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mjfan
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Look folks, the admin's personal life is his/her business. I find it pretty disgusting that people are digging into this person's life and motivations. Yeah, I think it's weird how soon the site started and was being found/spidered by google after MJ's death. The most that could mean IMO is that admin COULD be someone in the Jackson camp.
But that doesn't mean it's true.
Even if it is… so what?
Seriously. This is a good site (aside from some emo drama throw downs, that if I were Michael Jackson and alive would make me STAY in hiding forever), and I don't want this site to disappear.
There has been an INCREDIBLE amount of drama, trolling, and paranoia here. People jumping all over each other and flaming each other if they claim to have known MJ. Sure, question people, but can we do it in a rational, sane, and semi-respectful manner?
And then there is all the paranoia about who all is “Watching us” I swear to god I think half this board needs to be on a Lithium drip. CALM DOWN. Stop freaking out about the media and the LAPD and the DEA and the FBI and etc. etc. No one is shutting us down. Now one is going to get you. You aren't harming MJ by being here, holy crap dudes. CALM DOWN.
If anyone feels they need to be circumspect or not post certain things, fine, don't. But stop getting the whole board riled up about it. Because this board is useless and stupid if the only thing we start talking about is gold pants. I mean come on now. This site is supposed to have a point. And all of us proving that we're insane really shouldn't be the point.
And finally, there has been this other flare up about the admin. PLEASE leave the admin alone. The admin has been patient and nice, but one of these days he/she might get really tired of all this crap, all the suspicion, all the judgment, and all the digging into his/her personal lives to create a conspiracy around him/her and might just shut this site down. What then?
I mean come ON. I don't want to lose this site because a few people can't control their paranoia. Or don't understand the inappropriateness of outing people's personal information on a public forum CREATED BY that person.
Please exhibit some self control. None of us is perfect, I know I'm not, but the past few days has been CRAZY here, from the daily flame-throwing public lynchings of anyone claiming to know MJ, to the paranoia over who is “watching us” and what dire thing that means, to suspicions and conspiracies about the admin.
PLEASE let's focus on what this site is about. Because I'd like this site to be around until the end when we know what the hell happened with MJ. And that's not going to happen if people keep acting like this. I don't want to be secluded on my own blog writing my own little theories down without any interaction with the other cool people from this board.
So please think about this. And consider others and the fact that some of us want to be here, and some of us want to focus on what's important here.
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12:20 am
August 4, 2009
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@mjfan – Very good post.
The whole date thing does point to Admin knowing more than she is letting on. And yes that is her private business. But from what I got out of the forum the only answer has been that it was a mistake or a glitch.
Being of a sceptical nature I'd prefer a little bit more of an explanation but that is Admin's perogative.
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12:20 am
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I have no words to say , but thank you for saying what needed to be said.
well done !
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12:23 am
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You can be as good as gold
And still people will curse your soul
You can take all the right paths, leaving mistakes to others,
And still people will taint you like they will another
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12:32 am
August 4, 2009
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SkEpTiCaL said:
@mjfan – Very good post.
The whole date thing does point to Admin knowing more than she is letting on. And yes that is her private business. But from what I got out of the forum the only answer has been that it was a mistake or a glitch.
Being of a sceptical nature I'd prefer a little bit more of an explanation but that is Admin's perogative.
Someone pointed out to me that it could have happened since there have been attempts to hack this site. It could have caused a weird glitch. Either way though, obsessing about the creator of this site is the absolute WRONG direction to go ON this site. If people want to obsess about that they need to do it somewhere else and NOT link to it from this site.
I will tell you all right now, if I was the admin, and I had some members on my board creating websites bringing ALL my personal shit out into the open and then posting links on my forum about it, I would ban their asses and delete their posts. Why? Because I had something to hide? NO, because I would NOT give someone a HUGE public forum with so many visitors where they could trash me or bring my personal shit out into MY forum. Okay? Get it, guys?
