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9:02 am
July 16, 2009


jewell

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Post edited 10:14 pm – July 24, 2009 by jewell


just another theory…
 
okay,  this is just a theory a friend of mine just emailed me….
I don't want to think it could be possible, but i find it interesting…
these are her words…
 
“”lets say,
Michael knew that he had cancer and only a short amount of time left.
he is in debt.
he wants to be able to leave his children a nice estate.
his family's careers are also waning,
 
so he planned this comeback knowing he wouldn't live to do it,
he sent his double to cover for him in some events these last few months…
so everyone would think that he was healthy,
the double is also the one that passed the physical.
 
He knew that this concert would become a memorial concert and
will produce a large amount of money for his family and siblings after he was gone.
it would also create jobs for his band and dancers etc…
 
He confided in his family and close friends that he was going to pass.
He knew that his children would soon be exposed
and that is why he showed them a week before his death.
because he wanted to be the one to show them
and have their memory of coming out into public view
be with him on an fun outing, and not with someone else after his death.
 
He wrote the memorial service and recorded the spoken words that were on “will you be there”
that is why there is so much emotion in them,
because he knew that he wasn't going to live.
He may have even rehearsed what Paris said with her.
 
There weren't many tears at the memorial from his family,
because they had time to come to terms with his death,
and had probably said their private good-byes to him over the last few months while he was alive.
Sometimes after someone dies after a terminal illness,
you are sad, but you are also happy that they aren't in pain anymore.
 
When liza minelli stated that “when the autopsy report comes back, all hell will break loose”
could be that she knew he had terminal cancer and that the report will state that,
and everyone will be in shock.
 
There are reports that the bedroom looked like a terminally ill's set up,
and it could be that he was receiving morphine, that is what they give to the terminally ill.
That could also be why the ambulance moved so slow, because he was deceased already.
Also it could be why the body looked so flat,
If he was terminal he may have been very very skinny.
 
Now, if he had just died of cancer, without this tour planned…
he would have died in debt, without having all this publicity around his death…
but with having this tour planned and all the hoopla and pr around it…
he raised his image and records sales and will be able to provide for his family after he is gone.
 
now, why the family is saying that they think he was murdered , I don't know.
and there are other things that don't add up,
but just thought I would give you my theory as of now.
 
take care,”””
x
 
so, as I said that is my friends theory,
 I found it interesting, and plausible.
I thought I would throw it out there to you guys.
 

To find the truth… I like to play Devil’s Advocate… Please don’t let that upset you!

9:06 am
July 16, 2009


Miss Dahmer

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hmm..interesting theory, actually. it's quite possible, too.

‘I think in some way I wanted it to end, even if it meant my own destruction.’

9:19 am
July 16, 2009


yaya

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that theory does make sense. but if it was the case, why would paris have gone up there and put on a show of fake crying? even if she had already finished with all of her grieving, why would she have made all the crying noises when she could have simply done without them?

They don’t see you as I do, I wish they would try to; I’m sure they’d think again… – Michael Jackson, “Ben”

9:21 am
July 16, 2009


Finnlady

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I have to agree with this theory. I don't want to, but this theory seems to me to be the most convincing theory. It's sad, but I believe MJ died for the skin cancer or is dying in the hospital now. That really explains why the tapes are gone from MJ's house and why the ambulance didn't hurry. MJ didn't want to people know that he would die for cancer.

9:26 am
July 16, 2009


yaya

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if this theory was true, it would mean michael would rather everyone think of him as a drug addict than someone who died of cancer. i just have a hard time believing that

They don’t see you as I do, I wish they would try to; I’m sure they’d think again… – Michael Jackson, “Ben”

9:26 am
July 16, 2009


jewell

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yes,

I do know that some people find it embarrassing that they have cancer,

I know that my dad was that way.

he always wanted people to think that he was healthy.

To find the truth… I like to play Devil’s Advocate… Please don’t let that upset you!

9:29 am
July 16, 2009


jewell

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well, i think that if the atopsy says that he had cancer,

who could blame him for taking pain relieving drugs…

my dad was addicted to loritabs big time when he passed…

and i was worried about him,

but who was i to tell him not to take them… i saw the pain he was in every day.


i don't think anyone would think of mj as an drug addict, if the results show cancer

To find the truth… I like to play Devil’s Advocate… Please don’t let that upset you!

9:32 am
July 16, 2009


jewell

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Post edited 2:32 am – July 17, 2009 by jewell


i also wanted to add,

that my dad passed from terminal cancer,

but yet his death certificate says cardiac arrest, heart failure…

because that what gave out in the end.

To find the truth… I like to play Devil’s Advocate… Please don’t let that upset you!

