Michael Jackson Hoax Death

jedigoddess said:

I think people on this site need to dig deeper into the theory of Illuninati and the music industry. It is very very interesting even if you do not believe it. Research and keep an open mind. Could this be what Latoya meant when she said there is a Larger consipacy of people who may have wanted to do MJ harm?

I suspect that Sony had got somethin to do with Michael's 'death' (if he is dead of course)or the reason behind his death hoax plan (I really believe that he's still alive). In 2002, Michael publicly spoke against teh company for mistreating the African-American artists including his long-time friend James Brown and one of the reports even said that Michael called the CEO of Sony a racist. Plus the reason why I believe that MJ is still alive is that there have been reports that he was suspecting that someone was out to get him (I think he knew it was Sony) and he would have done womethin about it instead of doing nothing. imo it may be possible for him to be working with the US government explaining the delay in his autopsy report release and an ever so long time to charge Murray (it's even possible that he coudl get away with MJ's 'murder'). PLUS there are so many inconsistencies that surround his 'death' as we all have been discussing ever since his 'passing'. And now that I think about it, Prsident Obama may have showed little emotion in his public interview concerning Michael's death coz he knows very well that Michael's is not dead.

but there is one thing that makes me believe that Micahel may have died – woudl Michael have allowed Debbie to get visitation rights?  

And if he is alive then how can he se his children with their every move followed and their whereabouts checked on every second? even if he does come out om disguise, people might suspect who the man is that hangs around Prince, Paris and Blanket frequently?

i also do not think he has died. There is a much much larger influence in the music industry than we can possibly imagine. I have watched the videos of MJ and how he felt about Sony and the industry as it is today and he was right. He was against all that is going on as are many other music artists. Look into this Illuninati thing and you will se that there are influneces beyond control. It was stated in an article somewhere I just read that MJ refused to perform and write songs anymore as he had discovered this influence and was NOT going to be a part of it so he stopped.

I am hoping that all that has happened is his way of bringing down the people involved or that he has some kind of plan to expose and get rid of those who are wanting to control artist creativity and freedom of thier creativity. Look into it and research and you will be perhaps a bit surprised? This was brought up before but as I am quiet and have been doing my own research I see the need to look into this further not just by myself but everyone needs to have a little enlightenment.

Knowledge is power

answers said:

I agree with the Debbie visitation rights thing-

But then again he never said they she wasn't allowed

- she is the one who didn't want contact.

Why does Debbie's name make me cringe???? Not the Name Debbie just HER.

IDK I may be wrong but from looking at his 2002 will, Michael seemed to dislike her in that he specifically pointed out that he ddn't want Debbie to be a part of hid chidren's lives and signed next to the paragraph that said it. And it's even more strange if Debbie refused to see her despite the fact that Michael was opened to teh idea of his children getting to know their mother. This proves that she didn't care about the children -I mean why now and not back then when she was invited to get to know her son and daughter? If  I was to believe what the media is saying about the custody battle ending with no money involvement, what does Debbie want? it might just be me but it's difficult to know her true motive for seeing Prince and Paris. And how coudl we even be sure no more payment was involved – we get fed what the media tells us.

shikster  I would like your response to my post. NOT about d rowe but about the illuminati idea. thanks

MJSmile4Us said:

answers said:

I agree with the Debbie visitation rights thing-

But then again he never said they she wasn't allowed

- she is the one who didn't want contact.

Why does Debbie's name make me cringe???? Not the Name Debbie just HER.

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IDK I may be wrong but from looking at his 2002 will, Michael seemed to dislike her in that he specifically pointed out that he ddn't want Debbie to be a part of hid chidren's lives and signed next to the paragraph that said it. And it's even more strange if Debbie refused to see her despite the fact that Michael was opened to teh idea of his children getting to know their mother. This proves that she didn't care about the children -I mean why now and not back then when she was invited to get to know her son and daughter? If  I was to believe what the media is saying about the custody battle ending with no money involvement, what does Debbie want? it might just be me but it's difficult to know her true motive for seeing Prince and Paris. And how coudl we even be sure no more payment was involved – we get fed what the media tells us.

@ MJSMILE4US-Very true about the media!

The illuminati freak me out- I have read about them a few times and had nightmares so I am not suprised if they were linked.

I just watched the video concerning the illuminati and I agree with Soleilprincess – it's somewhat freaky.

But to come to think of it many of artists that were going so well died abruptly -like Aaliyah who died from plane crash but could it be possible that illuminati was behind it. I really hope Michael isn't one of the victims. Initially I thought that the US givernment was helping him bring down Sony or whoever may be out to kill him but what if illuminati had somehow ordered the government to 'end' MJ's life?

and maybe Murray is hired by either Sony (or AEG) or the illuminati to kill MJ and it would be more plausible if he gets to get away with it or be given a minor sentence (but evem if he gets say 3 years in prison, how r we to know that he really went to prison unless we visit him in the cell and see with our eyes?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..89SB59DT34

jedigoddess said:

MJ was NOT a puppet. That is why he felt persecuted. He knew about this “NEW WORLD ORDER” and what they wanted from him. He wanted no part in this as do many other artists. This is scary stuff but if you do research you will see that the media, the banks, the music industry, and much more can be control by the few who have the control. I believe MJ saw this as I believe he was a very smart and informed person.

As far fetched as it may seem, thse who have the money and the power are able to control whatever and whomever they wish. Those who go against them are subject to punishment such as bogus child molestation trials, fabricated media stories, emphasis on drug addictions and what ever other stories may be needed to discredit them in the public eye. Is this not what is happening now?

