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7:09 pm July 14, 2009
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Its no secret he was a believer of existance of the Illuminati. Shown he became muslim and his speeches and everything shown in his videoclips. Ironicly the last footage of him is of the rehearsel, they dont care about us…
Did many of u knew he was a believer and what u make out of that? Giving his “preaching” in his music
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7:12 pm July 14, 2009
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:S he was a “believer”?,
Explain more, whats the point, he follow them, or just he know they exists, did he was part of them
God Bless you
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7:13 pm July 14, 2009
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Yeah….
NWO
Illuminati…. VERY heavy in the music industry…
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7:27 pm July 14, 2009
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He believed they existed. If u dont know what it is, read about it more and watch clips of him and it will become very clear he was a believer.
Do u believe in it? And whats ur opinion of him believing?
Also look at these 4 parts, i give one, search the others urselves.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..p;index=11
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7:53 pm July 14, 2009
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I can´t believe this. Michael is an ARTIST, and he could be inspired by films, mythology, art or literatture… I bet he likes Edgard Allan Poe tales, ( ghosts, thriller etc), Aegiptian things, ( seeing his adored Liz Taylor in film “Cleopatra”).. There are visual archetipes, surrealist links in the art with the unconscious…..we are talking about creativity.
All this weird links with the evil makes me laugh, sorry if i offend any believer of it.
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8:06 pm July 14, 2009
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Wendy Darling said:
I can´t believe this. Michael is an ARTIST, and he could be inspired by films, mythology, art or literatture… I bet he likes Edgard Allan Poe tales, ( ghosts, thriller etc), Aegiptian things, ( seeing his adored Liz Taylor in film “Cleopatra”).. There are visual archetipes, surrealist links in the art with the unconscious…..we are talking about creativity.
All this weird links with the evil makes me laugh, sorry if i offend any believer of it.
Wendy,
This evil controls the entertainment industry.. It's not farfetched at all. Michael was an extremely intelligent man and MUCH more than an artist…
Every song he ever wrote came from a life experience…
He was tired of being a f**king puppet and wanted out of that mess. he wasn't thrown into it by choice..
These 'rediculous' links are no more rediculous than this site… Do you know how many people are making fun of this site? Saying that everyone on here is a nutjob? But no on here is… It is what it is. This site is full of highly intelligent observant people that know something is up…
If Mr. Jackson did infact fake his death, he needs A LOT more pull than just being an “artist”..
Of course we are all entitled to our opions..
To everybody else that should assume this “illuminati” shit is made up and silly?
I just have to say ignorance is bliss and I don't mean that in a rude or disrespectful way… Honestly, you don't EVEN want to start opening your mind up to this shit.. Once you see what's real, it NEVER goes away.
I believe Michael learned this the hard way…
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8:12 pm July 14, 2009
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Lol I think u dont understan much of it. In this belief, religion, whatever, u have satanist vs christians, muslims,… Since he became a Muslim… And his speeches about the illiminati, he's def a believer of the antichrist, not that he's that one..
So u laugh with it, u laugh with Michael, disbelief him.
Lets not debate about the existence of illuminati but the fact Mj was a believer and he”preached” it to the world. Whats ur opinion about that? Thats where I wanna go. Does it change the way u look at him?
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8:17 pm July 14, 2009
| Ella
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Flipmo said:
Lol I think u dont understan much of it. In this belief, religion, whatever, u have satanist vs christians, muslims,… Since he became a Muslim… And his speeches about the illiminati, he's def a believer of the antichrist, not that he's that one..
So u laugh with it, u laugh with Michael, disbelief him.
Lets not debate about the existence of illuminati but the fact Mj was a believer and he”preached” it to the world. Whats ur opinion about that? Thats where I wanna go. Does it change the way u look at him?
You are wise.. I don't think a lot of his fanbase really undstood his message and what he was saying. It's almost like a culture shock… They see him as the artist which is a wonderful and beautiful thing, but they don't understand the politcal side of things..
