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The strange circumstances that took place around MJ’s Death

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9:06 pm
July 12, 2009


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1. First of all there is that 911 call. The caller isn’t upset. And Dr.Murray, a cardiologist is a person who must know how to do CPR. So why was he doing CPR on the bed and waited a half hour to call 911? I can’t imagine that if you walk into a room and you see someone lying there that isn’t breathing that you’re going to do CPR for 30 minutes and than say. “oh well it doesn’t work , now I call 911.” It would be more like calling 911 and in the meanwhile you do CPR. He is a doctor, so he must have seen it was urgent and he must know how to do CPR.

2. The one responding to the call doesn’t ask of MJ has a pulse. That is a standard question.

3. The doctor dissappears for about 30 hours. Where did he go??

4. We have only see 1 picture of MJ. How did they take it? Like in the article on this site also that question.

5. Why was the Jackson Family allowed into Michael's home before the Police? What is there to say that they didn't remove/plant evidence during this little visit?

6. Then you have the memorial. No public viewing or open casket. The reason they gave for this was because MJ’s face was very damaged by the attempts to save his live. How could you damage a face by doing CPR or giving oxygen?

7. They embalmed his body. So why are they waiting to bury him?

8. Then there is the rumor that he was cremated before the memorial and that there was an urn inside the casket. Why even use a casket then? They could have simply shown the urn.

11:30 pm
July 12, 2009


amylou202

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Soon it will be 3 weeks since he supposedly died…why haven't they decided where to bury him yet? Is there a possibility that he is still in a coma in the hospital and they were just expecting that he would die, so have all acted like he is already dead?

11:31 pm
July 12, 2009


Arual1979

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I posted this in one of hte other areas of the site, but just thought I'd post it here too.  I thought it was strange that Foxnews reported that MJ was joking around with his son, when he collapsed…. in the living room.  The doctor then moved him to the bedroom.  The bedroom was where he did CPR. That doesn't make sense to me.  At the most, I would think he would move him to a couch in the living room….why take him all the way to the bedroom????  It doesn't make sense.  Here's the link…


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0…..21,00.html

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12:08 am
July 13, 2009


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Post edited 5:26 pm – July 13, 2009 by ejay5131



Then they said that MJ was in the Doctors bedroom when he was found. So let me get this straight..the Doctor has a bedroom of his own at a house that he DOESN'T KNOW THE ADDRESS OF???

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1:05 am
July 13, 2009


mjlives

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the doctor definitely knows something he isn't telling, why else would he disappear for hours after michael 'died' and why would they lie saying mike died in his bedroom first if in fact he died in the doctor's room? why didn't the doc call 911 straight away when he realized CPR wasn't working why wait 1/2 hour which is an insane amount of time to wait if the person is indeed having a cardiac arrest which anyone would know especially a cardiologist!!


also i read somewhere prince was in the room when michael collapsed, so how come no one is asking him what happened he isn't that young he's 12 years old old enough to know what he saw


something strange is going on no doubt maybe mike is alive maybe not but facts are being obscured and there must be a reason why

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1:40 am
July 13, 2009


TheTruthSeeker

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I was just wondering, Oprah and some of Michael's close friends haven't said anything about Michael's 'death', it's very strange, but if they really want to make the story more believable, wouldn't they just make an announment or say

anything instead of remaining silence?

Don't get me wrong, I do think everything doesn't add up since the day Michael was pronounced 'dead', the memorial, the family etc. I just have a feeling that whether Michael is dead or alive (which I believe he's still alive somewhere),

something really nasty is going on there.

1:51 am
July 13, 2009


sita

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starting a phone call saying: “Uh, sir, we have a gentleman here that needs help and he’s not breathing. He’s not breathing and we’re trying to pump him…”


question: michael jackson lying somewhere on a bed or ground and starting a phone call, telling a gentlemen is lying there.


does this make sense??

dont forget: LOOK WITH YOUR HEART

1:53 am
July 13, 2009


YOY

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They probably thought the memorial about be a closure for the public and it would end there, instead it raises even more controversy. I also read that the reason it took so long to call 911 was because Michaels room didnt have a phone because he would be scared people would tap into his phone, but now if he was in the doctors room… wouldnt there be a phone in there and wouldnt need to rush to get someone else to call?