I bet most of you guys are very private people. Think about how you would feel if this were reversed and you were being treated in this way. It's appalling. Probably the admin should have registered the site with privacy enabled from the very beginning, but probably the admin never dreamed this site would grow so big so fast.
I have a feeling though that if the admin reacts in the way that I would… by deleting those posts and banning those people that advertise their website here, people will go: “Oh noes… the admin has something to hide.”
We need to get off this business about the admin and get back to the point.
There are two options with the June 23 thing. Either it IS a weird glitch, or the site was created earlier. Because whois is registered as 6-26-09 it is most likely a glitch. But it cannot be proven either way. So what is the point of hashing it out here? Even IF it was june 23rd, that would mean someone in the Jackson camp started the site. Which would support the hoax theory. I really wish people would just let the issue drop and move on to something more productive.
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12:40 am
August 4, 2009
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If all of us where a logical and calm as mjfan we probably would not be having these
problems
Kudos for an excellent post and bringing us back to the real reason we are all here.
I for one, have NOT given up. But people have been running around like chickens with their heads cut off.
And believe me, if you have ever seen a chicken running with no head, its not pretty
We all need to take a really deep breath and get back to business.
I still believe because i will LISTEN WITH MY HEART.
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There Ain’t No Place Like This Place
Anywhere Near This Place
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12:43 am
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Good call Mjfan, I feel the same way.
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12:47 am
August 4, 2009
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Post edited 5:58 pm – August 4, 2009 by Dutch
“And then there is all the paranoia about who all is “Watching us” I swear to god I think half this board needs to be on a Lithium drip. CALM DOWN.”
Couldn't agree more with this, only would like to add a little. I truly believe that for a number of people this site does more damage than good when I read their comments. Posts like “OMG, look what I found! I'm really scared now”….if these written words are really what a person would say out loud, I honestly think such a person needs professional help. Please don't let get things too much in your head, let go of the obsession and take a break (away from this site and the MJ topic as a whole) when you feel it's getting to much for you, in order to be able to think rational again. Look around in your own private life and at your own close relatives, which at all times are way more important than any internet site and Michael Jackson. And please take care of your own health. Don't say this whole thing can not affect your health….cause it definitely can….I've witnessed with my own eyes people's health taking a wrong course because of the enormous time they spent in obsession for a certain topic and the internet….
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Forgot to give a tip: Turn the negative into positive by making some MJ dedicated art, be it CGI (computer generated images) or actual pencil drawings, airbrushing, poetry, music….whatever. Reach inside and see what you can produce yourself, instead of getting headaches from all the crap coming from the TMZ site and the likes.
Just my two cents……
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12:53 am
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Post edited 5:56 pm – August 4, 2009 by MJthelegendlives
I agree except on the gold pants area…I mean there should be a place where we can talk about them! LOL just kidding, mjfan, youre absolutely right about this. Where would we go to discuss our theories, if not here? I should admit though, that all of this admin conspiracy within the hoax conspiracy is actually fun and motivates us to keep searching for more info…dont know, just my opinion.
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1:00 am
August 4, 2009
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Dutch said:
“And then there is all the paranoia about who all is “Watching us” I swear to god I think half this board needs to be on a Lithium drip. CALM DOWN.”
Couldn't agree more with this, only would like to add a little. I truly believe that for a number of people this site does more damage than good when I read their comments. Posts like “OMG, look what I found! I'm really scared now”….if these written words are really what a person would say out loud, I honestly think such a person needs professional help. Please don't let get things too much in your head, let go of the obsession and take a break (away from this site and the MJ topic as a whole) when you feel it's getting to much for you, in order to be able to think rational again. Look around in your own private life and at your own close relatives, which at all times are way more important than any internet site and Michael Jackson. And please take care of your own health. Don't say this whole thing can not affect your health….cause it definitely can….I've witnessed with my own eyes people's health taking a wrong course because of the enormous time they spent in obsession for a certain topic and the internet….
Absolutely agreed. I do genuinely worry about the people here who can't keep a rational head, who get SO emotional, whether it be super excited or super depressed. And I'm really really not trying to be mean, but I think some people might benefit from speaking to a therapist. Not because they're crazy, but because REALLY and truly some of the reactions here are very extreme. And people need to find some balance. I'm not seeing a lot of healthy balance in a lot of people.
