Michael Jackson Hoax Death

Post edited 3:37 pm – August 4, 2009 by Empathy

Empathy can I ask you a question please? sorry it's not related to MJ, I started studying the tarot a few years ago and did a few readings for people and I started having really hideous nightmares which is something i'd never had before or since I stopped, do you know if there is a reason for this? It was very strange, tarot is something I have always been interested in. At the time I spoke to a lady who read the cards and she told me I should get rid of my cards and not do it anymore but never told me why. Any ideas? Thanks for your posts by the way it's great to get such wonderful insight x

Post edited 3:38 pm – August 4, 2009 by Empathy

I think it's very true that we've forgotten how to wait; patience is a lost art. It can be re-learned though, and it can also be therapeutic I think. I'm ready and willing to wait patiently, for the next chapter! And hoping and believing that it is a peaceful time for Michael wherever he is, and not painful or sad or difficult at all for him.

BTW, was there a link just for those of us who wanted to ask you a question through the tarot, or did you mean to ask it here on the board?

Thanks again Empathy, for giving us so much helpful information.

Post edited 3:40 pm – August 4, 2009 by Empathy

Post edited 3:41 pm – August 4, 2009 by Empathy

Wow, your last post was very powerful. I could feel so many emotions while reading it. Thank you for posting it, and I do hope you don't regret it, I think it's very meaningful in so many of us. So did you say that the 02 Michael is not Michael?! Wow. Also, I think it's amazing how the two pictures match (the photo of 02 Michael and the Magician card!)

I think you are amazing and very generous to show us so much; for my part, as you suggest, after reading it, I will 'read digest and forget', but, and I hope this is okay, I'll also feel more at peace than ever before because of what I read.

Thank you so much for allowing me to ask you something; my question may be completely out of line, so fee free to disregard it if it is the wrong kind of question, I will completely understand. My question was in regards to a picture I did for Michael. A former friend of mine who worked for Michael gave it to him for me, and later I was told that he took it and put it on his night-stand; so I just wanted to ask if that was truly the case. It was over 10 years ago, but it has always meant a lot to me knowing this. However I have always had a tiny shred of doubt if my friend was telling me the truth, for reasons that I won't mention. I'm sorry it is probably a silly question and maybe not one that you can answer, but it's been something I've always wondered about.

Thank you again,

Much Love,

Mona Lisa

Post edited 3:44 pm – August 4, 2009 by Empathy

Empathyx

Empathy said:

monalisa said:

Wow, your last post was very powerful. I could feel so many emotions while reading it. Thank you for posting it, and I do hope you don't regret it, I think it's very meaningful in so many of us. So did you say that the 02 Michael is not Michael?! Wow. Also, I think it's amazing how the two pictures match (the photo of 02 Michael and the Magician card!)

I think you are amazing and very generous to show us so much; for my part, as you suggest, after reading it, I will 'read digest and forget', but, and I hope this is okay, I'll also feel more at peace than ever before because of what I read.

Thank you so much for allowing me to ask you something; my question may be completely out of line, so fee free to disregard it if it is the wrong kind of question, I will completely understand. My question was in regards to a picture I did for Michael. A former friend of mine who worked for Michael gave it to him for me, and later I was told that he took it and put it on his night-stand; so I just wanted to ask if that was truly the case. It was over 10 years ago, but it has always meant a lot to me knowing this. However I have always had a tiny shred of doubt if my friend was telling me the truth, for reasons that I won't mention. I'm sorry it is probably a silly question and maybe not one that you can answer, but it's been something I've always wondered about.

Thank you again,

Much Love,

Mona Lisa

---

Allow me some time and I will have a look at your question for you Mona Lisa. I promise to write your reply back in this thread.

Much love

Empathyx

Thank you so much Empathy

~ to nlb, that was wonderful & you have a beautiful way of expressing words. You have said what I feel; I just didn't have the ability to say it!

-thank you Mona Lisa and Empathy for your kind words. 

