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Why aren’t the Jacksons denying the hoax?

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5:51 am
July 27, 2009


Zembla

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First of all, I share the same opinion as Souza. To me MJ is alive until there is clear proof that states the opposite.

Now, seeing the fact that MJHD has turned into a well-know site on the net, one would assume that the Jacksons have already found out about its existence. Maybe via word of mouth or maybe they had a quick glance at it themselves. What I'm wondering about:


Supposing they know about this forum and supposing MJ has in fact passed away, then WHY won't they make an effort to deny the supposed hoax? Surely they must know there are thousands of fans who won't get any peace of mind until some solid proof is spread out on the table?

5:56 am
July 27, 2009


Anna.K

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Zembla said:

First of all, I share the same opinion as Souza. To me MJ is alive until there is clear proof that states the opposite.

Now, seeing the fact that MJHD has turned into a well-know site on the net, one would assume that the Jacksons have already found out about its existence. Maybe via word of mouth or maybe they had a quick glance at it themselves. What I'm wondering about:


Supposing they know about this forum and supposing MJ has in fact passed away, then WHY won't they make an effort to deny the supposed hoax? Surely they must know there are thousands of fans who won't get any peace of mind until some solid proof is spread out on the table?


- If there's a hoax, well, I guess there'd be no sense for them in trying to deny it.

- If Michael has indeed passed away, to be honest, I think people perceive us as crazy fans in denial, which is too bad because it's really not the case for everyone here. So that's why, I think, they're not addressing it.

“With such confusions, don’t it make you wanna scream ?”

5:57 am
July 27, 2009


Whispering Wishes

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I asked that in a couple of posts in other threads…I'm glad someone else is thinking the same, lol! Seriously, his friends and/or family have to have at least heard about the death hoax rumor by now, and I find it strange that they're not denying it…yet they're finding time to either confirm or deny every other rumor that's out there about Michael. I would have thought that they would have addressed the hoax rumor, at least to give the fans some peace.

He who has a “why” to live for can bear with almost any “how.” – Friedrich Nietzsche

5:59 am
July 27, 2009


souza81

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I said that to me he is DEAD until proven otherwise, but I really think it could be a hoax


I do agree with you on the family thing here. I'm sure they know about this site, but why no reaction if he really died? I can image that our post are painfull to watch at if he really passed…


He looked me deep in the eyes He’s touchin’ me so to start He says there’s no turnin’ back He trapped me into his heart!

6:01 am
July 27, 2009


jewell

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Post edited 11:03 pm – July 27, 2009 by jewell



If i was a family member and he did indeed pass away,

I would not waste one minute of my precious time to try to address a hoax…

there would be no reason in it .


the die-hard hoax believers would not believe it …..

and would think that they were in on it and trying to cover themselves…


To find the truth… I like to play Devil’s Advocate… Please don’t let that upset you!

6:05 am
July 27, 2009


Zembla

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Heya Double W! Sorry for repeating what had already been said then. I do find it strange as well.

As funny as it may sound, try to put yourself in their shoes for a second. You just lost someone you love dearly. You are trying to cope with the loss and the grief that comes with it. Wouldn't the 'rumours' cause even more pain? Wouldn't you at least make a statement in order to TRY and stop the madness?

Unless ofcourse… they have got something to hide

6:08 am
July 27, 2009


Zembla

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souza81 said:

I said that to me he is DEAD until proven otherwise, but I really think it could be a hoax


I do agree with you on the family thing here. I'm sure they know about this site, but why no reaction if he really died? I can image that our post are painfull to watch at if he really passed…



Hahaha, I am losing it completely or so it seems. Sorry for misquoting you lady. My bad :)  

6:14 am
July 27, 2009


mysterylady

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jewell said:

Post edited 6:03 am – July 27, 2009 by jewell


If i was a family member and he did indeed pass away,

I would not waste one minute of my precious time to try to address a hoax…

there would be no reason in it .


the die-hard hoax believers would not believe it …..

and would think that they were in on it and trying to cover themselves…



I couldn't agree with you more. Look at what happened to the unknown member who tried to clear up some facts for people here. 90% of the members got hysterical by attacking him and accusing him of lying as opposed to welcoming characters with open arms, like supermom who claims to have known MJ very well  as well as creating false hope of MJ being alive by creating fake myspace and twitter accounts or JCC who posted false riddles in an attempt to confuse and steer people in the wrong direction.

