Michael Jackson Hoax Death

I think we can all agree on one thing here : 

– First of all, nobody here knows anything for sure. Nobody knows if he's alive, nobody knows if he's dead. We're all in that gray area. Let's stay clear-minded and level-headed. We can't let emotions take over on this one, unfortunately. I know it's hard for some people ; some people are deeply saddened since June 25th and we all have one goal : getting to the bottom of this strange story, even if the outcome is actual DEATH. We should work TOGETHER here and ignore people who willingly try to put obstacles in our way. 

OK, I've been thinking about… well, if he's alive. If he faked his death. WHY ? 

I don't see the logics behind the “TO HAVE A NORMAL LIFE” theory.

Michael Jackson is not normal. He never was. He never will. In death or in life. Michael Jackson was famous since the age of 6. Michael Jackson, even prior to his fame, was raised by Jehovah Witnesses, which is a sect, let's not forget that. Michael Jackson never lived in the world as we know it. He probably (and I'm actually sure of that) does not and would not know how to function in the world as we know it. He lived for entertaining and, despite the difficult times, despite the loneliness, despite the bumps in the roads and terrible allegations, Michael Jackson LIVED for his music and LOVED his music. He loved his job and he stated himself that he wouldn't trade it for anything in the world. He put everything into being innovative and surprising the people, getting in contact with his fans and giving back to US, audience, and the world even (countless donations made to charities etc.)

Some people brought up the Illuminati theory. Some people said that Michael Jackson and some other entertainers believed in that theory. Let me just say one thing and it ties in with human nature : people strive for power. Most of the time, if not every time, money is directly associated with power. That's what the greeds in the entertainment business aspire to obtain. That's what leeches and hanger-ons (as Lisa Marie Presley said, MJ was surrounded by vultures) want. They want you to believe that there is a dangerous higher authority out there that wants to harm you so you'll be scared. And since those people are the same that try to suck your blood to the bone and strip you off your assets – people who will wrong and harm you ; of course, that makes one scared. That makes one paranoid. They want you to believe in that “higher power” so they can present themselves as protectors, that you'll believe them and eventually suck you dry. Doesn't that remind you of something ? This is how CULTS and SECTS function. Michael Jackson was raised in the Jehovah Witness faith, remember ? Even though he did not pursue and instill those beliefs onto his children. 

Cults and sects create needs for you, and instill fear in you. Being paranoid gives them the upper hand – think of the Scientology Church for example : they'll provide you with a job, they'll provide you with care…. but you do have to pay the price. And if you try to cut off your ties with them, then all that care around you disappears. That's what leeches feed off – paranoia, fear … and of course, MONEY. And they'll present it to you as “higher, dangerous authority, something that can't be seen” because that is way scarier than plain human beings. THERE IS NOTHING OUT THERE – just people that want to harm you (and by “you”, I mean in general, Michael Jackson included)… but in the end, they're just people – they are not invincible. 

Why would Michael Jackson fake his death to be “normal” ? Michael Jackson never claimed he wanted to be normal. I've heard him say it was hard, it was lonely, he couldn't go to the store… but it always ended with something like he wouldn't change it and does not regret the way it turned out, I repeat.  

And how would faking his death lead him to a normal life ? A life of what, constant hiding and more paranoia as to being discovered or not ? A life away from his kids ? That is not a peaceful and normal life to me – it looks even worse than what he has gone through right now. Michael Jackson could live in a relative state of peace if he wanted – and he actually made that choice throughout the 2000s. We have barely heard from him in the tabs (except during the trials) and he was off in Bahrain and Ireland where there is virtually no media frenzy. It's not like he's ever going to be able to walk the streets of LA incognito, falsely dead and all. 

Unless there's a witness protection program thing going on or Michael Jackson intends to pull the world's biggest prank (it really would be a Guinness type of thing) as well as turning people against the media (that'd be proof the media is kind of all about lying) – I don't see where we are going with this, unless actual homicidal conspiracy.

Anna.K said:

OK, I've been thinking about… well, if he's alive. If he faked his death. WHY ? 

I don't see the logics behind the “TO HAVE A NORMAL LIFE” theory.

Michael Jackson is not normal. He never was. He never will. In death or in life. Michael Jackson was famous since the age of 6. Michael Jackson, even prior to his fame, was raised by Jehovah Witnesses, which is a sect, let's not forget that. Michael Jackson never lived in the world as we know it. He probably (and I'm actually sure of that) does not and would not know how to function in the world as we know it. He lived for entertaining and, despite the difficult times, despite the loneliness, despite the bumps in the roads and terrible allegations, Michael Jackson LIVED for his music and LOVED his music. He loved his job and he stated himself that he wouldn't trade it for anything in the world. He put everything into being innovative and surprising the people, getting in contact with his fans and giving back to US, audience, and the world even (countless donations made to charities etc.)

