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3:39 pm
July 28, 2009


BellaFiga

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Post edited 8:39 am – July 29, 2009 by BellaFiga


Don't give up what?  I'm genuinely baffled by this.  There are two probable scenarios, and in both of them he is in a place where he cannot be bothered any more.  Is that not enough?

3:42 pm
July 28, 2009


Mjhasabigcrotch

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BellaFiga said:

Post edited 3:39 pm – July 28, 2009 by BellaFiga


Don't give up what?  I'm genuinely baffled by this.  There are two probable scenarios, and in both of them he is in a place where he cannot be bothered any more.  Is that not enough?


that's just fine. i hope he is. but i won't accept the fact that he is gone because he is not.

Yum =) you healed the world michael.

3:44 pm
July 28, 2009


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Mjhasabigcrotch said:

BellaFiga said:

Post edited 3:39 pm – July 28, 2009 by BellaFiga


Don't give up what?  I'm genuinely baffled by this.  There are two probable scenarios, and in both of them he is in a place where he cannot be bothered any more.  Is that not enough?


that's just fine. i hope he is. but i won't accept the fact that he is gone because he is not.


If he has faked his death he is still gone; as much as if it is not faked.

3:46 pm
July 28, 2009


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BellaFiga said:

Mjhasabigcrotch said:

BellaFiga said:

Post edited 3:39 pm – July 28, 2009 by BellaFiga


Don't give up what?  I'm genuinely baffled by this.  There are two probable scenarios, and in both of them he is in a place where he cannot be bothered any more.  Is that not enough?


that's just fine. i hope he is. but i won't accept the fact that he is gone because he is not.


If he has faked his death he is still gone; as much as if it is not faked.


true but, mjhd.com needs the truth.

Yum =) you healed the world michael.

3:46 pm
July 28, 2009


Puzzled

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I'm baffled by it too BellaFiga.  I see you're a fellow Brit. Perhaps we're a bit more detached in our approach, I dunno?  I am genuinely fascinated by some of the things that don't appear to add up, and there have been a couple of things on here that have really got me thinking but all this 'don't give up' stuff, 'keep the faith' etc. makes me very wary indeed.  Seems to me some people aren't interested in hearing anything that suggests he might actually be dead, whereas plenty of the people who think he probably is dead seem willing to at least consider the possibility that he isn't.

“I will NEVER give up beliveing, as long as i live. Even if im going to be the last person on earth to belive that he is still alive, I dont care cause i think he is (I truely belive it)”

 … is how one poster puts it. What, NEVER give up believing … even if overwhelming evidence that he has indeed gone on to that great gig in the sky, should present itself?

3:49 pm
July 28, 2009


Mjhasabigcrotch

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Puzzled said:

I'm baffled by it too BellaFiga.  I see you're a fellow Brit. Perhaps we're a bit more detached in our approach, I dunno?  I am genuinely fascinated by some of the things that don't appear to add up, and there have been a couple of things on here that have really got me thinking but all this 'don't give up' stuff, 'keep the faith' etc. makes me very wary indeed.  Seems to me some people aren't interested in hearing anything that suggests he might actually be dead, whereas plenty of the people who think he probably is dead seem willing to at least consider the possibility that he isn't.

“I will NEVER give up beliveing, as long as i live. Even if im going to be the last person on earth to belive that he is still alive, I dont care cause i think he is (I truely belive it)”

 … is how one poster puts it. What, NEVER give up believing … even if overwhelming evidence that he has indeed gone on to that great gig in the sky, should present itself?


well put i might say

Yum =) you healed the world michael.

3:51 pm
July 28, 2009


BellaFiga

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Puzzled said:

I'm baffled by it too BellaFiga.  I see you're a fellow Brit. Perhaps we're a bit more detached in our approach, I dunno?  I am genuinely fascinated by some of the things that don't appear to add up, and there have been a couple of things on here that have really got me thinking but all this 'don't give up' stuff, 'keep the faith' etc. makes me very wary indeed.  Seems to me some people aren't interested in hearing anything that suggests he might actually be dead, whereas plenty of the people who think he probably is dead seem willing to at least consider the possibility that he isn't.

