Michael Jackson Hoax Death

Is the King of Pop really dead?

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5:22 am
July 23, 2009


velvetsilvergirl

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Whos got a pic of MJ forwning in the ambulance? Can you post it.

And Kmouse is right, I think that bufoon Joe Jackson is going to drop info everytime he opens his mouth. That the only reason I watch him. Man I cant stand that guy. Kmouse you saw the interview. Can you believe he said he hadnt seen his sons dead body, not at the hospital and not in the casket. If the casket was open at the private viewing he wouldnt have had a choice.

Last night CNN reported that the family is delaying the burial becasue they want the brain tissue back in his body that the coroner still has. Latoya already said his brain was put back. And I think they do something weird to the tissue anyway, like freeze it or liquify it to find out what chemicals are in it.

Its all just another stall, another delay.

6:40 am
July 23, 2009


vyse

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i dont want to make a wave here but dont forget: if it wasnt for joe jackson you wouldnt even know michael jackson(even he said that bashirs interview)

and yes, i totally disagree with the ways joe jackson treated his children.

2:16 pm
July 23, 2009


HanaDay

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vyse said:

i dont want to make a wave here but dont forget: if it wasnt for joe jackson you wouldnt even know michael jackson(even he said that bashirs interview)

and yes, i totally disagree with the ways joe jackson treated his children.


I agree. We dont know Joe, he's not our dad. So, if MJ loves his father that really all that matters

“Success, fame, and fortune,they’re all illusions. All there is that is real, is the friendship that two can share.”

7:50 pm
July 23, 2009


MJJXscape

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Post edited 1:46 pm – July 24, 2009 by MJJXscape


Joe Jackson is not evil man as many describe him here. He's just not a good spokesman. Michael loved his dad even though he made his mistakes, but he taught him a discipline in his profession.

Maybe you'll understand MJ and his dad better if you read the book “Moon Walk” by MJ, its the one of the best books  I've read.

MJ writes in so sincere and pure way, just the way he was(is) with all people around him. God bless him. I'll always love him.

9:03 pm
July 23, 2009


Tenderoni

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I wouldn't think it was a “frown”.  Most people, when “relaxing” their face (or dead or unconscious) will automatically have a frowned appearance.

9:10 pm
July 23, 2009


MJJXscape

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Personaly I don't think it was frown, because his eyebrows were tatooed(permanent makeup) same as his lips.

9:20 pm
July 23, 2009


Tenderoni

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Today, Katherine filed papers asking for emergency financial support because Michael supported her and all she has is her social security check.  The documents also state that the children will receive social security checks (because their primary support is gone), but they haven't come yet.

Michael would not allow his mother to lie in court documents OR file for social security for the children if he really were alive, because she could go to jail for that fraud.

I REALLY want to believe he is alive, because I simply don't want to live the next 40 years without him in this world making MJ Magic, but this evidence is too hard to ignore.   

I need evidence as hard as this to the contrary!  Not fake ambulance pictures or an extra “s” in a word.  I'm willing to wait, though!

4:00 am
July 24, 2009


she_can

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Tenderoni said:

Today, Katherine filed papers asking for emergency financial support because Michael supported her and all she has is her social security check.  The documents also state that the children will receive social security checks (because their primary support is gone), but they haven't come yet.

Michael would not allow his mother to lie in court documents OR file for social security for the children if he really were alive, because she could go to jail for that fraud.

I REALLY want to believe he is alive, because I simply don't want to live the next 40 years without him in this world making MJ Magic, but this evidence is too hard to ignore.   

I need evidence as hard as this to the contrary!  Not fake ambulance pictures or an extra “s” in a word.  I'm willing to wait, though!


Let's suppose that he died – he didn't specify anything about giving his mother money… How can someone so canny in business and managing his estate not provide anything to support her in his will? 3 things: there is another will, he has already given her a certain amount that would allow her to live comfortably or she is the beneficiary of one of his life insurance but the insurance company cannot deliver any money without a proper death certificate…

10:06 pm
July 24, 2009


Tenderoni

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Yes, he did.  He gave her 40% in the trust.  He gave another 40% to the children, and 20% to charity.  The trust goes in connection with the Will.  You don't always provide for “support” in a will or trust because the amount would depend on how much the estate is worth at the time of death (and beyond, with his assets).

