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TMZ: Dr. Murray to Cops: I Gave Jackson Propofol

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9:31 pm
July 27, 2009


SeeingClues

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Dr. Murray to Cops: I Gave Jackson Propofol

We've told you since July 15 police believe Dr. Conrad Murray administered Propofol to Michael Jackson — the drug that killed him. There's a reason police believe it. Dr. Murray told them.

Two days after Jackson's death, Dr. Murray told LAPD detectives he administered Propofol to the singer hours before he died … this, according to multiple law enforcement sources.

We're told Dr. Murray gave Jackson an IV drip of the powerful anesthesia. Police believe Dr. Murray simply wasn't paying attention when the singer's heart stopped beating.

Authorities believe Dr. Murray may have actually fallen asleep during the time the drug was administered and may have awakened to find Jackson already dead from heart failure.

An IV drip of Propofol allows a constant, steady infusion of the drug for a period of time determined by the person administering it.

It is considered reckless in the medical community for a doctor to administer an IV drip of Propofol without the patient being monitored by an EKG, which sounds an alarm when the patient's pulse drops too low. No EKG was found in the house.

Another device — known as a pulse oximeter — is used to determine the oxygen saturation in the patient's blood. If the patient's breathing slows to a dangerous level, an alarm alerts the treating physician. Again, no oximeter was found in the house.

9:35 pm
July 27, 2009


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SeeingClues said:

Dr. Murray to Cops: I Gave Jackson Propofol

We've told you since July 15 police believe Dr. Conrad Murray administered Propofol to Michael Jackson — the drug that killed him. There's a reason police believe it. Dr. Murray told them.

Two days after Jackson's death, Dr. Murray told LAPD detectives he administered Propofol to the singer hours before he died … this, according to multiple law enforcement sources.

We're told Dr. Murray gave Jackson an IV drip of the powerful anesthesia. Police believe Dr. Murray simply wasn't paying attention when the singer's heart stopped beating.

Authorities believe Dr. Murray may have actually fallen asleep during the time the drug was administered and may have awakened to find Jackson already dead from heart failure.

An IV drip of Propofol allows a constant, steady infusion of the drug for a period of time determined by the person administering it.

It is considered reckless in the medical community for a doctor to administer an IV drip of Propofol without the patient being monitored by an EKG, which sounds an alarm when the patient's pulse drops too low. No EKG was found in the house.

Another device — known as a pulse oximeter — is used to determine the oxygen saturation in the patient's blood. If the patient's breathing slows to a dangerous level, an alarm alerts the treating physician. Again, no oximeter was found in the house.


BULLSHIT


9:36 pm
July 27, 2009


Give.In.To.Me

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WTF is going on..as if he would rat himself out!!! What next…is he going to demand jail time??

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9:39 pm
July 27, 2009


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Give.In.To.Me said:

WTF is going on..as if he would rat himself out!!! What next…is he going to demand jail time??


LMFAO

9:40 pm
July 27, 2009


Kurious

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WH?  

Two days after Jackson's death, Dr. Murray told LAPD detectives he administered Propofol to the singer hours before he died … this, according to multiple law enforcement sources.

I think the more we see stuff going up on the TMZ website to likes of above, the more infuriated we become.  I personally think, TMZ are keeping tabs on this website.  They seem to pop up with things to keep the theories alive.  the again, those of us who have read the Illuminus website, it claims that the Dr. will be charged!!!!

9:41 pm
July 27, 2009


BelieverAngel90

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Dr. Murray admitting The Overdose ??? Whatever …. he wouldn't do it … too much of a coward ….

“Michael … I understand … I am sad I never got to talk to you … like a normal person.” *Sweet Sweet Earth Angel A.K.A. Michael*

9:43 pm
July 27, 2009


MyBelovedMJ

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Kurious said:

WH?  

Two days after Jackson's death, Dr. Murray told LAPD detectives he administered Propofol to the singer hours before he died … this, according to multiple law enforcement sources.

I think the more we see stuff going up on the TMZ website to likes of above, the more infuriated we become.  I personally think, TMZ are keeping tabs on this website.  They seem to pop up with things to keep the theories alive.  the again, those of us who have read the Illuminus website, it claims that the Dr. will be charged!!!!