9:41 am
July 16, 2009


souza81

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yaya said:

if this theory was true, it would mean michael would rather everyone think of him as a drug addict than someone who died of cancer. i just have a hard time believing that


Yes, me too. And if he would be terminally ill of cancer, the coroner had to see it on the first authopsy and not only after toxic's rapport. To many things don't add up.

He looked me deep in the eyes He’s touchin’ me so to start He says there’s no turnin’ back He trapped me into his heart!

9:43 am
July 16, 2009


DawneVee

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Interesting theory…

But…

What about the last video footage of MJ at the Staples Center rehearsing?  We all know that, that was MJ, not the O2 impersonator.

Nobody dying from cancer will get up there and rehearse like that.


…My father died too of terminal cancer so I know how some of you feel. 

“With such confusion don’t it make you wanna scream You bash abusing victimize within the scheme You try to cope with every lie they scrutinize Somebody please have mercy cause I just can’t take it ” – Scream — Michael and Janet Jackson

9:48 am
July 16, 2009


yaya

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DawneVee said:

Interesting theory…

But…

What about the last video footage of MJ at the Staples Center rehearsing?  We all know that, that was MJ, not the O2 impersonator.

Nobody dying from cancer will get up there and rehearse like that.


…My father died too of terminal cancer so I know how some of you feel. 


exactly. if he was on his death bed, he wouldn't have been up there performing and looking healthy. plus michael knows firsthand how relentless the media is. i just feel he would have spoken of his illness simply cuz he knew the media would say any and everything about him, just like they're saying he's a junkie. i think it's one thing when you want people to think you're doing ok…but things change when you know people will start telling lies about you, so it seems michael would wanna nip in the bud the rumors about drugs and instead admit to having cancer.

They don’t see you as I do, I wish they would try to; I’m sure they’d think again… – Michael Jackson, “Ben”

10:02 am
July 16, 2009


lou

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The following article says that he had a genetic disease and needed lungs transplant, also that he had anorexia and it also mentions a kind of conspiration:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new…..s-ago.html

I find the informations conflituous, but if they found oxygen tank and IV stands in the house, there's a possibility that he was ill…

… however, his family and some friends insist that he was healthy and died unexpectedely, so… I don't know what to believe anymore. The images of the rehearsal – I could swear it was him dancing on that stage, so it's hard to believe in the theory that he was terminally ill…

10:05 am
July 16, 2009


Cherry

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This is to me the most plausible theory of all I've read, definitely . I just thought about something similar; and reading this make me feel almost sure that he's dead; maybe the fact of trying to hide the cancer is the reason of all the weird things around his death. I think that probably we'll know soon the autopsy and this will be the big surprise . Because, let's think… the last times Michael was saw on tv, pics, etc… he seemed to be a really ill man, as far as I can remember.


This remind me of a film called 'My life without me'.


Anyway, I keep in mind (a little) the theory of the hoax, until further info.

(sorry for my English) I wish you, Michael, to be in peace forever, wherever you are, dead or alive. From a non (always) fan, who have always respected him profoundly

10:07 am
July 16, 2009


Finnlady

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jewell said:

Post edited 9:32 am – July 16, 2009 by jewell


i also wanted to add,

that my dad passed from terminal cancer,

but yet his death certificate says cardiac arrest, heart failure…

because that what gave out in the end.


But as jewell wrote the death certificate would say cardiac arrest, even though MJ had cancer and died because of that. The real reason for his death is that his heart stopped. Cancer cannot be the official reason for his death in the death certificate.

10:20 am
July 16, 2009


DawneVee

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Ian Helperin is on my 'do not read anything he publishes' list.  So when I seen that UK article aned seen it was written by him I almost left it alone, but then I figured I would read just in case.

Have any of you actually read this article?  Ian claims Michael was a homosexual and had been sleeping with a slew of men and children and would dress up as a woman to go meet men in some crackwhore motel!!


COME ON PEOPLE!!!!  FOR REAL????  This is why I don't read anything Ian writes because it's crap.  He portrays himself as the all professed MJ author when in fact he is just one of the many people trying to cash in on MJ's 'death'.

Find some more articles and from him and read them…this guy is a real piece of work I tell ya…

Another article to toss in the recycle bin!  Woohooo!


“With such confusion don’t it make you wanna scream You bash abusing victimize within the scheme You try to cope with every lie they scrutinize Somebody please have mercy cause I just can’t take it ” – Scream — Michael and Janet Jackson

10:21 am
July 16, 2009


SkylinexBleedsxRed

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Post edited 3:24 am – July 17, 2009 by SkylinexBleedsxRed


It seems interesting, But cancer takes time to build up. Many people with cancer live with the illness for many years. They don't just drop dead one day. The link to dailymail sounds made up. We don't even know if that is Michael with the mask. Why does this stuff come out only after he has died? Why didn't anyone mention that he had cancer one year ago? Farrah Fawcett had cancer, She battled it for about three years. Michael didn't have cancer, I'm sorry. I don't believe the issue about his lungs either. I think all of these stories about him are complete malarky.

