Michael Jackson Hoax Death

Is the King of Pop really dead?

July-13-09

Forum

Posted by admin
This forum is currently locked – access is read only
You must be logged in to post Login

Search 
Search Forums:


 




Concerned about Some of the fans here:

UserPost

11:03 am
August 2, 2009


mjfan

Member

posts 679

1

http://cherokeebillie.wordpres…..l-jackson/


This was posted on August 1st.


Some thoughts:


This particular psychic sounds more down to earth, sane, and reasonable than most of them. I’m not saying he’s right, but I don’t think he’s a huckster. He may TRULY BELIEVE he’s contacted Michael Jackson. Whether he has or not, I think he believes he has. And I don’t know whether he has or not. I have no idea if Michael Jackson is alive or not. If he’s dead there is just too much suspicious that happened for it all to be an accident.

Then again, if MJ is dead, everyone is looking for someone to blame because he really should still be here. Though it’s probably selfish of everyone to want that, considering how hard his life was.

I’m really not sure one way or the other. Though I know if MJ IS dead, then this is certainly plausible. And I know he would want to find some way to get in touch with people and calm them down. I know it would bug him a lot how desperate and upset the fans are at his passing. One thing I’ve said before is that, given an elevated spiritual status and all the things he did for the world, it’s likely that if MJ was dead, he would be MORE alive to many fans. Because spirit transcends all the rest. So fans who feel he is alive very strongly… even if he’s dead, they probably WOULD feel that.

I’ve said before that we shouldn’t jump too much on how the family is mourning because if he really is dead, then that’s just cruel. Though I personally have little use for Joe or La Toya, (although if you read Magic and the Madness, both of them come across as a little more sympathetic despite their huge flaws), and I don’t understand why Jermaine keeps giving SO many interviews, still, to act like Paris faked her speech, or that none of the family seemed to be that sad, etc. etc. to prove a hoax, seems a bit cruel. And also selfish. In that, it’s selfish and cruel to dissect a family’s behavior at a memorial for their lost loved one, just because we want MJ to be alive and continue making music.

I’ve thought for awhile that either MJ is in protective custody or a coma, or he’s been murdered. Though whether or not that psychic medium actually had any real contact with MJ, I think there is a lot of prudence in that message and fans should listen to it on two levels:

1. We do not KNOW what happened. Though there is much speculation that if he was dead and he was murdered and it was a big conspiracy… maybe it was, and maybe it wasn’t. If it wasn’t and it just looks suspicious… well think about how everybody thought MJ was guilty because he “looked” suspicious.

2. Fans need to really learn to cope with the reality that MJ might be dead. I see way too many fans on this forum who are SO religious almost about MJ’s comeback… it’s like Jesus’ second coming or something. I see some strong parallels in that. It’s almost freaky.

I know there is a lot of turmoil and while for some this is more intellectually interesting. Don’t get me wrong I love MJ I love who he was, I identify with him on many levels and for a long time was searching for a person/being/avatar that I could identify with on that level. And I’m still trying to figure out what it means and what kind of changes I need to make to improve my own life. And I love his music and dancing and beat boxing and etc… but… as a fan, I’m relatively new.

Though I cried through a lot of the memorial and am still sad about the situation, and still haven’t gotten to a “normal fan level,” I truly can accept any outcome here. Even if it was just an accident and he is really dead. It’s sad, but in reality, if you believe in a spiritual realm, in death he’s more alive than in life, for those of us who weren’t ever going to get to meet him in life.

So for me a lot of the theories are more thought experiments. I’m curious, it’s like a big puzzle, I want to figure it out. But I don’t have that same desperation a lot of people have. And I’m worried about the people here who have that desperation for Michael to be alive. And I hope such people can get some peace about this, because Michael, whether dead or alive, wouldn’t want you to suffer like this. So I think people, whether they believe Michael is dead or alive, and whether or not Michael is dead or alive, need to take the “message from Michael” to heart. Because parts of it are true, even if it turns out Michael is alive or was murdered.

