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12:43 pm
July 13, 2009
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dianafan
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I'm sure that we are missing some things, ie the I'm alive and here forever, Fair enough I believe that they are words from a song.
But why these words? Why are they phrased this way? Not really an appropriate choice for a a funeral/memorial
This is an anagram of something I'm 100%, but I'm not doing very well with it. I can find some good words which won't link together to form a sentence, and can find better words which do link, but with letters left over.
Ha ha spent hours at work on this, so can someone else come up with something – I may get fired at this rate – especially as I was posting from work too!!!!
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1:30 pm
July 13, 2009
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In the blog someone posted this text is from the song 'The man'
I also listened to the song 'Money' on the HIStory album today. When you listen to the lyrics, they describe probably the situation of MIchael for the last months best.
Money.
Money…
Lie for it
Spy for it
Kill for it
Die for it
So you call it trust
But I say it's just
In the devil's game
Of greed and lust
They don't care
They'd do me for the money
They don't care
They use me for the money
So you go to church
Read the Holy word
In the scheme of life
It's all absurd
They don't care
They'd kill for the money
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3:24 pm
July 13, 2009
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yaya
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also the song “morphine”. specifically the lyrics saying, “oh God, he's taking demerol……you just sit around talking nothing about it.”
i'm certain he was capable of using subliminal messages (positive ones), especially being friends with uri geller. people have referred to him in the present tense as well. barry gordy nipped in the bud the rumor of his body being held at his crypt, which i thought was odd in itself. who happens to just have a crypt in their house?
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3:50 pm
July 13, 2009
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vyse
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possible anagrams with that sentence
http://wordsmith.org/anagram/a…..=n&k=1
47620 results 
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3:53 pm
July 13, 2009
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Post edited 8:56 am – July 14, 2009 by mir26
I saw earlier today on here someone made a post of the memorial where jennifer hudson sang will you be there(dont know who wrote it sorry) that at the end of the song we hear Michael saying the last words from the song and she said one word was different he said pains when in the original or even in live ones he says pain,I checked this fact of what she says and she is right after listening to several recordings of will you be there he says pain but in the memorial he says pains.
(could it be he attend his own memorial?)
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3:54 pm
July 13, 2009
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vyse said:
possible anagrams with that sentence
http://wordsmith.org/anagram/a…..=n&k=1
47620 results
HAHA good grief.
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3:57 pm
July 13, 2009
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Miss Dahmer
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mir26 said:
I saw earlier today on here someone made a post of the memorial where jennifer hudson sang will you be there(dont know who wrote it sorry) that at the end of the song we hear Michael saying the last words from the song and she said one word was different he said pains when in the original or even in live ones he says pain,I checked this fact of what she says and she is right after listening to several recordings of will you be there he says pain but in the memorial he says pain.
(could it be he attend his own memorial?)
I did the exact same thing. And at the memorial it seemed more emotional than on recordings and what not. I wouldn't doubt it if he was backstage when he was reciting that to everyone!
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4:19 pm
July 13, 2009
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What about the picture at the end of the memorial.
The picture like he's directed the whole memorial.
It's from the video Liberiangirl where he said “Ok everybody,that's a wrap.
http://www.last.fm/music/Micha…..zvGTrqpQp0
And he has such a cute smile.
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4:43 pm
July 13, 2009
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Angel36 said:
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What about the picture at the end of the memorial.
The picture like he's directed the whole memorial.
It's from the video Liberiangirl where he said “Ok everybody,that's a wrap.
http://www.last.fm/music/Micha…..zvGTrqpQp0
And he has such a cute smile.
And in that video, he was sitting back and directing / filming all of the other celebrities featured in the clip.
Is the usage of this same image in the memorial a subliminal message or subtle hint that Michael was, in fact, orchestrating and directing his own memorial? And everyone was just ACTING from SCRIPTS?