6:15 am
July 27, 2009


rellababy

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Maybe they like the attention

6:49 am
July 27, 2009


carelesslove46

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Yes, I agree with you too Jewell and Mysterylady..I also read that post by the 'unknown' member…MY GOD! That poor soul was really shot down..I am beginning to think that this site isn't really a healthy one for the mind..There are some real fanatics here..At first coming here was fun..We could toss idea's around..But god help anyone if they actually believed Michael to be dead..He is dead..There is no hoax..The only mystery is how he died. He would not do this to his fans..His family would have needed to be in on the hoax but to ask them to carry the secret to their graves is just ridiculous..What happens when Mike's kids grow up and get married??..Or find life partners??..Do they keep the 'secret' from them or do they share the secret??. I came here wondering about the possibility of  a 'death hoax', however,  common sense prevails..Michael IS living but in a different way..Uri Geller says Michael is pure energy now. These are my belief's also..But each to his own..There seems to be some people here with their sanity hanging by a thread..Maybe this whole site was a bad idea…Take care..xx

6:56 am
July 27, 2009


hope

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Maybe the “unknown” member who wrothe the post “no hoax”

was trying to do that…he/she claimed to know Janet al least…

Hmm…..makes you wonder……

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6:58 am
July 27, 2009


pumpkin

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carelesslove46 said:

.He is dead..There is no hoax..Uri Geller says Michael is pure energy now. These are my belief's also..But each to his own..There seems to be some people here with their sanity hanging by a thread..Maybe this whole site was a bad idea…Take care..xx


That is your opinion a you say and everyone has a right to theirs -mine is he might be alive and I don't think I will ever give up on the idea he might be there somewhere watching even if he doesn't come back as a performer.

If you believe the BS Uri Geller spouts then that is also up to you but he is a known liar and says anything to get in the limelight – a complete and utter con man.  This site is a great idea and I hope it doesn't collapse it keeps me sain lately.

6:58 am
July 27, 2009


Zembla

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What I meant was: why don't they make a statement in the media? TMZ for example They seem to be talking to the press quite often, why do they remain silent on the rumours?

7:08 am
July 27, 2009


sita

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how many posts would you as a family member do, and where?


Somehow I can understand that they are really not willed to answer a

fan-hoax-forum.


If they really would do it, do you believe,

they would have success, that ppl believe it?


NO!

We are in a kind of obsession.

Thinking of movie plot, great escape hoaxes and so on.

Would we accept the truth beside our world.


Keep your eyes open, really open and be ready to accept everything.

Then we are on a good way. Even if truth is hard..


dont forget: LOOK WITH YOUR HEART

7:09 am
July 27, 2009


PepaBCN

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mysterylady said:

I couldn't agree with you more. Look at what happened to the unknown member who tried to clear up some facts for people here. 90% of the members got hysterical by attacking him and accusing him of lying as opposed to welcoming characters with open arms, like supermom who claims to have known MJ very well  as well as creating false hope of MJ being alive by creating fake myspace and twitter accounts or JCC who posted false riddles in an attempt to confuse and steer people in the wrong direction.


Couldn't be these “fake posts” part of the same hoax to maintain the doubt???

7:12 am
July 27, 2009


michaelismysoulmate

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I will stick to believing michael is alive until proof of his death i have already been through the grieving process but finding this site opened my eyes up to the possibility that michael just might still be here in physical form. If it is proven he is not then i will accept it for good this time and start back with my grieving. All i want is for michael too be happy in the end it is what he deserves and with him being happy makes me happy. I would also like to mention something else uri gellar is a fraud he is not a real psychic or able to bend spoons with his mind i can't believe this guy he is a joke to me please do not take this person seriously and another thing i do not think michael and uri where as close anymore as uri would like people to think as he sold michael to bashir for that horrible interview that scum is just trying to ride on michael's fame.