I dont belive that.


Will be charged??? EHHH WTF Why havent he been charged yet, if they are so sure that he did it??


You know why.

They have NO  proof what so ever. Hell the man had a whole month to destroy evidence. The police screwed this one up. Not the Doc. BTW I dont belive that Michael is dead.


9:45 pm
July 27, 2009


mysticallymagestically

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Right, if he confessed this weeks ago and it's been a month since the incident, why haven't the authorities arrested him right away? I don't get this at all, there has to be some doubt because the reason why his office was raided was because the investigators needed some kind of evidence, it can't be this simple, can it?

9:48 pm
July 27, 2009


MyBelovedMJ

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mysticallymagestically said:

Right, if he confessed this weeks ago and it's been a month since the incident, why haven't the authorities arrested him right away? I don't get this at all, there has to be some doubt because the reason why his office was raided was because the investigators needed some kind of evidence, it can't be this simple, can it?


Yes it can

but they will not find it, i dont believe that LOL

WTF ARE THE POLICE DOING


9:48 pm
July 27, 2009


badkolo

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Post edited 2:52 pm – July 28, 2009 by badkolo


ok lets say this is true, why isnt he arrested and behind bars, cmon get real


if that was to happen in real life someone would have been arrested, uyeah i gave my client a drug i shouldnt have and dont have any of the equipment needed to administer this drug and i fell asleep , ok are we good now, great, by the way im not licensed to do what i did either, great, im off to vacation for a month , talk to my lawyer if ya need me peace im out.


cmon, any of us would be behind bars getting beaten in the head for killing michael by inmates

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9:52 pm
July 27, 2009


Kurious

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@MyBelovedMJ….I know I know.  They have made a shambles of the whole thing.  How convenient they happen to stuff up THIS investigation.  Why?  so when the time comes and the public asks..”whay are they not charging anyone?”, they can turn around and list their mistakes, prepared to have egg on their faces.  So to speak.  I'm not from LA or America, so I am not sure if this a common?  Maybe those who are in the area can advise us.  

Hey LA peoples…..do the LAPD usually stuff up investigations from the first dot?  Maybe this should be on another thread……

9:53 pm
July 27, 2009


Give.In.To.Me

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Post edited 2:55 pm – July 28, 2009 by Give.In.To.Me


and another thing, if on july 27th  he admitted to giving MJ a substance only allowed in hospitals(totally illegle to have on the street)…why did they wait 25 days to raid his office? Did LAPD drag their feet because not everybody was finished their doughnut!

Can you feel it.. Can you feel it… CAN YOU FEEL IT

9:54 pm
July 27, 2009


badkolo

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yes they do,  most citys have screwed up police departments, but they sure know how to right you a ticket, that they can do 100% perfectly, handling a possible murder case, well no so good at.

TMZ-Michael had a 3 foot tail sources claim

9:56 pm
July 27, 2009


badkolo

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if i get pulle dover and they think i might have smoked a joint they check my car as if there is a billion dollars in it with thier name on it,


but michael dies and they see tanks and iv things and a doctor and they sure know the drug stories and again its michael jackson, and they do nothing, take a few nitnacks and come back 2 weeks later for eveidence they never found in the first place, and then there is even more drugs they found thanks to dr con murray.

cmon, no seriously cmon.

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9:57 pm
July 27, 2009


MyBelovedMJ

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badkolo said:

yes they do,  most citys have screwed up police departments, but they sure know how to right you a ticket, that they can do 100% perfectly, handling a possible murder case, well no so good at.


LMAO about the ticket part

9:57 pm
July 27, 2009


wishful09

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I proomised myself I would accept Michael's death, but I read this information on TMZ and wanted to shout at the screen. There is no reason they should have waited that long to seacrh his office or arrest him for that matter (which still has not been done) if he admitted to given him the drug in his home. This is just too much for me to sit and watch and not be able to physically go down to L.A. and do something. I still am battling with the fact that this may be murder, which hurts my heart. If this is a case of murder, there will be no justice. Everything is too sloppy. I really hope this is a hoax. I tried to come to peace but things keep happening that do not make sense.

