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7:30 am August 2, 2009
| Thetruth
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Many people have been puzzuled, to say the least, by the way Joe Jackson (MJ father) has behaved after his son's death. He has not shown any sympaticy and there are pitchure of him laughing his brain out only days after MJ death. He even promote his new record company in interviews rather then speaking and honouring his son.
Some of you belivie that the reason why he is acting like this is because he know that he is not dead, well I have a diffrent theory. Lets face it MJ and Joe have ever had a good father son realationship, yeah yeah I know that without Joe Michael would not become who he is today. How many times do you think Joe has said it to him? More than necessary.
I have some Phone Conversation of Michael and a friend of his called Glenda (it was her husband who recorded the phones beacause he thought that she was having a relationship with Michael), where he talks about his realationship with his father. Just listen and you will have a deeper view of the real realationship between Michael and Joe Jackson.
Remember this is a private conversation to people who feel bad listing to it I have just one thing to say: DON'T LISTEN!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..re=related
I just want to add that this is 100 % genuin and these tapes were used in this trial in 2005 to prove to the jury that he was not gay and he have had relationship with women.
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7:33 am August 2, 2009
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It is disrespectful to post Michael's private conversations that he didnt want people to hear. Really it is.
Joe Jackson and Michael Jackson made amends in their relationship a long time ago. They were back on track as of 2002 or so. These tapes are from around 1992. Michael had nothing ill to say of his father after the Bashir interview was aired so please research information before presenting “theories.”
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7:36 am August 2, 2009
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If they did why isnt he in the will?
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7:39 am August 2, 2009
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Thetruth said:
If they did why isnt he in the will?
What good reason does he have to be in the will? My father wont be in my will. Wills are not made to judge people's relationships. Michael trusted his mother with his money. Just because he didnt trust his father with millions of dollars doesnt mean he didnt love him.
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7:41 am August 2, 2009
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I have no doubt that he did indeed love his father, all I am saying is that Joe is heartless son of a bitch that take advantage of his son fame and money, but yeah sure he loved his son
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7:48 am August 2, 2009
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Wow. So what did Joe Jackson do to you? To judge someone by looking in from the outside is ridiculous. The name calling is also childish. You're judging Michael's father the same way the media does Michael. Calling him a freak, weird, and wacko based on what they see from the outside looking in. Thats a childish assertion and you theory is wrong and very off base with reality. Michael himself said he respected his father and began to understand his actions. A “heartless son of a bitch” would never make efforts to mend their relationship or try to save Michael from some of the dangerous forces around him. I'm sorry,but you're wrong. Dead wrong.
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7:49 am August 2, 2009
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I am not a fan og Joe either – I don't think anyone could get over the physical and emotional abuse adn certainly if he/she suffered as much as Michael did during his childhood. that's why Michael said during his interview with Bashir that he needed the bodyguards to be with him when Joe is around coz he was still afraid of his father. How sad is that – not being able to enjoy a normal conversation with ur dad without getting freaked out.
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7:51 am August 2, 2009
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Post edited 12:51 am – August 3, 2009 by MyBelovedMJ
Thetruth said:
Many people have been puzzuled, to say the least, by the way Joe Jackson (MJ father) has behaved after his son's death. He has not shown any sympaticy and there are pitchure of him laughing his brain out only days after MJ death. He even promote his new record company in interviews rather then speaking and honouring his son.
Some of you belivie that the reason why he is acting like this is because he know that he is not dead, well I have a diffrent theory. Lets face it MJ and Joe have ever had a good father son realationship, yeah yeah I know that without Joe Michael would not become who he is today. How many times do you think Joe has said it to him? More than necessary.
I have some Phone Conversation of Michael and a friend of his called Glenda (it was her husband who recorded the phones beacause he thought that she was having a relationship with Michael), where he talks about his realationship with his father. Just listen and you will have a deeper view of the real realationship between Michael and Joe Jackson.