1:58 am
July 13, 2009


SkylinexBleedsxRed

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Or better yet, Find someone who had a cell phone, Like the man who placed the 911 call. Of all the rooms in that house, You're telling me there is no possible sight of a telephone? I think not.

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2:10 am
July 13, 2009


Sosh

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No matter what room he was in and if a phone was present or not, Michael always had lots of people around him. At the time of day he died, there should have been lots of people (Cook, Laundry, housekeeping, gardener, guards etc) available in and outside the house.


How is it possible that the doctor was unable to call someone for half an hour to make a phone call? Maybe cell phones were prohibited, so it was more difficult, but come-on… Was all other personel send away for a short break? If so, what a coincedince that Michael just got a cardiac arrest ath that moment.

2:12 am
July 13, 2009


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Post edited 7:16 pm – July 13, 2009 by perfumeflower


Hiya everyone,  I have just noticed this new forum and I must say that I like this new way of interacting with other members on here…


One thing that has always baffled me..we were led to believe in the media that Michael 'collapsed',so why then is it that his personal doctor said he ' happened to stumble in on Michael's bedroom and found him lying in his bed not breathing? This really does not make sense. the question is..if Michael did 'collapse?',who moved him? was that the right thing to do? Too many questions about this and not enough answers.


Also,while I watched the 'memorial' I cried bucket loads of tears, and yet I am not related to Michael. How is it possible that his own family didn't show any kind of emotion? his father and his eldest son were vigorously chewing gum, his daughter played around with her handbag. All the families faces were emotionless. It seemed to me that it was just a farce and a bungled effort to make us believe what they want us to believe. Disgraceful.

2:29 am
July 13, 2009


dezyte

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Ok the thing is that i do believe that doctor is a part of a HOAX of MJ death anyway he was all in debts and he got payed really well.The thing is that . Apparently the doctor isn’t cooperating with authorities now – after already being in two interviews with them.Coz he is scared as the things not going as been planed.So im kinda believe that to save his own ass he may come up with another lie or just disclose what he knows.I just bought morning paper the front page states JACKO IS A GAY.Well tahts really interesting i mean yeahh i do agree he looked and behaved weird but everything is based on two idiots 1 of the wannabe actor and another waiter as now MJ is 'gone' they have a chance to promote their selves!!the tabloids sayin MICHAEL Jackson had a string of gay lovers who he seduced by saying: “The King of Pop is going to lick your lollipop”, that's disgusting!!!!What about his father he already planing a world tour for the kids in 2010!!thats crazy!!!!!Even if it would be a murder of MJ death then the same La Toya and the father him self can be suspects!!Whats really weird is that how La Toya can know how much money MJ had and where he kept and how much exactly been stolen!!It makes no sense!!!Except he told her from beyond the grave that 2 millions are missing I don't know nothing makes sense anymore it's such a mess!!!!!

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2:43 am
July 13, 2009


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As was said, there must have been numerous people around the house, why didn't anyone take the initiative and call the paramedics straingth away. If it were your nearest and dearest you would. Perhaps they were hoping to revive him without the world finding out, and when it got out of control then they had to put their hands up and call 911. If the life of that person were paramount, then you'd risk the ridicule and make the call, you can tell the press any old thing, and eventually it would all die down.


2:51 am
July 13, 2009


dezyte

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What im really surprised about is that why nowhere no one considers possibility that he is not dead!!!All over the news papaers is that he just had cardiac arrest,then he was drug addict now that he been murdered……but nowhere discussin the thing that maybe he is still alive!!There are so little evidence that he died and so many that he is still alive.Soon i will go my self to US and will do investigation  All of this looks such a mess….Everyday more and more news more and more ppl coming up to tell their stories.Now it seems all of them been good friends with MJ all of them been close  even La Toya counting her self as closest sibling to MJ….

