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10:31 pm July 18, 2009
| yaya
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i think there should be a thick line drawn on this site. on one side, there will be michael's loyal fans and admirerers who are hell bent on find out the truth and hoping to God that he is still alive. on the other side, there will be people who joined this site just for the heck of it; maybe to cause problems, maybe cuz they just heard one of michael's songs and don't know jack about him other than the one song they heard or maybe to just act like fools. and all the ones who are on the latter side of line seem to be taking over. because of them, IMPORTANT people are leaving/threatening to leave this site. and when i say important, i don't simply mean those who've contributed the most by making new discoveries and what not, but i mean those whose love for michael is genuine and not shallow. those who are serious about finding out the truth. i've noticed changes in this site over the past few days and it seems the newer members are the reasons behind the change. sorry if i've offended anyone, but i just needed to get that off my chest.
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10:35 pm July 18, 2009
| Makaveli96
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yeah your right i think the admin should take control and ban these people
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10:40 pm July 18, 2009
| MJGIRL18
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I CAN'T BELIEVE SUPERMOM IS LEAVING.ADMIN SHOULD KICK ALL DA HATERS OFF.SOME ARE
HERE TO PROVE THE TRUTH,OTHERS ARE HERE TO PLAY AROUND.
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10:42 pm July 18, 2009
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I think like you too, but im not affected by such comments. Okay yeah they disturb me..but i
really dont care cause i know that the subject we have on this site is very…well how to phrase it.
lets say “makes some people skeptical”.
The theme is very thick, we are talking about a legend. And most of the population has been
brainwashed by the media..or maybe not, that he is dead. And we are still outsiders who are
observing from afar. Some of us dont even live in America.
Our only resources are our eyes, ears and the internet. We can really just observe and anallyze
what the media finds out. So i think its pretty normal that some people here..are not from our
same opinion….maybe they are a bit…but they cant admit it just now.
Or maybe they are people who need solid facts..like pictures, videos. IM a bit like that…i dont
believe someone when he just writes a post…without adding pics to state and make believe his
point or theory.
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10:45 pm July 18, 2009
| mjlives
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Makaveli96 said:
yeah your right i think the admin should take control and ban these people
I disagree, the last thing we should be doing is stopping new people from voicing their opinions. We might not agree with what they say but they still have a right to say it, and who knows they might come up with an idea or theory that we haven't thought of yet.
That being said, I kind of agree with you OP that some people on this site are losing focus of what it should be about- finding out what really happened to Michael on June 25th. But honestly that was bound to happen as the site grew more popular, and it's just something we have to get used to. Banning people would not be a good idea imo
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10:46 pm July 18, 2009
| BelieverAngel90
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Which ones are causing problems ??? I would like to know because I am not playing when comes figure out if is Michael Alive , I been on here for 4 days straight with no sleep and I want to know … I can't sleep right at night … I am serious when I am typing on here …
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10:51 pm July 18, 2009
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yaya said:
i think there should be a thick line drawn on this site. on one side, there will be michael's loyal fans and admirerers who are hell bent on find out the truth and hoping to God that he is still alive. on the other side, there will be people who joined this site just for the heck of it; maybe to cause problems, maybe cuz they just heard one of michael's songs and don't know jack about him other than the one song they heard or maybe to just act like fools. and all the ones who are on the latter side of line seem to be taking over. because of them, IMPORTANT people are leaving/threatening to leave this site. and when i say important, i don't simply mean those who've contributed the most by making new discoveries and what not, but i mean those whose love for michael is genuine and not shallow. those who are serious about finding out the truth. i've noticed changes in this site over the past few days and it seems the newer members are the reasons behind the change. sorry if i've offended anyone, but i just needed to get that off my chest.
I'm sorry if you are tallking about me. I really didnt come here to start problems at all… I really didnt. I am sorry..
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11:14 pm July 18, 2009
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mjlives said:
Makaveli96 said:
yeah your right i think the admin should take control and ban these people
I disagree, the last thing we should be doing is stopping new people from voicing their opinions. We might not agree with what they say but they still have a right to say it, and who knows they might come up with an idea or theory that we haven't thought of yet.
That being said, I kind of agree with you OP that some people on this site are losing focus of what it should be about- finding out what really happened to Michael on June 25th. But honestly that was bound to happen as the site grew more popular, and it's just something we have to get used to. Banning people would not be a good idea imo
totally agree on this one!!!! We might missed something, just be open-minded people, let's listen to anyone cause at the end it's still your choice what you going to decide to believe. Isn't that right.
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11:22 pm July 18, 2009
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renski33 said:
mjlives said:
Makaveli96 said:
yeah your right i think the admin should take control and ban these people
I disagree, the last thing we should be doing is stopping new people from voicing their opinions. We might not agree with what they say but they still have a right to say it, and who knows they might come up with an idea or theory that we haven't thought of yet.