11:08 am
August 2, 2009


mir26

Member

holland

posts 226

2

I have already mourned about his death so I am not desperate for him to be alive,if he is really dead then i am glad too because he is at peace then noone can hurt him anymore.


I am here because so many things dont add up and I want to know what happend and yes that goes both way he could be murderd,but my gut tells me he escaped somehow and is out there somewhere and if he had done that and he will never come back,thats ok with me as long as he is happy I am happy.

dont believe everything you see or read

11:09 am
August 2, 2009


Thetruth

Member

posts 224

3

I think everbody should be prepared for what they dont expect wheter if you belvivie he is dead or alive.

Love you Michael from the bottom of my heart!

11:12 am
August 2, 2009


LEA613

Member

posts 11

4

I love Michael too, and at this point I believe he is alive. HOWEVER, all of this negativity and bickering amongst people on the site because they don't agree with someone's opinion is really not necessary. I can understand defending yourself if someone attacks you on here. That is natural. But, some of the people posting on here are scary and I too am concerned with their level of fanaticism. If MJ is alive, he might not reveal himself for a long time if ever, and I see people here getting their celebration gear ready for a certain date, when in reality they don't know. Only MJ knows. I suspect I'll probably get attacked for my view, but I don't care. I'm a grown woman stating my opinion. Like I said, I believe Michael is alive. I enjoy this site and all, but it's like trying to piece together a puzzle lol. It takes a lot out of you. 

11:15 am
August 2, 2009


BiLLiExJeaN

Member

Philadelphia, PA

posts 90

5

I've already prepared myself for the worst, thats how i always was even as a kid … i'm not a negative person but i feel if i prepare myself for what i don't expect to happen then it won't come to such a shock to me if it does happen that i go into deep depression over it, it isn't worth it.

Am i invisible because you ignore me? I<3MJ

11:23 am
August 2, 2009


dontmakeitfactual

Member

posts 191

6

Very well said mjfan

11:30 am
August 2, 2009


mjfan

Member

posts 679

7

Thetruth said:

I think everbody should be prepared for what they dont expect wheter if you belvivie he is dead or alive.


Exactly.  Chances are good that none of us is totally right on his/her theories.

11:31 am
August 2, 2009


mjfan

Member

posts 679

8

dontmakeitfactual said:

Very well said mjfan


Thanks!

11:53 am
August 2, 2009


michaelismysoulmate

Member

posts 115

9

Well said mjfan i really enjoyed your post may michael finally be at peace no matter what.

I will never let you part as you’re always in my heart.

11:57 am
August 2, 2009


Mjhasabigcrotch

Member

posts 131

10

Thetruth said:

I think everbody should be prepared for what they dont expect wheather if you believe he is dead or alive.


true

Yum =) you healed the world michael.

11:59 am
August 2, 2009


Lori

Member

posts 5

11

I don't believe anything is said in this video. Not a single word.

It is not that I am saying that MJ is alive, I am saying that I don't know if he is or not, and I think there is a big possibility that I will never know for sure one or anather.

I simply don't believe in talking to dead, spiritism and stuff like that.  Besides how can you be sure you are talking to the right spirit and not some demonic creature, that pretends to be Michael, and wants to take away hope from people?! And how can you be sure the person is really talking to Michael, and not making it all up to become popular?!

I still got hope Michael is alive, and it is up to you people if you loose or keep yours.

12:18 pm
August 2, 2009


mjjforever72

Member

posts 45

12

mir26 said:

I have already mourned about his death so I am not desperate for him to be alive,if he is really dead then i am glad too because he is at peace then noone can hurt him anymore.


I am here because so many things dont add up and I want to know what happend and yes that goes both way he could be murderd,but my gut tells me he escaped somehow and is out there somewhere and if he had done that and he will never come back,thats ok with me as long as he is happy I am happy.