Are we not getting bombarded by the Michael jackson drug stories to the point that it is almost unbeleivable? The stories we are being fed are ridiculous. If the media is correct and this man was taking the amount of drugs we are being told about he would never have survived this long.

Do more research and you may find facts that wake you up to the nature of our society today. ilprincipe you are correct look further into the Bilderberg Group

I can only hope that MJ has gone into hiding as I said before to try and get away from all this or to expose the music industry's corrupt nature . You may be surprised if you look into who owns the majority of the major record labels.

Yes….as my siggy says

Ph my God.  My post disappeared.  I just spent about 15 minutes on it.

Post edited 1:49 am – August 3, 2009 by iloveyoumore

Soleilprincess said:

I agree with you jedigoddess. I watched this documentary called “Wake up call: New world order” on google video and it was one of the most scarriest documentary film I've ever seen. Life was so much simple before I watched this video.

Ok, I am really quite frustrated because I just spent about 15 minutes typing a post here and it has totally disappeared.  Very strange.

But anyway, so I have nto kept up with the illuminati/MJ connection theory, but I happened to click on this link, and the underlined statment above really struck me as odd.  I had just gotten through readiing the tarot thread and remembered that the phrase “Wake Up Call” was repeated by the OP, Empathy, numerous times throughout the thread.  Here is the link to the thread:

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxd…..is-section

And here are the mentions of “Wake Up Call” by Empathy:

– Im feeling as though some things were necessary because I wrote a thread on my forum called WAKE UP CALL…I think we need to pay attention to the word WAKE UP.

– if it is not the case and I have misinterpreted things – then KEEP HIS WORD ALIVE and I will print up the WAKE UP CALL FOR YOU.

– I was being given a parallel to jesus – a wake up call – which I did write in posts here because that is what I felt – nothing I can do about that. It was there.

– But Michaels 'death' promoted my post Michael Jackson – Wake up Call. You will have read that – it has the essense of what Michael was trying to say and do in society. He is not Jesus but he serves us with a message.

– Here is what I think is a special message. Its from my forum and its dated 14 July.

MICHAEL JACKSON – WAKE UP CALL.

– Michael Jacksons death deep in my soul means one thing.

– Its a WAKE UP CALL

– Michael Jackson spread a message to people. A wake up call – there are some people who resonate with that and need to start giving of themselves to support that call.

Okay…weird, now that I read the above post I am responding to here.

Even weirder when a poster – BerlinBabyGermany, AKA Jim Panse, that has never said anything negative towards anyone in this forum, posts the following response to the OP, Empathy, on that thread:

Empathy said:

If you love somebody – set them free –

Empathyx

Jim Panse said:

There you go… but then again there's a big gap between theory and praxis, isn`t there?

I rather you didn't give me any of your treehugging love and light answers or any of that bs.

I know what Love and Light is and what it stands for. And you are not representing it AT ALL!

It`s rather the opposite. And you know it.

iloveyoumore said:

Wow, Jim ….I've never heard you say anything negative to date to anyone — what gives?

OKAY — is this weird or what??  This post better show up this time.

clover said:

I picked up on the Jim Panse (Berlin Baby whatever)thing, very odd. I'm going to watch that vid on YT now

I am going to watch it, too.

Because Jim/BerlinBaby has been nothing but one big ball of positive energy, never a harsh word to anyone…Toto, we're not in Kansas anymore.

The parallels are uncanny,but this isnt the root of what is going on right now imo.

Hi! I am glad you guys are posting on this topic, as I have tried to get this conversation going before.  This illuminati thing goes deeper than I think any of us can imagine.  Here is a video that I thought did a really good job with the topic.  There are several parts to it but it's really interesting!  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..re=related

My greatest hope is that somehow MJ outsmarted them.  I have heard that he worked closely with Faction Two (The group who has tried to STOP the New World Order) and that he actually helped uncover a huge pedofile ring.  He was such a good person and so smart…I think he knew what they were going to try to do to him and escaped!  I just don't want you all to think that the illuminati is somehow unstoppable (although I do believe they killed many beloved artists, including Cobain and 2pac).  There are people working to stop it, and I believe that MJ was one of them!  Please watch the video though. This topic has gotten a lot of attention recentlly.  Even heidi and spencer(aka speidi) seem to have “woken up” to the idea. 

If this movie thing does happen, I hope he unviels a huge movie about all of the conspiracy that goes on with the illuminati and NWO in the music industry. 

Also, I'm not sure if you saw the south park episode on Britney Spears, but they kind of delve into this theory a little bit.  It's actually quite creepy if you read up on where they got their info!  This whole thing is making my head spin and I sincerely hope we uncover the truth. 

I do think that MJ set eiither set up this website himself or saw to it that someone set it up in case he died so that we could uncover the truth about what happened to him.  JMO though!  Keep researching and looking for clues and the truth will come out!!!! 

BTW, the fact that the one snippet of the rehearsal they released was “they don't care about us” was NO MISTAKE!  Listen to the song.  It is very telling!

My Dad said tonight, what if MJ got into politics, he could topple governments….

I really wish he had.  If you believe the illuminati stuff, though…the government is tightly controlled by the New World Order… I would've voted for him though.  All this is starting to make me think…I wonder if that New York Senator was involved in the NWO…maybe he was part of a plan to bring Michael down…I really thought his remarks were pretty hateful and odd for a politician….

In the book Holy Blood, Holy Grail allegedly the Knights Templar held documentation to prove Jesus didn't die, and that Lazarus' death was actually staged.  No connection really other than the Knights Templar were basically the start of the New World Order.  So they have had hundereds of years to perfect it.

On a slightly different point Holy Blood, Holy Grail is a great book even if you don't believe it; it does make you at least think “What if?”