I’d Bring You Flowers Every Day To Show You, It’s Not Your Make-Up Or Your Hair At All, It’s The Man Underneath It All That Amazes Me; And You Are, What Beautiful Is.

10:26 am
July 16, 2009


yaya

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DawneVee said:

Ian Helperin is on my 'do not read anything he publishes' list.  So when I seen that UK article aned seen it was written by him I almost left it alone, but then I figured I would read just in case.

Have any of you actually read this article?  Ian claims Michael was a homosexual and had been sleeping with a slew of men and children and would dress up as a woman to go meet men in some crackwhore motel!!


COME ON PEOPLE!!!!  FOR REAL????  This is why I don't read anything Ian writes because it's crap.  He portrays himself as the all professed MJ author when in fact he is just one of the many people trying to cash in on MJ's 'death'.

Find some more articles and from him and read them…this guy is a real piece of work I tell ya…

Another article to toss in the recycle bin!  Woohooo!



i didn't read the article when i saw the name dailymail or whatever. i never bought into the theory in the first place, but now this is an even bigger reason to disregard it.

They don’t see you as I do, I wish they would try to; I’m sure they’d think again… – Michael Jackson, “Ben”

10:31 am
July 16, 2009


Finnlady

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My uncle had a skin cancer and he died after 3 monts, when he was diagnosed for that cancer.


I want to believe that he is alive, but at the same time I have to be realistic.

10:34 am
July 16, 2009


SkylinexBleedsxRed

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Post edited 3:36 am – July 17, 2009 by SkylinexBleedsxRed


Finnlady said:

My uncle had a skin cancer and he died after 3 monts, when he was diagnosed for that cancer.


I want to believe that he is alive, but at the same time I have to be realistic.


I can disregard Michael having skin cancer though. Considering he always went outdoors with an umbrella. So, That “cancer” is ruled out for him.

I’d Bring You Flowers Every Day To Show You, It’s Not Your Make-Up Or Your Hair At All, It’s The Man Underneath It All That Amazes Me; And You Are, What Beautiful Is.

10:37 am
July 16, 2009


jewell

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no, i don't believe that article at all,

but i do believe it's possible that he could have had cancer ,

or some other terminal illness that he may have been embarrassed about.

he was a private person and probably didn't want to go through cancer with the media…

that would be a nightmare for him and his children.

what a horrible way to spend your last months.


if it is true, i can understand why he would keep it quiet.


many small town nobody's keep their terminal illness quiet and don't tell friends and neighbors.

then everyone is surprised when they die “suddenly”


it also makes sense why some report he was healthy,

and others report he was ill…

i think that it depends on who they saw, MJ or the double.

To find the truth… I like to play Devil’s Advocate… Please don’t let that upset you!

10:39 am
July 16, 2009


Finnlady

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SkylinexBleedsxRed said:

Finnlady said:

My uncle had a skin cancer and he died after 3 monts, when he was diagnosed for that cancer.


I want to believe that he is alive, but at the same time I have to be realistic.


I can disregard Michael having skin cancer though considering he always went outdoors with an umbrella.


That's true. Good point.


But there were a lots of rumours that he had a cancer in the beginning of this year and they said that he would have 6 months to live.

10:42 am
July 16, 2009


blackberry

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The Latest news on prescription drug abuse not too sure of its credibility though.


http://www.radaronline.com/exc…..scriptions

10:48 am
July 16, 2009


Finnlady

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Or maybe he had this vitiligo + lupus instead of skin cancer and he took stong painkillers because of that.


http://floacist.wordpress.com/…..r-lupus-2/

10:58 am
July 16, 2009


SkylinexBleedsxRed

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Finnlady said:

SkylinexBleedsxRed said:

Finnlady said:

My uncle had a skin cancer and he died after 3 monts, when he was diagnosed for that cancer.


I want to believe that he is alive, but at the same time I have to be realistic.


I can disregard Michael having skin cancer though considering he always went outdoors with an umbrella.


That's true. Good point.


But there were a lots of rumours that he had a cancer in the beginning of this year and they said that he would have 6 months to live.


I hope it's not true. I don't understand what people are trying to prove. Why would they need his brain for one if he had cancer? That makes no sense. The autopsy reports are crazy, Along with other stories. All I know is that I hope he is still alive. I hope someone can get their crap together once and for all. I'm so tired of all of the lies and accusations surrounding him.