And I also agree that for some people this site seems to do more harm than good. For me, this is an interesting puzzle to solve. Don't get me wrong, I love MJ. And I was sad when he died. And I've been in a bit of an MJ obsession for the past month. But… at the same time… i did not know MJ personally, we weren't best friends. He wasn't my father, my brother, or my lover. As a fan I will always have his music, his books, his videos, his interviews, and the new stuff that will still be released from the vault and the This Is It movie, and any other unreleased stuff they choose to release. If MJ is dead, he is in a better place, where he's finally happy and at peace.
The major sadness is for his family and friends and children. Those who knew him personally. They are the ones REALLY losing something. But MJ had a very hard life, punctuated by very high highs and very low lows. He suffered in ways a lot of people can't understand both physically and emotionally and if he's dead, for ME personally I can't be that broken up about it because I know he's in a better place, without pain and at peace. Maybe it's time for him to rest.
Now if he turns out to be alive, I'll be thrilled, I'll think it's kickass, no matter the reason for it. But if he's dead, I'm okay. I really hope that other people here can get to that place and find an emotional stability here, because emotions are ALL over the board here.
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1:01 am
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Dutch said:
Edit:
Forgot to give a tip: Turn the negative into positive by making some MJ dedicated art, be it CGI (computer generated images) or actual pencil drawings, airbrushing, poetry, music….whatever. Reach inside and see what you can produce yourself, instead of getting headaches from all the crap coming from the TMZ site and the likes.
Just my two cents……
Oh yeah, totally agreed. I had been in a writing funk and hadn't danced in ages (I do bellydance), and MJ has inspired me to get back into my creative efforts and put all that I have to put into them into them. I've still had less productive days because of all this MJ stuff, lol, but I have also had some days where I've gotten some really good creative work done and feel like I'm getting my geese in a row in that area.
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1:03 am
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MJthelegendlives said:
Post edited 5:56 pm – August 4, 2009 by MJthelegendlives
I agree except on the gold pants area…I mean there should be a place where we can talk about them! LOL just kidding, mjfan, youre absolutely right about this. Where would we go to discuss our theories, if not here? I should admit though, that all of this admin conspiracy within the hoax conspiracy is actually fun and motivates us to keep searching for more info…dont know, just my opinion.
The admin stuff may seem fun but it's important to remember the admin is a real person and if it were you, would you want people digging in your private life to try to prove you're part of a michael jackson conspiracy. Really? It's really not right. I mean this must be how Debbie Rowe felt when she suddenly was splashed all over the tabloids after living a fairly normal life. Let's not make the admin another Debbie Rowe, that's all I'm saying. Let's not be like the tabloids and dissect another person's life and take away their privacy.
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1:10 am
August 4, 2009
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mjfan said:
Look folks, the admin's personal life is his/her business. I find it pretty disgusting that people are digging into this person's life and motivations. Yeah, I think it's weird how soon the site started and was being found/spidered by google after MJ's death. The most that could mean IMO is that admin COULD be someone in the Jackson camp.
But that doesn't mean it's true.
Even if it is… so what?
Seriously. This is a good site (aside from some emo drama throw downs, that if I were Michael Jackson and alive would make me STAY in hiding forever), and I don't want this site to disappear.
There has been an INCREDIBLE amount of drama, trolling, and paranoia here. People jumping all over each other and flaming each other if they claim to have known MJ. Sure, question people, but can we do it in a rational, sane, and semi-respectful manner?
And then there is all the paranoia about who all is “Watching us” I swear to god I think half this board needs to be on a Lithium drip. CALM DOWN. Stop freaking out about the media and the LAPD and the DEA and the FBI and etc. etc. No one is shutting us down. Now one is going to get you. You aren't harming MJ by being here, holy crap dudes. CALM DOWN.