I will never let you part as you’re always in my heart.

7:13 am
July 27, 2009


PepaBCN

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jewell said:

Post edited 6:03 am – July 27, 2009 by jewell


If i was a family member and he did indeed pass away,

I would not waste one minute of my precious time to try to address a hoax…

there would be no reason in it .


the die-hard hoax believers would not believe it …..

and would think that they were in on it and trying to cover themselves…



I completely agree with this explanation!


And I also think Jackson family didn't love too much MJ. He was just their money source. At least, that's what I thought when I saw them so quite and calmed. The only one who sure loved MJ was his mother!

7:25 am
July 27, 2009


jaded

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You also have to look at the family's past history…

when have they EVER addressed ANY rumors? why start now?….

unless they are being interviewed they may answer a question regarding it then, but to just come out in a press conference on tv and address it?? nah, thats against the rules of public relations anyways…

believe NOTHING; question EVERYTHING

7:33 am
July 27, 2009


Nancy

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If there is no hoax the family  would say: Here is the proof that it's not a hoax.We don't wanna pple to think that it's hoax and to lying themselves.

And they would open tha casket.

I just don't understand why they didn't open the casket in the memorial like James Brown.If on him was did an autopsy WHAT? They don't do an autopsy on his eyes of which we would be disgusted,right? So they do an autopsy on the body and after that they sew up him and dress him so there is no reason to don't show his body except if there is no body…

sorry for my english..

“So Keep The Faith Don’t Let Nobody Turn You ‘Round You Gotta Know When It’s Good To Go To Get Your Dreams Up Off The Ground Keep The Faith, Baby, Yea Because It’s Just A Matter Of Time Before Your Confidence Will Win Out Believe In Yourself

7:40 am
July 27, 2009


jewell

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carelesslove46 said:

Yes, I agree with you too Jewell and Mysterylady..I also read that post by the 'unknown' member…MY GOD! That poor soul was really shot down..I am beginning to think that this site isn't really a healthy one for the mind..There are some real fanatics here..At first coming here was fun..We could toss idea's around..But god help anyone if they actually believed Michael to be dead..He is dead..There is no hoax..The only mystery is how he died. He would not do this to his fans..His family would have needed to be in on the hoax but to ask them to carry the secret to their graves is just ridiculous..What happens when Mike's kids grow up and get married??..Or find life partners??..Do they keep the 'secret' from them or do they share the secret??. I came here wondering about the possibility of  a 'death hoax', however,  common sense prevails..Michael IS living but in a different way..Uri Geller says Michael is pure energy now. These are my belief's also..But each to his own..There seems to be some people here with their sanity hanging by a thread..Maybe this whole site was a bad idea…Take care..xx


Yes, Careless…

I agree with everything that you said!!


To find the truth… I like to play Devil’s Advocate… Please don’t let that upset you!

10:15 am
July 27, 2009


Girl21GER

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I think the family will never comment the hoax stuff. That way they would only spread the news about those sites wider and wider. If they don't talk about it, it doesn't exist for them.

*~*Don’t judge a person, unless you have spoken with them one on one*~* ~*~If a lie is told often enough, you start believing it~*~

10:32 am
July 27, 2009


Hideaway

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Zembla said:

…the Jacksons…WHY won't they make an effort to deny the supposed hoax?


The Jackson's could be busy keeping their story straight and all their energy's focused on that. 

It's more pressing for them to ensure Michael is safely hidden & protected before they bother reassurring the fans or proving anything to hoax questioners.  Family 1st, fans 2nd, right? (I hate referencing LaToya, but she did say that at the memorial).

Or they could be so embroiled in who may have murdered Michael, his still-to-come autopsy results & where the HECK his body is, that addressing conspiracy theories seems small potatoes, not worth their time.

Of course, they also may not want to deny the “Michael is alive” theory because they don't want to bring more attention to it, attracting even more people suspicious of the tangled web surrounding his “death.”  Ignore us & maybe we'll go away.

Anderson Cooper 29Jul09: “Joe Jackson does not make sense when he talks. I’m serious. I’ve never heard someone who makes less sense when he talks. It’s like a Rorschach test. You can pick out anything you want from what Joe Jackson says.”

