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Michaels “Death”.

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1:55 am
July 13, 2009


MissC

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Well, first of all, I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking Michael might be alive. When his death was announced at first couldn't believe it, I was in shock like most people. Days went by and I started wondering if all this could somehow be a hoax, if he really could have faked his death and the thing is, he can. When you have money and contacts, you certainly can.

Now, this site has pointed out many things that makes lots of sense. Two things I would rule out are the iluminus theo (sp?) thing and the fact that he might have died in 1984. Too fictitious and imaginative for me. Let's keep things real. (We also agree that the guy who sang at the start of 'We are the world' its not Michael, again let's keep things real.)

As most of you said (and agree), I don't think the Michael from the press conference was indeed Michael. What I notice as well, is that the guy (the Michael) who's at the auditions looks too like the Michael from the press conference. The Michael from the rehearsals is definitely Michael Jackson for me. The photo from the rehearsals, I don't think it was photoshoped, I mean you can clearly see his legs are covering part of the I and S.

Now hours after his “death” there was a photo taken of him, suposdly when he was being rushed to the hospital. That guys complexion is darker that Michaels. and if you see it carefully, there's like tension on his face. and suposdly he's 'not conscious'. There's also a video where we see the camera man trying to get close to the ambulance but even though he gets close enough, we see is too dark to catch something. In the video we can't see anyone with a photo camera, or at least I didn't catch it. And to get that photo someone must have made use of a flash, without it I don't think is possible someone got that picture. The thing is in the video we don't see: – someone with a camera nor a flash from somewhere. Where (and when) was that picture taken?.

Hours after his death also someone released the famous 'phone call' to 911. I think everyone here agrees that that phone call is beyond weird. and some basic questions weren't asked. The analization of the phone call says everything. Like, when the guy says 'call us back if you need any help'. I mean: SOMEONE IS DYING. Without question of course they need help. Then, when the guy ask if he's conscious and if he's breathing, when the man says 'no', this guy ask again if Michael is conscious. I mean, if you're not breating, then YOU'RE NOT CONSCIOUS.  As I wrote, too weird.

Then, we have what tabloids are speculating. Drugs. Come on, no one would have ever let him prepare this serie of concerts, perform if this guy was on drugs. And the fact that he was taking 50 pills a day. He would have been dead months ago.

Now LaToya gave this interview first to the daily mail (I mean, I read it first there) where she says that he might have been murder. and that he has 3 marks on his neck. Correct me if I'm wrong, after the first (or second, I truly lost the track of how many “autopsies” they did) autopsy they said he didn't have any kind of marks.Thing we have to remember is that it's a tabloid and LaToya is not what I would call… trusty. Article says that she was closest to Michael. I'm sorry, I'm not a fan of Michael but as far as I know, he was closest to Janet (He said it himself, and she did too). What I don't understand, is why, from all the Jacksons, LaToya is the one who speaks up. Come on, she didn't exactly get alone to well with Michael, after all she did to him.

Every time a new article is published, I even have more questions than answers and it's bothering me BIG TIME cause the press (or his family) certainly believe some people are very stupid and that no one ever is going to suspect that something really weird is going on.


It's all a real mess, I swear. and I might definitely be missing something. I mean, the doctor disappearance, the memorial (the fact that some of his closest friends didn't attend),  his mother shopping one day after, lack of interest from his dad, the fake 'ghost' on cnn, IT'S ALL WEIRD.

He might be dead as well as he might be alive. He has reasons to do this. Maybe to pursue a normal life out of the spotlight, maybe because he wants to top everything he did so far and wants to shock us, maybe he wants to know who his real friends are, or maybe to make some more money (this past 2 weeks, he made LOADS of money, thats for sure) to pay his debts. I could see maybe he's simply dead but thing is, how could he die? He didn't have a drug problem (I'm not buying it, I swear). I don't either believe that someone kill him, because first autopsy revealed he didn't have marks.


I am puzzled, I swear. but one thing I know for sure it's that something reaaally strange is going on.