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5:17 pm
July 13, 2009
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Francesca
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feyaya: Berry Gordy owns a crypt at the cemetery, not at home 
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5:18 pm
July 13, 2009
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dragon
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first:
where is michael moore,when u need him….;)
second..
maybe thats the first world surrounding and including scavenger hunt.
well,it feels like one.
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6:38 pm
July 13, 2009
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Hey dragon… ich bin auch ne Deutsche! Schreib zurück, mich interessiert dein deutscher Block und was du so denkst
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9:09 pm
July 13, 2009
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I find it interesting that the songs that sosh and feyaya chose were from the history and blood on the dancefloor album which is after the first child molestation case which got me to thinking. I noticed that most of his songs before the case (dangerous album and before) were “happy” “love” or “fun” songs (excluding Leave me Alone and some others). After the case, his music changed a little meaning more songs got more angry (like They dont care about us, Privacy, Threatened, and ESPECIALLY This time around )which i can understand.
Anywho with those specific songs that sosh and feyaya chose maybe shows that hes been planning this (or wanting to plan this) since that first molestation case cuz of all the drama he went through. I know its pretty obvious that he would start planning from then on but i just had to break it down a bit for myself.
And even i though i believe the rehearsel footage was recent, i also find it funny that a lot of people think it came from the History era which is the era wen i believe he was thinking about maybe not a hoax but some sort of escape.
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5:54 am
July 14, 2009
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Yes I was thinking about his music, I was young in the days of Off the Wall, etc, but now I find that a lot of his music prior to the cm cases is defined in my mind as cheesy pop, in fact I can rarely sing along to it. I much prefer the louder angrier music which came much later.
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6:35 am
July 14, 2009
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What about the song Morphine?? Was he singing about his own addiction to demerol? Remember that was mentioned as a possible cause of his death..Was he telling us how he would stage his own death to make it look like a drug overdose?? Or was he pissed off at being called a drug addict by the press?? Was he even called a druggie at that time? I agree, after the child molestation stuff he became more angry in his music..I really love the song Morphine though..It sounds like it comes straight from the heart. Michael was so honest in so many ways that's why I sometimes doubt the 'death hoax' stuff..Any thought's on this would be greatly appreciated..Thanks..xx
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9:59 am
July 14, 2009
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Okay Maybe Mj Was A Drug Addict But He Also Had Liz Taylor's Support ..
I'm Sure She Wouldn't Jus Let Him Be U Know .. =S .
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10:49 am
July 14, 2009
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The narrated part in the “Will You Be There” at the memorial is different than in the regular, recorded song.
He says “In my anguish and my pain” in the regular version – at the memorial, he said “in my anguish and my pains.”
I tried to find concert vids where he sang it and it's always “pain”, not “pains”.
How many times was the song recorded, does someone know ?
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8:16 pm
July 14, 2009
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Philomel said:
Angel36 said:
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What about the picture at the end of the memorial.
The picture like he's directed the whole memorial.
It's from the video Liberiangirl where he said “Ok everybody,that's a wrap.
http://www.last.fm/music/Micha…..zvGTrqpQp0
And he has such a cute smile.
And in that video, he was sitting back and directing / filming all of the other celebrities featured in the clip.
Is the usage of this same image in the memorial a subliminal message or subtle hint that Michael was, in fact, orchestrating and directing his own memorial? And everyone was just ACTING from SCRIPTS?
I went back and watched the end of the memorial. It is very interesting that this image (when I'm sure there are thousands of other of pictures to choose from) would be used at the end. It might very well be a message that he has staged his own death and is the dirictor behind it all.
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6:25 pm
July 16, 2009
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Jamy
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hello,maybe is because i'm french but i don't understand problem with “pain/pains”
can you explain please ?