If anyone feels they need to be circumspect or not post certain things, fine, don't. But stop getting the whole board riled up about it. Because this board is useless and stupid if the only thing we start talking about is gold pants. I mean come on now. This site is supposed to have a point. And all of us proving that we're insane really shouldn't be the point.
And finally, there has been this other flare up about the admin. PLEASE leave the admin alone. The admin has been patient and nice, but one of these days he/she might get really tired of all this crap, all the suspicion, all the judgment, and all the digging into his/her personal lives to create a conspiracy around him/her and might just shut this site down. What then?
I mean come ON. I don't want to lose this site because a few people can't control their paranoia. Or don't understand the inappropriateness of outing people's personal information on a public forum CREATED BY that person.
Please exhibit some self control. None of us is perfect, I know I'm not, but the past few days has been CRAZY here, from the daily flame-throwing public lynchings of anyone claiming to know MJ, to the paranoia over who is “watching us” and what dire thing that means, to suspicions and conspiracies about the admin.
PLEASE let's focus on what this site is about. Because I'd like this site to be around until the end when we know what the hell happened with MJ. And that's not going to happen if people keep acting like this. I don't want to be secluded on my own blog writing my own little theories down without any interaction with the other cool people from this board.
So please think about this. And consider others and the fact that some of us want to be here, and some of us want to focus on what's important here.
Well said, I agree with all of your post.
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1:15 am
August 4, 2009
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mjfan said:
Look folks, the admin's personal life is his/her business. I find it pretty disgusting that people are digging into this person's life and motivations. Yeah, I think it's weird how soon the site started and was being found/spidered by google after MJ's death. The most that could mean IMO is that admin COULD be someone in the Jackson camp.
But that doesn't mean it's true.
Even if it is… so what?
Seriously. This is a good site (aside from some emo drama throw downs, that if I were Michael Jackson and alive would make me STAY in hiding forever), and I don't want this site to disappear.
There has been an INCREDIBLE amount of drama, trolling, and paranoia here. People jumping all over each other and flaming each other if they claim to have known MJ. Sure, question people, but can we do it in a rational, sane, and semi-respectful manner?
And then there is all the paranoia about who all is “Watching us” I swear to god I think half this board needs to be on a Lithium drip. CALM DOWN. Stop freaking out about the media and the LAPD and the DEA and the FBI and etc. etc. No one is shutting us down. Now one is going to get you. You aren't harming MJ by being here, holy crap dudes. CALM DOWN.
If anyone feels they need to be circumspect or not post certain things, fine, don't. But stop getting the whole board riled up about it. Because this board is useless and stupid if the only thing we start talking about is gold pants. I mean come on now. This site is supposed to have a point. And all of us proving that we're insane really shouldn't be the point.
And finally, there has been this other flare up about the admin. PLEASE leave the admin alone. The admin has been patient and nice, but one of these days he/she might get really tired of all this crap, all the suspicion, all the judgment, and all the digging into his/her personal lives to create a conspiracy around him/her and might just shut this site down. What then?
I mean come ON. I don't want to lose this site because a few people can't control their paranoia. Or don't understand the inappropriateness of outing people's personal information on a public forum CREATED BY that person.
Please exhibit some self control. None of us is perfect, I know I'm not, but the past few days has been CRAZY here, from the daily flame-throwing public lynchings of anyone claiming to know MJ, to the paranoia over who is “watching us” and what dire thing that means, to suspicions and conspiracies about the admin.
PLEASE let's focus on what this site is about. Because I'd like this site to be around until the end when we know what the hell happened with MJ. And that's not going to happen if people keep acting like this. I don't want to be secluded on my own blog writing my own little theories down without any interaction with the other cool people from this board.
So please think about this. And consider others and the fact that some of us want to be here, and some of us want to focus on what's important here.
Thank you, I agree on this 100%.
My impression is, many people are here for self-delusion.
Please, I don´t judge that – it´s legitimate – and it appears, that this makes the lifes of some on here more bearable.
But some of these people react disappointed, defiant and rude when they don´t find out what they would like to be true.