Why would Michael Jackson fake his death to be “normal” ? Michael Jackson never claimed he wanted to be normal. I've heard him say it was hard, it was lonely, he couldn't go to the store… but it always ended with something like he wouldn't change it and does not regret the way it turned out, I repeat.  

And how would faking his death lead him to a normal life ? A life of what, constant hiding and more paranoia as to being discovered or not ? A life away from his kids ? That is not a peaceful and normal life to me – it looks even worse than what he has gone through right now. Michael Jackson could live in a relative state of peace if he wanted – and he actually made that choice throughout the 2000s. We have barely heard from him in the tabs (except during the trials) and he was off in Bahrain and Ireland where there is virtually no media frenzy. It's not like he's ever going to be able to walk the streets of LA incognito, falsely dead and all. 

Unless there's a witness protection program thing going on or Michael Jackson intends to pull the world's biggest prank (it really would be a Guinness type of thing) as well as turning people against the media (that'd be proof the media is kind of all about lying) – I don't see where we are going with this, unless actual homicidal conspiracy.

It's a publicitey stunt. I think he is coming back. I do not feel he would do all of this to stay away forever. I like your post. It pretty much sums up how I feel about all of this.

Good post, but I cant help thinking that the longer this goes on the less likely it is he is coming back, the shock and awe period is slowly passing away. The time to make a come back would be now. The longer the saga goes on then I think we have to face reality that he really is dead.

Dont get me wrong I hope more than anything he comes back, I wake up every morning and rush to put the tv on to see if its on the news that hes alive.

bexuk said:

Good post, but I cant help thinking that the longer this goes on the less likely it is he is coming back, the shock and awe period is slowly passing away. The time to make a come back would be now. The longer the saga goes on then I think we have to face reality that he really is dead.

Yes, the sooner the better. If this drags on for much longer, we will (those who believe in the comeback theory ) have to accept that he has indeed passed. I still think if he does it by his birthday, there will still be the shock and awe period. I dont know about afterwards though.

I do not believe that faking your death is fraud. Only if you take money that you would not be entittled to if

you were dead.  Do you really think for a moment he could not buy his way out about anything !! I do

especially if the ones that he recieved payment from are in on it.  People fake their death alot.

A few days ago a man was found who had faked his death to get out of a 20 year jail sentence.

He was found and they just sent him to jail to serve out his 20 year jail sentence that was all.

So if for instance Michael's family recieved 1 million dollars of life insurance he comes back.

Do you think the insurance company would drop the case if he offered 2 million to make up for it.

I do.   Money is all that companies think of and looking at his life they may even have a little

sympathy for him.

Anna.K said:

I think we can all agree on one thing here : 

– First of all, nobody here knows anything for sure. Nobody knows if he's alive, nobody knows if he's dead. We're all in that gray area. Let's stay clear-minded and level-headed. We can't let emotions take over on this one, unfortunately. I know it's hard for some people ; some people are deeply saddened since June 25th and we all have one goal : getting to the bottom of this strange story, even if the outcome is actual DEATH. We should work TOGETHER here and ignore people who willingly try to put obstacles in our way. 

OK, I've been thinking about… well, if he's alive. If he faked his death. WHY ? 

I don't see the logics behind the “TO HAVE A NORMAL LIFE” theory.

Michael Jackson is not normal. He never was. He never will. In death or in life. Michael Jackson was famous since the age of 6. Michael Jackson, even prior to his fame, was raised by Jehovah Witnesses, which is a sect, let's not forget that. Michael Jackson never lived in the world as we know it. He probably (and I'm actually sure of that) does not and would not know how to function in the world as we know it. He lived for entertaining and, despite the difficult times, despite the loneliness, despite the bumps in the roads and terrible allegations, Michael Jackson LIVED for his music and LOVED his music. He loved his job and he stated himself that he wouldn't trade it for anything in the world. He put everything into being innovative and surprising the people, getting in contact with his fans and giving back to US, audience, and the world even (countless donations made to charities etc.)

Some people brought up the Illuminati theory. Some people said that Michael Jackson and some other entertainers believed in that theory. Let me just say one thing and it ties in with human nature : people strive for power. Most of the time, if not every time, money is directly associated with power. That's what the greeds in the entertainment business aspire to obtain. That's what leeches and hanger-ons (as Lisa Marie Presley said, MJ was surrounded by vultures) want. They want you to believe that there is a dangerous higher authority out there that wants to harm you so you'll be scared. And since those people are the same that try to suck your blood to the bone and strip you off your assets – people who will wrong and harm you ; of course, that makes one scared. That makes one paranoid. They want you to believe in that “higher power” so they can present themselves as protectors, that you'll believe them and eventually suck you dry. Doesn't that remind you of something ? This is how CULTS and SECTS function. Michael Jackson was raised in the Jehovah Witness faith, remember ? Even though he did not pursue and instill those beliefs onto his children. 