“We give because we want to give. I have given my readings here against part of my better judgement because I was afraid myself of whether or not some parts of it should be aired..I struggled over that – but I think now reading back over the nice posts here that it must have been something I was supposed to do.”

- Empathy I hope you continue to post your feelings and readings-IMO they do offer comfort. Where ever Michael is now, I pray that he found the peace he deserves and knows that there are people that care about his well being not just as Michael the icon, but Michael the person.

Alley-

 I wasn't sure when I wrote that post how people would take it. I am in no way disrespecting Michael. I was just stating my opinion. It was not my intention to offend anyone. I just wanted to express that people need to remember that Michael is HUMAN and the god-like status he has achieved should apply to his accomplishments, but not to who is he as a person. He is much much more than just an entertainer. I think he would want to remembered for more than just his extreme ability to be the greatest entertainer. Again, I meant no offense and sorry if that is how you took what I wrote in a past post and in this one. I came here also looking for answers and was only expressing MY opinion.

Post edited 3:46 pm – August 4, 2009 by Empathy

Empathy said:

Hello all, I have promised to write to one or two of you and I will do this. I am looking through the posts that I said I would look through writings from earlier on. I wrote Tarot on 16 March and again in June 27 and then I could,nt write anything for a few days. My writings began again a few days further in July. Here is some of the ICHING postings. I still need to upload all this on my forum but have got caught up but will post them there.

Meanwhile here were some of my findings. I am no expert with Iching but I think I understand mostly what is said to me. Generally TAROT is my first tool but I try sometimes to back it up or confirm with another divination just thought I would explain that to you. The following information is taken from my hidden thoughts on my forum. My comments on each are in BLUE.

CHING M
« Thread Started on Jul 14, 2009, 0:53 »

why did you 'die' michael

GEMINI 17
THE HEAD OF A ROBUST YOUTH CHANGES INTO THAT OF A MATURE THINKER

There is only so much that one can do with youthful force. It is time to use mature thinking, using your intellect and intuition. Allow wisdom to come through. There can be a feeling of one's mindset changing and growing. Responsibilities are to be taken on board. Time to stop `tearing around' and to be more serious about life and its ramifications.

Going from reacting with the lower emotional nature to thinking with the higher mind. Pondering. Thinking things through. Finding answers. A state of stillness.

The Caution: Suddenly becoming very old and losing innocence and energy OR clinging to the illusions of childhood.

Here we have an Iching – Gemini 17 – Mercury Rules GEMINI – Gemini the twins Michael surely tells us quite plainly in this Iching the realism that he felt. Michael was getting older – he could never be what he was – he was under no illusions and though the creative spirit and energy is always there for those who are gifted Michael was settling down. He was settled in his mind about who he was and what he wanted – he could not produce the person who everyone wanted to see – he was older – it is quite simple in itself. He did not want to delude anybody – he did not aim to do so but he has always wanted to please. His new concerts would have had body doubles who would have taken the lions share of performance – Michael used them and its not an insight because we all know that – but here is a heartfelt message – MICHAEL JACKSON KING OF POP – ie., music 'died' – he could not produce that man, that image so many wished from him. It was his time to step down – this man needed answers, he pondered, he wondered – he wanted to be everything people wanted him to be – but he knew that was not possible.

were you murdered?

AQUARIUS 26
A GARAGE MAN TESTING A CAR'S BATTERY WITH A HYDROMETER

You may need to use some type of gauge on your emotional reactions. There is a need to take a more objective or inventive view that is more relative to modern society. Figure out any malfunctions so your life can proceed in a smoother, more efficient manner. Performing the necessary checks and balances are part of the everyday maintenance of society.

Testing our earthly vehicle for its roadworthiness. Breakdowns and the need for repair. The need for good batteries or to have them charged up. Oil, petrol, grease. Finding out what's wrong.

The Caution: Causing distress by constantly analyzing things. Bad health through lack of water or looking after one's self.

