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7:48 am August 3, 2009
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7:52 am August 3, 2009
| SeeingClues
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I guess we are done here now? He can't come back now as it would be illegal.
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7:53 am August 3, 2009
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I seem to read that it is paid from Michael,s own estate doesent make it illegal right,its his own money,or am I wrong here?
dont know american law sorry
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7:54 am August 3, 2009
| SeeingClues
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I guess do we focus on figuring out if he was murdered now? Ugh..the insurance payout was what I was hoping wouldn't happen.
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7:55 am August 3, 2009
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life insurance paid out with no cause of death? I don't think so!
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7:55 am August 3, 2009
| mir26
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doonbuggy said:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..son_estate
hey I get a different story now when I click this link
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7:56 am August 3, 2009
| souza81
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Hmmmm, it's media guys. And I don't know how it works in the USA, but in Holland it's ompossible to pay out a life insurance if the COD is unclear. I think we shouldn't pay that much attention to it, maybe Jewell can find something about wether it's possible or not.
But if it really is paid, yes than I think we're done her.
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7:56 am August 3, 2009
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OMG…it JUST changed…it was totally about the life insurance being paid out…
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7:56 am August 3, 2009
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Well eek.. the article just changed lol
This is what was there a bit ago:
Filing: Michael Jackson's life insurance paid out
LOS ANGELES – Court filings state the administrators of Michael Jackson's estate have received the King of Pop's life insurance proceeds.
The records, filed Friday in Los Angeles, are redacted and don't indicate how much the policy paid out. The filings state that money designated for Jackson's three children has been received by a trust being handled by special administrators of the singer's estate.
The filings are meant to augment a petition to give the children a monthly stipend. Another filing indicates Jackson's mother, Katherine, is also eligible for some benefits from the policy.
The administrators are also seeking an allowance for Katherine Jackson, who is now caring for the children.
A court hearing is scheduled Monday on whether the allowances will be granted.
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7:57 am August 3, 2009
| souza81
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mir26 said:
I seem to read that it is paid from Michael,s own estate doesent make it illegal right,its his own money,or am I wrong here?
dont know american law sorry
Oh right, you have a point there!
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7:57 am August 3, 2009
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SeeingClues said:
OMG…it JUST changed…it was totally about the life insurance being paid out…
Yeah luckily i had the window still open.. (pasted it above)
wtf lol
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7:59 am August 3, 2009
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but the fact that the insurance company paid it out is bad though right?
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8:00 am August 3, 2009
| souza81
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Huh????!!!! They have changed that fast! It's a different article indeed….
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8:00 am August 3, 2009
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the fact that the insurance company paid it out is bad though right?
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8:00 am August 3, 2009
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Post edited 1:01 am – August 4, 2009 by ballongiraf
doonbuggy said:
Well eek.. the article just changed lol
This is what was there a bit ago:
Filing: Michael Jackson's life insurance paid out
LOS ANGELES – Court filings state the administrators of Michael Jackson's estate have received the King of Pop's life insurance proceeds.
The records, filed Friday in Los Angeles, are redacted and don't indicate how much the policy paid out. The filings state that money designated for Jackson's three children has been received by a trust being handled by special administrators of the singer's estate.
The filings are meant to augment a petition to give the children a monthly stipend. Another filing indicates Jackson's mother, Katherine, is also eligible for some benefits from the policy.
The administrators are also seeking an allowance for Katherine Jackson, who is now caring for the children.
A court hearing is scheduled Monday on whether the allowances will be granted.
So basically Katherine is gonna get the monthly pay she asked for to care for the kids? And the money came from a “trust being handled by special administrators of the singer's estate”? = the monthly pay comes from MJ himself and not an insurance company?
Im just guessing here – ii dont pretend to know anything about american law, LOL
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8:01 am August 3, 2009
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oh damn the life insurance – I feel like what I felt when I first heard MJ's news all over again….now how am I ever going to get any sleep tonight?
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8:01 am August 3, 2009
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This here shows how fast the media get to a conclusion, without having supported fact
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8:02 am August 3, 2009
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well…we tried… now I guess we have to refocus and find out what/who killed MJ… this sux!!!!!
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8:04 am August 3, 2009
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ballongiraf said:
Post edited 1:01 am – August 4, 2009 by ballongiraf
doonbuggy said:
Well eek.. the article just changed lol
This is what was there a bit ago:
Filing: Michael Jackson's life insurance paid out
LOS ANGELES – Court filings state the administrators of Michael Jackson's estate have received the King of Pop's life insurance proceeds.
The records, filed Friday in Los Angeles, are redacted and don't indicate how much the policy paid out. The filings state that money designated for Jackson's three children has been received by a trust being handled by special administrators of the singer's estate.
The filings are meant to augment a petition to give the children a monthly stipend. Another filing indicates Jackson's mother, Katherine, is also eligible for some benefits from the policy.
The administrators are also seeking an allowance for Katherine Jackson, who is now caring for the children.
A court hearing is scheduled Monday on whether the allowances will be granted.
