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5:33 pm July 14, 2009
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hey guys.. i just wanted to share this individuals comment…it was another site….his friend claims to know a scientist who concluded that there was no body under that white sheet.
“When they showed you the footage of the helicopter transporting the `body` then landing and the `body` being removed in a body bag into the van
twice, as its being lowed off the plane, and as its being lifted into the van, the `body bag` literally bounces off as if its completly empty…
if you carry an empty bag along a stretcher its going to wave and bounce about…
you cant say `its because they were moving it quickly` as they were very gentle, yet it seemed the smallest touch made the thing shake/bounce…
as skinny as michael jackson was, my friend who is a scientist and a master in laws of gravity etc… has told me THERES CLEARLY NOTHING in that body bag.. maybe a bit of foam…
the footage again….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..E0eqz7JanQ
at 47 seconds, and again at 54 seconds… the `body bag ` shakes as if its completly weightless..
i am not a conspiracy theorist but its clear there was no human body (not even a skinny one) inside here….”
source: http://74.125.95.132/search?q=…..&gl=ca
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5:36 pm July 14, 2009
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It's quite obvious! I knew it all along.
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5:39 pm July 14, 2009
| Give.In.To.Me
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I thought that the second I saw it on tv. Nobodys body is that thin. A body would clearly be raised higher than the sides of the basket the were using.
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Can you feel it..
Can you feel it…
CAN YOU FEEL IT |
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5:41 pm July 14, 2009
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5:41 pm July 14, 2009
| i87
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Omg Andrea…im freaking out…..i realllly hope hes alive……..im havin one of my panic attacks…………im not going crazy rite??? theres a strong possibility that hes alive rite??
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5:45 pm July 14, 2009
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i87 said:
Omg Andrea…im freaking out…..i realllly hope hes alive……..im havin one of my panic attacks…………im not going crazy rite??? theres a strong possibility that hes alive rite??
NO YOU'RE NOT GOING CRAZY! We all somehow, somewhere, in our minds believe he is alive! It's really clear there was no body in that thing! Soon, the truth will come out! Let's keep our fingers crossed, guys!
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5:47 pm July 14, 2009
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Give.in.to.me said:
I thought that the second I saw it on tv. Nobodys body is that thin. A body would clearly be raised higher than the sides of the basket the were using.
As much as I watch crime shows (not that crappy CSI stuff) but actualy autopsy shows and coroner shows – (the First 48 is a prime example) ANY body that is in a body bag CLEARLY has some sort of lumpage to it, you know what I mean? and I've never seen anyone that stiff before in my life. It was stiff as a board, seriously!
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‘I think in some way I wanted it to end, even if it meant my own destruction.’ |
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5:47 pm July 14, 2009
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When someone on here showed that other CNN footage taken at another angle and said 'no body can be that flat' I took a look myself and she / he was right! I also watched as the folks in the van going to the mourge kind of just threw 'Michael' on to their gurny and gave the other one back to the helicopter.
Good catch everyone!
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You bash abusing victimize within the scheme
You try to cope with every lie they scrutinize
Somebody please have mercy cause I just can’t take it ”
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5:51 pm July 14, 2009
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DawneVee said:
When someone on here showed that other CNN footage taken at another angle and said 'no body can be that flat' I took a look myself and she / he was right! I also watched as the folks in the van going to the mourge kind of just threw 'Michael' on to their gurny and gave the other one back to the helicopter.
Good catch everyone!
Yeah, they handled that 'body' pretty shitty in the van, if you ask me.
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5:57 pm July 14, 2009
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Damn…. That is pretty insane.. Looks empty to me..
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5:57 pm July 14, 2009
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I DO thought that the first time I saw it, but i thought i was crazy.
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I wish you, Michael, to be in peace forever, wherever you are, dead or alive.
From a non (always) fan, who have always respected him profoundly
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6:00 pm July 14, 2009
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Starting to really look like dude DID sit up in that helicopter eh? So was he just hiding along the sides while they carried that fake crap out? Was it it an diversion? wow..
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6:11 pm July 14, 2009
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I gotta saythat as much as I want to, I do not see the body sitting up.
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Can you feel it..