“I will NEVER give up beliveing, as long as i live. Even if im going to be the last person on earth to belive that he is still alive, I dont care cause i think he is (I truely belive it)”

 … is how one poster puts it. What, NEVER give up believing … even if overwhelming evidence that he has indeed gone on to that great gig in the sky, should present itself?


I think maybe you are right about detached Brits!  I too am fascinated by the whole situation, and I genuinely hope wherever MJ is, he now has peace.  I suspect it is a rather more long term peace than some might hope for, but if he's holed up in some castle in the Carpathian mountains, then good for him.  Don't quite know what his kids will find to do there.  Or him.  But anyway…


The truth is one of those things which may never be found.  It's like when a relationship ends on you unexpectedly and you beat yourself to death just trying to find out what happened so you know the truth and can get closure.  When in fact you rarely get the story or if you do it isn't what you want to hear – and closure actually comes anyway after a while.  The end is what happened.  The end is the truth.

4:00 pm
July 28, 2009


Puzzled

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“I suspect it is a rather more long term peace than some might hope for, but if he's holed up in some castle in the Carpathian mountains, then good for him. Don't quite know what his kids will find to do there.  Or him.  But anyway…”


lol that cracked me up (in a good way) and is exactly how I feel about it.  He was very happy in Ireland apparently during the months he lived there.  Some really nice vertabim reports from people who knew him there, in the Irish press.  Obviously completely ignored by the tabloids because (horror of horrors) they all said what a nice normal bloke he was, kicking a ball around with the kids, driving up to Cork for Kentucky Fried Chicken, and loving the sh*te weather because of his skin condition.  No danger of sun damage in the Emerald Isle .. or the mountains of Carpathia probably!  

Would be good to think he'd pulled it off, and was having a good old belly laugh and sticking the V signs up at the tabloids, but. Well, let's just say it's a very big but.

4:03 pm
July 28, 2009


BellaFiga

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haha!  Cork is LOVELY and the countryside around there is really pretty.  I'm glad he enjoyed it there.   aww.

4:10 pm
July 28, 2009


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It's a bit weird what has happened today, lots of people giving up… I'm just clinging more to the idea of the ,before posted, 'most logical theory:he is dead', but anyway i don't want to give up completely, it depends on how events will be developed these days, let's wait! People, don't give up if you don't feel it , just for what some people say, don't allow anybody to change your minds! whatever it is; just do and think what you feel, we will know soon the truth or maybe never? but just wait, at least a little bit more, until we have more clear evidences (both dead and alive).


I think that maybe some people is getting tired of this, or… maybe someone is trying to change our minds for any reason.


This web is specially witty.


(sorry for my English) I wish you, Michael, to be in peace forever, wherever you are, dead or alive. From a non (always) fan, who have always respected him profoundly

4:21 pm
July 28, 2009


Puzzled

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Cherry, it's not weird at all why people are 'giving up', although I'm still not sure what giving up is supposed to mean.  If you mean that some inidividuals, having weighed up the arguments on both sides have made their own personal decision that he is probably dead -that's not giving up. It's just reaching your own conclusion and that's going to happen day by day over a period of time as more and more information emerges. 

As I've said before, alll this 'Don't give up' 'keep the hope', don't be a non-believer' stuff is simply going to alienate people who are genuinely interested in investigating theories and hopefully finding some answers.  Have you read this forum today?  Is it any wonder people are leaving?

No-one can change anyone else's minds.  It's a case of reading as much as you can, and reaching your own personal conclusion which a few of us on here are still trying to do. 

4:23 pm
July 28, 2009


BellaFiga

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yeah.  What Puzzled said.