Ok  here is a quetion, if this phychic truely believes that he has contacted michael well what did michael have to say????    If michael doesn't want his fans to go through so much pain and if he is looking down at all us fans then wouldn't there be a message for all of us so we wouldn't be in so much pain????????     Don't get me wrong I do believe in the spirit relem and I have had some experience with my family members (my mother for one)  that she came to me in spirit and opened a door to let me know she was there but still if this phychic is for real then there had to been something said.       I do agree with you on alot of things  but it just gets me about the contact of michael so soon.   If people read the article on cnn.com  there was the numbers lady  and other phychics too, about michael and the other phychics said a real phychic knows and that they won't even TRY to contact michael for at least 6 months to a year.   So I don't understand your friend the phychic.      I believe michael is alive cause its true NOTHING ADDS UP!   Well whereever you are michael I hope that you are happy and I'm happy you did it cause it looks good on the media!   I LOVE YOU MICHAEL FOREVER AND FOR ALWAYS!

12:28 pm
August 2, 2009


mjfan

Member

posts 679

13

Lori said:

I don't believe anything is said in this video. Not a single word.

It is not that I am saying that MJ is alive, I am saying that I don't know if he is or not, and I think there is a big possibility that I will never know for sure one or anather.

I simply don't believe in talking to dead, spiritism and stuff like that.  Besides how can you be sure you are talking to the right spirit and not some demonic creature, that pretends to be Michael, and wants to take away hope from people?! And how can you be sure the person is really talking to Michael, and not making it all up to become popular?!

I still got hope Michael is alive, and it is up to you people if you loose or keep yours.


I NEVER said anytone should believe this guy contacted Michael.  I'm saying whether he did or not there is some truth to the message.  I am NOT saying the truth part is necessarily that MJ is dead.  NOR am I saying the truth part is that it is an accident and not murder.  I'm saying no matter WHAT the truth is… either about MJ or this psychic… there is some wisdom in what he's saying overall.


If YOU don't find any wisdom in it, it is fine.  But many of us do.  And also it's a good wake-up call for some of the people on this board who seem to me to have gone over the edge with their desperation and religious zeal for MJ being alive. 

We all need some perspective.

12:32 pm
August 2, 2009


mjfan

Member

posts 679

14

Post edited 5:35 am – August 3, 2009 by mjfan


mjjforever72 said:


Ok  here is a quetion, if this phychic truely believes that he has contacted michael well what did michael have to say????    If michael doesn't want his fans to go through so much pain and if he is looking down at all us fans then wouldn't there be a message for all of us so we wouldn't be in so much pain????????     Don't get me wrong I do believe in the spirit relem and I have had some experience with my family members (my mother for one)  that she came to me in spirit and opened a door to let me know she was there but still if this phychic is for real then there had to been something said.       I do agree with you on alot of things  but it just gets me about the contact of michael so soon.   If people read the article on cnn.com  there was the numbers lady  and other phychics too, about michael and the other phychics said a real phychic knows and that they won't even TRY to contact michael for at least 6 months to a year.   So I don't understand your friend the phychic.      I believe michael is alive cause its true NOTHING ADDS UP!   Well whereever you are michael I hope that you are happy and I'm happy you did it cause it looks good on the media!   I LOVE YOU MICHAEL FOREVER AND FOR ALWAYS!


I think it's important to understand the following things are ALL statements of faith and not provable fact:


A. You can contact the dead at all.

B. There is only a certain window during which you can contact the dead.

C. You have to wait 6 months before trying to contact the dead.


I hear over and over this thing about 6 months, but it sounds like horse hooey to me.  Why is that?  Because I know people who have had spiritual contact or felt the presence of people close to them who have died and it was pretty much, right then, or the next day, and not 6 months later.  The idea that there is this 6 month window people have to wait, to me personally is just absurd.


It is fine if you believe that or find it credible, but again, ANYTHING that cannot be 100% factually proven, is a statement of faith or opinion.  It might not even be POSSIBLE to contact the dead PERIOD.  And if it is, it may or may not require any kind of waiting period.


I just get tired of things that are faith statements and opinions being bandied about as facts.  People really need to IMO learn to discern the difference in their beliefs and facts.  It is fine to have beliefs or opinions, but stating them as if they are facts IMO is not fine.