That being said, I kind of agree with you OP that some people on this site are losing focus of what it should be about- finding out what really happened to Michael on June 25th. But honestly that was bound to happen as the site grew more popular, and it's just something we have to get used to. Banning people would not be a good idea imo
totally agree on this one!!!! We might missed something, just be open-minded people, let's listen to anyone cause at the end it's still your choice what you going to decide to believe. Isn't that right.
yo i am just talking bout banning the haters not the ones with different opnions.Just the ones who come
on here and cause trouble
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11:34 pm July 18, 2009
| renski33
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but haters have their own opinion too, it's just you rpoint of view. To me they are not haters, to me they are people with completely different opinion. See, it's just how you look on things. But whatever, I think they shouldn't be banned, i think we should just ignore those messages we don't like, cause at the end it's you who is hater not them. Let's get back talking about MJ and leave this for admin to sort out.
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11:41 pm July 18, 2009
| Bk.<3.Michael
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Who is leaving?
I've been here since one day after MJ's memorial, please tell me who is leaving?
Oh BTW i don't like the changes made to the site it was better the way it was…
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11:43 pm July 18, 2009
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I follow this site for quite a while. When I read current posts of some, who call themselves
“loyal fans”, it´s quite shocking how disrespectful and heartless some things are written!
Do you think, if he really reads this, that he will appreciate the way it is (and has been) talked
about his children? And even himself? I doubt that.
Due to this side, many reasonable doubts were collected and so many people worldwide are
connected - by puzzle over him! I think if there is one more “Reason” – this is it!
We should continue to construe the subtle hints HE left us and communicate in a befitting
behaviour. Everybody, especially those who call themselfes “loyal fans” , should proof with the
posted comments and links that their love is not the selfish kind and that they vary in some things
from a bunch of editors, working, to get more clicks for below grade yellow press magazines.
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11:43 pm July 18, 2009
| Bk.<3.Michael
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OMG! this site have some problems, who else is having troubles?
Actually while im here replying all posts appear incomplete…
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1:49 am July 19, 2009
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I.Love.You.MJJ said:
OMG! this site have some problems, who else is having troubles?
Actually while im here replying all posts appear incomplete…
I've problems as well..
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2:16 am July 19, 2009
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Post edited 7:17 pm – July 19, 2009 by darkfeather
You're right. If MJ was indeed on this site and read
what I read I would not bother
to come back again.
It's simply not worth it.
Take care.
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2:25 am July 19, 2009
| dragon
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J.A.N.E.T. said:
I follow this site for quite a while. When I read current posts of some, who call themselves
“loyal fans”, it´s quite shocking how disrespectful and heartless some things are written!
Do you think, if he really reads this, that he will appreciate the way it is (and has been) talked
about his children? And even himself? I doubt that.
Due to this side, many reasonable doubts were collected and so many people worldwide are
connected - by puzzle over him! I think if there is one more “Reason” – this is it!
We should continue to construe the subtle hints HE left us and communicate in a befitting
behaviour. Everybody, especially those who call themselfes “loyal fans” , should proof with the
posted comments and links that their love is not the selfish kind and that they vary in some things
from a bunch of editors, working, to get more clicks for below grade yellow press magazines.
you are totally right with that.
if i imagine how many yellow press guys are in here as welli could puke…..
dont remind me at this….
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9:55 am July 19, 2009
| yaya
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Ella said:
yaya said:
i think there should be a thick line drawn on this site. on one side, there will be michael's loyal fans and admirerers who are hell bent on find out the truth and hoping to God that he is still alive. on the other side, there will be people who joined this site just for the heck of it; maybe to cause problems, maybe cuz they just heard one of michael's songs and don't know jack about him other than the one song they heard or maybe to just act like fools. and all the ones who are on the latter side of line seem to be taking over. because of them, IMPORTANT people are leaving/threatening to leave this site. and when i say important, i don't simply mean those who've contributed the most by making new discoveries and what not, but i mean those whose love for michael is genuine and not shallow. those who are serious about finding out the truth. i've noticed changes in this site over the past few days and it seems the newer members are the reasons behind the change. sorry if i've offended anyone, but i just needed to get that off my chest.
I'm sorry if you are tallking about me. I really didnt come here to start problems at all… I really didnt. I am sorry..
no way, i wasn't talking about you at all! i think you're one of the people we need to stay on here. i'm just talking about people who come here to bash and cause for everyone else who's serious about michael. so don't worry!