4:44 pm
July 28, 2009


Cherry

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Post edited 10:02 am – July 29, 2009 by Cherry


Puzzled said:

Cherry, it's not weird at all why people are 'giving up', although I'm still not sure what giving up is supposed to mean.  If you mean that some inidividuals, having weighed up the arguments on both sides have made their own personal decision that he is probably dead -that's not giving up. It's just reaching your own conclusion and that's going to happen day by day over a period of time as more and more information emerges. 

As I've said before, alll this 'Don't give up' 'keep the hope', don't be a non-believer' stuff is simply going to alienate people who are genuinely interested in investigating theories and hopefully finding some answers.  Have you read this forum today?  Is it any wonder people are leaving?

No-one can change anyone else's minds.  It's a case of reading as much as you can, and reaching your own personal conclusion which a few of us on here are still trying to do. 


Oh, maybe i didn't explain myself very well (sorry for my english) i meant 'don't give up hopes', so suddenly, until we have more evidences of the case, of course i know that people must reach their own conclusion (mine is nearer to the death than the hoax by now), but what i thought that was weird is the fact that suddenly today (as far as i read) many people have been posting the conclusion of the 'giving up hopes' or have got to the closure, it seemed to me like a kind of 'chain', i wonder why did so many people get to a closure just today (more than ever)? what did they read or see? maybe i missed something.

I don't know if you know what i mean.

(it's hard to explain it in a foreign language for me).

Sorry if i offended someone, i always try to be very respectul.

(sorry for my English) I wish you, Michael, to be in peace forever, wherever you are, dead or alive. From a non (always) fan, who have always respected him profoundly

4:49 pm
July 28, 2009


BellaFiga

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I don't think you offended anyone, don't worry.

4:52 pm
July 28, 2009


mjlives

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BellaFiga said:

Again, what is it you hope to find?  And more to the point, what would you do with the information if you found it?


For example, if you found there was evidence that MJ and his kids took a plane to – I don't know – Slovenia directly after the memorial service.  What then?


Use it to construct a more valid opinion, of course. If there was evidence MJ and his kids took a plane to Slovenia after the memorial, then we'd know he was still alive, and we could stop searching for answers. We'd have reasonable evidence to believe in one theory over another. What constitutes “reasonable” is different for different people though obviously, so I can understand if some people have already accepted he's dead.

<- smooth criminal :)

4:57 pm
July 28, 2009


BellaFiga

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Fair enough.  It may be necessary to accept that this information may never be forthcoming though.  We may never know if he's dead or playing dead.

5:01 pm
July 28, 2009


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^True, but if we've got time.. why not wait? We know more now than we did a week ago; far more than we did a month before. The truth might never completely be revealed, but we'll get closer to it the more time that passes.

<- smooth criminal :)

5:10 pm
July 28, 2009


Mjhasabigcrotch

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mjlives said:

^True, but if we've got time.. why not wait? We know more now than we did a week ago; far more than we did a month before. The truth might never completely be revealed, but we'll get closer to it the more time that passes.


true. but i will get the truth, i won't stop till i get enough =) heheh

Yum =) you healed the world michael.

5:15 pm
July 28, 2009


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Post edited 10:16 am – July 29, 2009 by mjlives


Mjhasabigcrotch said:

mjlives said:

^True, but if we've got time.. why not wait? We know more now than we did a week ago; far more than we did a month before. The truth might never completely be revealed, but we'll get closer to it the more time that passes.


true. but i will get the truth, i won't stop till i get enough =) heheh


haaha yes don't stop till you get enough I love your username btw!

<- smooth criminal :)

5:24 pm
July 28, 2009


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mjlives said:

Post edited 5:16 pm – July 28, 2009 by mjlives


Mjhasabigcrotch said:

mjlives said:

^True, but if we've got time.. why not wait? We know more now than we did a week ago; far more than we did a month before. The truth might never completely be revealed, but we'll get closer to it the more time that passes.


true. but i will get the truth, i won't stop till i get enough =) heheh


haaha yes don't stop till you get enough I love your username btw!


About your name MJhasabigcrocth.


Do you know something the rest of us dont LOL???

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