Guys does anyone of you ever considered that MJ might be dead for sure?????? and that we digging here smg that we want to believe to i mean what about that fact that in 2003 when police raid neverland ranch they found lot of prescription drugs i mean he couldn't possibly start preaparing his death from then and fooling ppl with mediciation back 6 years ago…….. i don't know what to think what so ever

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2:56 am
July 13, 2009


dezyte

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i do believe that with 911 everything happened like that.They were planing how to make it right and they didn't have the sense of time….while there were already ready and called 911 it passed 30-40 min ….Its just when they are planing it all they think it will go smoothly but when sthis mess started you could see that will be some prb and barriers across the way as alot of ppl will do their job and will be a huge disturbance….

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3:58 am
July 13, 2009


electron

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This site http://www.news.com.au/dailyte…..21,00.html seems to outline much of the controversy surrounding Jackson and how he died. His doctor claimed to have found him on his bed with a faint pulse but not breathing and immediately started CPR, if he had a pulse but wasn't breathing, shouldn't the priority have been to do rescue breathing and try and get his breathing back, and only start CPR when his heart stopped…., Then on the other hand the biographer who claims to have spoken to the family says his son saw him collapse in the living room and that the doctor and guard put him on the bed…now which version is it?! Also, he had a bed in his living room?!, because they surely couln't have carried him up to the bedroom to put him on the bed, were's the sense in that… Also, how could a cardiologist not have known that CPR has to be done on a flat surface…nothing adds up at all…and also at first they said how Murray was fully co-operating with the investigation and was not a suspect and now it appers he's not co-operating http://www.mns.co.uk/01215185.html The plot thickens by the day.

4:36 am
July 13, 2009


carelesslove46

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If Micheal indeed faked his death…Then this thing could have well been in the planning for years and years..Just imagine how many people would need to be involved for starter's..As for the 911 call and the paramedic's that attended Michael, I read that they worked on him at the house for close to three quater's of an hour before rushing him to the hospital..Surely it would have made more sense to get him to the hospital as quick as possible..Was Dr Conrad Murray even a proper doctor licenced to practice or was he some 'quack'?? If Michael did die that day then it's my 'gut feeling' that he could have been saved if certain individual's had acted quicker. There are so many variation's of that day's events out there on the net..One thing for certain, I doubt we will ever learn the truth.xx

4:53 am
July 13, 2009


carelesslove46

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To the person who bought the paper that stated Michael was 'gay'..I dont think he was, though it wouldn't matter to me..What matter's to me is that now certain low-life's will come out and say absolutely anything to sell a story and make a buck..The same thing happend with Elvis..People have said he was gay and had had an affair with the fifties star Nick Adams..Then there are other's who claimed Elvis had enjoyed a sexual relationship with his own mother..32 years after Presley's death the BS continues..It will be the same for Michael too..Sadly.


7:14 am
July 13, 2009


dezyte

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TO carelesslove46  To be honest i don't believe even any of that even it would be truth i wouldn't really care !I  LUV him for his music and his talent not for if he is sleeping with men or women And yes you r right lot of storys are coming and yet will gonna come as no one really cares to be generous or honest they just care about the money and fame by putting shit on MJ … its just sad that ppl are that way… on the other hand if he is alive he will have a chance to see who cared for him and who definitely used him.Like Nanny Grace she said that she never said anything bad about MJ and that interview with Barak was more truth then a lie afterword we seen on YOUTUBE that Barak have filmed nanny grace and revealed that she indeed said shit about MJ.Person who worked for him for the past 17 years and who cared for his children on the first good occasion putting shit on him!!!!!

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9:24 am
July 13, 2009


mistyt

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Hi all, we had a programme on in the uk last night called [ Michael Jackson's Last days what really happened] in one part of the programme captain harrow from the critical response dept, was saying to the interviewer that the paramedics have stars home tagged, so they can block out the LA media but because MJ was renting this house it was'nt tagged, so i guess the person who made the 911 call could'nt say to much in who it was that had been taken ill because in the matter of minutes the house would have surrounded by media.There are such a lot of questions that needs to be answered about what happened to MJ and hopefully the truth will come out one day.