I think it will change a lot of peoples views on him when they understand ,but not in a bad way.. But I think a lot of people will start to consider that he was murdered.. Even though of course he didn't let it go that far..
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Post edited 1:55 pm – July 15, 2009 by SkylinexBleedsxRed
I believe the muslim escape was he wanted to explore what people told him about it being a “peaceful” religion. I think he was naive and it was sort of pushed on him with books and lectures. As far as he always was, He always remained with Christianity beliefs. He knew who the Lord was. No question.
He may have knew too much about the illuminati, But he wasn't part of them. Big difference. No telling what he went through. We only see the surface. He felt fear that someone was out to kill him for any possible reason. He had to get out before something bad really did happen.
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9:00 pm July 14, 2009
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SkylinexBleedsxRed said:
Post edited 8:52 pm – July 14, 2009 by SkylinexBleedsxRed
I believe the muslim escape was he wanted to explore what people told him about it being a “peaceful” religion. I think he was naive and it was sort of pushed on him with books and lectures. As far as he always was, He always remained with Christianity beliefs. He knew who the Lord was. No question.
He may have knew too much about them, But he wasn't part of them. Big difference. No telling what he went through. We only see the surface. He felt fear that someone was out to kill him for any possible reason. He had to get out before something bad really did happen.
“We only see the surface. He felt fear that someone was out to kill him for any possible reason. He had to get out before something bad really did happen.”
I just did a quick search on the Illuminati, about them being rulers of the world and over people and the NWO, it's too much for me tonight but enough to keep me up all night tonight in bed thinking they will come after me soon. Who needs horror movies when all one has to do is study up on this subject?
Question for anyone who knows more about this subject than me…:
If Michael did fake his death because of this 'organization' will he still be able to be in contact with his family and children or would it be too risky?
If he did this to escape I would totally understand 100% and I am glad he did what he had to do, I just wonder if he will be able to be in contact with the family or not.
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“With such confusion don’t it make you wanna scream
You bash abusing victimize within the scheme
You try to cope with every lie they scrutinize
Somebody please have mercy cause I just can’t take it ”
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9:03 pm July 14, 2009
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Sorry, Don´t misunderstand me please!. I hardly know anything about this subject, I speak without thinking enough. I referred this watching the video posted in this topic with all this images of Michael with lights behind linked with satanic iconography. Of course, an artist always speaks about his way of seeing the world, his feelings, his worries, and try to make the world a better place to live ( in this last point Michael is the better) but i mentioned all that visual references because I don´t think that Michael was forced by an misterious or satanic power to make videos like Thriller, Smooth Criminal or Ghost, with subliminal messages or dance in the way he does..
I write very bad english, so I can´t express myself very well
I was speaking from the naivety.
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9:22 pm July 14, 2009
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Wendy Darling said:
Sorry, Don´t misunderstand me please!. I hardly know anything about this subject, I speak without thinking enough. I referred this watching the video posted in this topic with all this images of Michael with lights behind linked with satanic iconography. Of course, an artist always speaks about his way of seeing the world, his feelings, his worries, and try to make the world a better place to live ( in this last point Michael is the better) but i mentioned all that visual references because I don´t think that Michael was forced by an misterious or satanic power to make videos like Thriller, Smooth Criminal or Ghost, with subliminal messages or dance in the way he does..