9:59 pm
July 27, 2009


Kurious

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badkolo said:

yes they do,  most citys have screwed up police departments, but they sure know how to right you a ticket, that they can do 100% perfectly, handling a possible murder case, well no so good at.


un-bloody-believable!!!!  If this is a legit case, man someone form the LAPD will need to pay, cause I know if this isn't a hoax I am sure the family is goona wanna see someone in jail for this.  Then again, its all looking like part of the plan.  This will take sooooo much time, people will lose interest and forget about it.  The non- MJ fans that is.  Not many of those though

10:02 pm
July 27, 2009


Kurious

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Come on, why is nobody asking question on this?  Why is everyone accepting that just because its the LAPD, they know what they are doing?  If it was someone else…like your neighbour.  It would have hit the news stands the very next day.  See what the colour of money does……………………………….

10:04 pm
July 27, 2009


MyBelovedMJ

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Kurious said:

badkolo said:

yes they do,  most citys have screwed up police departments, but they sure know how to right you a ticket, that they can do 100% perfectly, handling a possible murder case, well no so good at.


un-bloody-believable!!!!  If this is a legit case, man someone form the LAPD will need to pay, cause I know if this isn't a hoax I am sure the family is goona wanna see someone in jail for this.  Then again, its all looking like part of the plan.  This will take sooooo much time, people will lose interest and forget about it.  The non- MJ fans that is.  Not many of those though


No the true MJ fans, we will keep on going.

10:04 pm
July 27, 2009


GermanLady

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this is just written by Someone who gots great phantasy .. if murrey would have told that to the police they wouldtnt raid him a month later, they would have done it immediately or if they would have needet a license to raid meybe just 1,2 or 3 days later. I mean HELLO ? He didnt have the medical license to give propofol, just because of this he would be arrestet, or not ?

10:17 pm
July 27, 2009


mysticallymagestically

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Anybody else getting tired of TMZ being the primary source for all the so called up-to-date information? It's a bit disgusting to imagine a team of TMZ reporters harassing and sneaking around to get whatever they can get their hands and retrieving soundbites from anyone who wants a buck. When will the real journalists report this then? And what will they give as a reason for the delay in prosecution?

10:20 pm
July 27, 2009


badkolo

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..estigation

read that now, some crazy stuff in it, 2 years on propofol, tanks and iv everywhere, rooms a full mess, notes on walls everywhere. cmon seriously.cmon

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10:22 pm
July 27, 2009


Give.In.To.Me

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mysticallymagestically said:

Anybody else getting tired of TMZ being the primary source for all the so called up-to-date information? It's a bit disgusting to imagine a team of TMZ reporters harassing and sneaking around to get whatever they can get their hands and retrieving soundbites from anyone who wants a buck. When will the real journalists report this then? And what will they give as a reason for the delay in prosecution?


NO body

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10:29 pm
July 27, 2009


tj

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This sounds weird..according to news reports, the doc lawyered up immediately after the supposed death, even before being questioned by police..what lawywe would let his client spill unless he figured his bases were covered. Who knows what drugs could be injected into someone who has been put “under”..Suppose while under, he was given a “lethal” dose of another narcotic, let's say demerol..the tox screen would show that if it was a large enough amount it would be either considered the 'cause of death”, or i would think create doubt as to the cause..thus no murder conviction..with all the alleged past and present drug use, per all the claims, it would not be considered suspicious, could be explained away as michael having injected himself/self medicating. The doc is free and clear if the diprovan cannot be proven the “cause of death”..yes..he will be in deep doodoo for administering the diprovan in the manner he did, but I doubt it would result in any serious “time”, maybe a simple license suspension..but then again, if he got paid well enough, it might be worth it for him, after all, by all news accounts, his practices were not faring well..

10:36 pm
July 27, 2009


badkolo

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rumor is no contract signed for dr murray and he hasnt been paid yet.

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10:44 pm
July 27, 2009


mysticallymagestically

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Give.In.To.Me said:

mysticallymagestically said:

Anybody else getting tired of TMZ being the primary source for all the so called up-to-date information? It's a bit disgusting to imagine a team of TMZ reporters harassing and sneaking around to get whatever they can get their hands and retrieving soundbites from anyone who wants a buck. When will the real journalists report this then? And what will they give as a reason for the delay in prosecution?