I’d Bring You Flowers Every Day To Show You, It’s Not Your Make-Up Or Your Hair At All, It’s The Man Underneath It All That Amazes Me; And You Are, What Beautiful Is.

11:08 am
July 16, 2009


lou

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Someone explained that when a person dies of a terminal illness, there's no need to investigate the causes. Why should his family insist in saying he died unexpectedely and why the investigations took place? I'm almost sure that we can forget the theory of the “terminal illness”.

11:09 am
July 16, 2009


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Finnlady said:

I have to agree with this theory. I don't want to, but this theory seems to me to be the most convincing theory. It's sad, but I believe MJ died for the skin cancer or is dying in the hospital now. That really explains why the tapes are gone from MJ's house and why the ambulance didn't hurry. MJ didn't want to people know that he would die for cancer.


This is  exactly the theory I had built myself.Congrats.

I think he got maybe even a suddenly heart stop beating but did not died there,and was taken till the hospital cause if you look the image his vein is high, and some sort of pain expression.And since he reached there the doctors called the family and the managers of AEG and said, ok lets face the truth.The who knows who took his place on the exam can not replace him on stage or everyone will notice, the man is not Michael Jackson.However, this 50´s gentleman here will not ever again be able to perform.So  to protect the healthy condition of the patient, they might had agreeded with the circus raised by AEG, while Mike had been transfered for a very private and secretive hospital, maybe in another country.And right now is recovering, or…Tasting his ending days .

This matches the reason for the memorial, as a rare opportunity of our angel enjoy his own…Respectful wishes from his loyal fans, while he finishes his days in peace, far from the spotlights.

I do believe he is alive, but he will not come back, and this theory sounds as the most reasonable one.


Love you much much much more…

Our Spirit Never Die!

11:20 am
July 16, 2009


Cherry

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jewell said:

no, i don't believe that article at all,

but i do believe it's possible that he could have had cancer ,

or some other terminal illness that he may have been embarrassed about.

he was a private person and probably didn't want to go through cancer with the media…

that would be a nightmare for him and his children.

what a horrible way to spend your last months.


if it is true, i can understand why he would keep it quiet.


many small town nobody's keep their terminal illness quiet and don't tell friends and neighbors.

then everyone is surprised when they die “suddenly”


it also makes sense why some report he was healthy,

and others report he was ill…

i think that it depends on who they saw, MJ or the double.


 THAT'S WHAT I THINK TOO. I don't mean that he's dead for sure, but it was obvious that he wasn't in good health in the last years, some people (i'm not refering to anyone here in particular) don't want to admit it, don't know why. Everybody gets ill, even superstars!

And terminal illnesses sometimes have different periods, one week you're apparently fine, next week you're bad and so (the treatment) but never completely fine…until one day finally you die, I've lived it with a very close person and i see it in more people.

SORRY, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE YOU GIVE UP HOPE! but we must face some real facts.

(sorry for my English) I wish you, Michael, to be in peace forever, wherever you are, dead or alive. From a non (always) fan, who have always respected him profoundly

11:33 am
July 16, 2009


lou

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What follows doesn' mean that “he's not dead”, but that he probably wasn't terminally ill. We just have to think a little about it.

Someone explained that when a person dies of a terminal illness, there's no need to investigate the causes. It's obvious.

So, why would his family insist in saying he died unexpectedely and why the investigations took place? Would they pretend all this? I don't believe.


11:48 am
July 16, 2009


jewell

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Post edited 4:54 am – July 17, 2009 by jewell


well,

i don't know the answer,

i only know that when my father passed,

it was stomach cancer…

they asked us if we wanted an autopsy,

and that included examining the brain and tissues…

we didn't understand why we would want to do that when we knew what he died of…

they explained that sometimes family members ask for one to determine how far the cancer had spread,

and also to determine if that was the origin point of the cancer…

and also to determine if a stroke could have played a part.

they explained to us that gives a family, especially children,

a insight into the family history of cancer, and is very important.

cancer usually runs in families, but not always.

To find the truth… I like to play Devil’s Advocate… Please don’t let that upset you!

11:56 am
July 16, 2009


Cherry

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lou said:

What follows doesn' mean that “he's not dead”, but that he probably wasn't terminally ill. We just have to think a little about it.

Someone explained that when a person dies of a terminal illness, there's no need to investigate the causes. It's obvious.

So, why would his family insist in saying he died unexpectedely and why the investigations took place? Would they pretend all this? I don't believe.



Maybe nobody knew it, but him and the doctors, he is supposed to want to hide the illness.

(sorry for my English) I wish you, Michael, to be in peace forever, wherever you are, dead or alive. From a non (always) fan, who have always respected him profoundly

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