I really think he is no longer with us sad to say[ i wish he was] the world has lost a really talented, compassonate  but a misunderstood loving being, who at the end of the day just wanted to be treated like a normal human being.

may you rest in peace xxx

9:54 am
July 13, 2009


Arual1979

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I'm interested in the statement in the Foxnews article that says MJ was given a shot of demerol that day, while he was packing his things to go to the UK.  Since 7th grade, I have had severe migraines, and from time to time i have received shots of demerol for the pain.  I also have demerol pills from my doctor in my home in case of emergency.  Demerol is a great pain killer, BUT demerol makes you fall asleep.  I fall asleep from the pill form in about 30 minutes (when I used to gets shots, I was asleep in about 15-20), and I have slept up to 12 hours on it.  Ummmmm….. now, maybe MJ had a high tolerance due to an excessive use of demerol, so maybe he no longer falls asleep from it, but I still have to wonder….  Why would MJ be given a shot of demerol before packing and traveling overseas?  I find dificulty walking on demerol (I feel like MJ looked in those pictures of his trial when he is in his PJs and holding on to a man on his left and right) much less traveling anywhere. I would have to be carried on and off the plane.

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12:45 pm
July 13, 2009


Sosh

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I don't know if this is yet mentioned, but I listened again to the 911-call.


Repeatedly the caller says the gentleman is not breathing and has a weak pulse.  Why is he pumping his hearth when he's not breathing.  Wouldn't it have been better if the doctor tried to let MJ breathe again.

1:15 pm
July 13, 2009


morla

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Post edited 6:36 am – July 14, 2009 by morla


Drugs as the ones spoken about can cause (in overdose) a “respiratory depression” (”Atemdepression” in German). This means that the drugs suppress the signals of the respiratory centre in the brain stem- what causes that breathing stops. In second step the heart stops beating.


http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/20…..ckson.html   <- click link

I searched for an article because I can't explain it in English very good – et voilà

3:35 pm
July 13, 2009


wishful09

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Everything is too strange. Everyone else has already made valid points.  All I wanna say is that someone needs to hold Miko down and make him tell the truth. If Michael has passed, he knows what killed him. If Michael is alive, he knows where he is. Someone besides Larry King needs to interview him. Im tired of him mumbling and stumbiling through answers. Talk Miko!!

3:35 pm
July 13, 2009


Smiile1929

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Apparently Tha Jackson Family Are Not Gonna Bury Mj Without His Brain ..

5:36 pm
July 13, 2009


supermom75

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here is my theory ok where to start

1. the 911 call now everyone  know if someone is not breathing no matter who it is that you should call 911 right away even if you are a doctor  and in this case michael jackson no doctor i know would try then call  no emotion in the 911 call and a gentleman  not mj  seems strange

2,the ambulance  slowly backs out not fast  no sirens at all and the ppl were not moving fast either to  put him in it .

3.he arives at the hospital the doctor  no where in sight  and jermaine says  he arrived there and  brought the children in to see him then in latoyas  new interview  she did but in any of the videos i did not see the children with the granmother enter or leave the hospital were they even there

4 jermaine says he is michaels back bone and wished it was him yet again in  latoyas new interview  she was closest to michael

5.the jacksons go into the home  before a search is even  done  now when has anyone  been able to go into a home after someone dies  before a search is done  in any state  unless it was natrual causes and family new that person was dead or was goin to die

6.now big kicker the 1st autopsy was done and  no comment on it  except  he had no signs of foul play and was very healthy  then they say joe requested 2cnd or family request second autopsy again in latoyas interview she requsted it  hmmm

7.joe asks for third  why ?

8.yet why has nothing of dna come up he had so many impersonators he paid to help him go places  why not a dna  to prove it is michael jackson  who really died

9.memorial  lol here is a good one none of mj's closest friends where at the memorial  ppl who did not even know him yet magic johnson said michael had kentuky friend chicken yet michael as we all should know is a vegi eater he does not eat meat the mother was not crying  the little girl looked like she was nervous they were nudging her to talk and said he is the best daddy in the world  present  and want to tell him i love him latoya says he is watching every last one of you right now and he loves you all …um ok the im alive and will live forever  now michael was into hidden messeges alot i mean what family wears sunglasses inside at a memorial yet they say when kathrine was in the hospital she was crying she came out on video she did not look like she had been at all  and when  the 3 sisters were in the underass rebbie was laughing  how is this possible ..