Remember this is a private conversation to people who feel bad listing to it I have just one thing to say: DON'T LISTEN!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..re=related
I just want to add that this is 100 % genuin and these tapes were used in this trial in 2005 to prove to the jury that he was not gay and he have had relationship with women.
I dont care how bad their relationship was. Joe is NOT mourning Mike, what so ever.
I dont wanna listen to that conversation, it find it rude to Michael to exploit his privacy. Isent it enough that the media does it.??
I think this is very DISRESPECTFUL to Michael.
Im sorry, how the hell can you UNDERSTAND Joe.? Noone else does
You can say what you want, but that is not the proof of anything, in my opinion Joe is SCUM. He hurt his beautiful baby, and yeah mabye Michael wouldent have become, who he became, without that, but he was ruind for life. Trust me i know what im talking about, my father did the same thing to me, when i was a child.
There is NOTHING Genuine about Joe.
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7:51 am August 2, 2009
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Well sorry if you dont like but thats my opinoin I am sticking to it, I respect your opinoin respect mine
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7:53 am August 2, 2009
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MJSmile4Us said:
I am not a fan og Joe either – I don't think anyone could get over the physical and emotional abuse adn certainly if he/she suffered as much as Michael did during his childhood. that's why Michael said during his interview with Bashir that he needed the bodyguards to be with him when Joe is around coz he was still afraid of his father. How sad is that – not being able to enjoy a normal conversation with ur dad without getting freaked out.
He did get over it. Please look at Michael Jackson's Geraldo interview and how he admires his father. And here's an excerpt from his biography:
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7:55 am August 2, 2009
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You can say what you want about Mr.Jackson,but that doesnt change the way him and Michael felt about each other
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7:58 am August 2, 2009
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Michael was a forgiving man he has a good soul and a heart made out of gold, he forgave his father although the damaged has already been done…
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8:03 am August 2, 2009
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Yes and if his father was a “heartless son of a bitch,” Michael wouldnt want to mend their relationship. But he did. And thats the bottom line.
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8:05 am August 2, 2009
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Always4MJ said:
MJSmile4Us said:
I am not a fan og Joe either – I don't think anyone could get over the physical and emotional abuse adn certainly if he/she suffered as much as Michael did during his childhood. that's why Michael said during his interview with Bashir that he needed the bodyguards to be with him when Joe is around coz he was still afraid of his father. How sad is that – not being able to enjoy a normal conversation with ur dad without getting freaked out.
He did get over it. Please look at Michael Jackson's Geraldo interview and how he admires his father. And here's an excerpt from his biography:
I hope this is true coz all I ever wish is that he was (and still is) happy with his father being around. if he did really forgive him I admire Michael even more for him being brave as well for his big heart and the ability to overcome such an ordeal. If I was ever thrown to the wall by my father I would have been traumatized. I love u Michael wherever u r
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8:06 am August 2, 2009
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Always4MJ said:
You can say what you want about Mr.Jackson,but that doesnt change the way him and Michael felt about each other
Who said anything about that?
Ofcause Mike admired him. But trust me, there was WAY more behind those feelings aswell
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8:11 am August 2, 2009
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MyBelovedMJ said:
Always4MJ said:
You can say what you want about Mr.Jackson,but that doesnt change the way him and Michael felt about each other
Who said anything about that?
Ofcause Mike admired him. But trust me, there was WAY more behind those feelings aswell
This whole thread is about that. People analyzing their relationship without being knowledgeable of everything in those regards. The truth of the matter is they had their problems, Michael grew up, they moved on and they love each other. “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.”
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8:18 am August 2, 2009
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Post edited 1:18 am – August 3, 2009 by MyBelovedMJ
Always4MJ said:
MyBelovedMJ said:
Always4MJ said:
You can say what you want about Mr.Jackson,but that doesnt change the way him and Michael felt about each other
Who said anything about that?