NO body


HAHA. You know it.

But the AP report that the above user provided only gave the excuse that the 'source' was an official who was saying the doctor administered the propofol to Mike off the record aka anonymously because the “investigation is ongoing” and probably because toxicology reports are not released yet. Which is probably why there's any delay…

yet again.


Oh, but the article mentioned twice that the use of propofol in the house would be considered malpractice.


Oh, but wait, is this report even true because now Murray's lawyer says: the doctor “didn't prescribe or administer anything that should have killed Michael Jackson.” When asked Monday about the law enforcement official's statements he said: “We will not be commenting on rumors, innuendo or unnamed sources.”

Also, the doc “was staying with Jackson in the Los Angeles mansion” and ” “happened to find” an unconscious Jackson in the pop star's bedroom the morning of June 25.” He ” tried to revive him by compressing his chest with one hand while supporting Jackson's back with the other.”

“It's unclear how long it took for someone at Jackson's home to summon paramedics, though Murray's own lawyers have said it was up to a half-hour (?). Paramedics arrived about three minutes after they were called and tried to revive the music superstar for another 42 minutes (Why?) before sliding him into the ambulance and racing with lights flashing and siren blaring (OH REALLY?) to UCLA Medical Center, where Jackson was pronounced dead.” <—-WHAT ABOUT THE COMA?

10:44 pm
July 27, 2009


pinkrose35

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He told them two days after Michael “died” and something is just now being done about it? What a crock of crap!!!!  He's a big fat liar. If I remember correctly this is the THIRD story he has told.  First he said he didn't give him anything then he said he gave him Demerol now he gave Propofol? What a dumbass!!! Besides that I don't trust anything TMZ says!

10:54 pm
July 27, 2009


badkolo

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but its not just tmz saying this.


ap one also says he was doing diprivan for 2 years.well, how,how was he functioned after he woke up from that, it takes a few hours to come out of diprivan. It also leaves the blood fast so how would they see it in his blood in high amounts if all it is , is dr con falling alseep, if he fell asleep and mike died cause he wasnt awoken then it wouldnt be a diprivan overdose, and if thats the case not much would show in the report.


Also 2 years using diprivan to sleep and he was on it for all 8 hours of sleep, cmon, he didnt have a doctor for 2 years straight so how was it 2 years, was michael doing diprivan on his own, NO impossible.

ALSO 2 years using this to sleep, cmon. its not a real sleep, u wouldnt be healthy cause your not really sleeping. its very dangerous and why would mike risk his life with something this dangerous. his kids are floating aorund the house and hes in a room upstairs being doped out to sleep, u need diprtivamn the whole time your under. NO F'ing way man. no way

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10:54 pm
July 27, 2009


badkolo

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Post edited 4:07 pm – July 28, 2009 by badkolo


why hasnt he been arrrested i fhe admitted to administering a drug that shouldnt be used out of a hospital and without the proper licence to do so. isnt that illegal so why isnt he arrested. you get arrested for a joint but this guy gets to go on vacation for  amonth

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10:58 pm
July 27, 2009


badkolo

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Post edited 4:02 pm – July 28, 2009 by badkolo


wouldnt any intelligent minded person especially a doctor who is handling the biggest icon in the world know all abou t this and how dangerous this is, and wouldnt this person tell mike yo you cant be doing this, whats the issue , you cant sleep ok this other thing can help and lets try that cause this is dangerous and isnt used for sleep ever.


IT DOES not make any sence at all.


lets say all this happened, then most likely he was dead for at minimum 1 hour, plus the 30 or so minutes with dr CON, then time for ambulance to arrive and start, which was another 45 minutes, then to get him to hospital, then they worked on him for an hour and then his family came and spent time and so another hour or 2.


So we are talking 5 hours minimum beofre testing.

if he was diprivan to sleep and no one woke him up then its not an overdose, he also wouldnt have such a huge amount in his system, and diprivan wouldnt be found in his blood at any high levels, so something isnt right here.

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