Anyway. I think that by August 29 we'll have an answer. For now, all we can do is to debate. or wait til someone sees Michael (though I don't think he's stupid enough to make himself visible for now).

and if I only could, I’d make a deal with God, and I’d get him to swap our places, be running up that road, be running up that hill, be running up that building.

2:10 am
July 13, 2009


sita

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question: do (life) insurances do pay money out in case of “selfkilling” with any kind of drugs?

question: do (life) insurances do pay money in case of a murdery plot?


i wont trust the family: i see their dollars in their eyes.

i wont trust everyone who was involved in the plot of the o2 press conference to fool us all

with this “michael” that was presented to us.


but the question remains: who is dead now (in case this person is dead).

dont forget: LOOK WITH YOUR HEART

2:35 am
July 13, 2009


MissC

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sita said:

question: do (life) insurances do pay money out in case of “selfkilling” with any kind of drugs?

question: do (life) insurances do pay money in case of a murdery plot?


i wont trust the family: i see their dollars in their eyes.

i wont trust everyone who was involved in the plot of the o2 press conference to fool us all

with this “michael” that was presented to us.


but the question remains: who is dead now (in case this person is dead).


 I don't know, I have no idea about the US laws since I'm not american. But I don't trust his family, specially LaToya. and I wonder that too, If Michaels not dead, then who's dead? Or maybe there's no body. Thats why casket wasn't opened at the memorial.

and if I only could, I’d make a deal with God, and I’d get him to swap our places, be running up that road, be running up that hill, be running up that building.

5:17 am
July 13, 2009


monalisa

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I think everything else adds up to him faking his death, and I agree the ambulance photo does not look like Michael at all. But who did they do autopsies on? And who's brain are they supposedly testing? I think I read somewhere that there was someone who had a fatal illness that might have been willing to act as a decoy? This is the only part that really bothers me, the fact that the doctors say they are holding out for the toxocology reports, but what body did they do them on? Or are they all making it up too? I hope and pray this is a hoax and Michael is alive somewhere, getting healthy and waiting for his children to join him where ever he is.

Thanks for all of the interesting points of view, and if anybody has any ideas as to my question about the body/autopsy/brain please reply.


‘Te quiero siempre mi amor … sé que un día volverás’

6:28 am
July 13, 2009


carelesslove46

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Has anyone thought that the 911 call might be fake?? Look Michael had so many debts..Not to mention that he had somehow signed to do 50 concerts when infact he only agreed to do 10..Then there was the constant hounding by the media..This poor guy was never gonna have any sort of life if things carried on as they did..Yes, he could have well been addicted to prescription meds..I would have been too if I had been subjected to all the endless crap that he had to endure..I would have drunk and popped pills into an early grave ages ago..Having said that, lets hope that Michael is still very much alive and is getting himself healthy again…Hopefully he has made a new life for himself and will be reunited with his children…Supposedly he also had a secret girlfriend whom he loved and adored and who was not a celebrity..Let's pray he has started a new life with this woman somewhere..I kind of thought he might leave the States for good and start a new life out in the middle east …Wasn't he flirting with the Islamic faith..He did spend that time in Bahrain {Spelling?}..I really hope he is alive, but I doubt we will ever know the truth..x


6:39 am
July 13, 2009


carelesslove46

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No, I have never heard of insurance company's paying out if the death is caused by an overdose of drugs..There is accidental death coverage…So if Michael's death was

an accidental overdose then that might put a different light on things..I'm certainly no expert and really can only speculate here. We could be really, really outrageous and say that the whole darn thing was a hoax..Perhaps there never was any insurance policy because there was never going to be a concert in the first place..It would be the biggest hoax of this century if that were the case…But like someone else posted…We have to keep it real…My imagination is running riot..I look forward to reading other people's post's here..xx

7:07 am
July 13, 2009


Dutch

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Anyone having any idea what Liza Minnelli meant by saying “Once the autopsy reports are in, all hell will break loose”? Why would she say that and in what relation, what was her intention saying that? Something that flashed my mind; Could it be that in the final autopsy report it will be proven that the person who died on 06.25.2009 was not MJ? I can imagine that once info of that sort is being released, indeed all hell will break loose and millions of people will start asking questions……nasty questions for people having to answer them, nasty questions for those who'd have to explain a sh!tload of weird, suspicious, doubtful actions.