Ofcause Mike admired him. But trust me, there was WAY more behind those feelings aswell
This whole thread is about that. People analyzing their relationship without being knowledgeable of everything in those regards. The truth of the matter is they had their problems, Michael grew up, they moved on and they love each other. “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.”
I know that. I know Mike forgave him, and moved on. It was very Brave of him in my opinion.
So I guess you are áre more Knowledgeable about their relationship that the rest of us are???
We all have our deffrent opinions
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8:20 am August 2, 2009
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I did not make this post to start a fight, I love michael from the deepest of my heart, but I think everyone here should respect eachother opinoin and not come up with something that contradicts the other people opinoin. peace and love
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8:21 am August 2, 2009
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MyBelovedMJ said:
Post edited 1:18 am – August 3, 2009 by MyBelovedMJ
Always4MJ said:
MyBelovedMJ said:
Always4MJ said:
You can say what you want about Mr.Jackson,but that doesnt change the way him and Michael felt about each other
Who said anything about that?
Ofcause Mike admired him. But trust me, there was WAY more behind those feelings aswell
This whole thread is about that. People analyzing their relationship without being knowledgeable of everything in those regards. The truth of the matter is they had their problems, Michael grew up, they moved on and they love each other. “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.”
I know that. I know Mike forgave him, and moved on. It was very Brave of him in my opinion.
So I guess you are áre more Knowledgeable about their relationship that the rest of us are???
We all have our deffrent opinions
I would say so. To be knowledgeable on the subject would be to acknowledge all known aspects of the information and not just the tidbits that prove our point. It's really not about opinions for me. Its more about the truth. I cant have an opinion on someone else's relationship. What right do I have. I just want to bring all sides of information to the forefront.
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8:31 am August 2, 2009
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Always4MJ said:
MyBelovedMJ said:
Post edited 1:18 am – August 3, 2009 by MyBelovedMJ
Always4MJ said:
MyBelovedMJ said:
Always4MJ said:
You can say what you want about Mr.Jackson,but that doesnt change the way him and Michael felt about each other
Who said anything about that?
Ofcause Mike admired him. But trust me, there was WAY more behind those feelings aswell
This whole thread is about that. People analyzing their relationship without being knowledgeable of everything in those regards. The truth of the matter is they had their problems, Michael grew up, they moved on and they love each other. “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.”
I know that. I know Mike forgave him, and moved on. It was very Brave of him in my opinion.
So I guess you are áre more Knowledgeable about their relationship that the rest of us are???
We all have our deffrent opinions
I would say so. To be knowledgeable on the subject would be to acknowledge all known aspects of the information and not just the tidbits that prove our point. It's really not about opinions for me. Its more about the truth. I cant have an opinion on someone else's relationship. What right do I have. I just want to bring all sides of information to the forefront.
So would I
But what I ment was, if you know Mike in person??
I still dont like Joe.
But I admire that Michael was brave enough to forgive him, I wish i could be as brave as Mike and forgive my father.
Mabye I will when i get older
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8:35 am August 2, 2009
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Aww I'm sorry you dont like someone that you dont know.
As for my relationship with Michael thats another story not for this thread
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8:38 am August 2, 2009
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Always4MJ said:
Aww I'm sorry you dont like someone that you dont know.
As for my relationship with Michael thats another story not for this thread
Sure.
Im getting a good laugh out of all of this.
Who said something about me dont like someone I dont know??
I think Mabye I need some sleep now
Im confused
LOL
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8:43 am August 2, 2009
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8:47 am August 2, 2009
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Always4MJ said:
lol i see
What I dont understand is this.
Why does people who “apparently” Know Mike post in here??
I just want to know that..
Seems weird to me.
I know that Joe loves Mike, ofcause he does.
But the reason I dont like him, (like that) Is for what he did to Michael
Even thoug Mike forgave him, and i think thats awesome.
Joe is not all bad, I know that.