I asked this question as a series of questions all dated as the date above. This is his answer. You may read that answer here. I dont need to say anything.

did you die of natural causes

GEMINI 5
A RADICAL MAGAZINE OR PUBLICATION, ASKING FOR ACTION, DISPLAYS A SENSATIONAL FRONT PAGE

You are being motivated for change and, although you may not be absolutely sure which direction you will take, you are listening to messages that are around you. Look further within for the change in direction you need. Dramatizing one's situation can lead to overreaction, but doing nothing can lead to inertia.

The need for reform. Challenging outlooks. Breaking out of constraints. Messages and news that awakes. Revolutions. Social or emotional causes. Printing presses. Publishing. Big announcements.

The Caution: Being argumentative, noisy, disruptive. Demanding change. Selfish agendas. Misinformation and disinformation.

Again, I need say nothing here. But as always Michael reminds you about the press, information/disinformation – you are asked to use your own logic here.

PISCES 11
PEOPLE TRAVELING A NARROW PATH, SEEKING ILLUMINATION

Sometimes the search for high ideals and understandings place us at odds with conservative social expectations. It is the ability to persevere with the search, regardless of the cost, that marks the sincerity of any path or journey. Most times this quest is very illuminating, although sometimes it's confusing. You will need to reject that which is unworthy.

People 'on the path'. Having a cause to follow. The promise of light at the end of the day. Sticking with one's objective. Being in the now. Going towards the light.

The Caution: Being blinded by the light. Not knowing where you're really going. Denial of physical pleasure. Being puritanical and one-eyed

A very informative Iching above. People only believe what is TANGIBLE. When something is not TANGIBLE they do not believe. When you seek answers about Michael – you dont need proof of what is in your heart.

VIRGO 3
TWO GUARDIAN ANGELS BRINGING PROTECTION

There is a strong sense that you are protected, guided and directed and therefore you will find the true path that you must follow. Feeling good about your direction, and to be protected by this feeling, builds your inner strength. You are never alone when you draw this Symbol, always being looked after in times of stress or indecision.

Connection with one's own sense of inner guidance. Invisible protection. Salvation.

The Caution: Feeling lost and alone. Expecting that someone else will always pick up the piece

The message above VIRGO 3 was a direct message to me. I was confused and yes lonely because of messages I received and did not know what to do…whether to write them down – read them – forget them – feeling that perhaps someone else would put out the messages that were here that I had written down but I did,nt know what to do I could not decide whether I was doing wrong or right. I was told I was protected with the messages and Michael is a virgo as you know. Michael would have known about this indecision. I print this because it was a genuine message to me when I asked whether I was doing the right thing. This is all part of the stream of messages I received on the date printed above.

CAPRICORN 19
A CHILD OF ABOUT FIVE CARRYING A HUGE SHOPPING BAG FILLED WITH GROCERIES

You may feel that you have been lumbered with responsibilities beyond your normal expectations and possibly beyond your capability. Despite being keen and enthusiastic, you must be careful not to try to do too much (in the situation), too quickly. You need to play, be creative and rest as well. If you can find this balance, you will achieve a lot.

Growing up too fast. Being weighed down with the responsibilities of the situation. Taking on things above and beyond what one should.

The Caution: Overloading the innocent and the inexperienced without thought to the consequences. Taking on too much.

From the same date same thread – Michael describing himself and his situation and how he felt. I dont need to say anything with this ICHING either. We all know what it says to us.

neverland?

VIRGO 4
BLACK AND WHITE CHILDREN PLAYING HAPPILY TOGETHER

Your situation may have a lot of seemingly different and separate elements, but that is only an illusion of social perception. Social perceptions sometimes get in the way of how we see others. These need to be put aside, it's time for brotherhood and caring. In reality it is the integration and acceptance of all people (and enjoying them) that the situation will be resolved and move forward.

Universal brotherhood. Overcoming prejudices and boundaries.

The Caution: Acting with morality that is swayed by public opinion. Not being able to adjust psychologically to situations that require creative responses. Racial prejudice.

The Iching above refers directly to Neverland. It is an absolute positive reaction about social perception its another VIRGO answer and it was meticulously given – strongly given out and these words do not need explanation they tell you categorically exactly how Michael felt about children and what people should do and the fact that he acted with MORALITY but was a subject of racism. Yes. Thats right thats what he has said and its here in this Iching above. This man was a victim.