On top of that, she did not show up at the memorial, like many other good friends of MJ. Why? I ask myself the question “Would I drop all activities when I hear one of my best friends passed away? Especially if that friend also has introduced me to my current spouse and if that friend was my best man at my wedding?” Certainly I would drop everything…..regardless if that would mean losing money/job. As a best friend I would move mountains and go, regardless my own troubles/emotions, just out of respect for the one who passed away and to pay respect to his family. Yet, none of the so called best friends of MJ did this: McAuley Culkin, Diana Ross, Liza Minnelli, Elizabeth Taylor, Quincy Jones….none of them were there and that's weird, very weird.


7:50 am
July 13, 2009


jjuk

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I also find this strange that close friends did not attend, hmmm …

8:50 am
July 13, 2009


watthhel

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First: sorry for my english

Second: I dont believe that MJ is dead. I think too it is a fake. He lives everywhere in a good mood – I hope and wish it for him.

And where are his friends? Ive found that – sorry its german: is it real that the sister of Macaulay has died too on July?

http://www.bild.de/BILD/unterh…..nfall.html

Ive found it only in that german newspaper.

9:24 am
July 13, 2009


dana_74

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I belive Michael is alive because too think are strange in this case and because I belive Michael want leave a normal life.

On the other hand the Michael's father want found the “Jackson three” with the Michael' children and I don't belive Michael would be happy. I hope that the news are fake or a diversion for distract pubblic attention.


Sorry for my english but I'm italian girl and I don't speak english frequently.

10:09 am
July 13, 2009


Miss Dahmer

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Post edited 3:13 am – July 14, 2009 by Andrea


I agree with Dutch.

‘I think in some way I wanted it to end, even if it meant my own destruction.’

10:40 am
July 13, 2009


MakeYaGo_Hmm

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Post edited 3:43 am – July 14, 2009 by MakeYaGo_Hmm


carelesslove46 said:

Has anyone thought that the 911 call might be fake?? Look Michael had so many debts..Not to mention that he had somehow signed to do 50 concerts when infact he only agreed to do 10..Then there was the constant hounding by the media..This poor guy was never gonna have any sort of life if things carried on as they did..Yes, he could have well been addicted to prescription meds..I would have been too if I had been subjected to all the endless crap that he had to endure..I would have drunk and popped pills into an early grave ages ago..Having said that, lets hope that Michael is still very much alive and is getting himself healthy again…Hopefully he has made a new life for himself and will be reunited with his children…Supposedly he also had a secret girlfriend whom he loved and adored and who was not a celebrity..Let's pray he has started a new life with this woman somewhere..I kind of thought he might leave the States for good and start a new life out in the middle east …Wasn't he flirting with the Islamic faith..He did spend that time in Bahrain {Spelling?}..I really hope he is alive, but I doubt we will ever know the truth..x



Hi, all!  I'm glad that a forum has been created for this site! 

I've always been curious about that 911 call.  My questions are:  Why didn't the doctor call 911?  Why did someone else call?  And why didn't the person who called 911 address Michael as “Michael Jackson,” or as “Michael,” but refer to him as “…a gentleman here…”?  I don't know about y'all, but if someone told me to call  911 because the “King of Pop,” Michael Jackson, was in cardiac arrest, I'd mention his name to the 911 operator and be going nuts telling them to send help immediately!  More importantly, why wasn't MJJ taken to a hospital via private car instead of waiting on an ambulance?  Things just aren't adding up here at all……

11:09 am
July 13, 2009


TheTruthSeeker

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First off, I don't live in America, so I don't know about the situation there regarding the 911 call, but here, apperently the media somehow get first hand info when something happens like someone commit suicide etc via the emergency phone call, they are always the first to get to the scene.