4:43 am
July 25, 2009


she_can

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Tenderoni said:

Yes, he did.  He gave her 40% in the trust.  He gave another 40% to the children, and 20% to charity.  The trust goes in connection with the Will.  You don't always provide for “support” in a will or trust because the amount would depend on how much the estate is worth at the time of death (and beyond, with his assets).


so it means that she will receive those 40% even though she is not the one managing the estate (it will be the other two guys, a lawyer and a previous MJ's manager)?

5:04 am
July 25, 2009


pumpkin

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Why did the LAPD wait 3 weeks or more before raiding Murray's office? What are they hoping to find after all that time……

5:20 am
July 25, 2009


pumpkin

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Tenderoni said:

I REALLY want to believe he is alive, because I simply don't want to live the next 40 years without him in this world making MJ Magic, but this evidence is too hard to ignore.   

I need evidence as hard as this to the contrary!  Not fake ambulance pictures or an extra “s” in a word.  I'm willing to wait, though!


I couldn't agree more


5:26 am
July 25, 2009


STARbaybeeRoqk

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pumpkin said:

Why did the LAPD wait 3 weeks or more before raiding Murray's office? What are they hoping to find after all that time……


maybe they needed a warrant

and in order to get a warrant you also have to have a good explanation for wanting that warrant then you have to state your facts and also and have sources and or proof behind the facts that your stating so they couldve been wanting it just to go search but they needed it for some reason that i dnt know of

but thats why i think it took them 3 weeks because they needed a warrant

Omg..How Adorable is He!!

12:45 pm
July 25, 2009


pumpkin

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Somebody please restore the faith, I just heard 'will you be there' on the radio and it broke my heart, such a beautiful voice, someone tell me he is still alive

2:01 pm
July 25, 2009


charmed6

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pumpkin said:

Somebody please restore the faith, I just heard 'will you be there' on the radio and it broke my heart, such a beautiful voice, someone tell me he is still alive


Yess, I absoulutely BELIEVE he IS ALIVE. We can never lose hope. Just keep believing whats in you heart!

“I’m Alive And I’m Here Forever” – Michael Jackson

9:21 am
July 26, 2009


anonymous observer

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Post edited 2:22 am – July 27, 2009 by mysterious


Anna.K said:

Post edited 3:44 am – July 20, 2009 by Anna.K


I'm opening this thread so we can recap EVERYTHING we have so far.
Let's recapitulate everything that ticked us off in the first place : what conflicts, what's eerie and strange, doesn't add up and doesn't make sense. 

Please, leave all conspiracy theories such as the Illuminati out of this. This is not what this thread is about – it's not about pure speculation, it's not about “what could have happened”, it's about regrouping everything that's strange so we can see what can be explained and what can't.

Please, leave personal matters out of this – we don't want to know, or care about if you knew MJ or not. This is not about US or YOU, it's about the actual STORY. Let's stop the bickering for a sec.

Thank you



- These images of MJ (or someone who looks just like him) posted on michaeljacksonsightings.com, taken on June 27th of him carrying an umbrella:



As well as inter-corroborating eye-witness accounts from the same website, of people who've seen him in the UK, the UAE and Germany.

9:42 am
July 26, 2009


scMJfan

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mysterious said:

Post edited 9:22 am – July 26, 2009 by mysterious


Anna.K said:

Post edited 3:44 am – July 20, 2009 by Anna.K


I'm opening this thread so we can recap EVERYTHING we have so far.
Let's recapitulate everything that ticked us off in the first place : what conflicts, what's eerie and strange, doesn't add up and doesn't make sense. 

Please, leave all conspiracy theories such as the Illuminati out of this. This is not what this thread is about – it's not about pure speculation, it's not about “what could have happened”, it's about regrouping everything that's strange so we can see what can be explained and what can't.

Please, leave personal matters out of this – we don't want to know, or care about if you knew MJ or not. This is not about US or YOU, it's about the actual STORY. Let's stop the bickering for a sec.