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9:00 am
July 18, 2009
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my group found out andcollected all the signs in the memorial and the single letters….maybe an anagramm…..
or an old egypt language???
sorry,a lot is in german.u should try to use the translator down the page…..
hab auch was in den symbolen gefunden, dass
erste das gleich erscheint ist ein symbol
von
den kreuzrittern…
ist also was von dem tempelorden..
hier der link
http://images.google.de/imgres…..rl=http://
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/
c/c1/Cross-Pattee-red.svg/180px-Cross-Pattee-
red.svg.png&imgrefurl=http://de.wikipedia.org
/wiki/Templerorden&usg=__uEvowRSUfyVFnaGNor2D
QkymkQ0=&h=180&w=180&sz=5&hl=de&start=5&um=1&
tbnid=Ebj0xIGmwEOlmM:&tbnh=101&tbnw=101&prev=
/images%3Fq%3Dkreurzitter%2Bkreuz%26hl%3Dde%2
6um%3D1
und hier ein link zu dem stern:
http://www.schmuck-anhaenger.d…..er.htm?Sch
muck-und-Anhaenger-Produktseiten-02/Schmuck-u
nd-Anhaenger-Mystischer-Stern-Anhaenger-LH-A9
9.html&../Menue-Silberschmuck.htm&Titel.htm
und hier ein link zu der hand:
http://images.google.de/imgres…..rl=http://
http://www.bernhardpeter.de/In…..e/jain-sym
bol-hand.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.bernhardpet
er.de/Indien/Sonstige/seite427.htm&usg=__uEGC
acbWK3uCF3IESi9mdRG2VrU=&h=336&w=206&sz=4&hl=
de&start=2&tbnid=Ev5j3M30jqozfM:&tbnh=119&tbn
w=73&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsymbol%2Bhand%26gbv%3
D2%26hl%3Dde
das Kreuz:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/K…..%28Symbol%
29
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondsichel
das rad:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/R….._der_Lehre
die zahl 7:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sieben
stimmt das eine war noch shinto..ist ne
religion. vielleicht auch alles nur gemacht,
weil er so religiös war
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shint%C5%8D
sry, falscher link.. ist noch von oben,
lol…
http://images.google.de/imgres…..rl=http://
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/
3/38/ReligijneSymbole.svg/300px-ReligijneSymb
ole.svg.png&imgrefurl=http://de.wikibooks.org
/wiki/Religionskritik:_Definition&usg=__l8L0J
T6726GaEv3HGZbMrCggpPs=&h=300&w=300&sz=22&hl=
de&start=2&sig2=7-RDHc1e_axEj0s67W2ODQ&um=1&t
bnid=zF5Eqpd6tKyqIM:&tbnh=116&tbnw=116&prev=/
images%3Fq%3Dreligi%25C3%25B6se%2Bsymbole%26h
l%3Dde%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozil
la:de:official%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1&ei=QqRhSoKXB
svAsAapmL3_Dw
hier das mit den buchstaben
ok..dann nochmal hier. dachte nur damit sie
nicht verloren gehen und man sie leichter
findet.
A T O O T O N A O A O E O A T C A C O C O T
O
A C O T O E O A T C
es sind immer diese buchstaben A O T N C E
also das ist als ergebnis rausgekommen:
Octane
Ace Not
Ace Ton
Acne To
Cane To
Can Toe
Taco En
Coat En
Cat Eon
Cat One
Act Eon
Act One
Nae Cot
Eat Con
Tea Con
Eta Con
Ate Con
An Cote
At Once
At Cone
A Cot En
kamen die auch alle so in der rheienfolge
wie
du sie aufgeschrieben hast, also alle
buchstaben nicht nur
atonce
auch die restlichen?
also mit diesen buchstaben, ich weiß nich
genau, aber ich denke es könnte ein satz auf
englisch sein… hab mal geschaut… aber
mir
fehlen noch etliche wörter
könnte sein:
come et once
to act at once
come et once – komme sofort
to act at once – ich musste schnell handeln
wenn man zb. die buchstaben von (ich musste
schnell handeln – to act at once) rausnimmt,
bleiben noch
OOAOEOAAOCOTOACOTOOATC
übrieg… vielleicht kann einer dadraus
nochwas bilden??
vielleicht kann einer gut englisch.
