eva05

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Sosh said:

I also hope he makes a massive comeback. However, this aint gonna happen. If it wasn't setup by AEG, Michael will have to pay for massive losses. A new tour won't work, as his fans don't trust him anymore. Buying a ticket for a concert that has a high chance of cancelation, no way people let that happen twice.


But what, in my opinion, is the purpose of this site: Trying to get evidence if Michael is dead or alive, so we know he can RIP or LIP. And in the last case, he can also make music and sell it as unreleased material.



yes… I think so too. He will live his life in peace somewhere and still make music as “previously unreleased material”…

1:59 am
July 20, 2009


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I think a lot of people have taken my “he was too old to tour” personally.  Folks like Iggy Pop and Mick Jagger to not do SUPER long concerts with really high energy complicated dance moves.  Michael's shows were in a class by themselves and this was slated to be no different.


Plus, dancing creates wear and tear on the body, especially THIS type of herky-jerky dancing that MJ does.  The only dance form I'm aware of that doesn't damage the body over time is bellydance.  Other dance, ballet, jazz, funk, hip hop, over time the body can't take it anymore.  MJ was dancing like this since he was 5 or 6.  That is a far LONGER dancing career than most dancers ever have.  He had some back problems, common sense would tell you he had some knee problems as well. 


I do not personally feel he was up to that many concerts for these reasons.  I was a dancer, I am speaking to you as someone who knows a little bit about what strenuous long term dance can do to a person's body.  There is a reason most dancers have very short dancing careers.  Mj's was way longer than most people's.


As for the O2 announcement, I totally think that was an impersonator as well.  For me it's mostly that ridiculous swagger, as well as his almost bragadocious manner, he wasn't like that.  ANd the accent was all WRONG.  Not just the tone or pitch of voice, but the ACCENT.  Totally not MJ.  His voice is very recognizable.  I don't know that that has anything to do with his death or his “death” for hoax believers, but for whatever reason, that wasn't MJ at the press conference in London.

10:21 am
July 20, 2009


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mjfan said:

I think a lot of people have taken my “he was too old to tour” personally.  Folks like Iggy Pop and Mick Jagger to not do SUPER long concerts with really high energy complicated dance moves.  Michael's shows were in a class by themselves and this was slated to be no different.


Plus, dancing creates wear and tear on the body, especially THIS type of herky-jerky dancing that MJ does.  The only dance form I'm aware of that doesn't damage the body over time is bellydance.  Other dance, ballet, jazz, funk, hip hop, over time the body can't take it anymore.  MJ was dancing like this since he was 5 or 6.  That is a far LONGER dancing career than most dancers ever have.  He had some back problems, common sense would tell you he had some knee problems as well. 


I do not personally feel he was up to that many concerts for these reasons.  I was a dancer, I am speaking to you as someone who knows a little bit about what strenuous long term dance can do to a person's body.  There is a reason most dancers have very short dancing careers.  Mj's was way longer than most people's.


As for the O2 announcement, I totally think that was an impersonator as well.  For me it's mostly that ridiculous swagger, as well as his almost bragadocious manner, he wasn't like that.  ANd the accent was all WRONG.  Not just the tone or pitch of voice, but the ACCENT.  Totally not MJ.  His voice is very recognizable.  I don't know that that has anything to do with his death or his “death” for hoax believers, but for whatever reason, that wasn't MJ at the press conference in London.


Yes these folks ( Jagger,Pop) only run from one side to another on the stage an do St Vitus Dance ( I don´t know if this have the same connotation in english). MJackson always  look younger than he really is, but i´m agree with you, too much time dancing and he always wanted to give the best to fans. Maybe now he can´t do it, and sometimes people are selfish asking for him to give the same superhuman energy in shows.

The only thing i don´t understand is why 50 concerts in the same city? maybe AEG deceived him, and he decided do something, furthermore considering the constantly rumours that eventually has taken place about his “death”. The role of AEG in this matter is still unclear to me.

I have been thinking so much about the doubles, that I wonder if Michael sometimes “turn the screw” and sometimes acting like an impersonator of himself…  maybe the 02 press conference was real Michael acting. I can imagine him doing this kind of  funny things. and this would be part of the hoax from the beggining. Then…where and who is the” body” ? I have to read everything again and think hard.

His possible come back worry me. Like I said above, people sometimes are selfish and only want to see  the artist again .But I don´t want  he may suffer legal problems for any reason. This situation is so weird that i really can´t figure what´s going to happen with justice if he´ll come back


I love you Michael

11:48 pm
July 20, 2009


mjfan

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That's a really good point about maybe the O2 guy being MJ pulling a prank and acting not like himself to see if anyone would notice. LOLOL who knows.  Possibly.


The tour wasn't really a “tour” so much as it was a residency.  He was going to be put up in a hotel and do 50 performances all at the O2.  He was supposed to do like 2-3 performances a week at the same venue.  Without all the travel and jet lag, I think he could have done it on that level.  I just think the show was too long and complex and high energy.  I think it would have worn on him.  I'm not saying he “couldn't” do it.  But it would be really hard.  I also don't think it would be the same MJ people remembered exactly from 12 years ago.


Though I do think it's obvious from some of the comments here that people can't see the difference in MJ dancing 12 years later as a 50 year old man who hasn't toured in awhile.  And if that is the case with most hard core fans, i guess they wouldn't have been disappointed.  I don't think he would have given a disappointing show by any stretch of the imagination but i think HE might have been disappointed with it, since hey, he's 50, stuff happens to the body.