So I assume it's the same in America, is there a possibility that the caller of the 911 call didn't want the media to know that 'gentleman' he was referring to was Michael? It doesn't matter either Michael was indeed not breathing or it was part of his plan faking his death, the caller and his associates wouldn't want the media to be there, would they? But there comes the weird part (well, though everything else is weird anyway), why someone was able to take that photo of 'Michael' assuming no one knew that was Michael? I think, that photo sort of prove that Michael is faking his death, first, if I happened to see an ambulance on the street, and mind you, no one knows what's going on nor who's on the ambulance, it wouldn't even cross my mind to take a photo of that person, right? Second, you wouldn't take a clear photo like that one if you say only have a second or 2 to take a photo in a hurry. Third, those windows were tinted black…

That's just a thought.

I still think that nothing adds up from the start.

2:05 pm
July 13, 2009


truthseeker

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What are you talking about? They knew it was Michael Jackson going to the hosptial because a ambulance went speeding to his property on the most famous street in LA. The picture was taken as MJ was being taken out of the ambulance to the ER.


I think its funny how certain people say the truth doesn't add but randomly think their whacko theories about fake dead and terminally ill bodies does make sense.

2:23 pm
July 13, 2009


Miss Dahmer

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truthseeker said:

What are you talking about? They knew it was Michael Jackson going to the hosptial because a ambulance went speeding to his property on the most famous street in LA. The picture was taken as MJ was being taken out of the ambulance to the ER.


I think its funny how certain people say the truth doesn't add but randomly think their whacko theories about fake dead and terminally ill bodies does make sense.


While I do agree with you – I heard that no press nor paps were allowed anywhere near the ambulance as they unloaded his 'body'. There is even a photo as he is being carried away in the stretcher into the hospital doors, and even one guy is holding a jacket up so that no one can see who is on the stretcher. I am not debating with you though! I'm just saying. I also think it's quite funny that as soon as news got out that 'MJ' was at UCLA, A LOT of people were questioning if it was really MJ or not. The news kept saying that people first knew it was an older black male, and people HAD suspicions that it was MJ but no one could confirm it.

‘I think in some way I wanted it to end, even if it meant my own destruction.’

5:44 pm
July 13, 2009


dragon

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i just had that idea all day long.

in the 70ties,1970,was a game born in germany,called the milliongame.

it was like a scavenger hunt.
somebody was followed by killers.
everyone in germany thought this thing was real,and they need to find that gangster.
they even interviewed the persons on the street,during the time,when the game was on tv.

the peoples said,if they will find him,they gonna shoot him.

this movie was on the tv for a week.every evening,the streets were empty.well,i was born 77,but i herad about it…..
the audience was so involved of it,that the couldnt handle the real truth anymore.

wow,and this was born in gemany.they even pretend on the end,of that real tv gam,that the ganster suicide himself……..

those peoples were so braiwashed by the tv,they couldnt see the truth anymore of it…..

thats what im thinking about this michael story now…..

www.myspace.om/dragonsilver77…per aspera ad astra..

5:48 pm
July 13, 2009


emanviam

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MissC said:

Well, first of all, I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking Michael might be alive. When his death was announced at first couldn't believe it, I was in shock like most people. Days went by and I started wondering if all this could somehow be a hoax, if he really could have faked his death and the thing is, he can. When you have money and contacts, you certainly can.

Now, this site has pointed out many things that makes lots of sense. Two things I would rule out are the iluminus theo (sp?) thing and the fact that he might have died in 1984. Too fictitious and imaginative for me. Let's keep things real. (We also agree that the guy who sang at the start of 'We are the world' its not Michael, again let's keep things real.)