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6:14 pm July 14, 2009
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Actually my little brother pointed it out when he first watched the video. He said that it looks like a surf board is under the bag.But it likda looks like there are feet at the bottom so I dunno. Its all so confusing
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***RIP Michael Jackson** |
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6:20 pm July 14, 2009
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HEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Okay, so pay close attention here, when you watch this video of them transporting alleged body of MJ from chopper to van.
Notice the most narrow end of the body, the end that's going directly into the van. Obviously that end is the “feet” as the body tapers down to that narrowest area. But pay close attention to the feet…………………they are completely flat, very narrow and pointed forward. This is SO NOT Authentic of a dead body. I've been a nurse for over 2 decades, I've seen my share of bodies, taken many to the morgue……..and I can tell you, when a person has passed, their feet (toes) point upward and remain that way. Don't believe me? Go to Google Images, google “dead body morgue” and you'll see plenty of pics that show this. Okay so that toes may not be pointed directly to the sky but their definitely pointed upward…………….and in a body bag such as this, you'd SEE the toes protruding upward. You don't in this video so this video is BS. There is so not a real human body in there, let alone the body of MJ.
This is the first time I've seen this video and “this” hit me immediately, it was so obvious to me. It couldn't have been more obvious.
Also………even if MJ was a reported “mere 112 lbs” there is no way the crew could have so easily moved him as they did; it looked far too effortless, particularly the dude in the chopper who moved the body on the back-board onto the stretcher that took body to van. He even bent over while doing it…….that would have killed his back.
It's all bogus !
http://edition.cnn.com/video/#…..ideosearch
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7:24 pm July 14, 2009
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7:30 pm July 14, 2009
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Post edited 12:32 pm – July 15, 2009 by jackoforever91
12fear said:
…He is Alive….
why u tryna act all creepyish? if u know somethin, tell us!
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7:34 pm July 14, 2009
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to curious_george:
yeah! i agree with that..
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“I’ll B Ur Wendy and U’ll B My Peter Pan MJ, Together We’ll Fly to Neverland Or To A Place With No Name.. I’ll always stay with u, stay by your side, I’ll never Let Go.. Trust me, I Love U With All My Heart Micheal..” |
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7:44 pm July 14, 2009
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jackoforever91 said:
Post edited 7:32 pm – July 14, 2009 by jackoforever91
12fear said:
…He is Alive….
why u tryna act all creepyish? if u know somethin, tell us!
…I'm quite sure The City are payed off as well, I'm just sick and tired of all the BS. Why can't they just freaking do a DNA test on the supposed cadaver and get it over with? (they never will, it's not Michael). Where the hell is the higher authority? (Hello Arnold!), I swear to God if a DNA test was done on that body—by a neutral source, this crap would be cleared up in a minute. Why can't they just take care of it BAU? Why not? Because it's all a big freaking lie. Fuckers are going to come out saying that he was murdered by Dripravan overdose or some crap.(but not the real Michael) I'm positive! I liked Michael in the good times and in the bad times, but god damn it man… by now I'm sure you've seen all his body doubles, hence the phrase–the man in the mirror–it's like looking at him in person man, specially the Carley one. With that many anything is possible…(one of them is dead) for all we know, Michael has not been in the country for a while. (Not!) I know this…I have read every freaking article out there in the Internet on a daily basis, all the contradictions, all the lies, all the imposter's, all the conspiracy theories, all the probabilities that he is not dead, how he was “disappeared” and let me tell you this… The Guy is Alive, maybe not by choice, but by luck…Maybe he really was the target…but one of his doubles took the hit accidentally…By the paid off Cardiac Doctor. This Theory would explain… why the 911 call was so weird, No Mention of Michael Jackson, In reality when they were giving him cpr they discovered it really wasn't Michael… and the Doctor was shocked he killed the wrong person and couldn't do jack shit about it and didn't know what to do with his lame self. The caller was confused and didnt know what the hell to say……By instinct one would give the address and tele #, to make sure they could arrive at the right place & save the king of pop right? Also consider this…. Lets say this actually happened…In the presence of Michael Jackson/ or he discovered the plot— in his rented- home, let's say the police came… Michael Jackson greets them…tells them that they tried to kill him, but instead killed his double…the would be assassin ran out the kitchen (as noted by the media) from his house