Thank you



- These images of MJ (or someone who looks just like him) posted on michaeljacksonsightings.com, taken on June 27th of him carrying an umbrella:



As well as inter-corroborating eye-witness accounts from the same website, of people who've seen him in the UK, the UAE and Germany.


nope I think these pics are a set up…sorry

“In a world filled with hate, we must still dare to hope. In a world filled with anger, we must still dare to comfort. In a world filled with despair, we must still dare to dream. And in a world filled with distrust, we must still dare to believe.” ~

9:43 am
July 26, 2009


scMJfan

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mysterious said:

Post edited 9:22 am – July 26, 2009 by mysterious


Anna.K said:

Post edited 3:44 am – July 20, 2009 by Anna.K


I'm opening this thread so we can recap EVERYTHING we have so far.
Let's recapitulate everything that ticked us off in the first place : what conflicts, what's eerie and strange, doesn't add up and doesn't make sense. 

Please, leave all conspiracy theories such as the Illuminati out of this. This is not what this thread is about – it's not about pure speculation, it's not about “what could have happened”, it's about regrouping everything that's strange so we can see what can be explained and what can't.

Please, leave personal matters out of this – we don't want to know, or care about if you knew MJ or not. This is not about US or YOU, it's about the actual STORY. Let's stop the bickering for a sec.

Thank you



- These images of MJ (or someone who looks just like him) posted on michaeljacksonsightings.com, taken on June 27th of him carrying an umbrella:



As well as inter-corroborating eye-witness accounts from the same website, of people who've seen him in the UK, the UAE and Germany.


nope I think these pics are a set up…sorry

“In a world filled with hate, we must still dare to hope. In a world filled with anger, we must still dare to comfort. In a world filled with despair, we must still dare to dream. And in a world filled with distrust, we must still dare to believe.” ~

9:56 am
July 26, 2009


ballongiraf

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i'll be honest and say that those pics does look like MJ – however, those pics could've been taken anytime. There's no date on the pics, and no other indication that those pics were indeed taken june 27th 2009….

9:57 am
July 26, 2009


anonymous observer

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scMJfan said:

nope I think these pics are a set up…sorry


A set up in what way?


That the pics aren't from the 27th or that they aren't of MJ?

2:33 pm
July 26, 2009


MJFAN1972

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NeverlandsFairy said:

Post edited 4:42 am – July 20, 2009 by NeverlandsFairy


1-Ambulance going slow, without sirenes or light.

2-Report from TMZ before any serious source

3-Obituary not signed still

4-Maybe 3 different autopsies

5-Contradictions about this suddenly “going back of MJ” to his former addiction on painkillers drugs

6-Till now no doctor (I m not inclunding Dr.Tohme Tohme cause he did not took part of the revival attempt of MJ on the hospital) from UCLA had done an official report, as such they did with Diana, Jermaine did instead.Perhaps cause no doctor wished to get trully involved on it

7-911 call turning of the before the ambulance reaches the place, and by “chance” guessed the address before the Alberto tells it completly

8-Paparazzi strategically waiting there to take a shot

9-Stuff took from MJ house before the cops come and close the scene for investigation

10-MJ signed to 50 against his will, instead of 10 gigs .”He hated to tour”.


I tried to take apart all those points what sounded pure speculations.


Where'd u c that?


2:59 pm
July 26, 2009


shyone

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Listen, if everyone would detach themselves from their emotions for a moment and see things for the way they are and not dig and pry then you would be able to see clearly that this is all a scheme or hoax whatever you choose to call it. Don't you all recall that it took almost 2 weeks after MJ's death before the tabloids and media started asking about the ambulance at the home, the hospital, the morgue, the body? The only thing they were consistent on was the custody of the children. MJ is not dead. He is just alive as we are. I am sure most of you saw the Memorial Service on T.V. . There wasn't a tear from anyone. All of a sudden pictures pop up of Blanket with tears streaming down his face. Give me a break! It takes 3 weeks to get a warrant for Dr.Murray's office. Please, don't insult my intelligence. Lastly, this wasn't planned 3 months ago. This was in the planning stages for years. Read the post that Admin sent Jul 24th. But I can't convince any of you. Finally, why would you think so highly of MJ that he wouldn't leave his children or leave his mom in distress. You nor I know the truth of what is going on do we? I can guarantee you one thing. The Jackson Family is in no way hurting for monies to care for those children. Don't buy into the hype! Keep the Faith!

