Michael Jackson Hoax Death

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8:26 pm
July 29, 2009


bec

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I think everyone needs to turn on the “real” news and listen, really listen to what they are “reporting”.


Are we really even sure there is an investigation at this point? Everytime an article or spokesman refers to a MJ investigation notice they manage to reference the molestation trial investigation in the same breath. Example:


Portrait of Jackson's pill consumption emerges

updated 4:33 p.m. EDT, Fri July 10, 2009

LOS ANGELES, California (CNN)

— Singer Michael Jackson took more than 10 Xanax pills a night, asking his employees to get the prescription medicine under their names and also personally traveling to doctors' offices in other states to obtain them, said a confidential document from 2004 that CNN obtained Thursday.

Notice the source is always “an unnamed source close to _____” (fill in the blank department) or another media source who's source is the unnamed source.


Source: Jackson's doctor gave drug authorities believe killed him

updated 10:26 a.m. EDT, Tue July 28, 2009

LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) — Michael Jackson's personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, administered a powerful drug that authorities believe killed the singer, a source with knowledge of the investigation confirmed to CNN on Monday.

I noticed tonight, CNN.com is now officially refering to it as “the Michael Jackson Investigation”, leaving off the word death.


The news has nothing to talk about except comments from unnamed sources, fired nurses and chefs. One channel reports the latest hearsay and they all bring an independent expert on the air to talk about IF this THEN that for 45 minutes and call it news.


I too hope it's a hoax because the alternative is really disturbing.

What do you think about that, Give.It.To.Me?

8:31 pm
July 29, 2009


Rachel

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Good call on the investigation wording. I hadn't noticed that before but I'm sure I will notice it everywhere now!

My thinking is maybe people are starting to wise up to this and that's the reason they are holding off from using the word “death”? However, when it comes to the media I honestly don't know what to believe anymore.

Oh BTW what would be the disturbing alternative? I'm pretty dense lol

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8:34 pm
July 29, 2009


dklayne

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Did anyone else notice Larry King's comment earlier? Something like “He's not gonna come back”. I can't remember the exact wording, but it struck me as odd.

So, as sad as it may seem, I feel the need to turn my signature into a disclaimer. At NO point in time to I intend to be rude in my postings, and unless specifically stated otherwise, my posts ARE NOT directed at any particular person, just for the rec

8:37 pm
July 29, 2009


bec

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The disturbing alternative is that MJ dies in this much public shame and dishonor, Wacko Jacko in the media to the very end.

What do you think about that, Give.It.To.Me?

8:38 pm
July 29, 2009


pinkrose35

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I have noticed too that the word “death” is left out.   It also kind of makes you wonder how many “unnamed sources” they have. My favorite one that they use is “a source who wishes to remain anonomous because they are not authorized to speak on the case”. Oh really? Then why are they talking? And why are they quoting those people instead of oh I don't know actual “official” sources who can speak on the case? Maybe because there really isn't a case and there is no REAL sources to quote.

8:40 pm
July 29, 2009


Kurious

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bec said:

The disturbing alternative is that MJ dies in this much public shame and dishonor, Wacko Jacko in the media to the very end.


Wako Jacko?  Please.

8:40 pm
July 29, 2009


Rachel

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bec said:

The disturbing alternative is that MJ dies in this much public shame and dishonor, Wacko Jacko in the media to the very end.


Thanks for explaining!

That would be horrific. I really hope it's not true and I believe in my heart he is still alive, but if it's true poor Michael. No-one deserves this kind of treatment.

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8:41 pm
July 29, 2009


Miss Dahmer

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pinkrose35 said:

I have noticed too that the word “death” is left out.   It also kind of makes you wonder how many “unnamed sources” they have. My favorite one that they use is “a source who wishes to remain anonomous because they are not authorized to speak on the case”. Oh really? Then why are they talking? And why are they quoting those people instead of oh I don't know actual “official” sources who can speak on the case? Maybe because there really isn't a case and there is no REAL sources to quote.


AMEN!

‘I think in some way I wanted it to end, even if it meant my own destruction.’

8:47 pm
July 29, 2009


MJthelegendlives

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Like I said in some other thread…Reporters are getting their news from the news…

8:48 pm
July 29, 2009


answers

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GREAT pick up Bec!

- the mold was broken when Michael Jackson was created

8:48 pm
July 29, 2009


bec

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First the media says he was a drug addict based on documents from 2004. Then the parade of people come forward saying he has a drug problem and doctor shops. Then a nurse says he wanted Diprivan. Then suddenly the body is described as “riddled with needle marks” (unnamed source) and IV bags containing “what may be Diprivan” are found.