As most of you said (and agree), I don't think the Michael from the press conference was indeed Michael. What I notice as well, is that the guy (the Michael) who's at the auditions looks too like the Michael from the press conference. The Michael from the rehearsals is definitely Michael Jackson for me. The photo from the rehearsals, I don't think it was photoshoped, I mean you can clearly see his legs are covering part of the I and S.

Now hours after his “death” there was a photo taken of him, suposdly when he was being rushed to the hospital. That guys complexion is darker that Michaels. and if you see it carefully, there's like tension on his face. and suposdly he's 'not conscious'. There's also a video where we see the camera man trying to get close to the ambulance but even though he gets close enough, we see is too dark to catch something. In the video we can't see anyone with a photo camera, or at least I didn't catch it. And to get that photo someone must have made use of a flash, without it I don't think is possible someone got that picture. The thing is in the video we don't see: – someone with a camera nor a flash from somewhere. Where (and when) was that picture taken?.

Hours after his death also someone released the famous 'phone call' to 911. I think everyone here agrees that that phone call is beyond weird. and some basic questions weren't asked. The analization of the phone call says everything. Like, when the guy says 'call us back if you need any help'. I mean: SOMEONE IS DYING. Without question of course they need help. Then, when the guy ask if he's conscious and if he's breathing, when the man says 'no', this guy ask again if Michael is conscious. I mean, if you're not breating, then YOU'RE NOT CONSCIOUS.  As I wrote, too weird.

Then, we have what tabloids are speculating. Drugs. Come on, no one would have ever let him prepare this serie of concerts, perform if this guy was on drugs. And the fact that he was taking 50 pills a day. He would have been dead months ago.

Now LaToya gave this interview first to the daily mail (I mean, I read it first there) where she says that he might have been murder. and that he has 3 marks on his neck. Correct me if I'm wrong, after the first (or second, I truly lost the track of how many “autopsies” they did) autopsy they said he didn't have any kind of marks.Thing we have to remember is that it's a tabloid and LaToya is not what I would call… trusty. Article says that she was closest to Michael. I'm sorry, I'm not a fan of Michael but as far as I know, he was closest to Janet (He said it himself, and she did too). What I don't understand, is why, from all the Jacksons, LaToya is the one who speaks up. Come on, she didn't exactly get alone to well with Michael, after all she did to him.

Every time a new article is published, I even have more questions than answers and it's bothering me BIG TIME cause the press (or his family) certainly believe some people are very stupid and that no one ever is going to suspect that something really weird is going on.


It's all a real mess, I swear. and I might definitely be missing something. I mean, the doctor disappearance, the memorial (the fact that some of his closest friends didn't attend),  his mother shopping one day after, lack of interest from his dad, the fake 'ghost' on cnn, IT'S ALL WEIRD.

He might be dead as well as he might be alive. He has reasons to do this. Maybe to pursue a normal life out of the spotlight, maybe because he wants to top everything he did so far and wants to shock us, maybe he wants to know who his real friends are, or maybe to make some more money (this past 2 weeks, he made LOADS of money, thats for sure) to pay his debts. I could see maybe he's simply dead but thing is, how could he die? He didn't have a drug problem (I'm not buying it, I swear). I don't either believe that someone kill him, because first autopsy revealed he didn't have marks.


I am puzzled, I swear. but one thing I know for sure it's that something reaaally strange is going on.

Anyway. I think that by August 29 we'll have an answer. For now, all we can do is to debate. or wait til someone sees Michael (though I don't think he's stupid enough to make himself visible for now).

I absolutely agree with you in every aspect of your post.  I really mean it, I was going to write just everything you just said…It may be that he died or that he is alive and will come back some day (I really hope so, and I will not rest until I find the truth).  My feelings are that he is alive and reading all this posts from somewhere while he rests and have a normal life until he is ready to come.

La Toya? She close to her little brother….actually, she accused Mike saying that he was a pedophile…do you think that was smart?

I think Janet was really the closest one to Mike…

If you are reading this, Mike…please, be sure we are not behind your money or fame…I truly love you, and I will love to be your TRUE friend…even if you make me to sign a contract

I love you, from the bottom of my heart…

Smile, though your heart is aching….