I write very bad english, so I can´t express myself very well
I was speaking from the naivety.
having read about the illuminati and the NWO many years ago (my family has owned books about it, as it's something we believe in) i'm not shocked if this is what's really going on. i don't want it to be, but i wouldn't be surprised. the whole thing is scary…and DAWNEVEE said it right, who needs horror when there's this. that even makes me think that one blog posting at this site about illuminus “whatever” is at least partially true. the article said something to the effect of if he comes back, it will not be as the entertainer. i'm just thinking then, “how??” won't he give some kind of message to his fans to let us know he's doing well? and what about his family? if the illuminati is involved, i don't see how his family could not be at risk. the whole thing is just crazy. it's getting late here and i'm tired, so i'm gonna save my research for tomorrow. please keep posting whatever more you can find about this. i hope i don't have bad dreams about this tonight
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9:47 pm July 14, 2009
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DawneVee said:
SkylinexBleedsxRed said:
Post edited 8:52 pm – July 14, 2009 by SkylinexBleedsxRed
I believe the muslim escape was he wanted to explore what people told him about it being a “peaceful” religion. I think he was naive and it was sort of pushed on him with books and lectures. As far as he always was, He always remained with Christianity beliefs. He knew who the Lord was. No question.
He may have knew too much about them, But he wasn't part of them. Big difference. No telling what he went through. We only see the surface. He felt fear that someone was out to kill him for any possible reason. He had to get out before something bad really did happen.
“We only see the surface. He felt fear that someone was out to kill him for any possible reason. He had to get out before something bad really did happen.”
I just did a quick search on the Illuminati, about them being rulers of the world and over people and the NWO, it's too much for me tonight but enough to keep me up all night tonight in bed thinking they will come after me soon. Who needs horror movies when all one has to do is study up on this subject?
Question for anyone who knows more about this subject than me…:
If Michael did fake his death because of this 'organization' will he still be able to be in contact with his family and children or would it be too risky?
If he did this to escape I would totally understand 100% and I am glad he did what he had to do, I just wonder if he will be able to be in contact with the family or not.
He is without a doubt with his children. I don't think he faked his death to hide from the people that wanted to take him down. They could obviously find him if they wanted. I think that he made the choice that protecting his family was MUCH more important than exposing truth to the world.. He has children to think about and these people are sick and will do anything.. Oh man.. Just yeah… I think he's with his kids.
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9:49 pm July 14, 2009
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Wendy Darling said:
Sorry, Don´t misunderstand me please!. I hardly know anything about this subject, I speak without thinking enough. I referred this watching the video posted in this topic with all this images of Michael with lights behind linked with satanic iconography. Of course, an artist always speaks about his way of seeing the world, his feelings, his worries, and try to make the world a better place to live ( in this last point Michael is the better) but i mentioned all that visual references because I don´t think that Michael was forced by an misterious or satanic power to make videos like Thriller, Smooth Criminal or Ghost, with subliminal messages or dance in the way he does..
I write very bad english, so I can´t express myself very well
I was speaking from the naivety.
Are you familiar with the rapper Jay-Z??
Check this out… Jay-z is HEAVILY involved with the illuminati….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..B-0V0jq0Fo
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4:01 am July 15, 2009
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Sorry I gave a wrong post, lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..vRI1VnQAEc
heres a good one, be sure look all 4 parts
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5:33 pm July 16, 2009
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micheal was against illuminati he did not believe in it this is why he covered his children faces and always gave the peace sign he believed in god not new world order brainwashing look further ppl behind the media
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6:19 pm July 16, 2009
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oh well, here we go again…supermom..it seems to me that you knew Michael in person at one time…you're in every illuminati post saying: no he did not believe in it and it is risky..you seem to know a lot about the subject…sorry but I'm getting that impresion. Now let's face it…Illuminati it too high up..there are many old civilizations who believed in many things…take our country Mexico, we are lucky to have a wonderful maya cuture…and they believed in the Sun God, Quetzacoatl, the Phoenix who left at sunrise burning in it's own ashes..the aztec and mayan calendars have a sun at the center right? it also is simiilar to Egyptian Ra…the eye who watches our actions on Earth, who left on a ship to come back, Jesus surrounding the arab countries who gave us a way of living on Earth after the Old testament came to a full circle and humanity had gone to waste. Curiously, all 3 cultures have similiar signs, calendars and Higher Power beliefs…a group of Olmecas who lived on the Yucatan Penninsula were mixtecos…where never seen again,, same as Toltecas..who developed those huge statues dedicated to the Sun…I believe you are a true Christian and all of this may make you angry…but you must understand these cultures existed during Moses days,, and the Jesus came to unite all countries and make them understand there is only one God. His prophets went to every corner, telling those new cultures about one God, they really suffered ddn't they. We were conquered by the Spanish, who came to impose their Catholic beliefs and destroyed soooo many beautiful relics..is that good? you know that mexico was and still is rich in natural jewels? they took so much…Now, MJ was not a little boy…no sir..he is a magnificant artist and lover of all art…how do you if he didn't spend a lifetime reading and projected all those wonderful cultures on his videos…plus many are masons…art makes you think, sorry and praying a rosary over and over just won't give many answers, so however it is…no I don't think Illuminati wanted him dead..sorry…he was probably respected by those people give MJ credit people, everyone makes him sound like a bozo with no culture who had Peter Pan syndrome..come on…respect the man!!!