But I still dont get why he wasent more upset, and desided to talk about his record company, instedt of Michael.
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8:56 am August 2, 2009
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MyBelovedMJ said:
Always4MJ said:
lol i see
What I dont understand is this.
Why does people who “apparently” Know Mike post in here??
I just want to know that..
Seems weird to me.
I know that Joe loves Mike, ofcause he does.
But the reason I dont like him, (like that) Is for what he did to Michael
Even thoug Mike forgave him, and i think thats awesome.
Joe is not all bad, I know that.
But I still dont get why he wasent more upset, and desided to talk about his record company, instedt of Michael.
LOL. I didnt say Michael was my lover, cousin, or anything of that nature. Please dont make assumptions. I just said that I'm not speaking on my relationship with Michael. That could easily be one of fan>artist, or artist>groupie. It could be anything lol
The funny thing about emotions is that they affect everyone in different ways. You cant say he wasnt upset because he didnt display what “upset” is supposed to look like. Look around at a funeral; not everyone is bawling their eyes out. Joe Jackson is not a man of visible emotion, which is the same for a lot of people. But if he indeed was on television crying his eyes out what would you have thought? Probably that it was fake. So it's a lose/lose situation.
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8:57 am August 2, 2009
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I will never let you part as you’re always in my heart.
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8:59 am August 2, 2009
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Always4MJ said:
MyBelovedMJ said:
Always4MJ said:
lol i see
What I dont understand is this.
Why does people who “apparently” Know Mike post in here??
I just want to know that..
Seems weird to me.
I know that Joe loves Mike, ofcause he does.
But the reason I dont like him, (like that) Is for what he did to Michael
Even thoug Mike forgave him, and i think thats awesome.
Joe is not all bad, I know that.
But I still dont get why he wasent more upset, and desided to talk about his record company, instedt of Michael.
LOL. I didnt say Michael was my lover, cousin, or anything of that nature. Please dont make assumptions. I just said that I'm not speaking on my relationship with Michael. That could easily be one of fan>artist, or artist>groupie. It could be anything lol
The funny thing about emotions is that they affect everyone in different ways. You cant say he wasnt upset because he didnt display what “upset” is supposed to look like. Look around at a funeral; not everyone is bawling their eyes out. Joe Jackson is not a man of visible emotion, which is the same for a lot of people. But if he indeed was on television crying his eyes out what would you have thought? Probably that it was fake. So it's a lose/lose situation.
Did i say anything about you beeing his lover, or something like that..
As far as i can see i didnt. I just asked a question.
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9:08 am August 2, 2009
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And I just answered. You assumed that I “knew” Michael by my response; you responded like I said he was my lover or something of that nature(which I didnt). Being suspicious of people on the site isnt going to help this big mystery. I'm just trying to be another poster on this site by offering whatever have to give
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9:11 am August 2, 2009
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Always4MJ said:
And I just answered. You assumed that I “knew” Michael by my response; you responded like I said he was my lover or something of that nature(which I didnt). Being suspicious of people on the site isnt going to help this big mystery. I'm just trying to be another poster on this site by offering whatever have to give
Okey I appoligize then If I wrote something you misunderstood.
Like so many others on this site, im not getting much sleep.
Sorry mate.
Mabye i should go to bed now LOL
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9:13 am August 2, 2009
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MyBelovedMJ said:
Always4MJ said:
And I just answered. You assumed that I “knew” Michael by my response; you responded like I said he was my lover or something of that nature(which I didnt). Being suspicious of people on the site isnt going to help this big mystery. I'm just trying to be another poster on this site by offering whatever have to give
Okey I appoligize then If I wrote something you misunderstood.
Like so many others on this site, im not getting much sleep.
Sorry mate.
Mabye i should go to bed now LOL
Thats okay. Please dont deprive yourself of sleep! I apologize if you dont understand some of my expressions and colloquialisms . I noticed a bit of a cultural disconnect on this board
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