DO YOU HAVE A MESSAGE FOR ANYONE

SAGITTARIUS 17
AN EASTER SUNRISE SERVICE DRAWS A LARGE CROWD

This is a time of spiritual rebirth where you can rise above the failings of the past into a new beginning. Coming out of doubt and despair can lead to a new sense of love, faith and compassion. Join with others in a spirit of joy. There's a need for unwavering faith in communal spiritual values.

Performing any deeds with reverence. Cohesive communal expressions of faith. Peace rallies. Revivals. The need for faith in a bright future. Devotion. Worship.

The Caution: Obsession with the ceremony rather than the purpose or ideal. Feeling unable to lift one's spirits.

Looking at the caution – Michael KNOWS that people TALK and dont DO – please read these words from him – he wants people to pull together for a bright future – he knows he has said a lot in the past and he wants to feel that people are listening – thats his message.

I have a lot more postings and again reading them I dont think some are suitable at this time but I will post them eventually. I will also look at tarot again. There are other postings to put here shortly. I hope some of these have helped so far.

Empathyx

Interesting stuff-I just connected with you via blogger so I can bookmark you.Not sure I get all of it just yet.Off topic, but I have to say he looks damm hot with those glasses on:)

Empathy said:

monalisa said:

Wow, your last post was very powerful. I could feel so many emotions while reading it. Thank you for posting it, and I do hope you don't regret it, I think it's very meaningful in so many of us. So did you say that the 02 Michael is not Michael?! Wow. Also, I think it's amazing how the two pictures match (the photo of 02 Michael and the Magician card!)

I think you are amazing and very generous to show us so much; for my part, as you suggest, after reading it, I will 'read digest and forget', but, and I hope this is okay, I'll also feel more at peace than ever before because of what I read.

Thank you so much for allowing me to ask you something; my question may be completely out of line, so fee free to disregard it if it is the wrong kind of question, I will completely understand. My question was in regards to a picture I did for Michael. A former friend of mine who worked for Michael gave it to him for me, and later I was told that he took it and put it on his night-stand; so I just wanted to ask if that was truly the case. It was over 10 years ago, but it has always meant a lot to me knowing this. However I have always had a tiny shred of doubt if my friend was telling me the truth, for reasons that I won't mention. I'm sorry it is probably a silly question and maybe not one that you can answer, but it's been something I've always wondered about.

Thank you again,

Much Love,

Mona Lisa

---

Mona Lisa, tarot speaks in forked tongue but you might know that because it tells us what it wants us to know. You asked if a picture of yours was given to  Michael and put on his nightstand. Tarot gives a picture of someone lying on their bed. Its the only card they can describe the nightstand I feel – if you sent a picture via your friend I think it was put in or near the window. The window is very strong here and shows people looking in. I feel that the window is the picture and if it was anywhere it was on the window ledge – that is the feeling I have from this card which also draws a truce. In other words yes but no because it might be in a different place to what you were told but still in the vicinity of where Michael was.  I also see from this card another silent message from Michael – he tells us he is resting – thats not a tomb on there thats a person who is recouperating – so wherever he was resting is where the picture was at. The card comes with Kindness grace and love and also gives you the Number 4 which is supposed to jog a memory with you over something. The picture had a lot of colour in it – I think – and that is what made it so attractive. But you are being asked to keep in your mind your view of things because that is what matters but the card shows your kindness and your love and reflects this back to you .

I hope this is right for you.

Empathyxx

Thank you so much, that is very sweet! I'm sure my picture is long gone by now, but at the time it was given, I do believe it was appreciated and enjoyed, which means so much to me, because that was my intent. It was so thoughtful of you to take the time to do this for me.

I love reading your writings, it's very comforting and enlightening.  I'll be letting it all soak in more while I'm gone at work.

Blessings,

Love & Hugs

Mona Lisa

Post edited 3:47 pm – August 4, 2009 by Empathy