10.after the memorial the media  began  now there is alot here  so let me put all of it together and i will right back to you but i do have to say what  about that so called ambulance pic  it looks like it had  to be in the hospital  cause there was no way you could get a pic  in those ambulance vidoes i have seen  and  if you look at the hellicopter one of him sitting up you can see the body under it is a medical bag it is red and when he is moving he sits up and not does he just move the straps around him come off slowly look at it over and over again i did and the ambulance pic he looks very young for 50 and darker  i would say that pic is from the time he had his hair caught on fire  when he was younger or  it is a made up shot  for the media  it is not him now he was way to dark skined

i will be back for the second half when it comes to all the case info  and were i see it is goin and i do have alot  i wrote it all down  on paper you can all call me crazy i do not care  i am an x cop and i am very good at this  it is all being done a$$ backwards  i feel ..i love you more michael never forget me xxxxxx

6:58 pm
July 13, 2009


dancer1792

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About where Michael collapsed, I've read sooooo many different reports.

-He was in his bedroom and collapsed

-He was in the Dr.'s bedroom and collapsed

-He was in the living room with Prince and collapsed

-Joe Jackson says he died in his sleep

-Someone said the Dr. was with him when he collapsed

-Someone said the Dr. just happened to walk by his room and find him unconsious.


So…which one is it.  They all can't be right.  Also I heard somewhere I think it was the day of his death that his house is only about 10 minutes from the hospital.  If this is the case why did the doctor spend 30 minutes looking for a phone when he could have spent 10 minutes taking Michael to the hospital by car?  And if the 911 caller did not say that it was Michael who collapsed how did the media know that they should show up, because they probably would not have cared as much if it was just one of the employees.  There are way too many questions regarding the day he collapsed.

7:39 pm
July 13, 2009


Wendy Darling

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Supermom75 thank you for summarize the case.

I notice a lack of photographs, only one of the ambulance? why?  If theres is a paparazzi, why only took one?

Are there images of the family entering the hospital? I don´t konow very well some things, but when the media reported the autopsy results, did mention any forensic doctors names or something official, or where it has  taken place?

It is weird too the video of the helicopter..who was taken the video???..why they open the doors so soon and we can see what was going on i? By the way i noticed too the “resurrection” of the body, sitting up slowly and the slow movement of the black straps,,, and the strange movemets of the red clothes, …. RED, RED…….LIKE MICHAEL´S THRILLER JACKET!! .  ( I know, call me crazy)

But, If he was Michael…  then he stay in the helicopter and who was the body at the ambulance?… maybe a dummie, I´m sure.

Well..i think we are taking part in a movie… very funny!

Remember how start Thriller,  was the film the reality?,  the reality was the girl nightmare?.. Michael awakes the girl… and…


We are sleeping between the reflection of two mirrors.


Michael wake us!


I love you Michael

7:41 pm
July 13, 2009


supermom75

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@ dancer you are right those where alot of stories i have heard on the new  on the internet  just tons of changed stories on it  to clear it all up i just feel a dna should be done i mean michael jackson and  no dna test to prove it is him  i thought most famous ppl who die they have to prove it was them i mean what they look at a body and because michael was so specail and different then others so they see him and say yup that is him i mean so wrong i feel mj is not being heard or being made fun of in the media  it is very hurtful it just proves  how cold and mean this world has turned to  i mean nothing about his good accomps all the neg and lies why i mean michael was right back stabbing lies theft hate evil plain evil

7:46 pm
July 13, 2009


supermom75

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yes wendy and if you notice  there is a video  of the helicopter landing and moving the body to the van after we saw it move and there was no red in the helicopter no one came out wearing red and when the body came out it was wrapped nicely but where did the straps gooooo hmmmmm

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