the Cardiac Doctor that is!) Michael knowing of this attempt…asked the state to keep the story as it was 1st presented to the media and public… so that he's would be killers believed that he really died…and his life could be protected “accordingly” Let me tell you this Michael Jackson & Arnold S. are super close friends… “trust me” it would only take a call to get it done. This my friends would also explain the delayed—ambulance with smoked out windows arriving and backing out of the home in a delayed fashion, There was no need to rush- the king is alive and the the “other” guy is already dead. The dead body was put in the ambulance as was Michael too….the ambulance was “escorted by lapd” to UCLA- The dead body stays at UCLA— it does not end there… we all saw Michael Jackson Move in the Helicopter…Indeed it was him…He was being flown to the morgue…YES! (side note: LAPD stayed escorting the morgue for a long long long time…, they needed the crowds and the intensity to disipate in order to then transfer Michael to an undisclosed location—Michael Joseph Jackson is in PROTECTIVE CUSTODY—-which means:”placing a person in a secure setting to keep him from harms way”…, why else transport a dead body to a morgue on a helicopter…makes no sence right ?.(there was a sense of urgency to take care of the REAL Michael…thats why!!!—> Why the delay with his Burial? 3 autopsy's to figure out what happened?….all they are doing is buying time because they are sorting out what to do with the actual dead body of the other person, at the same time trying to keep and maintain the story that the king of pop is still dead while they investigate & protect Michael —>Haven't you noticed, the DEA is involved, the FBI, even the NSA is freaking involved…ladies & gentleman, there is much more that meets than eye on this one… PLz understand… DEA, FBI, NSA— don't get involved just because of Prescription drugs issues, xanax, demerol, or Dripravan Issues…..This is much bigger…you just wait and see…. Sincerely…..”Someone thats knows the truth”
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7:56 pm July 14, 2009
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12fear said:
jackoforever91 said:
Post edited 7:32 pm – July 14, 2009 by jackoforever91
12fear said:
…He is Alive….
why u tryna act all creepyish? if u know somethin, tell us!
…I'm quite sure The City are payed off as well, I'm just sick and tired of all the BS. Why can't they just freaking do a DNA test on the supposed cadaver and get it over with? (they never will, it's not Michael). Where the hell is the higher authority? (Hello Arnold!), I swear to God if a DNA test was done on that body—by a neutral source, this crap would be cleared up in a minute. Why can't they just take care of it BAU? Why not? Because it's all a big freaking lie. Fuckers are going to come out saying that he was murdered by Dripravan overdose or some crap.(but not the real Michael) I'm positive! I liked Michael in the good times and in the bad times, but god damn it man… by now I'm sure you've seen all his body doubles, hence the phrase–the man in the mirror–it's like looking at him in person man, specially the Carley one. With that many anything is possible…(one of them is dead) for all we know, Michael has not been in the country for a while. (Not!) I know this…I have read every freaking article out there in the Internet on a daily basis, all the contradictions, all the lies, all the imposter's, all the conspiracy theories, all the probabilities that he is not dead, how he was “disappeared” and let me tell you this… The Guy is Alive, maybe not by choice, but by luck…Maybe he really was the target…but one of his doubles took the hit accidentally…By the paid off Cardiac Doctor. This Theory would explain… why the 911 call was so weird, No Mention of Michael Jackson, In reality when they were giving him cpr they discovered it really wasn't Michael… and the Doctor was shocked he killed the wrong person and couldn't do jack shit about it and didn't know what to do with his lame self. The caller was confused and didnt know what the hell to say……By instinct one would give the address and tele #, to make sure they could arrive at the right place & save the king of pop right? Also consider this…. Lets say this actually happened…In the presence of Michael Jackson/ or he discovered the plot— in his rented- home, let's say the police came… Michael Jackson greets them…tells them that they tried to kill him, but instead killed his double…the would be assassin ran out the kitchen (as noted by the media) from his house the Cardiac Doctor that is!) Michael knowing of this attempt…asked the state to keep the story as it was 1st presented to the media and public… so that he's would be killers believed that he really died…and his life could be protected “accordingly” Let me tell you this Michael Jackson & Arnold S. are super close friends… “trust me” it would only take a call to get it done. This my friends would also explain the delayed—ambulance with smoked out windows arriving and backing out of the home in a delayed fashion, There was no need to rush- the king is alive and the the “other” guy is already dead. The dead body was put in the ambulance as was Michael too….the ambulance was “escorted by lapd” to UCLA- The dead body stays at UCLA— it does not end there… we all saw Michael Jackson Move in the Helicopter…Indeed it was him…He was being flown to the morgue…YES! (side note: LAPD stayed escorting the morgue for a long long long time…, they needed the crowds and the intensity to disipate in order to then transfer Michael to an undisclosed location—Michael Joseph Jackson is in PROTECTIVE CUSTODY—-which means:”placing a person in a secure setting to keep him from harms way”…, why else transport a dead body to a morgue on a helicopter…makes no sence right ?.