1:34 pm
August 2, 2009


Lori

Member

posts 5

15

mjfan said:

Post edited 5:35 am – August 3, 2009 by mjfan


mjjforever72 said:


Ok  here is a quetion, if this phychic truely believes that he has contacted michael well what did michael have to say????    If michael doesn't want his fans to go through so much pain and if he is looking down at all us fans then wouldn't there be a message for all of us so we wouldn't be in so much pain????????     Don't get me wrong I do believe in the spirit relem and I have had some experience with my family members (my mother for one)  that she came to me in spirit and opened a door to let me know she was there but still if this phychic is for real then there had to been something said.       I do agree with you on alot of things  but it just gets me about the contact of michael so soon.   If people read the article on cnn.com  there was the numbers lady  and other phychics too, about michael and the other phychics said a real phychic knows and that they won't even TRY to contact michael for at least 6 months to a year.   So I don't understand your friend the phychic.      I believe michael is alive cause its true NOTHING ADDS UP!   Well whereever you are michael I hope that you are happy and I'm happy you did it cause it looks good on the media!   I LOVE YOU MICHAEL FOREVER AND FOR ALWAYS!


I think it's important to understand the following things are ALL statements of faith and not provable fact:


A. You can contact the dead at all.

B. There is only a certain window during which you can contact the dead.

C. You have to wait 6 months before trying to contact the dead.


I hear over and over this thing about 6 months, but it sounds like horse hooey to me.  Why is that?  Because I know people who have had spiritual contact or felt the presence of people close to them who have died and it was pretty much, right then, or the next day, and not 6 months later.  The idea that there is this 6 month window people have to wait, to me personally is just absurd.


It is fine if you believe that or find it credible, but again, ANYTHING that cannot be 100% factually proven, is a statement of faith or opinion.  It might not even be POSSIBLE to contact the dead PERIOD.  And if it is, it may or may not require any kind of waiting period.


I just get tired of things that are faith statements and opinions being bandied about as facts.  People really need to IMO learn to discern the difference in their beliefs and facts.  It is fine to have beliefs or opinions, but stating them as if they are facts IMO is not fine.


Why the heck you people can't leave Michael in peace even after his death (if he is dead) ? Doesn't he finaly diserves to be left in peace? Isn't it selfish to try to contact his spirit or stuf like that? If he is gone I believe it is up to God to take care of him, and all thouse people talking to dead people just go against the Gods will. Don't you know that it is a sin to talk to dead or to believe thouse who say they do talk to dead?

I am not in less pain and comfusion then any of you, I want to know what happened to Michael and I would be more then happy to know that he is alive. But if he is not, I don't think he would want all his fans starting going crazy and trying to call his spirit and disturb him and make their own lifes crazy.

Don't want to hurt anyone, and if I go against somebodies believes, just ignore my post.

12:40 am
August 3, 2009


answers

Member

posts 428

16

I agree about the whole comeback thing-

I have not mourned his “death” as such..but I am fully preparing myself just in case

-I have the 100 boxes of kleenex and 3 tubs of ice-cream ready!

I just want closure-whether coming back or not…

- the mold was broken when Michael Jackson was created

6:25 am
August 3, 2009


VanillaCream

Member

Germany

posts 195

17

I believe “talking to the dead” is only good for one reason: make MONEY with the desperation and grief of the surviving dependants.

6:36 am
August 3, 2009


mmz

Member

posts 92

18

If he is really dead,since my catholic belief, he is feeling really well right now.I don't need any psychic to contact him and report.

In that case,I would be happy anyway. Just sad because of the loss, but it is always harder for those who stay,then for those “gone” to better life.

If ther is anyway 1% possibility he is alive,I hope he is doing well.

I am here, after having cryied a lot.But now I am strong enough to accept whatever has happened.

of course,there is a little hope inside myself.

6:44 am
August 3, 2009


velvetsilvergirl

Member

NJ

posts 191

19

I hear over and over this thing about 6 months, but it sounds like horse hooey to me.  Why is that?  Because I know people who have had spiritual contact or felt the presence of people close to them who have died and it was pretty much, right then, or the next day, and not 6 months later.  The idea that there is this 6 month window people have to wait, to me personally is just absurd.