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6:30 pm July 16, 2009
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stephykat said:
oh well, here we go again…supermom..it seems to me that you knew Michael in person at one time…you're in every illuminati post saying: no he did not believe in it and it is risky..you seem to know a lot about the subject…sorry but I'm getting that impresion. Now let's face it…Illuminati it too high up..there are many old civilizations who believed in many things…take our country Mexico, we are lucky to have a wonderful maya cuture…and they believed in the Sun God, Quetzacoatl, the Phoenix who left at sunrise burning in it's own ashes..the aztec and mayan calendars have a sun at the center right? it also is simiilar to Egyptian Ra…the eye who watches our actions on Earth, who left on a ship to come back, Jesus surrounding the arab countries who gave us a way of living on Earth after the Old testament came to a full circle and humanity had gone to waste. Curiously, all 3 cultures have similiar signs, calendars and Higher Power beliefs…a group of Olmecas who lived on the Yucatan Penninsula were mixtecos…where never seen again,, same as Toltecas..who developed those huge statues dedicated to the Sun…I believe you are a true Christian and all of this may make you angry…but you must understand these cultures existed during Moses days,, and the Jesus came to unite all countries and make them understand there is only one God. His prophets went to every corner, telling those new cultures about one God, they really suffered ddn't they. We were conquered by the Spanish, who came to impose their Catholic beliefs and destroyed soooo many beautiful relics..is that good? you know that mexico was and still is rich in natural jewels? they took so much…Now, MJ was not a little boy…no sir..he is a magnificant artist and lover of all art…how do you if he didn't spend a lifetime reading and projected all those wonderful cultures on his videos…plus many are masons…art makes you think, sorry and praying a rosary over and over just won't give many answers, so however it is…no I don't think Illuminati wanted him dead..sorry…he was probably respected by those people give MJ credit people, everyone makes him sound like a bozo with no culture who had Peter Pan syndrome..come on…respect the man!!!
i did know him so i tried figure it out by urself i have more to work on this is part but it is a dead end now look at this link find out why he feared it find out how it controled him and find out why laytoya said it will be a mess and alot of ppl are involved
http://www.illuminati-news.com…..-trial.htm
do not worry i will nor post on this no more you all think you know what it is it is bigger then you trust me
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9:40 pm July 16, 2009
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well, I had read that article these days…the only thing I can say is…most of the top mexican musicians, even the ones from my hometown are masons…as the town's industrial and tourist matrons…I really don't think they are satanists..there are however many drug circles who are terrible and are proven to belong to satanic cults…as I say I see masons as free thinkers that have taken a good look into history…at the end…I just hope MJ will prove to everyone of his wisdom and creativity through his messages and vids and signs…the Illuminati or any other group will never take that away from him…but if this cult is a humanity exterminator..welll I will keep on investigating so that I'm ready for when it hits…cause if I keep my eyes closed it'lll only destroy me…good night
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