The media have been the ones pushing for a criminal investigation for weeks. No one mentions criminal investigation except “unnamed sources close to the investigation” ie the media. Then the media wants manslaughter charges. The words “Michael Jackson”, “Doctor”, and “Manslaughter” were all over the news for days because they might be coming? Could be? Should be, right? Finally Dr. Murray's lawyer gets up and announces that his client's office is being searched for a manslaughter investigation. HPD has “no comment”.


How much of an investigation is actually being conducted and on what is purely speculative at this point with the information we are being told.

What do you think about that, Give.It.To.Me?

8:49 pm
July 29, 2009


Peace

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Good post. I do the hear d-word on ET a lot. Like when Michael Jackson died, then something else. They interviewed Tito and said when 'Michael died.' Well you know, he did die, then they brought him back to life at the hospital according to a doctor who spoke to CNN. Also, the whole Janet telling Tito over the phone, to pull over on the road to tell him that Michael died sounds pretty legit. Why would they go as far as making up these stories of how they found out the news.


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8:54 pm
July 29, 2009


bec

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Kurious said:

bec said:

The disturbing alternative is that MJ dies in this much public shame and dishonor, Wacko Jacko in the media to the very end.


Wako Jacko?  Please.


I know, right? Exactly my point. I really want MJ to get the last laugh.

What do you think about that, Give.It.To.Me?

8:55 pm
July 29, 2009


BelieverAngel90

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I stop listening to CNN and FOX  … for 1 month and stop listening to TMZ a lot as well … I just don't trust them anymore.

“Michael … I understand … I am sad I never got to talk to you … like a normal person.” *Sweet Sweet Earth Angel A.K.A. Michael*

8:59 pm
July 29, 2009


The Truth

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Walter Cronkite is rolling in his grave.

8:59 pm
July 29, 2009


shyone

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Source: Jackson's doctor gave drug authorities believe killed him

updated 10:26 a.m. EDT, Tue July 28, 2009

LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) — Michael Jackson's personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, administered a powerful drug that authorities believe killed the singer, a source with knowledge of the investigation confirmed to CNN on Monday

This was discussed earlier this evening on CNN, Headline News with AJ Hammer, Nancy Grace and JVM Issues.  Suddenly all of the focus is on MJ's personal physician. They actually showed the man walking from the sidewalk to his home. At the same time they are saying he undoubtedly gave MJ the drug that killed him. They are also saying he's not being charged and he's free to leave the country if he desires. I want to know where are the toxicology reports? If Dr. Murray gave MJ Diprivan; doctors have said supposedly it's not traceable in the body after so many hours. So, how are they able to say that MJ had so much Diprivan in his body that it could have killed 12 people? Without a toxicology report could that statement be made and counted as valid. I feel as though the media is fishing. They are just as much in dark as the rest of us. It doesn't take much to see that none of this adds up no matter how much you attempt to figure it out.  Yes! MJ is very much alive. Keep the Faith! God Bless!

 

9:12 pm
July 29, 2009


bec

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BelieverAngel90 said:

I stop listening to CNN and FOX  … for 1 month and stop listening to TMZ a lot as well … I just don't trust them anymore.


It's not so much stop listening as start really listening. Listen to what words they chose and what they refuse to comment on. They will begin a report with the quick little “According to an unnamed source, x,y and shockingly! Z“, and then proceed to babble on about Z all night long and you've long ago forgotten that this entire segement is based on a speculation and rumor (unnamed source). If you come into the broadcast anytime after the first 3 seconds of the segment you'll miss this information completely and you'll believe everything that is being said is what are TRUE, HARD, FACTS about Michael Jackson. You won't realise that these are true facts indeed, but not about MJ, they are true about a person who is/was/does x, y, and (especially, don't forget!) z.


It's: IF this happened, THEN this is true reporting. Reporting truths about speculations. So you can't really accuse them of lying. They tell you they're guessing right up front in the beginning (”unnamed sources reveal…”) but if you miss that part too bad for you.


If someone came onto a message board and tried to make these claims with unnamed sources (my friend says…) we'd run them off as heasay-ridden trolls! But when it's on TV with BIG BRIGHT FLASHING letters for some reason we believe it to carry some credibility regardless of how unlikely the story seems.

What do you think about that, Give.It.To.Me?

9:16 pm
July 29, 2009


The Truth

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I blame Dan Rather.

9:18 pm
July 29, 2009


Alfaomega

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Post edited 8:29 pm – July 31, 2009 by Alfaomega


Bec,

This is really an excellent observation! You´re starting to see through the  “veil” of lies and confussion.