(there was a sense of urgency to take care of the REAL Michael…thats why!!!—> Why the delay with his Burial? 3 autopsy's to figure out what happened?….all they are doing is buying time because they are sorting out what to do with the actual dead body of the other person, at the same time trying to keep and maintain the story that the king of pop is still dead while they investigate & protect Michael —>Haven't you noticed, the DEA is involved, the FBI, even the NSA is freaking involved…ladies & gentleman, there is much more that meets than eye on this one… PLz understand… DEA, FBI, NSA— don't get involved just because of Prescription drugs issues, xanax, demerol, or Dripravan Issues…..This is much bigger…you just wait and see…. Sincerely…..”Someone thats knows the truth”
DAMN! lol wowwwzers
idk what to think anymore quite frankly, i'm confused as f**king hell.
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2:21 pm July 15, 2009
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What's also very interesting about that video and the handeling of 'his body', is the all of a sudden rush they have.
Look at it. When the Body bag comes out of the helicopter they dont's rush that much. But when the body is nearing the van, they almost launch him into the van. I almost start looking at the front of the van if he didn't smash trough the window.
Why such a hurry with a dead body? 1 or 2 minutes less cooling it won't be problem, Right?
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3:47 pm July 15, 2009
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^^ I suspect they began to rush because of the chopper (that was filiming all of this) looming overhead
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3:51 pm July 15, 2009
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you have so right,i saw his feet is very flat..and his body too..i dont believe was body there.
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11:40 pm July 15, 2009
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Indeed it didn't look like a body. Might be i've seen to much CSI…
But think about those John Doe labels on ones feet in television series or movies. The feet are always pointing up!
If they are laying flat, there the shape of the bag should have been much wider in the place where his feet were.
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11:54 pm July 15, 2009
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I also want to add, if you watch the whole video of it you can actually see they hit the “body” with the helicopters basket when they are removing it from the van. Watch closely. It's at about the 56-58 second mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..PvDlZlDUvo
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Can you feel it..
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12:18 am July 16, 2009
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Till now I hadn't seen the whole movie, but when the man picks up the body to put it on the other stretcher, it doesn't seem to be really heavy. He just flips it to the other side as it was a bag of potatoes! Take note of the man in the van constantly trying to close the back door. As if there is something we are not allowed to see.
Also when the body is in the van, the men seem not so rushed anymore, walking slowly to the side of the van.
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12:26 am July 16, 2009
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It could have been a decoy and the real body was moved off somewhere else..I just dont know what to believe anymore..I agree though, this footage is just bullshit.
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12:54 am July 16, 2009
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I even thought to see that the van, when it rides behind the trees is switched with another one, but it seemd only a shape shift in the shadow…
Damn these theories, sometimes I think it's better to stop participating in this forum…
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12:57 am July 16, 2009
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Post edited 6:04 pm – July 16, 2009 by BelieverAngel90
Seriously , when I heard that Michael was dead , I said “No , I don't think so” … took me about 5 days to believe it (I was fooled by the media - then I remembered Michael's Songs – “Tabloid Junkie” , “Privacy” , “Scream” , “Xscape” )… and now I just saw that … Michael is alive because no one's body is that lightweight and easy to carry.
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“Michael … I understand … I am sad I never got to talk to you … like a normal person.”
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2:52 am July 16, 2009
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And even if Michael wasn't that heavy anymore, you simply can't handle it like they did. Also taking into account that his body should have gone into rigor mortis by now, so it possibly wouldn't be so flexible anymore
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