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10:01 am July 19, 2009
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I seriously want to get to the bottom of this! I'm so obsessed!lol
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10:02 am July 19, 2009
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J.A.N.E.T. said:
I follow this site for quite a while. When I read current posts of some, who call themselves
“loyal fans”, it´s quite shocking how disrespectful and heartless some things are written!
Do you think, if he really reads this, that he will appreciate the way it is (and has been) talked
about his children? And even himself? I doubt that.
Due to this side, many reasonable doubts were collected and so many people worldwide are
connected - by puzzle over him! I think if there is one more “Reason” – this is it!
We should continue to construe the subtle hints HE left us and communicate in a befitting
behaviour. Everybody, especially those who call themselfes “loyal fans” , should proof with the
posted comments and links that their love is not the selfish kind and that they vary in some things
from a bunch of editors, working, to get more clicks for below grade yellow press magazines.
I agree with this post the most
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1:28 pm July 19, 2009
| ilprincipe
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Hello yaya!
I totally agree. I'm here on this site for the last 2 weeks or even a little bit longer.
At first you could find there really good facts.
One threadstarter explored sth. interesting…this was an inspiration for a 2nd one, who saw sth. else, what the first overlooked and so on.
I didn't explore anything by myself, but the collected facts convinced me.
We have no proof that he is dead, and we have no proof that he is alive.
My decision => He's alive.
All the circumstances about his “death” especially the last days/hours b4 his death are weird and so obscure.
The last week I read much on this site….interesting views, links….everything added up and the users agreed in most of the points.
The last 4-5 days there are so many nonsens-threads.
I read the subject => sounds interesting…
I open it…and it's featureless and redundant.
At the moment it displays we have 696 Topics..and for me more than half of it
redundant! We have 7823 posts…more than 60 % are for the birds.
I think this site is for fans and people who are interested in MJs disappearing
and especially for those who are convinced it was a hoax.
For those who are not convinced…please create an own website
and don't smash this precious site.
Thank you!
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1:40 pm July 19, 2009
| nycscenie
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Been here since june 29th and i havent noticed any problems, just people who are so convinced that hes dead. But i think if there are haters, they should stay cuz wouldnt haters give us more motivation to find the truth. Im just saying that cuz i love proving people wrong.
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1:47 pm July 19, 2009
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ilprincipe said:
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For those who are not convinced…please create an own website
and don't smash this precious site.
Thank you!
definitely not.
that's how the vatican wanted to stay with it's “the earth is flat” theory.
if you can't handle other opinions then it's only your problem.
So let's do some statistics:
how many people surrounding michael state that he is dead ?
50 ?
how many surrounding him say that he is alive ? 0 !
do the maths!
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2:05 pm July 19, 2009
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i cant remember when i joined i think about a week ago maybe more dunno but i had problems logging in my internet went crazy but finally im in yeh im quite new but im here because i feel mj is still alive and im here to find the truth i love this site admin good job and everyone else who are bringing up new theorys makes me feel really good that there are other people but me who believe in their minds he is still alive because i thought i was just being crazy but now i realsie how many people like me there is i love mj so much and it is genuine and i seriously want to find out the truth i agree i dont like to see haters come on here and put awful comments but like someone said people have their own opinions so i say leave them to it and let us who believe carry on to solve this mystery luv you all xxx
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2:11 pm July 19, 2009
| ilprincipe
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how many people surrounding michael state that he is dead ?
50 ?
how many surrounding him say that he is alive ? 0 !
do the maths!
Who surrounded him? It was not you, it was not me..and no one who posts on this site. So we don't know…
The silence is only protection.
whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent….
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2:18 pm July 19, 2009
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I am sorry that you feel that way….I really am….
I have been here since day one convinced he was alive…
I really thought he would jump out of his coffin…
but to much time has passed and I am now leaning towards that he has passed on,
but i strongly believe that there is something strange about the
circumstances surrounding his death…
should i not be here ? according to your rules, probably not…
But i will stay for a while and take part in some discussions…
I try to always be polite and to respect others and their different opinions…
I think to draw a line in the middle and distinguishing between the two sets of believers isn't right,
probably many like myself waver every now and then in their beliefs…
would you exclude those also?
What about some that may come here believing he was dead,
but after reading some, changed their mind…
are they not allowed , based on your rule, no.
when people have a different opinion than yours…
…and you will face this your whole life,
you have to listen, open your mind , file it away and go on.
Now, I do agree that this site is turning into a circus…
In the beginning there were intelligent conversations and theory sharing going on…
no body was putting each other down…
unfortunately, this site has attracted attention seekers and some trouble makers….
That , being said, it probably time for some moderators.
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To find the truth…
I like to play
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2:36 pm July 19, 2009
| ilprincipe
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but i strongly believe that there is something strange about the
circumstances surrounding his death…
should i not be here ? according to your rules, probably not…
probably many like myself waver every now and then in their beliefs…
would you exclude those also?