Cults and sects create needs for you, and instill fear in you. Being paranoid gives them the upper hand – think of the Scientology Church for example : they'll provide you with a job, they'll provide you with care…. but you do have to pay the price. And if you try to cut off your ties with them, then all that care around you disappears. That's what leeches feed off – paranoia, fear … and of course, MONEY. And they'll present it to you as “higher, dangerous authority, something that can't be seen” because that is way scarier than plain human beings. THERE IS NOTHING OUT THERE – just people that want to harm you (and by “you”, I mean in general, Michael Jackson included)… but in the end, they're just people – they are not invincible. 

Why would Michael Jackson fake his death to be “normal” ? Michael Jackson never claimed he wanted to be normal. I've heard him say it was hard, it was lonely, he couldn't go to the store… but it always ended with something like he wouldn't change it and does not regret the way it turned out, I repeat.  

And how would faking his death lead him to a normal life ? A life of what, constant hiding and more paranoia as to being discovered or not ? A life away from his kids ? That is not a peaceful and normal life to me – it looks even worse than what he has gone through right now. Michael Jackson could live in a relative state of peace if he wanted – and he actually made that choice throughout the 2000s. We have barely heard from him in the tabs (except during the trials) and he was off in Bahrain and Ireland where there is virtually no media frenzy. It's not like he's ever going to be able to walk the streets of LA incognito, falsely dead and all. 

Unless there's a witness protection program thing going on or Michael Jackson intends to pull the world's biggest prank (it really would be a Guinness type of thing) as well as turning people against the media (that'd be proof the media is kind of all about lying) – I don't see where we are going with this, unless actual homicidal conspiracy.

i am sorry but yes  he did say he wanted a normal life on many conversations and  he was  proud of his  music  but  he also was planning to get  into  the movie making  he was not goin to stay in the music buisness  much longer

i hope  you  as his fans  would  remember  this interview  and the interviews after this  and  that he wanted to live a normal life he wanted and  seeked to know what it would be like  also  he says  and talks  about all the young actors  who use and why do they hurt thier body like that  read this  info  page

http://www.rollingstone.com/ro…..emembered/

That is why I believe this is an actual murder being covered up because it's so sloppy.

if he wanted to get away he easily could have done so .

who was mj before he announced his comeback ?

a very sinking star. he already WAS hiding

fREMAIN hidden by faking a death would be much more work than simplx to enjoy his life as he did it within the last years

Post edited 6:19 am – July 21, 2009 by annonymous25

wishful09 said:

bexuk said:

Good post, but I cant help thinking that the longer this goes on the less likely it is he is coming back, the shock and awe period is slowly passing away. The time to make a come back would be now. The longer the saga goes on then I think we have to face reality that he really is dead.

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Yes, the sooner the better. If this drags on for much longer, we will (those who believe in the comeback theory ) have to accept that he has indeed passed. I still think if he does it by his birthday, there will still be the shock and awe period. I dont know about afterwards though.

Yeah, I'm staying with the hoax idea until his birthday. If nothing happens between now and then, its over for me in believing that he may still be alive. After his birthday, he may still be alive, but if he doesn't show himself to the public..obviously, he doesn't want to be found.. and then there would be a good chance that none of this was a hoax after all. In case this really isn't a hoax, I'd feel pretty bad for not believing that he actually passed away. Until then, I'm believing that he may be alive.

Well…you sound like one of those mediocre musicians who only raise hell cause the have no talent…

yeap…stephanie was the one who mentioned it…it's on Heal the world, I think it's a great idea but yes, everyone must raise funds and somebody must handle a bank account where deposits can be done…but somebody reliable..maybe through an international bank where the bank handles it entirely….we must work really hard in our communities and that forum is precisely for ideas!!! glad ur hear supermom

i am goin to atleast look into it make some calls  and find out how to start a michael jackson foudation fund raiser too achieve the goals he wanted

I love this topic about Michael's psychology and all the posts which I would agree with. Michael did say he wanted to go into film directing and out of performing though, he simply could not get out of the AEG concerts as far as I can make out without being sued to the limit which would have made him bankrupt, so a fake death would seem a good way out.

Apart from the fact that it was AEG who 'found' Conrad Murray apparently which is a bit I don't understand, as if Michael was trying to get out of the concerts with AEG the fake death and Murray conspiracy theory doesn't wash.

I do also think that Michael's mind was not as ours is, it wouldn't be would it? Genius isn't normal so we couldn't begin to really know what he thought, but I can see that the possibility of him having the 'greatest show on earth' by returning from the dead would appeal to him.