3:14 pm
July 26, 2009


scMJfan

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mysterious said:

scMJfan said:

nope I think these pics are a set up…sorry


A set up in what way?


That the pics aren't from the 27th or that they aren't of MJ?


I saw those pics the day after the news reported his death, to me it seemed obvious that someone went through the trouble of making sure you couldn't see the guy's face, I mean it does resemble Michael, and like you said no date stamp…who is it that has that software that can pinpoint the date and time of a pic? I remember seeing some info like that posted in the past.

“In a world filled with hate, we must still dare to hope. In a world filled with anger, we must still dare to comfort. In a world filled with despair, we must still dare to dream. And in a world filled with distrust, we must still dare to believe.” ~

4:27 pm
July 26, 2009


anonymous observer

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Post edited 9:35 am – July 27, 2009 by mysterious


By itself, the pics aren't definitive enough to be MJ, and it seems they aren't him, but of a lookalike.


However, the accounts of people who've seen him, are consistent with each other.

4:48 pm
July 26, 2009


Jordy

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Also it seems I am the only one who has noticed this – in the 911 call he goes from being on the bed to, after being told to be put on the floor, being slumped in a chair.

My real name is Jordan. I am not trying to relate to Jordy Chandler. Thank you.

5:07 pm
July 26, 2009


Smiles78

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Jordy said:

Also it seems I am the only one who has noticed this – in the 911 call he goes from being on the bed to, after being told to be put on the floor, being slumped in a chair.


Where did you hear/see he was slumped in a chair?

I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity. – E.A. Poe

5:14 pm
July 26, 2009


MichaelMyAngel

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Smiles78 said:

Jordy said:

Also it seems I am the only one who has noticed this – in the 911 call he goes from being on the bed to, after being told to be put on the floor, being slumped in a chair.


Where did you hear/see he was slumped in a chair?


OMG my english is too bad.Please forgive me!!I hope you understand me anyway!!

5:25 pm
July 26, 2009


Jordy

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Listen to the 911 call!


The caller says he's on the bed, the 911 operator tells him to move MJ to the floor.


Then the 911 operator asks how MJ wound up unconscious, and the caller asks the doctor. He says the doctor found him slumped in a chair.

My real name is Jordan. I am not trying to relate to Jordy Chandler. Thank you.

8:02 pm
July 26, 2009


answers

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Jordy said:

Listen to the 911 call!


The caller says he's on the bed, the 911 operator tells him to move MJ to the floor.


Then the 911 operator asks how MJ wound up unconscious, and the caller asks the doctor. He says the doctor found him slumped in a chair.


Jordy- your username makes me angry. sorry no offence but it does.

- the mold was broken when Michael Jackson was created

8:12 pm
July 26, 2009


MrsBenjamin

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mysterious said:

Post edited 9:22 am – July 26, 2009 by mysterious


Anna.K said:

Post edited 3:44 am – July 20, 2009 by Anna.K


I'm opening this thread so we can recap EVERYTHING we have so far.
Let's recapitulate everything that ticked us off in the first place : what conflicts, what's eerie and strange, doesn't add up and doesn't make sense. 

Please, leave all conspiracy theories such as the Illuminati out of this. This is not what this thread is about – it's not about pure speculation, it's not about “what could have happened”, it's about regrouping everything that's strange so we can see what can be explained and what can't.

Please, leave personal matters out of this – we don't want to know, or care about if you knew MJ or not. This is not about US or YOU, it's about the actual STORY. Let's stop the bickering for a sec.

Thank you



- These images of MJ (or someone who looks just like him) posted on michaeljacksonsightings.com, taken on June 27th of him carrying an umbrella:



As well as inter-corroborating eye-witness accounts from the same website, of people who've seen him in the UK, the UAE and Germany.


lol MJ dont wear jeans

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