So basically Katherine is gonna get the monthly pay she asked for to care for the kids? And the money came from a “trust being handled by special administrators of the singer's estate”? = the monthly pay comes from MJ himself and not an insurance company?
Im just guessing here – ii dont pretend to know anything about american law, LOL
thats what i got from it too lol
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8:06 am August 3, 2009
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Post edited 1:08 am – August 4, 2009 by Thetruth
Can somebody tell me what is diffrent with the two changiing articles? In a legal prespectiv?
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8:07 am August 3, 2009
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I don't know.. im confused and sad now.. I guess we will just have to wait and see what happens today.
But as far as the cause of death goes,
just because it all has not been released to the public yet, doesnt mean they don't know?
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8:07 am August 3, 2009
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Well if Michaels estate has indeed recieved a life insurance payout, then that is not a good sign. But then again it is the media, so this could all be fabricated yet again to make it more realistic. What if he really is alive and in hiding because he feared for his life…they have to make everything as believeable as possible I would assume.
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8:07 am August 3, 2009
| souza81
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Post edited 1:12 am – August 4, 2009 by souza81
SeeingClues said:
the fact that the insurance company paid it out is bad though right?
It's not the insurance company, It's MJ himself, or at least his money, or are we wong here? Either way, it's offline now, so I think no worries yet.
There is something I don't understand though, are the kids at grandma's or Rebbie's???
(or with their dad)
Nobody has seen them after the memorial, right?
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8:08 am August 3, 2009
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I am not exactly sure but I don't think life insurance can be paid out without knowing cause of death. I do know that they don't cover suicide. I am not saying that Michael killed himself, but if that happened to be determined then his life insurance couldn't be paid out. As far as I know, they don't know what caused it, so they can't determine accident, murder or suicide. Unless, they DO know and they just aren't telling us. That is a good question about the money coming out of his own estate. I don't know if that would make it illegal or not. But still really would this be progressing in any way if he was still alive?
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8:10 am August 3, 2009
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im confused
if mj life insurance is paid does it mean he is already gone?
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8:10 am August 3, 2009
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souza81 said:
SeeingClues said:
the fact that the insurance company paid it out is bad though right?
It's not the insurance company, It's MJ himself, or at least his money.
There is something I don't understand though, are the kids at grandma's or Rebbie's???
(or with their dad)
Nobody has seen them after the memorial, right?
Thats wrong they have been spotted in the garden in their granmas estate in Encino
http://x17online.com/gallery/v…..070909_X17
It seems like the paparatzi rules the air as well
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8:14 am August 3, 2009
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32…..ent-music/
yes, it is now hitting all the major news sources…
these are private insurance companies that appear to be life insurance policies….
they will pay with a death certificate, no cause of death is needed, because it states deferred on the DC….
If this payout is true, and appears to be recorded in the court records…
then this hoax now turns illegal…. sigh…. not what i was hoping for.
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8:15 am August 3, 2009
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this is what i found somewhere else the money for them seems to come out of Michael,s own estate,and yes mabye jewel can help a little
Katherine Jackson has not had a role in Michael Jackson's business dealings during the past four years, despite her lawyer saying she did.
That's what a source close to the situation tells RadarOnline.com exclusively about statements made by Londell McMillan on The Today Show Monday.
“The past four years Michael has demanded and required that she (Katherine) had a seat at the table for any of his major business assets,” said McMillan, who represents both Katherine and Joe Jackson.
But that statement is refuted by a close source, who says: “There is absolutely no evidence that Katherine played any role in Michael's business dealings. There has been nothing presented in court that Katherine had any role in Michael's 'business assets' as Londell claimed.”
McMillan also indicated the estate's administrators “should have been working together” with him to coordinate requests for cash to be doled out to the Jackson family, including Michael's children. But the source says the estate executors, John Branca and John McClain “asked how much Katherine Jackson, and Michael's three children would need for a monthly allowance. The amount that Katherine requested was agreed upon by the executors without any hesitation. The amount is under court seal and has been redacted from court records.”
McMillan has been attempting to help Katherine get control of the estate through various court filings. Looks like he's not done.
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8:17 am August 3, 2009
| souza81
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Thetruth said:
souza81 said:
SeeingClues said:
the fact that the insurance company paid it out is bad though right?
It's not the insurance company, It's MJ himself, or at least his money.
There is something I don't understand though, are the kids at grandma's or Rebbie's???
(or with their dad)
Nobody has seen them after the memorial, right?
Thats wrong they have been spotted in the garden in their granmas estate in Encino
http://x17online.com/gallery/v…..070909_X17
It seems like the paparatzi rules the air as well
Paris Mourns The Loss Of Her Father
How the *** did they see that? I didn't see her mourning, I just see her trying to hide her face, looks like the woman in Pink is even smiling at the heli…
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8:19 am August 3, 2009
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Ahh, i take it as bad news. I woke up this morning completely convinced he was alive (some encouraging clues I read about yesterday mad me so sure of it) but now I'm back to thinking maybe not. The financial aspect of it all may make it all more complicated and illegal was he to resurface later :-(
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