weil es gibt doch diese
buchstaben programme. vielleicht kann den
einer runterladen und dann mal die
buchstaben
eingeben, vielleicht ergibt sich was….
paar neue wörter gefunden
not once
kein einziges Mal
not one
keins
ace
genial
ace
Star
ace
geil
ace
super
to ace
betrügen
to come on
vorwärts gehen
to come to (wieder)
zu sich kommen
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9:02 am
July 18, 2009
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dragon
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if u have a question or a help,please send me a pn,its hard to find me through this forum all the time……
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9:19 am
July 18, 2009
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I read michael jackson book entitled MOONWALK.
he said “people always think that my lyrics is something that i have experienced, that is nothing
further from the truth” sometimes i am just inspired by people stories and experiences”
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9:38 am
July 18, 2009
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Arual1979
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blackberry said:
I read michael jackson book entitled MOONWALK.
he said “people always think that my lyrics is something that i have experienced, that is nothing
further from the truth” sometimes i am just inspired by people stories and experiences”
Yeah, he's inspired by the way Elvis faked his death
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10:10 am
July 18, 2009
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mir26 said:
Post edited 3:56 pm – July 13, 2009 by mir26
I saw earlier today on here someone made a post of the memorial where jennifer hudson sang will you be there(dont know who wrote it sorry) that at the end of the song we hear Michael saying the last words from the song and she said one word was different he said pains when in the original or even in live ones he says pain,I checked this fact of what she says and she is right after listening to several recordings of will you be there he says pain but in the memorial he says pains.
(could it be he attend his own memorial?)
It wasn't me, but I posted something on that yesterday. I think several people have. I listened to both versions at the same time (original and memorail) and they ARE the same -apart from the extra 'S'!!! Am very confused! I don't think he was reciting, it was extracted from the Dangerous track, but WHY the plural? Any explanations? I also noticed that in the original track, the words 'in my pain' come on at 7' exactly. Also, the song is 7'40'' long -only MJ song over 7 min lond…
I also wanted to mention, re the impostor at the O2…there are this pics of Mike on March 12, he has something like a beauty spot on his right hand. The O2 guy doesn't…is this really a beauty spot or what else could it be? See the pics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..re=related
Let's keep up the good work! 
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10:12 am
July 18, 2009
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dianafan said:
I'm sure that we are missing some things, ie the I'm alive and here forever, Fair enough I believe that they are words from a song.
But why these words? Why are they phrased this way? Not really an appropriate choice for a a funeral/memorial
This is an anagram of something I'm 100%, but I'm not doing very well with it. I can find some good words which won't link together to form a sentence, and can find better words which do link, but with letters left over.
Ha ha spent hours at work on this, so can someone else come up with something – I may get fired at this rate – especially as I was posting from work too!!!!
i believe that michael atemted at his own Memorial he planned everything together with Kenny ortega maybe that is why Ortega said something about him and michael being there 1 week ago ?? and michael was saying that part of his song “will you be there” thats maybe why he said PAINS and not pain he was maybe nerves. Sorry for the english i am from Denmark
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10:19 am
July 18, 2009
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dontmakeitfactual
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Jamy said:
hello,maybe is because i'm french but i don't understand problem with “pain/pains”
can you explain please ?
Hi Jamy. In MJ's monologue in the song 'will you be there', there's a part where MJ says 'in my anguish and my pain'. Now, in the memorial, what we heard and what was projected on the screen was 'in my painS'. No other recording seems to exists in which he said 'pains' instead of 'pain' …
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10:29 am
July 18, 2009
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dontmakeitfactual
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Continuing the anagram thing…can i jsut say something really, really crazy? Thanks to vyse for posting the link to the anagrams page…I just did a search on 'in my pain'. The 7th entry says 'Am In Piny'. Ha,ha,ha…this is so ridicolous, sorry to post it….
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10:32 am
July 18, 2009
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dontmakeitfactual
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Oh, my…i should stop using that anagram page…!!! I've now done a search on staples centre,…the seventh entry says 'tentacle press'.
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