Michael Jackson Number ONE fan… I LOVE you Michael, I am truly and deeply your friend… If you smile with your fear and sorrow Smile and maybe tomorrow You’ll find that life is still worthwhile if you’ll just… SMILE I love you, Michael

4:02 am
July 14, 2009


miu

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I've been reading all these discussions and I too really want to believe that he's alive. Though when they had that memorial at Forest Lawn Cemetery everyone has said that it was open casket. With around 70 people there, how could they have faked that open casket? I don't think Michael Jackson would've had 70 people in on his hoax, mabe around 30 yeah…but not 70. Even though they were his family and friends…70 people is a lot of people and who knows when one person will break their silence?

5:15 pm
July 16, 2009


BelieverAngel90

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I heard that he took over 10,000 pills in 6 months (no one can do that is seriously impossible) …. a few months ago , they said he passed his physcial with flying colors … and I heard when they do blood tests – check for everything , seriously – I got a physical a 2 weeks ago(July 1 and I had stop crying and control myself in the Doctor's office , but started to cry again at home) and check me for everything … (Diabetes , Blood Pressure , etc.) the doctor would have said something about Michael having too many pills in his system unless he paid the doctor inadvanced before the physical …  and If I was Michael's Close Friend , I would have said something a long time ago … and tell him “please , tell me – are u addicted and do I need to interventin …” and I would love to be his REAL friend … I really care about him and hearing the Bulls***t on Tv makes so angry and frustrated at times – I get a headache and have to leave the room (I am serious , I would love to be his friend).


and the Phone called kinda tip me off … (we have ”a Gentleman ” here not breathing , unconcious) and the man sounded Monotone – Like on the phone … you didn't feel any pain or sadness or a kind of emotion on the 911 phone and The Doctor wasn't the one is calling this (if he was in the room – would have noticed something was wrong ??)  …. mostly when you hear a 911 phone call – some is crying or frantic or overwhelmed or can't breath (nervous) Hyperventaling – like sounds. This Guy is (very calm and responsive) in this phone call … and I don't understand – If the Doctor is using CPR on him (hard surfaces for CPR)- should Michael been on the floor ??? not on the bed ??? (He's 50 years old and Lives in California) … (No name announced – “A Gentlemen”) … and The Doctor is practically a Fugative – Dr. Conrad Murry … Espaced Houston Location and Other Location - (I forgot ) Owns some Money in the Millions  and Child Support… and Leaves without getting caught ???

My emotions have never be played this badly in my life (no joke) - I was crying , confused and angry - 3 weeks with bloodshot eyes (pratically blind a moment & eye drops in my pocket) … and Really Depressed (didn't eat for 4 days)… Michael played a huge num. on me and Now , I know he is still alive – I  can finally stop having the weird pain in my stomach.


and I rememberd some songs of Michael – ” Tabloid Junkie” and ” Xscape” and “Privacy” and “Leave Me Alone” – kinda made me remember.

“Michael … I understand … I am sad I never got to talk to you … like a normal person.” *Sweet Sweet Earth Angel A.K.A. Michael*

5:41 pm
July 16, 2009


emo_pinkt

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truthseeker said:

What are you talking about? They knew it was Michael Jackson going to the hosptial because a ambulance went speeding to his property on the most famous street in LA. The picture was taken as MJ was being taken out of the ambulance to the ER.


I think its funny how certain people say the truth doesn't add but randomly think their whacko theories about fake dead and terminally ill bodies does make sense.


Not true if you actually watched the interview with the guys who actually took the photo you will realise that they took the photo in his yard. While he was inside the ambulance..Its wierd that they didnt go to the hospital. The man also said that he sent the photographers there since in the morning and they looked in the ambulance and saw the call saying 50 year old male and w/e. Will provide the links shortly but I really dont know what you're on about. Nothing really makes sense.

***RIP Michael Jackson**

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