What about some that may come here believing he was dead,
but after reading some, changed their mind…
are they not allowed , based on your rule, no.
Now, I do agree that this site is turning into a circus…
In the beginning there were intelligent conversations and theory sharing going on…
no body was putting each other down…
unfortunately, this site has attracted attention seekers and some trouble makers….
That , being said, it probably time for some moderators.
Dear jewell,
most of the posters agree that there are so many solecisms about his “death”
or maybe the circumstances of his death, if you beileve this way…
There are some minutes in which i'm also uncertain…but we have no results of the autopsy until now and it seems that MJ isn't still buried and hope dies lst
The doubters who come…and are convinced after reading some facts don't write posts who want to tell you, that you are nuts because you suppose he's alive and not dead.
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2:38 pm July 19, 2009
| ilprincipe
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sorry for spelling mistakes…
must be “beliieve”
and “hope dies last”
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5:00 pm July 19, 2009
| yaya
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jewell said:
I am sorry that you feel that way….I really am….
I have been here since day one convinced he was alive…
I really thought he would jump out of his coffin…
but to much time has passed and I am now leaning towards that he has passed on,
but i strongly believe that there is something strange about the
circumstances surrounding his death…
should i not be here ? according to your rules, probably not…
But i will stay for a while and take part in some discussions…
I try to always be polite and to respect others and their different opinions…
I think to draw a line in the middle and distinguishing between the two sets of believers isn't right,
probably many like myself waver every now and then in their beliefs…
would you exclude those also?
What about some that may come here believing he was dead,
but after reading some, changed their mind…
are they not allowed , based on your rule, no.
when people have a different opinion than yours…
…and you will face this your whole life,
you have to listen, open your mind , file it away and go on.
Now, I do agree that this site is turning into a circus…
In the beginning there were intelligent conversations and theory sharing going on…
no body was putting each other down…
unfortunately, this site has attracted attention seekers and some trouble makers….
That , being said, it probably time for some moderators.
jewell,
i am not saying there should only be specific types of fans on here. maybe i chose a wrong phase when i drew a line between it all. i was specifically targeting the ones who cannot handle reading theories different from their own, giving that they may only know one song by michael and that's where their knowledge of him ends. you're right about in the beginning there were intelligent conversations. and i feel that has ended, unfortunately, because i felt we were actually getting somewhere. now it's simply turned haywire and everything tends to get off topic in a bizarre way. so don't misunderstand me when i say there are people who shouldn't be on this site. theories have to come from all directions and i think it's one thing when you have healthy discussions or a debate about why a theory may or may not be accurate than when someone who doesn't agree with the theory is so quick to bash and insult the person. those are the specific people i am saying should not be here. i am not trying set a bunch of “rules” as you said as to who should join and who shouldn't. i'm not part of admin; i'm simply stating my feelings and somewhat disappointment with the sharp turn this site has taken, so i am sorry if you misjudged what i have said.
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5:14 pm July 19, 2009
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jewell said:
I am sorry that you feel that way….I really am….
I have been here since day one convinced he was alive…
I really thought he would jump out of his coffin…
but to much time has passed and I am now leaning towards that he has passed on,
but i strongly believe that there is something strange about the
circumstances surrounding his death…
should i not be here ? according to your rules, probably not…
But i will stay for a while and take part in some discussions…
I try to always be polite and to respect others and their different opinions…
I think to draw a line in the middle and distinguishing between the two sets of believers isn't right,
probably many like myself waver every now and then in their beliefs…
would you exclude those also?
What about some that may come here believing he was dead,
but after reading some, changed their mind…
are they not allowed , based on your rule, no.
when people have a different opinion than yours…
…and you will face this your whole life,
you have to listen, open your mind , file it away and go on.
Now, I do agree that this site is turning into a circus…
In the beginning there were intelligent conversations and theory sharing going on…
no body was putting each other down…
unfortunately, this site has attracted attention seekers and some trouble makers….
That , being said, it probably time for some moderators.
I just wanted to tell you that I always like to read your posts and I think we need more people like you on here. You state your opinion in an argumentative and very polite way and you are open to discuss things. Unfortunately this site is full of people who just say “yes and amen” to everything without questioning it. And I am very glad that there are people with a different opinion than mine because thats what we need to come to new conclusions.
Also I like your idea of moderators too. I think we really need some now to make people get along on here again.
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5:18 pm July 19, 2009
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I DONT CARE HOW THIS COMES OUT TO ALL OF YOU NOW! BUT I TRULY HAVE ENOUGH OF THIS NONSENSE TOPICS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you have some problems then there is this thing called “Pm” and if it cant be done like that then just ask the admin…
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