11:09 am
July 21, 2009


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monij said:

smileygirl24 said:

ejay5131 said:

Post edited 10:56 am – July 13, 2009 by ejay5131


I love the forum, however I'm not liking the people coming to it  so they can specifically tell us he's dead. If you truly believe that, than why do you feel the need to be on this site? I'm just saying.


I totally think he's alive, somewhere. But I think the idea of him coming back  to the public eye and this being a publicity stunt for a massive come back is unlikely. Maybe..had they not had the whole Staples memorial but I think that was done to “seal the deal”. Michael has done some different things in his life for sure, but faking your death for a massive comeback is a far cry from dancing on the roof of your SUV at your trial.


I've said this before on June 25/2009 at 2:26pm, Michael Jackson, the king of pop died.


And on June 25/2009 at OR around 2:30pm, a new life, free of hounding media, false accusations and scrutiny was born. We, the fans, will never see him again. I love you MJ and will miss your presence here in OUR world but hope you are finding happiness and peace in YOUR world


Yes i agree people come on this page talk smack and say let him rest in peace?? Whaaaaaaaaaaat??

Why are they on here i mean it does say HOAX DEATH….Go find a puzzle or mafia wars or something then to sit around and judge us.

BTW see thats what i think if he is truly alive then your right we'll never know because why would he fake his death its NATIONAL NEWS

i honestly think he's living a peaceful life and so much happier now then what he was.

and i  think he knows we love him and he's happy to know fans like us are keeping him alive and bringing the truth about him and so he knows we know him and love him dearly and never believed the STUPID MEDIA we are his true fans always have and will be.


NOW LETS ALL GET TOGETHER FOR A TOAST FOR MIKEY =D


i looooooooooooooooooooove you M-J forever and always.


I want to believe it is a hoax, but all evidence so far in my opinion point at him being murdered, therefore dead. I love Michael Jackson, I don't want him to be dead, that is why I keep coming back to this forum, searching for the missing puzzle piece. If it is a hoax, then it has to be uncovered, either by people like us, or by the media, or by MJ himself. I simply do not agree that we have to accept this hoax if MJ is really dead, because to accept this hoax is like living in denial. I will keep coming back to this site, becaue I really want it to be a hoax, AND I REALLY WANT MJ TO BE BACK AS AN ENTERTAINER, because that is what he loves(d) to do.


IF MJ did fake his death and went through all of this, he is NOT coming back. Why would he come back after going through such lengths to disappear. So, I don't think he will be back.


9:28 am
July 22, 2009


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I was thinking abou this yesterday while walking my dog……………Can you imagaine if MJ ran for President and won? Do you even have any idea how much better this world would be with someone like him in office? WOw….I just blew my own mind!!

11:21 am
July 22, 2009


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THE JACKSONOLOGIST said:

I was thinking abou this yesterday while walking my dog……………Can you imagaine if MJ ran for President and won? Do you even have any idea how much better this world would be with someone like him in office? WOw….I just blew my own mind!!


We can make a political agenda of proposals if he decide back again!  I´m sure everybody will vote him, everybody will trust in him, it would be the end of the media.

I love you Michael

11:27 am
July 22, 2009


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Wendy Darling said:

THE JACKSONOLOGIST said:

I was thinking abou this yesterday while walking my dog……………Can you imagaine if MJ ran for President and won? Do you even have any idea how much better this world would be with someone like him in office? WOw….I just blew my own mind!!


We can make a political agenda of proposals if he decide back again!  I´m sure everybody will vote him, everybody will trust in him, it would be the end of the media.


How it would be his perfect or utopical city? I like imagine things about him like that.

I love you Michael

11:42 am
July 22, 2009


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It s a nice, peaceful thought isnt it?   OMG…….Im crying now thinking about this!! President Jackson. MJ would not put up with anyones crap thats for sure.

11:42 am
July 22, 2009


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It s a nice, peaceful thought isnt it?   OMG…….Im crying now thinking about this!! President Jackson. MJ would not put up with anyones crap thats for sure.

12:05 am
July 23, 2009


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mjfan said:

Wendy Darling said:

@Supermom75 ,  I hope the hologram will be inspired in NEW Michael´s dancings… and if he will decide not come back at his birthday concert,  It will bring us a new shadow or message. Perhaps he would like now to live in a virtual reality until he comes again, if he does, like in the new video game of him! Or maybe he´s going to come back to us only in virtual life!



You know… getting on this whole conspiracy theory thing… I do really believe he's dead, but I still find all this conjecture interesting, IF he had faked his death, he could still be releasing music while having a private life.  Remember how they said there were over 100 recorded songs in his vault?  Maybe there are some songs in the vault, but how would anyone know if a song was recorded 5 years ago or tomorrow?  Theoretically in this alternate universe where MJ is still alive, he could be recording and releasing new music, and they just say it's from the vault.  Just saying.  He's really too old to tour.  But this would allow the focus to be on his music, and post death most artists are more popular than ever.  Plus he could have a private life finally. I still believe he actually died, but as a thought experiment, there's a possibility for a way to continue with music.


either they're cashing in on the whole current wave of publicity, or something else is up, but do you notice with every report you get bout dear Michael somehow record sales of his music or how new music/recordings/etc going to be released/sold is always mentioned?

6:44 am
July 23, 2009


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http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_docu…..sed_wm.pdf


Here is his death certificate..

7:04 am
July 23, 2009


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I don't think MJ would make a good president.  Mainly because in life he had so  many shady characters around him.  He trusted the wrong people.  Imagine how bad that would be in government.

7:43 am
July 23, 2009


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THE JACKSONOLOGIST said:

http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_docu…..sed_wm.pdf


Here is his death certificate..


Is really weird, vague in some details and very precise in othersey

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