The memorial ´s cenral point-body- was to show the whole world, who Michael Joseph Jackson-the Man- truly is in esence, as well as to show all the great things -humanitarism- he has done for the world,…the real Michael that the Media never or barely mentioned, in order to clean all the lies and difamation that were fabricated and orquestrated on him, the media inquisition that kept repeating the same idea:MJ is a “child abuser” even the day tat was announced his “death” and the following days.


Check this out in TMZ:

http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/29/…..ing-trial/


Now, at the beginning of the video, when the woman interviewing Dick Gregory, Jackson's longtime buddy says:…in 2005

Do you see a video in the background showing a yellow van? Can you see how the cameraman takes a careful close-up of the word LOCK?


Well, if we check the ,meaning of the word “lock” , most of the people would say that it means:

Main Entry: lock
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: device that fastens and bars free passage
Synonyms:

bar, bolt, bond, catch, clamp, clasp, clinch, connection, fastening, fixture, grapple, grip, hasp, hook, junction, latch, link, padlock, assurance.


But there is another meaning and this is the meaning that is being used. Why? Because an MJ´s long time buddy is being interviewed and he is telling the truth about his buddy MJ.

Here´s the second meaning:

LOCK:

Main Entry: assurance
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: statement to relieve doubt
Synonyms:

affirmation, assertion, declaration, guarantee, insurance, lock on, lock*, oath, pledge, profession, promise, rain or shine, security, shoo-in, support, sure thing, vow, warrant, warranty, word, word of honor

Do you think this is a coincidence?…Not at all.

They are investigating the files and everything related to MJ´s 2nd trial, 2003-2005.Why? Because…because it was the second time he was charged with the same accusations as in 1993, and many people who believed in his innocence back in 1993,  didn´t believe a 100% in his  innocence this time …although he was aquitted..

and the Media fed  the public with this idea of MJ concept of “pedophile” and “child abuser” always mentioning the trials and the accusations ( even the day of his “death announcement” , and kept silence  or mentioned it without giving  it any importance: the fact that he was aquitted of those charges..


You even heard or read about this congresman, stating that MJ was a “pedo”..right.


Well, now every investigation is directed to these years, they want to find the truth too.


If they find out and are 100% convinced that he was innocent and a devilish trap was set on him, in order to destroy him and his carreer…his whole reputation is going to be cleaned and he is going to “raise from the death”.


Does t make sense?

9:49 pm
July 29, 2009


bec

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I'm confused alfaomega. My belief is that the media injects references to the 2004 case to confuse the reader into thinking that the entire body of the article is information pertaining to the current “investigation” because they simply don't have enough real “news” to fill it.

What do you think about that, Give.It.To.Me?

10:01 pm
July 29, 2009


Tenderoni

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Peace said:

Well you know, he did die, then they brought him back to life at the hospital according to a doctor who spoke to CNN.



That's not true.  This was discussed in another thread.  The doctor was asked IF Michael is in a coma, what would that mean.  The doctor responded that it would mean they revived him.  He was simply discussing a hypothetical situation to explain to viewers what they meant by “coma” (basically to waste time keeping people watching because they didn't really have any more info at that moment).  CNN does this all the time.

10:07 pm
July 29, 2009


eva05

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bec said:


If someone came onto a message board and tried to make these claims with unnamed sources (my friend says…) we'd run them off as heasay-ridden trolls! But when it's on TV with BIG BRIGHT FLASHING letters for some reason we believe it to carry some credibility regardless of how unlikely the story seems.


You are soo right!

10:15 pm
July 29, 2009


bec

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Tenderoni said:

Peace said:

Well you know, he did die, then they brought him back to life at the hospital according to a doctor who spoke to CNN.



That's not true.  This was discussed in another thread.  The doctor was asked IF Michael is in a coma, what would that mean.  The doctor responded that it would mean they revived him.  He was simply discussing a hypothetical situation to explain to viewers what they meant by “coma” (basically to waste time keeping people watching because they didn't really have any more info at that moment).  CNN does this all the time.


Absolutely. This is a great example of If This Then That reporting. The doctor was asked, IF MJ was said to be in full cardiac arrest and then was in a coma once he arrived at the hospital, what COULD this mean??? So then the doctor talks for 10 minutes about how, even though he has no first hand knowledge of Michael Jackson's conditionif a patient's status is elevated from arrest to coma that means the patient has been revived by paramedics at the scene and in a more stable condition, and if that is the case blah blah blah etc etc etc..


But if you missed the beginning of the doctor's 10 minute monologue about a completely hypothetical situation, you would be led to believe this doctor was talking about Michael Jackson, posibly even worked o Michael Jackson himself. It's confusing and distorting.

What do you think about that, Give.It.To.Me?

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