9:34 pm
July 27, 2009


BelieverAngel90

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Post edited 2:35 pm – July 28, 2009 by BelieverAngel90


jewell said:

Post edited 6:03 am – July 27, 2009 by jewell


If i was a family member and he did indeed pass away,

I would not waste one minute of my precious time to try to address a hoax…

there would be no reason in it .


the die-hard hoax believers would not believe it …..

and would think that they were in on it and trying to cover themselves…



I agree with Jewell … why would the family have something to Hide - if their love one is passed or deceased ??? They have no reason for it in the technical sense.

“Michael … I understand … I am sad I never got to talk to you … like a normal person.” *Sweet Sweet Earth Angel A.K.A. Michael*

10:05 pm
July 27, 2009


sthepoet

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Not trying to be nasty here, I do believe there are ppl here that are obcessed with bringing MJ back if he truly is gone….. but his family has NOTHING to gain by stopping the rumors of a death hoax, DUH! Would everytone still buy the MJ records and memory things like they are now? The estate is growing by leaps and bounds, they have absolutely NO reason to clear up a thing, they are just sheltering the kids from the maddness that seems to be us.

10:35 pm
July 27, 2009


Tenderoni

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jewell said:

Post edited 6:03 am – July 27, 2009 by jewell


If i was a family member and he did indeed pass away,

I would not waste one minute of my precious time to try to address a hoax…

there would be no reason in it .


the die-hard hoax believers would not believe it …..

and would think that they were in on it and trying to cover themselves…



Agreed.  Well put.

12:20 am
August 3, 2009


iJustCantStopLovinMike

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jewell said:

Post edited 11:03 pm – July 27, 2009 by jewell


If i was a family member and he did indeed pass away,

I would not waste one minute of my precious time to try to address a hoax…

there would be no reason in it .


the die-hard hoax believers would not believe it …..

and would think that they were in on it and trying to cover themselves…




well that's a pretty good point… agreed

If nobody in the world loves him, I do ❤

12:40 am
August 3, 2009


serendipity

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Oh well, I believe that real truth is not supposed to be a complex thing. If a person dies, he dies. The cause of death is made known. We see the dead body. We see people grieve/cry…The dead gets buried…It's so obvious why we believe MJ's “death” is a hoax.

5:41 am
August 3, 2009


Sosh

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serendipity said:

Oh well, I believe that real truth is not supposed to be a complex thing. If a person dies, he dies. The cause of death is made known. We see the dead body. We see people grieve/cry…The dead gets buried…It's so obvious why we believe MJ's “death” is a hoax.


I agree,The family will be aware of sites like this and people like us who believe it all is a hoax. If they wan't to put this all to an end, they should release some proper evidence to the media.


7:57 am
August 3, 2009


curiouslycurious

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Post edited 12:58 am – August 4, 2009 by curiouslycurious


jewell said:

Post edited 11:03 pm – July 27, 2009 by jewell


If i was a family member and he did indeed pass away,

I would not waste one minute of my precious time to try to address a hoax…

there would be no reason in it .


the die-hard hoax believers would not believe it …..

and would think that they were in on it and trying to cover themselves…



I totally agree with you.  If my family member died I would want justice and not lose focus by entertaining hoax rumors.  It would be too insulting.

Anyway, any move either way could fuel some portion of a 'hoax believer' community.  If the family doesn't say anything some will say 'why not', if they do say something some people will think the family 'protests too much'.  Addressing it is pointless and I'm sure they need to focus their energies elsewhere.

I still believe there is a chance of a hoax.  If anyone had the resources it would be MJ. Or if some entity, government or otherwise wanted to conduct an exercise in making someone dissapear, for either benevolent or sinister reasons, it probably wouldn't be ethical or even likely but I'm sure it could happen.

But I don't think the family's silence is definite support for belief in a hoax.  I hope they don't get questioned by the press on it because until there is some actual real, submittable evidence to bring this idea up would be unthinkably insensitive.

“You don’t have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body.” C.S. Lewis

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