(..towards the Admin, other users, peterpans, who never claimed to be “the real thing”…)
That´s sad: on one hand for themselves, on the other hand for the rest of us, who want to have a peaceful and serious change of views here. I´m here, because I´d like to know the truth – even, if it should sadly turn out, that it´s not what I expected…..
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1:21 am
August 4, 2009
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- great post!
I definitely want to be here…I would be so upset if it closed down.
This place spooks me out sometimes I have to say….with all the talk about watching us etc etc.
anyhoo…back to work (on the investigation that is) 
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1:26 am
August 4, 2009
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answers said:
- great post!
I definitely want to be here…I would be so upset if it closed down.
This place spooks me out sometimes I have to say….with all the talk about watching us etc etc.
anyhoo…back to work (on the investigation that is)
LOL it doesn't spook me. Until someone sends me a creepy email or calls me on the phone, I'm not going to get worked up about it. 
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1:32 am
August 4, 2009
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mjfan said:
answers said:
- great post!
I definitely want to be here…I would be so upset if it closed down.
This place spooks me out sometimes I have to say….with all the talk about watching us etc etc.
anyhoo…back to work (on the investigation that is)
LOL it doesn't spook me. Until someone sends me a creepy email or calls me on the phone, I'm not going to get worked up about it.
hahaha- the only thing that is spooking me is MJ- he is hijacking my dreams 
ahh…I love this place.
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1:37 am
August 4, 2009
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Thanxs for the logical point of the real reason why we are on here ….  .
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2:03 am
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mjfan said:
Look folks, the admin's personal life is his/her business. I find it pretty disgusting that people are digging into this person's life and motivations. Yeah, I think it's weird how soon the site started and was being found/spidered by google after MJ's death. The most that could mean IMO is that admin COULD be someone in the Jackson camp.
But that doesn't mean it's true.
Even if it is… so what?
Seriously. This is a good site (aside from some emo drama throw downs, that if I were Michael Jackson and alive would make me STAY in hiding forever), and I don't want this site to disappear.
There has been an INCREDIBLE amount of drama, trolling, and paranoia here. People jumping all over each other and flaming each other if they claim to have known MJ. Sure, question people, but can we do it in a rational, sane, and semi-respectful manner?
And then there is all the paranoia about who all is “Watching us” I swear to god I think half this board needs to be on a Lithium drip. CALM DOWN. Stop freaking out about the media and the LAPD and the DEA and the FBI and etc. etc. No one is shutting us down. Now one is going to get you. You aren't harming MJ by being here, holy crap dudes. CALM DOWN.
If anyone feels they need to be circumspect or not post certain things, fine, don't. But stop getting the whole board riled up about it. Because this board is useless and stupid if the only thing we start talking about is gold pants. I mean come on now. This site is supposed to have a point. And all of us proving that we're insane really shouldn't be the point.
And finally, there has been this other flare up about the admin. PLEASE leave the admin alone. The admin has been patient and nice, but one of these days he/she might get really tired of all this crap, all the suspicion, all the judgment, and all the digging into his/her personal lives to create a conspiracy around him/her and might just shut this site down. What then?
I mean come ON. I don't want to lose this site because a few people can't control their paranoia. Or don't understand the inappropriateness of outing people's personal information on a public forum CREATED BY that person.
Please exhibit some self control. None of us is perfect, I know I'm not, but the past few days has been CRAZY here, from the daily flame-throwing public lynchings of anyone claiming to know MJ, to the paranoia over who is “watching us” and what dire thing that means, to suspicions and conspiracies about the admin.
PLEASE let's focus on what this site is about. Because I'd like this site to be around until the end when we know what the hell happened with MJ. And that's not going to happen if people keep acting like this. I don't want to be secluded on my own blog writing my own little theories down without any interaction with the other cool people from this board.
So please think about this. And consider others and the fact that some of us want to be here, and some of us want to focus on what's important here.
thanks for the good post… i agree!
let's just work hand in hand to make a better place for us…
and i still love this site…
im so thankful that i met you guys here in MJHD…
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