I replied to a post on this Cherokee person the other day. I too, dont understand the 6 month thing. I am not a medium and dont contact the dead, but I have worked with mediums to clear houses and spaces of unwanted energies.  I'm not a psychic either, just a sensitive. This article made a comment on how spirits 'often come back to a place' to see what is going on after they died or something. That's just ridiculous to me. From my own experience I've encountered several types of energies: imprints, wanderers and (very rarely) spirits that have not crossed over. Spirits that are able to contact a living person are stuck, often unaware they are dead or afraid to be dead, they are not kicking back and enjoying the scenery. Its a sad and serious situation that I think this Cherokee person makes light of.

Of course I dont know MJ, but what we all know of him is pure love and a pure soul. Thats is not the kind of soul that hangs around after death.  And my instincts tell me he is not dead, I've learned to listen to them becasue they are never wrong.

6:51 am
August 3, 2009


J.J_loves_MJ

Member

Moon Kingdom

posts 300

20

Thetruth said:

I think everbody should be prepared for what they dont expect wheter if you belvivie he is dead or alive.


Amen!

I want to apologize for my bad english. I hope all of you can understand what I’m writing.If not.. please tell me immediately because I don’t want to get in trouble.

7:43 am
August 3, 2009


Lori

Member

posts 5

21

velvetsilvergirl said:

I hear over and over this thing about 6 months, but it sounds like horse hooey to me.  Why is that?  Because I know people who have had spiritual contact or felt the presence of people close to them who have died and it was pretty much, right then, or the next day, and not 6 months later.  The idea that there is this 6 month window people have to wait, to me personally is just absurd.



I replied to a post on this Cherokee person the other day. I too, dont understand the 6 month thing. I am not a medium and dont contact the dead, but I have worked with mediums to clear houses and spaces of unwanted energies.  I'm not a psychic either, just a sensitive. This article made a comment on how spirits 'often come back to a place' to see what is going on after they died or something. That's just ridiculous to me. From my own experience I've encountered several types of energies: imprints, wanderers and (very rarely) spirits that have not crossed over. Spirits that are able to contact a living person are stuck, often unaware they are dead or afraid to be dead, they are not kicking back and enjoying the scenery. Its a sad and serious situation that I think this Cherokee person makes light of.

Of course I dont know MJ, but what we all know of him is pure love and a pure soul. Thats is not the kind of soul that hangs around after death.  And my instincts tell me he is not dead, I've learned to listen to them becasue they are never wrong.


I had a strong feeling that Michael is alive after I have herd the news of his death, so I thought I might be going crazy or something, that it is all just my imagination, but then I found this website, and I realised that there are many people having the same feeling as me!

Can it be that we all are so wrong? Can it be that our feelings or instincts are lieing to us?! I don't hope so!

I really hope Michael is alive!

Search 

About the Michael Jackson Hoax Death forum

Most Users Ever Online:

330


Currently Online:

DawneVee

yaya

francisca81

jewell

Smiile1929

VanillaCream

charliechaplin

Lifting the veil

BASIL

artisticflare

flory24

jackoforever91

Antigone

bibi

Cherry

Invincible

PinkLizard

ilprincipe

dontmakeitfactual

summer_sc3nt

IloveMJ

well

MichaelMyAngel

sunrise

WomanInTheMirror27

cherrymafia

pumpkin

mo2kidzs

sunnyscrapper

Little_Susie

lavenderlean

beverleyflossy

onemorechance

Baby

MaJO

MissRenee

iLOVEu

MissinOurLove

SpirtsLast4Ever

liveforever

ninica27

zildiy

85 Guests

Forum Stats:

Groups: 5

Forums: 13

Topics: 2339

Posts: 36313

Membership:

There are 2220 Members

There have been 3 Guests

There is 1 Admin

There is 1 Moderator

Top Posters:

BelieverAngel90 – 1060

MyBelovedMJ – 1012

Give.In.To.Me – 986

Miss Dahmer – 851

mjfan – 679

SkylinexBleedsxRed – 673

Administrators: Admin (67 Posts)

Moderators: Moderator (200 Posts)